Episode 57
Sean Tibor: [00:00:00] Hello, and welcome to teaching Python. This is episode 57 last minute holiday gift guide for the techie kid.
My name's Sean Tibor. I'm a coder who teaches. 
Kelly Paredes: [00:00:24] And my name's Kelly, she used to parade is, and I'm a teacher who copes. 
Sean Tibor: [00:00:28] So Kelly, this is our first episode in year three of teaching Python. Can you believe it? 
Kelly Paredes: [00:00:33] It's incredible. I can't believe it's been three years with you. 
Sean Tibor: [00:00:36] Yeah.
And you haven't killed me yet, or always having succeeded, whichever works, 
Kelly Paredes: [00:00:40] Absolutely. No, it's been awesome. It's been such a great time. And I just was thinking back and looking back at all our episodes and I couldn't pick the favorite one you asked which one was the favorite one and everyone was like, A really special moment. So 
Sean Tibor: [00:00:55] Yeah. And what's amazing today is that this is a bit of a blast from the past, were in the same room, recording just you and I know guests, nobody else. It's just us talking like it was when we started and it's pretty cool, but we've learned a few things you're taking off your jewelry. So it doesn't jangle on. 
Podcast where like real professionals now. 
Kelly Paredes: [00:01:12] Yeah, and I get, we get that plexiglass between us. 
Sean Tibor: [00:01:15] Yeah. And it's been an interesting ride with everything that's happened over the last two years between Corona virus and us learning how to teach, learning, how to code we've put together. This is episode 57, so 56 prior episodes in the first two years and over 183,000 downloads of our podcast, which. 
Still is amazing to me. I think. Every time someone says, I've heard your podcast. And I like it. And I say, really. More than once you've listened to more than one episode. that's incredible. it's amazing. I 
Kelly Paredes: [00:01:43] think the real.
funny thing that just happened to me last week was my girlfriend in Peru. So she was taking her master's course. And her instructor in Spain who is also proven. Said he heard us. So hello there. Professor of the master course. Whoever you are, send us a message on Twitter, but I thought that was amazing. 
And what a flat world we live in right now with this podcast and everyone, we can get ahold of everyone and talk to them and share our stories. It's just been really nice. 
Sean Tibor: [00:02:11] It's pretty neat. And I'm just excited to be on the ride. So I'm a big, thank you to all of our listeners, everyone who's downloaded and supported us and ask questions and everything. Even when we haven't responded to the emails from the list, your inbox, we do read them all. And we thank you for your support and your sharing in our journey. So thank you for that.
Kelly Paredes: [00:02:30] Cool. Let's get into this holiday guide or are we doing wins?
Sean Tibor: [00:02:32] we gotta do wins of the week though.
I are you at first or am I.
Kelly Paredes: [00:02:36] I'm up first. 
I don't even let you 
Sean Tibor: [00:02:38] Oh, okay, go ahead. Go ahead.
Kelly Paredes: [00:02:39] I had a really good win. we always talk about the card games and the seventh grade, and I was speaking to an eighth grader. 
This Quarter After just teaching A really seamless card game in three functions So much such cleaner code this year for me And the eighth grader was It was really hard processing the the card game But this year I feel like my brain's working differently And she was telling about her card game which was 500 plus lines of code We mentioned her in last year And how she was doing the cards of humanity And she's she says I was looking at my co going wow That made sense When I was coding it last year But now with my 90 lines of code I it's so different the way I think And it's just amazing how far I've gone from six to nine then And I thought that was a huge one and just a good overall feeling 
Sean Tibor: [00:03:32] Yeah It's amazing to see how far she's come on her own journey of coding And the part that I find really enjoyable is reading through her code and it's really a window into how she thinks and you can see that change Every time she code something new you can see something new from her thought process and something new that she's learned and the breakthroughs that she has And it's really rewarding to see that 
Kelly Paredes: [00:03:55] I'm glad she's with you now So you get to share that moment She's a great 
Sean Tibor: [00:03:59] kid 
Kelly Paredes: [00:04:00] So great coder looking out for her in the future 
Sean Tibor: [00:04:02] Exactly I think my win this week was I've been working on a project to build an API And my learning curve has been really steep on it because I'm trying to do it the right way And learning fast API but it turns out that it has a lot of other things that can come along with it And so I'm learning not just fast API but pedantic schema is and how to do Docker swarms and deployments with traffic as a HTTP proxy and all these things that kinda go along with that and I forgot how much I enjoy that process of cascading learning right You learn one thing and then you realize Oh I gotta learn this other thing in order to do that thing And then I have to learn this thing in order to do those things and it chains together but when it all works it's really satisfying to have it actually come to life and work And it was a nice reminder for me of the journey that our students go through To learn something really hard And then actually see it work at the end and how satisfying that can be 
Kelly Paredes: [00:04:56] That's very cool I told Sean on Monday he lost mad API and I blame all those people that were helping him along the way learn because now I'm really behind but one day 
Sean Tibor: [00:05:06] Yeah you're learning your own things 
Kelly Paredes: [00:05:08] Absolutely 
Sean Tibor: [00:05:09] the so that kind of leads me into my fail this week and it was a fail and a win at the same time It was I think it was in class and someone made a joke it was directed me and they didn't mean anything by it wasn't anything harmful or anything but they just made a joke and they said she instead of he and I said why is that funny And we talked about that as a class And I said this is the reason why I'm here Is that we want to make sure that everyone's welcoming and included in our space and that making jokes even if they're not intended to be something harmful or mean spirited It still has a A negative slant to it and it still makes people feel unwelcome And I said making a joke that I'm a girl instead of a boy That joke Isn't really funny right And it's and there's nothing wrong with being a woman right there's no Like why would I why would that be funny to me Or why would that harm me And so we talked a little bit about the role That everyone plays in technology and computer science and the way that we want to change and shape that workforce that we're going to be going into like all these students are going to be in the workforce or 10 in 10 or 15 years And I'd really like for that workforce to be welcoming and inclusive and value all of their ideas and their personalities and the way that they think and the way that they behave And it has to start here I don't know if I did the conversation right Or if I thought about it the right way or said the right things but the intent is We start now with that conversation about what it means to be a part of the technology community and however ones Contributions are valued and their backgrounds are valued and who they are and what they bring to the table And I hope that even if one or two kids take something away from that or feel a little bit better about their place in it then we've done something right 
Kelly Paredes: [00:06:52] Hope I mean it's we have such a huge Job that some people who are not teachers or educators 
Sean Tibor: [00:06:59] Sometimes 
Kelly Paredes: [00:06:59] forget that we're just not teaching code So it's a lot to take on and you've done it while this past three years 
Sean Tibor: [00:07:06] Thank you Thank you I had a great teacher great mentor 
Kelly Paredes: [00:07:09] we're getting mushy on the Christmas 
Sean Tibor: [00:07:10] Oh we can't do that 
Kelly Paredes: [00:07:12] Or Hanukah time 
Sean Tibor: [00:07:13] Let's get into rampant hardcore consumerism and talk about buying stuff for the holidays 
Kelly Paredes: [00:07:17] Absolutely We'll skip my fail to this week 
Sean Tibor: [00:07:20] there are no fails this week He did everything right
Kelly Paredes: [00:07:24] Alright so you want to go first on your first 
Sean Tibor: [00:07:27] where's this coming from Because I think this came from something that you experienced repeatedly over the last week or two which is the usual early December question that you get 
Kelly Paredes: [00:07:37] I get keep getting these texts from my friends saying what should I buy And there's so many things out there and people want to go for sometimes those quick little gadgets Which are great but if they're not in an educator's hands It just turns into a line following robot or something that they roll around and forget to charge or they have something that needs to connect with an iPad or they need an app and then they don't want them too much in the in the iPad or on the devices so much And constantly get this question of what should I get my kid they're really into computer science or they're really into building something And we put together a list a short list This is a very short list And some of these things are the things that I actually got my children So I don't really have to teach them computer science because the computers themselves teach it So you'll see what I mean in my list And then Sean you put your first five to right 
Sean Tibor: [00:08:32] Yeah I picked out a bunch of things that I hope are going to bring people towards the maker side of learning So how to make things and giving kids some tools and things that they can actually learn with And grow into a more of a maker mentality for making and creating things So I hope it could work out pretty far Pretty fun for the kids that are on the receiving end of this 
Kelly Paredes: [00:08:52] Okay you can go first because I'm going to say my favorite one for last 
Sean Tibor: [00:08:55] You're going to say your favorite one For last Okay Fair enough Okay So my first one and this is I can't believe you missed it on your list the new microbit So the new microbit V2 is out It is compatible with much of the same code that is in the original microbit V One that we've used so successfully is such a great versatile little tool I can't think of a better $15 to spend on a bit of silicone and metal right Like it we've used it for robotics We've used it for maker projects We've made fish swim with it We've played music with it We've done art with it We've powered Neo pixels where they're like you can basically hook up just about anything to a microbit and it's pretty amazing how well it works and the new version Has a couple of really nice features on it that I like first of all it has better clips for the alligator clips So like little slots so that the clip state put better little quality of life things like that But it also has a microphone and a speaker on it now So rather than hooking up an external speaker to make it work which is always a little tricky with all the cables and stuff like that it's all built in now So you can make it sing You can make it play music There's even a library to make a microbit speak and you can do all of that With the new microbit Yeah 
Kelly Paredes: [00:10:08] maybe more people will be doing at home because when the speakers come out it's It's not so much fun Of hearing happy birthday and Don What is the graduation song that they always play 
Sean Tibor: [00:10:19] There's always a day with your sixth graders where I'm like okay this is it This is the day where they're they've discovered the music 
Kelly Paredes: [00:10:27] Yes it's a great easy gift And it's so versatile and you can use Python or make code which makes it compatible from Third graders second graders even if they can read up To high school almost Yeah 
Sean Tibor: [00:10:42] Yeah it's it's really great And it makes it really easy It is pin for pin compatible with the original microbit So if you get any accessories that worked with the original microbit they'll work with a microbit V2 also 
Kelly Paredes: [00:10:53] we'll call since you said the microbead I'm going to have to put in this new bot that I'm investigating And I'm really I really like it From the first stage of investigation I have not bought this for my son although he will be playing with it for sure It's the Finch robot to from Birdbrain technologies So what I really like about this robot that stands out from all the other robots that we get for the microbit Is that this one is compatible With a bunch of different types of coding languages There is Finch blocks which is their own I guess personal blocks bird blocks I guess again their own personal snap which we used with the sewing machines and doing embroidery kind of designs may code flash Java script So you can do either block JavaScript block may code or JavaScript Python and Java Now I've only investigated the Python version It's very simple There is a little bit of a hiccup with connecting with the Bluetooth But I contacted bird brain and instantaneously She emailed me back and forth on a Sunday evening helping me get connected They have tons of little Features right out of the box when you're and when you're using the bird brain distance sensor line tracking Light sensor You can draw you put a little pen in there and you can make those kinds of like spiral graph designs with your for loops and stuff So it's just a simple little robot where you slide the microbit in If you Don't have a microbit You have to buy one and or you can buy it from them for one 39 So what a powerful robot Just make sure that your children are riding on something that It is not that is paper or a whiteboard marker on a whiteboard platform Otherwise you're going to have a lot of messes 
Sean Tibor: [00:12:51] Yeah And I don't know if they're including the new microbit or the old microbead in there 
Kelly Paredes: [00:12:54] It works for both 
Sean Tibor: [00:12:55] works It does work for both which is great I think the next one that we almost had the same line of thought with two different raspberry PI computers so mine was the new raspberry PI 400 It is out of stock at the moment We tried to pick things that you could actually order today at the time of this recording But the raspberry PI 400 just came out This fall is very much in demand but the places that we look to find it on ADA fruit and spark fund are projecting that they may have some stock back in before Christmas if you're looking to shop for that or all of this money for other purposes the raspberry PI 400 takes a raspberry PI four computer And it puts it inside a keyboard which makes me love of this because it brings me back to the Commodore 64 days where the computer was in the keyboard but it has to HTMI output It has USB ports on it you can get a kit that comes with a mouse to plug into it but basically you can get this raspberry PI Plug it straight into a TV or a monitor And your student has a full fledged raspberry PI computer right there And it's much more durable than having a bare board So it's a pretty cool Setup and I'm excited to get my hands on one I just haven't pulled the trigger on it yet 
Kelly Paredes: [00:14:08] we have played with the next one that I'm going to say And that's the PI top four We have two of them 
Sean Tibor: [00:14:13] in the 
Kelly Paredes: [00:14:15] I took it home I think you took your home as well during last years online learning I gave it to my ten-year-old who followed along the tutorial and had a couple of LED's blinking So literally 10 years old coding in Python it was a copy and paste kind of thing But he the idea for me with him was seeing if he can follow directions seeing if he can plug in the light I think the directions in the beginning were a little bit hard so I had to help him But once he was in there plugging away putting the cables and it was great And then I had a sixth grader As well this last quarter playing around with it It has everything If you get the Sensor foundation kit Along with the PI top four you can have again lights Sound ultrasonic sensor they have a push buttons and it's all in this tiny little box which I like 
Sean Tibor: [00:15:06] Yeah There's some really cool features on this So at its core it's still a raspberry PI four However they've built around at this really great ruggedized enclosure That's well really thoughtfully designed that has a little led screen on the top for status information you can remote connect to it via USB so you can plug it into your computer and Telnet or via or Telnet SSH or VNC into it over the USB cable you can connect it to wifi You can plug it into a monitor with a keyboard even has a battery built into it So for short periods of time you can run it Without having it plugged into the wall which is great for moving it around a classroom or a bedroom or something like that If you want to go learn something over here or you write a program with the sensors in the lights and things like that and you want to run it somewhere for a short period of time it's got a built-in battery on it and kinda character and wifi and everything like that It's really thoughtfully designed and it's been great to see how the PI top has developed and evolved from the PI top to see the PI top three And now the PI top four seems like a really nice evolution 
Kelly Paredes: [00:16:10] Yeah And they have the versatile DIY version which doesn't come with the sensors But if you're that person that wants to put a rugged raspberry PI we don't have it But I saw pictures where you put it with a drone you build out a robot and then you can add your own sensors on it So just a cool idea if you're more like that hardware guy like Sean 
Sean Tibor: [00:16:28] Yep 
Kelly Paredes: [00:16:29] the stuff in the box 
Sean Tibor: [00:16:30] really great They're both great between the raspberry PI 400 for that keyboard approach or the PI top four which has a lot of extra add-ons and features It's a really nice approach to learning with the raspberry 
Kelly Paredes: [00:16:40] and I think it's at what two 39 ish 
Sean Tibor: [00:16:42] Yeah So it's It is definitely you can see where they put the money into it It is not just a raspberry PI with a fancy case It has a lot of nice features that have been added onto it All right that brings me to one of my favorite ones This is one that I bought and what brought home for my own daughter It is a relatively inexpensive DIY unicorn headband kit that lights up So my daughter is seven and we're big into making things and creating things And she's very creative and loves to work with her hands And this doesn't have a lot of programming to it or anything but I just wanted to spur her imagination along a little bit with this headband kit that comes from ADA fruit I think they sourced it from another supplier but I got it there And it has a light-up led kit that changes colors on it You can decorate it the way you want Parts are adhesive and they stick together and everything So it's really easy to make but a lot of fun And I can't wait to see her play with it and have fun with 
Kelly Paredes: [00:17:37] Very cool I this is another one of my favorites At least as a parent who's trying to teach independence I'm trying to instill responsibility and your child or children I put in and actually it was my ten-year-old who asked if he could have it was the echo dot the small version of the sorry just went bright Alexa I'm blank for a second It's the fourth generation It's She wasn't sure about that Sorry Alexa just responded Okay And I put it in their room They use it to set timers We have a 15 minute timer for reading They check the weather they play songs they search for definitions of words while they're reading it's really cute They ask what was the score on the on a soccer game All kinds of questions is showing them that they have the power to answer their own questions with the help of technology they do have another version I just saw Which is more of an echo dot for kids I do not have that version It's more like I'm a little animal kind of thing But just make sure you check your settings and security settings I know we discussed that here at school a lot about the voices and where it gets stored and everything But mine is connected to my account So I have the ability to check on the privacy and 
Sean Tibor: [00:19:03] Yeah there's a couple settings that I checked I got a couple of these for my kids on prime day Also And I set it so that the free time is enabled So it puts on parental restrictions and content controls on what they can ask Alexa but then there's also buried in your Alexa app There is a voice history of everything that they've asked So I found out a couple of things Like I found out that my son asked Alexa what time it was 27 times and 15 minutes before he was supposed to wake up in the morning before he was allowed to get out of bed So he was just itching to get going And he used a Alexa to figure out how much time he had before he could leave I also found out that when he had some friends that came over with an older brother that Alexa learn some new words that I wasn't really looking forward to but what was great about it was that it allowed me to have a conversation with them and talk to my kids about what even though this is a robot even though it's a voice assistant we still have to behave ourselves And we still are controlling ourselves And our behavior Even when our friends are over and I think it was a great opportunity to have that discussion and it's worth checking to see how your kids are doing I one of my favorite things with it in addition to empowering kids is that My own children have discovered the sleep tight relax podcast And it's a soothing sounds for calming busy minds And last night they were getting Peter pan read to them in a nice soothing voice And it was really great to see them just relax and find that ritual that helps them go to sleep every night 
Kelly Paredes: [00:20:33] my kids found the Mandalorian theme song and I've heard that every night for the past four weeks 
Sean Tibor: [00:20:38] don't tell my kids about that 
Kelly Paredes: [00:20:41] All right Number four on your list 
Sean Tibor: [00:20:43] So number four on my West I actually bundled a bunch of my favorite books together from no starch press So these are books that I would consider to be great for kids to learn about different aspects of computer science robotics electronics things that I've found really to be helpful So we have everything from a beginner guide to circus circuits We have the Python for kids book which has fantastic teacher kids to code And the computer science activity book which is a new one that I haven't played with too much yet but it's a pen and paper Workbook with computer science activities on it So it's a great way for kids to have something that's an unplugged activity With some ready-made I activities that they can do in their workbook and learn about computer science without being in front of a screen 
Kelly Paredes: [00:21:26] That's good So I also picked a book I like the DK books the DK eye witness books they're like little dictionaries old school picture Pictionary dictionaries They have a really good one that I bought my six year old it's on robots And you can discover everything about robots Now this is a general overview This isn't exactly how robots run for per se but there is Information from the early Greek robots all the way to fictional robots to artificial intelligence There's the pictures are amazing And I liked the little sub sub reading Subutex with the pictures and it just starts these conversations And my son can sit there and look at the pictures over and over again if you've never seen a DK eyewitness book I suggest it highly The one on the Greek myths is Also good 
Sean Tibor: [00:22:23] yeah that's one of the things that I love about robots is that our imagination as humans has out often outstripped our ability with technology to make it happen So we can look at all of that history from the Greek mythology to even the Gollum the method the Gollum the Animated clay A creature that was controlled by Eastern European rabbis is a really cool way to think about how we have as people imagine things and then found ways to actually make that work I don't know that robots are going to be made out of clay anytime soon But the fact that we've made these robots these animated or animatronic devices that can perform tasks Is pretty cool but we've been thinking about it for a very long time My last pack And this is one that's maybe for older kids a little bit or if you're interested in this as well something that can work well with younger kids I put a couple of 3d printers on my list so I've had great experience with the Prusa MK Three S which is their kind of top of the line traditional plastic printer but the proofs of many has been updated and I think it comes out in January So you may be able to get the regular many or this many plus that's coming out in January It's a great printer It works really well I've had great luck with it And these printers are great for beginners It's great to tinker with and play with And if you pair it with software like tinker cat or fusion three 60 You can design and make some pretty cool stuff around the house that solves real problems 
Kelly Paredes: [00:23:55] Yep I'm really excited We're getting into the fusion three 60 here and Sean's bringing in all kinds of pencil Pencil cases we're going to have about 64 of them from the students in robotics And they're going to be building their own Robot cases per se for the microbit So if you've bought the microbit you can also print out some gadgets Attach some servers to it and some breakout boards And you can use those to build your own robots with your eyewitness news came book 
Sean Tibor: [00:24:24] Exactly Exactly And so if you're not willing to go for the Prusa which takes maybe a little bit of lead time to get to you or in January I also put a link to the Sobell S V Oh one 3d printer It's on Amazon and you can get it shipped now for a lot of these printers that are coming from Amazon that are less expensive A nice thing to do is to pair it with a raspberry PI and use the Okta print or octopi program for it that will help you remotely manage and monitor your printer So you can print stuff from like a memory card that's plugged into it or you can access it from your computer or phone over your network And be able to print stuff to it So for example today I logged into my printer at home and send a print job to it so that by the time we get home it will be about halfway done 
Kelly Paredes: [00:25:05] Very cool All right The last one on my list and like my favorite I can't wait til Christmas When my youngest son opens us is the Anna Metronic edition of the star Wars the child or grow go if you haven't 
Sean Tibor: [00:25:22] Oh spoiler 
Kelly Paredes: [00:25:24] Was already passed on are by some big 
Sean Tibor: [00:25:26] maybe I don't know We'll let it go this time 
Kelly Paredes: [00:25:28] he can crop that out 
Sean Tibor: [00:25:30] You 
Kelly Paredes: [00:25:30] can bleep it out in the middle of it So anyways last year I bought my son A tiger that had about fifth 12 different sound And we talked about sensors and where the sensors were on this lion and he just really likes it and it's just amazing that he can touch He can make a voice command and it will do something well with this one there's over 25 sounds in motions touching the top of the child And I'm just reading from Cause I haven't turned it on yet I saw the video But you can touch the touch the head And the child makes happy and all kinds of noises his little ears move His arm goes out He gets tired when he tries to do the force eyes open and close 
Sean Tibor: [00:26:16] You can lay him down and he'll take a nap 
Kelly Paredes: [00:26:18] Lay him down and 
Sean Tibor: [00:26:19] I think he's snores a little bit too It's adorable 
Kelly Paredes: [00:26:21] So it's just a great opportunity that unplugged activity where you can talk about the fact of inputs and outputs and sensors and how a computer works and what are the conditional maybe statements that you're doing with that If I touch his head what's going to happen If I make a sound what's going to happen And it's just a great segue into getting the kids to think about conditional statements and how they can program stuff in the future 
Sean Tibor: [00:26:48] Yeah it's a great example of marrying interest with insight and learning 
Kelly Paredes: [00:26:53] the Mandalorian which we're all addicted to at least Sean and Sean's family and my family 
Sean Tibor: [00:26:58] We're loving it a lot So I might be the only one in my family Who's watching it every week but my kids are a little bit young for it So I screen them right 
Kelly Paredes: [00:27:08] Excellent That's our top 10 
Sean Tibor: [00:27:10] Yeah there's a lot of great stuff in here If you have ideas please feel free to share them on Twitter Also we're looking for all kinds of fun stuff there's a lot of great holiday gift ideas out there And what we're really trying to do is just avoid that kind of click bait at the top of the Amazon search results where they've put STEM into the title to get people to buy it but it doesn't actually have any learning associated with it So these are things that we know you can take further You can learn more It gives Kid's a starting point for learning more about STEM topics and to be a little bit creative and have some fun with it 
Kelly Paredes: [00:27:42] Yeah so happy holidays 
Sean Tibor: [00:27:44] Yeah Yeah Kelly do you have any big plans for the holiday break in terms of learning new Python things or taking a break from Python or 
Kelly Paredes: [00:27:50] no I'm going well we had a great conversation Chris Bailey has sent me some things I just went blank 
Sean Tibor: [00:27:59] Oh you were doing things with decorators with Mike Driscoll had some stuff 
Kelly Paredes: [00:28:03] sorry Mike Driscoll Sorry Yes I just went blank with Molson Python sent me also some decorators and I was like do I need to learn decorators So maybe I don't know We'll wait let me get through my data science from real Python series and some of my code challenges but yeah I'm still working on a lot of things on data science and just really loving What's coming out from the pandas tutorials and my head's exploding but it's fun 
Sean Tibor: [00:28:28] Nice Nice 
Kelly Paredes: [00:28:31] Andrew couple 
Sean Tibor: [00:28:33] of things. 
Kelly Paredes: [00:28:33] API
Sean Tibor: [00:28:34] I have some API stuff that I'm working on. So I want to keep building out my API that I've been working on as a side project for a few weeks now. now that I have the basic framework working and it's going to production. one of the things I put in place was a CIC D system. So I can push changes.
Automatically and have it tested and everything. So now that I have the flow working from end to end. Now it's time to start adding enhancements to it and thinking about what's next. pretty excited about that. I also have some computer vision stuff that I want to do. I've been doing a lot of stuff with home assistant around my house and my next step is to make it so that in addition to detecting that there's a person outside. 
It can tell you who that person is. So I'm working on some. projects for that using AWS. And I want to make sure that I'm doing it right and doing it securely. So I've got a lot to learn. 
Kelly Paredes: [00:29:18] cool. And the other big thing that we're going to be thinking about for our next quarter, because when we come back to this school next quarter, whole new group of kids. We're trying to really figure out how to ween. Students off of this grade, doing things just for a grade and more on, authentic assessments. Thank you for one of our listeners for bringing that up. it really made me think about the fact that sometimes having the students do work. To learn. Or to just investigate some topics isn't necessary and an authentic assessment of what they have learnt. So we're been doing a lot of brainstorming in the past. two days, it's incredible what the talks that we've been having and how we might do some changes with really getting a. 
Valid and reliable source of information on what our kids are actually learning, not based on a number grade, if that makes any sense to our listeners.
Sean gets them. I'm processing as we go. But look forward to that. We hope to have some information on how we're going to take our assessments to a whole different level and get some authenticity. 
Sean Tibor: [00:30:28] Yeah. So I think it's going to be a really good second half of the year. We've got a lot coming our way. We're going to keep podcasting as we go and sharing our thoughts with you. We have more blog posts coming. We're going to be sharing more on social media. If you'd like to follow us on social media, our Twitter handles are, Kelly parade on Twitter for Kelly. 
At S M Tibor for me on Twitter and at teaching Python. You can also find me on get hub as at SRS, Sean Tiber. so if you have some stuff on there that you'd like to see more of, let me know, I do need to go back and update our microbit organisms. A project. I think there's some new things we could do there to make that better. but there are, we're going to start putting more resources out there for you on our website, which is teaching python.fm. 
so I think that's it. it's, It's a pretty good solid week. There's a lot of things going on right now. We've got what another week and a half left of the school year before 2021. And then it's off to recharge our batteries and get ready for the new year. 
Kelly Paredes: [00:31:25] Excellent. 
Sean Tibor: [00:31:26] All right. So for teaching Python, this is Sean. This 
Kelly Paredes: [00:31:28] is Kelly. signing off.