126_Venus Castleberg === Venus: And so I was learning about the body and nutrition and kind of how things work. And I went on an ATV, I got an ATV and went on the sand dunes and I dropped off the backside of the sand of a sand dune. So if you don't know, sand dunes actually like have a very high pitch. Um, this was about six feet tall. And instead of rolling the ATV, I decided. Gun it and jump it. But what happened then was that my, um, my chest and my arms were stock absorbers. Yeah. So, and it shattered my right arm, like in hundreds of pieces, like so many pieces, so many pieces that the doctor was like, I. We can't do anything for it. We have, we can, we can put an external fixator on it and hope that your bones find their way back. Monica: Oh my goodness. Venus: Yeah. And I knew enough about nutrition and health at that point that I knew my bone should not have. So I was like, okay. Cause bones usually break clean and it's usually like a one break, you know, they don't blow up. And that's when I was like, okay, whatever I'm choosing here has to stop. So I, I stopped cold Turkey. I stopped partying. I stopped doing drugs. I stopped going. With friends just to stay out of the, that circle, that cycle. And I just really started to turn inward, you know, not having something to numb me from reality, which was what the drugs were. The alcohol was. The partying was like trying to numb myself from what was going on. I chose to study more and more modalities and take a diver deep into myself and into just seeking. I've always just wanted the answers. === Monica: Welcome to the Revelation Project Podcast. I'm Monica Rogers, and this podcast is intended to disrupt the trance of unworthiness and to guide women, to remember and reveal the truth of who. We say that life is a revelation project and what gets revealed gets healed. Hello everyone. And welcome to another episode of the Revelation Project podcast. Venus Castleberg is my guest today and she is the author of the bestseller Here to Forever. Finally free to be Me. This is a story that explorers looking for love in all the wrong places. Familiar written with a beautiful vulnerability clarity and a welcoming lightheartedness Here to Forever gives readers a glimpse into Venus's own journey of joy and destruction, asking everyone to consider the possibility that love can be filled with ease and fulfillment from a belief system that she was flawed and broken to discovering. To like and love herself. Venus delivers the tools and processes that others can apply to create something greater. Venus Castleberg is a seasoned entrepreneur, a coach, and a Divo T of joyful possibility. She's a holistic healthcare practitioner with over 20 years of studying and practicing. A range of modalities renowned for her compassion, clarity of vision and joyful approach to life and business. Venus has developed an impressive track record. You can learn more about her, of course, at Venus castle berg.com. And we'll be sure to put all of her links in the show notes at the end of the show, please join me in welcoming Venus Castleberg. Hey Venus Venus: Hi thank you for having me. Monica: I love this part in your bio, which is that you are renowned for your compassion. I almost giggled. Cause I was thinking what if we were renowned for something terrible, right? It's like, It's like, I know it's true, but for that choice of word, it's like, I would love to be renowned for compassion. Right. And which is so such a Testament to your work, because you really are all about creating, right? Like this way of being in the world that has you access different ways of creating. Every day Venus: it's been a journey, right? Obviously I wasn't always here, Monica: which is why we think, I think we appreciate it so much when we learn that there is this heaven on earth that we didn't realize was available until it was. Venus: Yeah. Monica: So I love kind of, I was watching some of your YouTube videos and just really experiencing just your very calming, very centered way of communicating and being. And I'd love to hear just because I think we have a tendency to look at others and just see those qualities that have oftentimes been hard. One, Hey, you know, like I earned all the lines of my face, right? Like, I, I, it took me forever to get forever to get to this place. Right. But to everybody else, it can just look like we were born that way. So I would love to just hear really about, you're just more of your life story. Venus: Well, thank you for that. I'd love to start actually a little bit differently with that question because you've triggered something. When you see something in somebody else. You only are able to see it because it exists in you. If it didn't exist in you, you couldn't even see it. So it's easy to go. Well, that person has that, but it's like, but if you can't see that. Then it wouldn't be a possibility for you, right? Yeah. When I got that, I was like, oh, okay. I started seeing myself in the world differently because I saw so much kindness and I saw so much compassion. And then I saw so much ease and relaxation, but that's what I am. So I could see it with these. Monica: And when did that start? Like you being able to see it, was it always like. Venus: Yeah, no, no. I'm a work in progress then. And I, I don't even attribute that. I feel like I've arrived anywhere because I'm still a work in progress. We still have things that are constantly coming up. But 22 years ago now, what seems like forever. I started with massage therapy and I was seeking for the modality that I thought would fix me now. I didn't know. I realized I was doing that. I thought I was just picking a career path. Like this is what I'm gonna do. And as I got into it, and after years of like different modalities and stuff like that, I discovered this modality called access consciousness. And when I discovered access consciousness, I finally realized for the first time ever that I wasn't broken, I didn't need to be fixed. There wasn't anything wrong with me. And subsequently that's when I started to see there was also nothing wrong with anybody else. There was nothing that needed to be fixed. And when you can see somebody with that vision, They are invited to see it for themselves. When you don't see somebody has broken or wrong, or you have no judgements of them, then suddenly there's this space and allowance that has them go, oh, wow. I'm okay. Monica: Space and allowance. I actually did. I do these spring cleans with girlfriends, you know, and it, when I'm in what I call like an emotional wave, now I call it that because of human design. Right. Access consciousness may have a different word for it, but it's kind of that place for me, where everything starts to like build up right where it's like, you know, and I feel like I'm like choking and space really for me is something that is so cherished and so important. And I really got this idea of space. As grace, you know, and starting to really kind of play with understanding it through a different lens. And it gave me not only like for myself space, for myself, space, for my humanity space and permission for other people to be who they are. And it's like the second that we start throwing judgements around, you can just feel that space tighten up. You can just feel how everything contracts and. These ways of being either expand or contract us. And so it's really like the practice for me lately is kind of what else can I bring into this space that continues to allow for the unfolding of my true being Venus: that's beautifully said, I do have one of my favorite tools that changes judgment, like judgment and gratitude can't exist in this thing. So, if you find yourself in judgment, if you just find something to be grateful for, you will change your focus and you'll change the energy and what's possible. Monica: Well, what are you grateful for like today? Like, do you wake up with a gratitude practice? Is that something you do daily? Venus: It is, but I don't do it. I used to do it a little more planned because I needed to develop that muscle. You know, I do often still get up and write down three things I'm grateful for about me. Cause we also don't ever realize. Focused on what we're grateful for outside of ourselves, but rarely do we say, okay, I'm actually grateful that I am a kind person or I am grateful that I listened to that person or I saw on Mead and I fulfilled it. Those we don't acknowledge ourselves at all. So that's another step in that, like gratitude and yeah, it's because I've practiced it so much. It is more just a daily, everyday practice, but it just happens naturally. And if I find myself. Going down, some sort of rabbit hole of something. I'm just like, okay, still, what am I grateful for right now? You know? Monica: Yes. Venus: What am I, even in the situations that are uncomfortable, you know, it's like, okay, what's right about this. What am I, what's the beauty underneath? This is another way I forgot. I, okay. What am I grateful for here? Because like you said that as we grow and we change, it can be crunchy. I can be. Tight. It can be. Do you feel like we're choking? And it's like, okay, but what's the beauty underneath it because there's always something. Yeah. The universe is always conspiring for us, never against us. And so even if we're suffering, it seems like we're suffering air quotes, then there's something that's working in your favor. So you can look at a broken relationship. Like in hindsight, you can look back and go, wow, I'm actually really glad now that didn't work out. But in the moment you're like, eh, you know, Monica: Yes. And really, and really depending on how much space you get from that relationship, you can see, you know, like that, that person was a great teacher or that person, you know, came with so many. Disguised gifts that helped us to become who we needed to be. You know, like I often used to keep blaming certain people for their presence in my life basically, but what I started to really appreciate and understand is that. They were people really difficult people that actually made me take a stand for myself in a different way and taught me how to create boundaries or taught me how to have resilience, you know, taught me how to self-reflect there's so many ways I think that we can just kind of step over the gifts. And I love how you said that though. It's like the beauty underneath, because. The revelation project for me is kind of that it's like, okay, what's under that. What's under that. What's under that. And also just this idea of really revealing what is often hiding in plain sight, or is hiding from our. Kind of from our physical experience of the world, right? It's the intangibles it's for example, we know energy exists, you know, like we can see the trees blowing, but we can't see the wind. So it's also kind of this exploration in terms of like, what can we uncover or reveal that has nothing to do with what we can tangibly see? Well, Venus: That's beautiful. Not, and I, I loved it in the beginning of the conversation, you were talking about space and like we're made up of mostly space, you know? And I think that there were even like our bodies or even like five or 10%, can't remember the exact. human and all of the other things know it's all the others is water and space and the bacteria. Right. But like, so think about that. Like you're only 5%, 10% human. Monica: Right. That's amazing. Venus: And so yeah, energy space. It's like it's all around and inside and we can't feel it. I can't see it. But it's what everything is made of. Monica: Yes. And which leads me to ask you what I'm going to go back to kind of my original question. Cause I, I want to know like, What was life like for you in the before times? Like the bef comes for you before you kind of found or access? Right. Cause I always feel like there's this portal moment that transports us. And sometimes it's a moment. Sometimes it's a series of moments. Sometimes it's like the darkest, darkest moment, right. Where we just finally have this revelation or realization that like, oh my God, I didn't just die. And there's something else. Venus: Yep. I have not had exactly that moment. So I partied a lot in my twenties. I like to say I partied like a rockstar. I'm not, I'm not exaggerating. So, and I think the age of 28, I started and now you probably know about it and I've talked about, but Saturn return that's Saturn return. 28 32 is your Saturn return. And I had already started massage. And so I was learning about the body and nutrition and kind of how things work. And I went on an ATV, I got an ATV and went on the sand dunes and I dropped off the backside of the sand of a sand dune. So if you don't know, sand dunes actually like have a very high pitch. Um, this was about six feet tall. And instead of rolling the ATV, I decided. Gun it and jump it. But what happened then was that my, um, my chest and my arms were stock absorbers. Yeah. So, and it shattered my right arm, like in hundreds of pieces, like so many pieces, so many pieces that the doctor was like, I. We can't do anything for it. We have, we can, we can put an external fixator on it and hope that your bones find their way back. Monica: Oh my goodness. Venus: Yeah. And I knew enough about nutrition and health at that point that I knew my bone should not have. So I was like, okay. Cause bones usually break clean and it's usually like a one break, you know, they don't blow up. And that's when I was like, okay, whatever I'm choosing here has to stop. So I, I stopped cold Turkey. I stopped partying. I stopped doing drugs. I stopped going. With friends just to stay out of the, that circle, that cycle. And I just really started to turn inward, you know, not having something to numb me from reality, which was what the drugs were. The alcohol was. The partying was like trying to numb myself from what was going on. I chose to study more and more modalities and take a diver deep into myself and into just seeking. I've always just wanted the answers. And I think for a long time, I thought I was finding them through drugs and alcohol and partying, and then it was just, I was hollow. There wasn't a lot to it. And then from that subsequent quitting drugs, within six months, I became a clairvoyant medium, like literally overnight. Like I going to Reiki training one day, came home and I could see dead people. It was. Crazy. Monica: Wow. Venus: Yep. But it was six months clean and sober. So there was no longer what I was experiencing on a drug thinking that maybe I saw it, maybe it didn't. There was now no question because now the people that I would seen, even the people I ever talked to knew that. Monica: Oh, my gosh, I have so many questions. I'm like, oh my gosh. Oh, wow. Cause you know, I always, it's so funny because I there's this. Tendency for me to be like, oh, I wish I could do that. And then I'm like, wait a minute. Careful what you wish were. Right. Like, I'm just curious, like how, like, how does that feel? Like what, what did that feel like? Because there's some way that that really like draws me in, like, because I think because I'm like, so. I feel connected, but there's this other part of me that's like, I want, I want to see the things I cannot see, because I know that they're here. I know that they're here. And I wonder, I just have so many questions about without derailing, right? Like our conversation, like. Creates that opening. And then is that something that you were like you had to kind of learn to hold and learn to manage and learn to kind of turn it on and turn it off? Like, those are some of my questions. Venus: Those are great questions. Um, and wherever you want to go is great. So I was asking because I had quit partying at that point. I was like, okay, now there's gotta be something more. So I was asking for more. I wouldn't say that I was asking for that, Monica: Like, it's like be really specific. Yeah. Yeah, Venus: Yeah. And I do say be careful what you wish for, because you don't know what you're going to get that night. I had a friend once who said the same thing. She's like, oh, I really, she could hear her spirit guides. And she's like, I'd really like to see them. And I said, okay, but see, what's funny. I've developed it over time, but at first I could see them and I couldn't hear them. So I was like playing charades all the time. You guys trying to figure out what they were saying, but they would show me images and things. So I was playing a guessing game a lot of the time. So I wished I could hear it. them And then I hadn't experienced the pairing the amount I thought. Oh no, that's a little too much. Monica: Just kidding. Just kidding. I liked you better when you were just quiet Venus: One you'll never get where you can handle. And I did spend three years resisting it. 'cause. I was just like, absolutely not. I'm I didn't want it. It's in the book. And it was just like, it's a gift I want to give back. I didn't want to be the crazy lady. I didn't want to be seen as weird and that different. And so I fought it, but what I noticed over those three years as I was getting more and more and more depressed. And I didn't know why I was just like, but I was just, I was withdrawing from my mom because my mom and I've always been really close and she wanted to like, talk about things and I couldn't tell her this, this was one of those things I just felt like I couldn't tell her. I didn't think she, I don't know what I thought I couldn't handle it or, you know what my mom think, you know, what if she thought I was crazy? Monica: What if I am crazy? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Venus: Yeah, yeah. But at the same time, I was still a little bit of a closet person because if I was massaging somebody and its spirit walked in the room, I would say, okay, I know this might sound weird, but somebody walked in the room. So. I was resisting it, but I was still willing to do it if it was in those closed quarters and the person said they were open to it. And I only had one person ever say no, you know? And, um, it was even a friend of mine and he was just like, I just don't believe in that. And I said, okay, cool. I'm not going to force it on anybody, you know? Yeah, yeah. I really thought it. And I had this depression and withdrawal and, and then I just said, okay, Apparently universe God, whatever it is gave me this for a reason, I'm just going to step and choose to accept it as part of who I am. And then I sat my mom down and told my mom and my at the time, my mom was even a hospice nurse. So she would say. Like she had three visitors right away, as soon as I told my mom and she said, well, did you think I wouldn't love you anyway? And some of it surprises me, but most of it doesn't and I was like, oh, okay, cool. And then she had three visitors, one right after the other that she had done hospice with and she knew exactly who they were. And so she got her confirmation and I got more mine. So that confirmation over time made me go, okay, well, I'm not, obviously I'm not making this. Yeah. Monica: Okay. Shit bomb here. Okay, cool. Let me go back to what you said though. Cause I don't want to assume when you say visitors, do you mean like visitors or she was working Venus: These people that had passed away that she had helped transition in hospice. You help them and Monica: They visited her. Venus: They visited her. So after I told her, Hey, I'm on medium. She's like, cool. She didn't believe yes or no. She wasn't in a light that energy, but this really confirmed it for her. She was like, oh, I know exactly who those people are. They were all just extremely grateful. My mom's a very kind person. Monica: So, but you were essentially the one who was like, mom, you have three visitors and these are them or would she accessing it? Okay, got it. So it's not like, okay. Wow. That is the coolest thing. And so she was really kind of, that was very validating for both of you and. That's amazing. Venus: Yeah. And at that point I stopped, I stopped hiding it, but what was cool, was it stopped pounding on my door when you resist to anything, anything you resist it persists like, so my resistance was making it louder and harder and, but then as soon as I said it. Whatever this is, what do you want me to do with it? You know, and, and did some clearings. And I I've learned how to clear entities and help them move on and all that stuff. And I was like, okay, now I, it happens sometimes, but it's not as loud as it was when I was resisting then a gift. Monica: Well, and I love to kind of this idea that. the resistance was really creating the density that was, you know, kind of like weighing you into this separation and isolation and depression, which is such a great way to think about. What happens when we resist somethings. That's true. It's kind of the same thing that happens to space when you put judgment in it. And it starts contracting. It's like, and I think so much of this is unconscious because we don't realize, but one thing I've really learned to appreciate about my body is that it's always got the wisdom. And all I have to do is tune in and notice where it's feeling tight or where it's feeling heavy and. Then I can get curious about, okay. Clearly, you know, I'm not in a place of like joy and levity. Okay. That's clue number one. And then just really kind of allowing myself to get curious about like, kind of what's keeping me from being. True. What's keeping me from being me in that state because that's when I'm truly most in touch with myself is when I'm delighted, when I'm, you know, the most joyous when I'm the most honest, when I'm the most connected and centered. Venus: Yeah. I agree. Monica: What does revelation mean to you? Um, Venus: Well, revelation, I I'd almost call it an open. It's like a, it's like a new possibility. They comes in an aha moment, you know, like, Wow. You know, I D I never thought of it that way, or I never saw that before, you know, and I don't know if you've heard of it before, but there's a thing called Landmark Education. I've done it all. Monica: I did like the whole program in my twenties. Yeah. Venus: Yeah. So, um, I don't know if you remember, but it's like, you know what, you know, and you know what you don't know. But there's a whole bunch of stuff that you don't know that you don't know. And so we need to have that aha moment or that revelation that you're like, oh, wow. I didn't know that. I didn't know that, you know, it's like, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't even know it was possible. And that's one of the things I love about access consciousness has been this, like, there's always something more. There is a new level of awareness. There's a new level of revelation. There's a new level of possibility. And in the past I'd always thought that there was a place where I was going to land. Like, well, I'll get there someday. All in the. And it's like where your whole life is, the race. There is no end until you die. And then that's not really the end either, but your body dies and you probably pick up another one. So, you know, it's like, but so there's always more to discover about yourself, about life, about the world. Yeah. I just had an amazing experience going to castle in Italy and staying in a castle and it was just. It just up to my level of receiving in a way and nurturance and abundance and, you know, like seem a whole different level of financial possibility than I had ever experienced. Monica: Tell me more about that? Yeah. Like what inspired, like what inspired, what made that happen? Venus: Well, the castle is actually on my access consciousness and, uh, we have classes there and, but this is my first time going there and we did a class called choice of possibilities, but the whole castle has. Brought back to life and filled with antiques. You literally sit at every meal and eat off of fine China and silver, and there's fine. China, silver tea cups and the elegance, the crystal glasses, like there's so much elegant. The duvet cover that I slept on there is worth $25,000 because it's threaded with real gold thread. I put it had just taken me to a whole different level of possibility and received. But I had never experienced, so I didn't even know it existed. Monica: Okay. I have so much to say about this because it's the enchantment, right? It's like, it's like that way of playing with it's like, why do we save the fine China for the guests that never got. Like, why don't we use the fine China? Why don't we it's like, it's just that moment where you are just letting those barriers fall. And you're like, who am I not to sleep under a comforter? That's, you know, threaded with gold, right? Like it's just this like, wow, this is, and it's not, I get that. It's not the point. Here is not. Capitalistic wealth. Like that's not the point. The point is the sheer, like. It's like that moment where we can indulge, but, but in the best possible way, there's so many, like everything kind of has a light side and a shadow side. And so when I think about how you're expressing this castle experience, it's like, it just allowed you to see this whole other way of. Living in this space of enchantment or opulence or, and say more like, I don't even know, like, I'm just so excited that you even said that, you know? Venus: Yeah. It's, it's an, it's the elegance of living. It's enjoying. Like, why are we here? If we're not here to enjoy life and every aspect of it, ]of the laughter, the yummy food, the Monica: Right. I can feel my Catholic upbringing going gluttony the seven and you know, and they're just like, dear God. Yes. Venus: Yeah, I have, I had that too. And I just was like, I didn't, I just don't believe. If you believe in God, I just don't believe God's up there going new should abstain from everything until you die. And I just don't believe that. So that's just me. I'm not, and I'm not trying to convince anybody to believe like me, but I really believe that we're here to enjoy it. All of it, Monica: Right. Th that, well, and this goes back to like the heaven on earth and it's, there's a way to, I want to bring in what I call the sacred and here, because there's this. The Maya, right? The illusion, right? The way that we can keep ourselves in this, I call it the trance of unworthiness, but it's that illusionary way that we can just separate from our own divinity, from our own sacred worth, and allow for us. To really just tap into the true enjoyment and pleasure and vitality that is here right now in this moment. And that's that training ground for me, that it just took me so long to unbecome from unraveled. From that told me that doing. And was sinful or that somehow I needed to what deprived myself that, you know, I it's all the stuff like that. Poverty is closer to God or whatever those things are that we do in our culture to just stay in the trans and also to recognize that we can be an incredible. Human being in service to other human beings and fully allow and welcome. Resources and wealth and opulence and pleasure, and it doesn't diminish how we serve it. Doesn't diminish who we are. It doesn't mean anything that it doesn't mean anything to talk about a landmark term, right. It's like it's, we're meaning making machines. And so it's really about, I think going back to it's so great that our conversation has literally been like this the whole time. The expansion and the contraction, where do you contract in your body in? Is that, what has that working for you? You know what I mean? Like, and where are you? Like allowing more breath, allowing more love, allowing more pleasure, allowing more perspective, because this is where we've just been totally duped into thinking that it needs to be anything other than a continual expansion. I get that contraction is very useful. Because it gives us that perspective as well of like, oh, this is it's actually like universal law. It's necessary for us to be able to expand. We have to be able to have the shadow to have the lights. So I just, I think that is so cool. And I want to go to the castle. Venus: I will send you the information. Yeah. It's open to the public. So yeah. I also like to challenge people to really think about this. If you have a million dollars or billion dollars, and it's not about the money, but let's just say you have that money. How much more change can you catalyst in the world with a ton of money? Yeah. How much change can you really catalyst if you're broke. So, and again, it's just like that invitation to more, but when you're willing to choose more and have more other people get to say, Hey, I'll have that too. Just like you just did. You were like, that sounds amazing. I want to say that in me. So if I hadn't had that experience, I could have never been the invitation to you. And then you wouldn't have had that. So we've been doing it kind of backwards in this reality where we're like, well, if I suffer enough, I could take everybody with me on this suffering. Rather than why don't you enjoy it more and invite everybody on the journey and some will go with you, but some won't, but that's not all. So your job is your job to try to drag people with you. Monica: So good. One of my mentors and greatest teachers has been Lynne twist who wrote the book, the soul of money, and she teaches a course called the fundraising from the heart. And I believe it's still true that she is like the single largest fundraiser in the world. Male or female for philanthropic causes, causes that are near and dear to her heart. And of course from landmark education, she was the director of the hunger project for many, many years. And over multiple countries and this woman, you know, speaks the language of possibility. And so, you know, it's really like this whole idea too, of enrolling from a place of really being able to create a possibility for somebody to envision and then like they get to step into it or not. But it's this idea of like, Going back to what you said earlier. Like what if, you know, there's nothing to fix? You know, what if it's more about just inviting each other into these possibilities that are near and dear to our heart and sharing in the literally like the true prosperity that is right here right now. Venus: Yeah. And thank you for saying that. Cause I really see that's also how the gratitude plays in. Monica: Please say more Venus: Like, because well, if you're willing to be grateful, gratitude grows. So the more you're grateful for whatever you have, the more you, it will grow. But if you judgment judge, it you'll kill it. So you can use money. For instance. Can you be grateful for the penny that you have, that you found on the ground? And that gratitude will attract more. The universe like attracts, like the universe goes, oh, she likes money. Okay. I'll bring her money. And then you're more grateful. But then if you're judging, well, man, my paycheck wasn't enough. Does money want to come hang out with you do you're right. It's like, right. It's another energy. Exactly. Yep. It puts out stop. Monica: Yes. Yeah. So it's like what you appreciate, appreciate. So, which is of course, one of Lynn's terms to which I felt like that's where you're going with what you were saying with gratitude, but it is, it's so true. It's like really just the energy follows the. You know, it really, it really does. And so the more we can kind of pay attention to what thought am I thinking? And it's like to really think about, better thinking thought, right? It's like that. That's where I think. So many people get confused about like, it is like how we create and these thoughts do materialize. And for whatever reason, I picked up the book last night, it was Moto, I think was the author, but it's the Japanese gentlemen who the water. Yes. And I've been writing about the power of words and as someone who loves. Like, I love the precision of words. I also get really frustrated when there isn't language for things, but. It really, really it's like it hit me at this whole other level about fact that we, as you had said earlier, it's like, there's this percentage of human being we are. And then the rest is like water and light and start us in whatever rate. And it's like, wow. These words, not only the words that we tell ourselves that we think. But also the words we absorb from others, you know, these all make these impressions upon us, which either create a, no matter what it's creating, but is it creating something, you know, more density or is it creating more levity, more light, more possibility, more potential. And I just, I was like looking at some of the photographs of the water, you know, that he put on a microscope after it was frozen and just like, oh my gosh, like these, these crystalline structures right. Of the. The snowflake that would come from the water that was given all of the love words. And then the water that was polluted with words like hatred and violence, or, you know, it was like, it didn't even form. It was like clumps and it's like, oh my gosh, like that's our body. You know, like that's what happens to us is like we get denser and denser. So it just, it's so powerful. And it really, it really hit me, like I said, at a whole different level, I was like, I want to just be impeccable with the things that I say and the things that I think. And of course I'm also humans. That's not possible. And it just kind of brings it back, always into this practice, gratitude, practice, appreciation, centering, being true to myself, which is of course, one of the things that you're all about. And what haven't I asked you, because I would love to share to a little bit more about just what you want our listeners to know about your book and. The invitation that you are to transformation Venus: First and foremost, I'd probably say a year if the one that you're looking for, you know, um, we've been taught from our taught very young from Cinderella and snow white and all the fairytales that I always supposed to feel complete with somebody. Somebody else had completely, and I never found wholeness looking outside of myself. I only found home looking with them. So if everyone could look within and find that same wholeness, there wouldn't be so much sadness. Like this missing energy, like some things, nothing. Yeah. So, and if there are listeners out there that feel like something's missing, what would you tell them? Well, that, yeah, that, that thing that you're missing is you, like, you think it's something else, but it's you, and there's these great tools. The next of consciousness called the five elements of intimacy and honor trust, gratitude, allowance, and vulnerability. And if you practice those five elements in intimacy with yourself, you will never need to look to somebody else to fulfill any of them. And then if somebody comes into your life and they add to it, it's the frosting on the cake, but you're already the cake. Monica: I love that. I also wanted to share that. I loved the part you shared and money or videos about how you wrote here at a forever. And I was so jealous when you said the thing, which was like, it took you two months to write it. Cause it poured out of you and it was, it was 2005, but then you said something that like, I was instantly like, oh my gosh, it took you six years to publish it because you didn't think your story was interesting enough. And I wanted you to say more about that because I think there's so much in that. Venus: Oh yeah. I mean, I, I did ride it really fast and then it took me six years to publish it. Partly because of. I had three editors tell me that I needed to rewrite it. And so I thought, well, if I need to rewrite it and maybe I don't know how to write a book or it's not valuable, but it was never like, Like, I just, I might just not like to go in and rewrite it. I even tried a couple of times and I'm like, I just can't, I can't change this thing that came through me with such ease and joy and laugh. I mean, I laughed at myself so much in those first chapters because it was my life story, but it's literally how I see it now. So, and when I was about to toss out. And I ended up sending it to a friend of mine and I said, you know what? She's a writer as well. And I said, you know, maybe you could take a look at this. Maybe you might know how to, I can extrapolate something or something. And she called me three days later and she said, I don't read anymore. I don't have time. And she said, I couldn't put your book down and I wouldn't change a thing. So I self published and. And because I didn't need somebody else to tell me, I just, and then it went bestseller. So obviously the book had a life of its own and wanted him to be out there in the world. Monica: Yeah. Well, and to go back to those five, Things that we're missing. Right. If somebody is feeling like something's missing like that, you just kind of demonstrated honoring right yourself, trusting yourself. And just the way that, that kind of played out was such a great example of kind of you shutting out the noise to be out there and just really honoring yourself and trusting that what you produced was perfect. Just the way it was. And I just loved kind of hearing that because. I am, you know, I think we teach what we most right needed to know and need to know and continue to need to practice. And for me, it's, it's kind of all about this disrupting the trends of unworthiness and really this practice of radical self approval and just really inviting like that to be a conversation, especially for women, because I think that we have these incredible stories. To tell that have so much value and that give each other permission. When we give ourselves permission, what we're modeling and doing that and honoring ourselves as we're modeling that that's, that's kind of the new way. And in order to break out of that trance and in order to really change. The reality, the story that overstory, right, that kind of continually gets told in our culture. That's where I feel like women have such a massive role to play. And so if we're kind of like, my story is not good enough, or my story is not interesting enough, or I didn't have, you know, this massive before and after whatever we make it into, right. That we can possibly share it. That that's just kind of part of the trance and. So I loved that you shared that because it's important to recognize. I think that we kind of still, no matter how much work we've done, no matter how great our life has become, we still run into these things that get us stuck sometimes for quite a little bit. So is the other thing that I love. I definitely am really the more I've interviewed folks from access consciousness, the more I've been like, all right, I have got to go and like, just be with these people because I I've just love everybody that I've met is just warm and wonderful and generous and kind, and. It's just like, it's just been so cool to meet so many of you through the podcast. And one of the things that I love about what you are always doing, what I see you all model are these really powerful questions that just really kind of open again, expand space. Like it's just, it's just really just, they can be really simple. One thing that I heard you ask was being used. What if that was your only job, like, and I want to pose that to our listeners, right? Because it's like, seriously, what if being, you was the only job that you had was to just truly be you truly honor who you are, how would that change your reality? It's like powerful. Venus: Yeah. I mean, it is like, you are. There's nobody else in the world. Like you, it just isn't. So if everybody can get that kind of themselves, but your gifts exactly the way you are exactly the way you're not does it, you know, Monica is way different than I am, but Monica brings Monica and all of her guests and all of her beauty and, and, and I bring what I bring and Dan brings what he brings and like, It's such an invitation post-op judging ourselves or comparing ourselves to, and just being like, okay, you is a gift being here is an invitation to others that. As well, they can have that as well. If you choose it, others can choose it. Monica: Yeah. And it's, it's also a great kind of metaphor for me for the revelation project too, because it's like, I unbecoming from everything we thought we needed to be, to become who we really are to reveal who we really are. And you know, that. That's heaven. You know, it's like just the space to explore, to receive, to honor, to trust, to reveal more and more of ourselves. And that includes, you know, revealing ourselves to ourselves and revealing ourselves to each other. I mean, I think too, like the second we think we know somebody is like that too is such an illusion because they're changing with every moment, just like we are. And the second we try to peg somebody is like, the moment we pin the butterfly is like, the magic juice is gone. And so. I really invite our listeners, you know, and to check out access consciousness as one of those portals into, you know, coming back home to yourself. Cause there's many, I mean, there's many ways, many paths, many tools. But it's just such a beautiful way. You guys have created really just a set of methods and tools that I think are, make this work so available for so many people. So I just really honor you Venus. I have enjoyed our conversations so much today. Your energy brings so much peace and yeah, you have this real centered way about you. That just really allows. So thank you. Venus: That's perfect. Something recently that I realized part of being me. Right. It's like, I actually am bring that and invite others to the possibility. Oh, well, what can you bring? You know, what magic and possibility can you invite people to wonder. And you'll love it. I know I'm everything you've studied and all the things that you love to do, you'll love access Conscious. Monica: Just, oh, I have no doubt. No doubt. No, I just I'll meet you at the castle and our listeners join us and, you know, and Venus, is there anything that you want to invite people to check out that's coming up or, you know, any, any place you want to direct them? Venus: Well, it's not up yet, but it will be up soon. And since we talked about it, I am doing a being used quite a class at the castle in October. You want to come in my requisite for it. So Monica: You know what Austin and I have been looking to do some things. So I want to talk about that and just get some more insight on that, because that sounds just amazing. And so, yeah. Well, we'll all meet you there. And in the meantime, I'll put all of the links in the show notes and Venus will probably, you know, just be in touch cause I'm sure, you know, there's always more to be revealed. So thanks again for just being here and thanks again to our listeners for tuning and Venus: Thank you, Monica for being you and the guests that you are in the world really. Monica: Thank you. Thank you. Okay. For our listeners more to be revealed. we hope you enjoyed this episode. For more information, please visit us@jointherevelation.com and be sure to download our free gift, subscribe to our mailing list or leave us a review on iTunes. We thank you for your generous listening and as always more to be revealed.