00:00.00
thatsdope
Yo yo yo is god's will back again with another episode. We're on episode 1 of 4 and I brought one of my longtime friends Lee Henry ah we've known each other since middle school right? like I guess it's like wow almost twenty years that we've know each other huh.

00:16.80
Leezus
Yeah, ah, sixth grade if I recall correctly and I do want to give a big shout out to the editor of ah gods will's podcast here for I'm assuming editing in the snake eater theme which I requested be played as my kind of walkup song.

00:30.86
thatsdope
I'll see what we can do you know, usually like we you know what I haven't had an asked like that. But I'll do it fucking Why not all right? but you know that's you know I hope.

00:36.45
Leezus
All right I'll pay for it. It's 99 sets I hope although now that we have the remake coming I maybe it's actually a premium.

00:45.55
thatsdope
You know? so I don't really have a lot of hopes for that honestly like I do like I even put in my wish list last night like I was like ooh this could be pretty cool but oh no like Konami hi just is such a bummer these days you know and.

00:50.76
Leezus
Um, yeah.

01:00.92
Leezus
Yeah, it's it's tricky and I mean it's weird as primarily I'd say like film is my you know, big medium and movies and remakes reboots. It's just I'm real sick of it. It's like starting to really upset me. Um, so but on the game side. You know it's a great way to play things.

01:10.13
thatsdope
Yeah.

01:16.83
Leezus
We were either too young to play or to yeah too young to actually understand when we played which is definitely the case I'm assuming for middle gear. Solid 3

01:18.15
thatsdope
Um, yeah, oh absolutely I mean I think because also the only way you can play it right now is still just on PS 3 like here. Yeah.

01:29.37
Leezus
Do they have it online I'm I've tried to think I'm like but I don't have a PS 3 there's no way because yeah.

01:34.10
thatsdope
Yeah, like I think you can stream it on your PS four PS 5 like you have to have like 1 of those accounts you know PS now I think um, but you know no one has that so I don't know like I but yeah I mean for me I'm even trying to one of my goals This year is to try to 100%

01:44.39
Leezus
Um, yeah.

01:51.44
thatsdope
All of the games el least so like I did for Miller Solid to ah, did for 5 in peace maker and then right now I'm trying go for 3 and 4 So yeah, yeah, it's a lot. But.

01:55.11
Leezus
Car.

02:03.94
thatsdope
I'm excited I'm excited for like the new generation now to enjoy especially like just as you said I think like we're too young to enjoy it back in two thousand S when it came out now ah is a perfect time. Perfect time like about like Ai and technology I can get into this milk your shit all day honestly. So.

02:10.27
Leezus
E.

02:21.22
thatsdope
Yeah, ah so I'll say but but but you said you said that you're tired of remakes like in in movies and and theater I guess right? Um, yeah, guys. Yeah, tell me tell me what you're thinking.

02:21.62
Leezus
Um, yeah I.

02:28.22
Leezus
Yeah, yeah, well, it's a combo right? Um I'm a lifelong comic book reader specifically a Marvel comics reader. Having said that feel like we've done it feel like after endgame ever since then there's been a couple of like like shang qi was an incredible movie worth watching.

02:35.13
thatsdope
Yes.

02:47.90
Leezus
Ah, but you know really I feel like we're in a pretty steep decline and we've seen just how devastating it is to the studio filmmaking industry I mean you're always going to have talented people get together to make great work. Ah, fun fact this past year's academy awards the best picture winner everything everywhere all at once is ah.

03:04.70
thatsdope
Um.

03:06.69
Leezus
It was a studio a 24 which is you know the like the heavy hitter among the small hitters and it is.

03:10.00
thatsdope
Yeah, is it small I guess like now that one like sort of boosted it up to like a bigger hitter right.

03:18.72
Leezus
Well, it's it's so tricky because like box office doesn't mean anything anymore. It's kind of like in you know, 2005 ish when Itunes was officially a thing and and you know ah artists had to be like all right? Well we're never going to make money from selling music again. We just have to tour all the time.

03:19.20
thatsdope
Who.

03:32.24
thatsdope
Ah.

03:33.65
Leezus
And we're having to make that pivot with like streaming but the cool thing about I think the one good thing in all of this is that we've had some really incredible art come out of the the ah move away from looking to studios to put out good stuff and while I think that is training audience habits very negatively I e.

03:46.64
thatsdope
Um, and.

03:51.30
thatsdope
Um, yeah, yeah.

03:52.14
Leezus
I will see 3 movies a year right? I will take my kids to a to a cartoon movie that's reductive. But I don't care I will go to 1 the Marvel movies the one that I like that has the guy that my wife likes or the girl that I like whatever it is ah also heteronormative coming from a gay dude. Whatever will continue.

04:00.96
thatsdope
Yes, the.

04:08.31
Leezus
And then the whatever capital a capital m action movie that Tom Cruise is starring in and and I think that's really bad. Yeah.

04:13.71
thatsdope
Ah, yeah, That's a good point Honestly like it's although yeah I mean I guess you're right? Yeah people like are seeing less movies. Although I guess it feels sort of same to me like were people like in the back of day going like to more experimental movies right? like um. I'll know.

04:34.52
Leezus
Yeah, yeah, you know the cult hit is ah it's kind of a misleading term because colt hit implies that it eventually made money That's not really, um, they almost always tanked and even really good movies tank all the time like you know that again.

04:39.17
thatsdope
Through the what.

04:50.12
Leezus
The academy awards kind of stuff is my forte and it's so weird. Oh yeah, absolutely um, but ampus the academy of motion picture arts and sciences. Ah, they are the Oscars run on Abc which is owned by Disney like 70% of all media production in the United States by the way.

04:50.40
thatsdope
Yeah I definitely want to ask you a ton about that for sure.

05:09.50
Leezus
Ah, and they have an incredible pressure put on them to nominate Disney's movies and obviously Disney is increasing the likelihood of that by buying everything in sight. But there was a thing a few years ago after I think it was the year after moonlight won best picture which.

05:23.39
thatsdope
Yeah I definitely want to talk about that situation because I think about that all the time.

05:25.14
Leezus
You know, incredible choice that was great then and as stood the chance of time I do too. It's it's like ah it's a very good so I watch kill Bill when I'm feeling really down and I don't feel like I can do anything and but it just gives me this like you know you can you can come back from the worst thing possible and still you know.

05:37.37
thatsdope
Ah.

05:43.64
Leezus
Stomp on next until you get to get to where you need to be. But yeah, it's I don't know it's It's weird. But I just I guess it's because I like Kung fu movies. But you know it just always always hits the spot. Oh yeah, since I was a kid.

05:43.71
thatsdope
I there we go. That's a good 1 right there I got. Really I didn't know that about you like I'm learning new things. Yeah like that's pretty cool like like ah because I me for me I always think with kill bill I think about kill bill quite a bit you know like moving your big toe to getting everything that you you want right? like you a revenge and you know going going from. Vegetable to Bam and like just off a sheer willpower like I think about that especially like these days I feel like everybody is like out of it. Everybody's tired everybody I feel bad for everybody I feel like the world. Whole world has a fog going on with it. You know? yeah.

06:15.33
Leezus
And.

06:24.65
Leezus
Yeah, oh yeah, and I I think that one for me I was talking to somebody about this the other day. Um I bet it's true for any kind of nerd and I obviously I use the word nerd to just mean very passionate about a specific thing.

06:35.24
thatsdope
Yeah.

06:38.57
Leezus
And for film nerds especially guys. There's there's a real cycle right of like 16 to 20 You're getting into movies and so it has to be ultra violent has to be super dark. It has to be super gritty and then you get a little older and you're like well no, it just has to be arthouse it has to be about something important or made by someone important or you know, really.

06:46.93
thatsdope
Yeah.

06:57.66
Leezus
Dodgy and feeling like you're taking your medicine and about four or five years ago I started to realize like now that's really just an immature way of looking at things right? The whole point is ah Roger Ebert had this great line of um, he'd given a 4 star review to dumb and dumber when it came out which was his his you know a plus equivalent.

07:12.79
thatsdope
4 out of 5 right? yeah or 4 or 4 Oh that's really cool. Okay.

07:16.99
Leezus
No no out of 4 yeah, and um, yeah, and ah and people were like giving him flak for it and he said look it is not dumb and dumber's job to be and he named whatever heavy drama came out that year. Um, it is dumb and dumber's job to tell the story that dumb and dumber is trying to tell and it fulfilled that function perfectly. And then he also like really to rub it in their face did like a serious deconstruction of the scene where they tricked that kid into um they sell him a dead paraickeet and he's blind and so so so he does this great like like it's it's like he's writinging about you know the bicycle thieves or umbrellas of Sherbourg but he's writing about a dumb and dumber and it was just. I love that guy and he he was not afraid to do a fuck you when anyone put their nose too high in the air because that's not what it's about. Yeah.

07:52.69
thatsdope
And and that's important. Yeah I feel like so many people are like if it's not like the most Highfalutin thing of all time you know and if is it's just constantly not the most highfa fluten thing of all time is not good. Ah, and again I think that's a bummer because there's so many things in between um.

08:01.77
Leezus
Um, yeah.

08:11.69
thatsdope
Like what was the movie I just saw on a plane. Um I just saw um I Also that's where I see most my movies because I don't have any worlds to go I did I know I know like I I know because us.

08:23.33
Leezus
It's okay I make it for the audience I'm making the face that I assume Christopher Nolan makes when he sees people watch his movies on phones on the subway just sort of reach through this computer.

08:30.88
thatsdope
You know a me got in trouble for that I watched ah gravity on a plane I watched I know I'm sorry I watched I I was was a um Pocahonas movie. Um, no, not Pocahonas but like go the blue people. Um.

08:45.10
Leezus
The new world. Oh it is good I think you mean Fern Gully ah Fern Gully three also known as avatar 2 Yeah.

08:48.53
thatsdope
Um, atar there we go there. We go I wish right? Um I actually you talking about avatar one. Um I watch on a phone. Um, yeah I'm bad at this like I'm trying I want to go see Oppenheimer in 70 millimeers. So I'm going to make everyone proud.

08:56.93
Leezus
Oh yeah.

09:06.71
Leezus
Ah, yeah I would I would highly recommend the biggest loudest option possible for Oppenheimer. Um, and you know it is not for me to say this and that right I do think that like it is a medium that's designed to be seen in public. It is a medium that is both. Both in terms of the projection and like the distribution of it. You want a big big screen so you can absorb all of this information a lot more easily than in you know, just even just a Tv at home and then it's it's an art form that is not like television. There's not commercial breaks and so to me and I hope this doesn't come off as gate. Gate to keepery but you know whatever, um, it is not a great way to watch a movie especially when you haven't seen before to be pausing every 5 minutes to go to the bathroom or to be on your phone the whole time and that is I'm saying that because I you know will miss a movie I love I'll be missing half of it because I'm texting or you know? yeah.

09:50.33
thatsdope
Yeah.

09:58.16
thatsdope
Yeah I try to show my mom everything everywhere all at once like a month ago ah but she was on a phone call half the time she was like just keep going just keep going I'm like oh no I was really scared to show my mom.

10:05.94
Leezus
It.

10:11.48
Leezus
O.

10:11.68
thatsdope
Like I was I don't think she could have handle I feel like Thank God She missed like some of those scenes like the deal does scene. But but you know but at same time I'm just sad that she missed the whole movie I Like no it is about but also I think like this sort of dimensional thing like sort of.

10:17.91
Leezus
Good, Nice. Nice word play there.

10:28.55
thatsdope
1 over her head anyways and maybe I should have warmed her up with like more I guess I don't know what type of movies you know movies about dimensional types I guess I don't know but I agree with you. Although yeah I guess usually like I like to be like in a spot where like I don't have anywhere to be.

10:29.00
Leezus
In it.

10:45.77
thatsdope
And like I can focus on this movie. Although like I keep getting distracted like I'm trying to multitask. Um I'm doing such a bad job. But I'm trying to make people proud by watching more movies I watch Florida project like 2 nights ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like I've been told a year ago to go watch that and I finally made it happen although that.

10:50.24
Leezus
A.

10:58.53
Leezus
Ah, hey that's a good one.

11:04.47
thatsdope
Movie Story bothered me because it's just like I Just it's so hard for me to see people make bad decisions constantly over and over again and it's just like I but you're young and dumb. What can I say? yeah.

11:15.23
Leezus
Yeah I've been at this job I'm in now I'm you know I'm working with people who are hey I mean we're 31 but like they're significantly younger than us and it's like like I had a oh I actually it was last september I went to see the the chicks formerly known as the dixie chicks in a.

11:20.45
thatsdope
Hey he oh yeah.

11:33.38
thatsdope
They change your name. Also Wow I Guess they don't want to be confederate adjacent I guess.

11:34.36
Leezus
Red rocks in um, Colorado yeah, they did a couple years ago yeah yeah and you know as ah as a lover of of like language in terms of just like writing and sonics and stuff. Um. the the name the chicks is a very bad name for a band and the name. The dixie chicks sound. It's it brought a great sound to it. The word sounds good but like it's just it's we're in a we're in a time when that would just distract people and it's a shame because their whole thing was well and and also just like.

11:56.16
thatsdope
Um I was.

12:01.21
thatsdope
Um, yeah is against that right.

12:06.95
Leezus
They did a country pop album but like the songs are incredibly deep and potent but they just sound like Cotton candy and you know they kept doing stuff like that. But I was there and you know I ah got to have this incredible experience. Um, we can cut this out if this isn't supposed to be included I did mushrooms for the first time.

12:20.32
thatsdope
Um, a wow day for sure I I That's I mean for me, it's cool as long as it's cool with you like I could take it out you want. But um, how was it? yeah.

12:21.93
Leezus
And I was with 2 of our high school classmates that I will tell you after so I don't out them.

12:32.55
Leezus
Oh it was great. It was the first time in my life that I'd actually been to a show where I knew every word of every song and it was just a really great experience. Oh yes, it's but I mean it's I have a lot of ah tex ona yeah and they're all from West Texas which is where my family hill's from and it's a place full of people who.

12:39.10
thatsdope
Wow Also to hear your fan. That's interesting I Guess grew up with it right? Yeah, ah.

12:51.68
Leezus
Used to live in a world where you know your actions were everything and I think it is a place that has really been reversed where you really have to be virtue signaling in the conservative direction you know, but ah the reason I bring it up is because um I was telling people at work at lunch. You know that.

13:02.32
thatsdope
Ah.

13:10.35
Leezus
Week after I got back or something about how great it was and I said and you know they made some jokes about kind of how they were the first musicians to really get canceled in the modern age and and so this young person who works with me. She's like 24 she said oh well, what happened and I told the whole story which sparknote's version is.

13:11.10
thatsdope
Um, ah.

13:25.76
Leezus
They were performing in London the week after we invaded Iraq illegally and under false pretenses by the way and she's all all they said Natalie mains the lead singer said well we we know it's a weird time to be probably seeing some americans perform I just want you to know that we're ashamed the presidents from Texas referring to to good old w and.

13:29.26
thatsdope
Oh ah, yeah.

13:42.84
thatsdope
Ah, ah, Wow dang.

13:44.39
Leezus
It got so bad that um, you know there's a documentary about it called shut up and sing and you know they had death threats. They completely completely killed their careers and they scraped together all the money that they had basically and they recorded one last album and they won 7 Grammys including album of the year a couple years later which was great but I said all that and the girl just goes.

13:55.96
thatsdope
Wow.

14:03.37
Leezus
That's all they did and I was like yeah she's right? That's nothing.

14:03.48
thatsdope
Your Ivy is like yeah you're not wrong. You're like Wow I thought we were more sensitive now than then but maybe you're right? Yeah, that's a truth point. Wow you I mean shit man you want to get into some politics like fuck. Yeah I'll get into it like.

14:14.91
Leezus
It's a moving target you know.

14:21.55
Leezus
Yeah.

14:23.30
thatsdope
Because for me I Guess my biggest thing is like I'm wondering like what do conservatives want you know like what? what? what are they trying to like help but like I will I'll be fine with them if they were like oh we want to focus on this. You know, let's focus on our homeless Veterans Dope Let's go do that You know focus like on something that's positive right.

14:38.20
Leezus
A.

14:42.36
thatsdope
You would think that they'd be like about the the nature you know we all want to be you know back to primordial man or whatever I guess you know they don't want to protect it. Yeah, you know yeah is that you know is like I was even just thinking like um because I try to read the bible like daily like trying to.

14:48.82
Leezus
Um, yeah, Caveman and cavewoman not Caveman and caveman.

15:01.34
thatsdope
Keep some sembance of being good. Um, and you know like I'm mad because like they stuck they stick so much against like anti lgp lg b t but but but you know all that right? But it's like the bible didn't even say anything really that much about it. You know it's like talking about you know the whole thing about sodom and gomorra is like hey. These people in this city are trying to to gang gang grape you know, like like visitors you know, like versus anything else. But we're stuck like on like this little thing I guess it makes me mad because like these people call themselves Christian or just like front user evidence against them right? I'm trying to see like what.

15:26.00
Leezus
A.

15:35.86
Leezus
Yeah.

15:39.79
thatsdope
Is it that we can work on what is it that you know like get these people out of this cult mindset of just we just got to go against whatever you say the other party says right? Um I don't know I'm just I'm just so disappointed that is like what is it. That's like even like beneficial that they're like looking for and like it sort of bumps you out that like it's becoming more of a worldwide thing I hear Nazis come Back. Ah are we screwed lee.

16:03.33
Leezus
Um, yeah.

16:09.73
Leezus
Um, I mean I'm gonna answer both your questions and it'll take a bit but I I do have an answer to that. Ah, ah so I don't think that the people who say these things and make these decisions believe in anything a lot. No no, no, they are I don't think that Mitch Mcconnell

16:12.78
thatsdope
Feel free. Okay.

16:21.19
thatsdope
Are necessarily malicious. Oh oh yeah, ah distractions. Yeah.

16:26.68
Leezus
Cares about abortion I don't think he cares about unborn children I don't think Ted Cruz cares about the threat to marriage certainly not because he let true fact, look it up. Donald Trump called his wife uglier than a dog on national tv and did social media and he still sucked his dick on national tv just because yeah and I mean look what happened it's. So it goes back to Nixon. Um not ah, independent of the the watergate stuff I'm sure you've and we're getting into conspiracy theory territory. Its right guys. It's going to be crunchy. It's going to be great. Um, so you know he came up with this idea of the southern strategy which was L B J One of the.

16:47.65
thatsdope
Ah, yeah.

16:51.58
thatsdope
Feel free isn't what is what I live for on this podcast.

17:04.92
Leezus
He's my favorite president but I will admit this one of the main reasons he had for fighting so hard for the equal rights amendment was because he knew that if he got it passed then black voters would vote Democrat and I mean in fairness that's what you're going to do right? it's.

17:13.82
thatsdope
A thats you know, like because for me I'm like everyone like you says you have to be like altruistic and I'm just like no one's altruistic. You know is like is like look if you do a good thing for like a reason cool like everyone's like you didn't do it because you love black people.

17:22.35
Leezus
Um, yeah.

17:26.74
Leezus
A.

17:33.16
thatsdope
You know I'm just like whatever y'all Anyways, keep going.

17:33.55
Leezus
Why and whatever you can't win. Yeah, um, so so all that to say like it. It is Nixon's response to that two or four years later after he was in office was this thing called this Southern Southern Strategy and the tldr on it is ah if we can convince the. Both the overt and covert racists across America that democrat equals black and then we tie in all these other causes. That's a huge voting bloc and then you combine that with ah you know the mass incarceration of black americans for super tiny drug crimes and what does that mean, right? You're convicted of a felony. You can't vote again.

18:06.16
thatsdope
It can't vote.

18:10.52
Leezus
And you're a kid selling crack to feed your fucking family and you can't vote for the rest of your life. Ah, but you can still serve in the military or be drafted if they chose to draft by the way but all that to say like I think that the people who are God This is tricky because I I do not think the illuminati is a real thing. But I think the military-industrial complex is a real thing and I do think that we live in a society where the incredibly rich people are not the loud ones. They're the ones that we don't know about and they're the ones that not pick the president any of that stuff but they do have an agenda and they do it in various various ways and the best recent example is.

18:30.72
thatsdope
Um, and.

18:37.75
thatsdope
Um, ah.

18:46.99
Leezus
There's a really good limited series that came out a few months ago on Amazon prime. It's a documentary called shiny happy people and it's about the dugger family which were those like 20 kid reality show Christian people but it really is about the movement that they belong to and if you.

18:51.33
thatsdope
Oh o.

19:01.37
Leezus
They're they're all based in Arkansas and the core tenet of the movement is this thing called the Umbrella Of Authority so the the father runs the house. The wife is his right hand woman and is not able to question him and every female child lives under that umbrella until they get married and are passed to another man who believes in the same thing. What does that mean? Well, you're getting homeschooled so you don't even have the capacity to understand that you don't know all of these things or that you're learning completely false things you don't have these skills to break away. Even if you do somehow realize it. You don't know how to get a job. You don't know how money works you literally don't know how currency works um all this stuff and and it. It comines perfectly with Sarah Huckabee Sanders who is really just she is killing the game as far as being a monstrous. Yeah you know republican leader right now as the governor of Arkansas she repealed 2 over a century old child labor laws. So now it is legal for. Twelve year olds to with parental permission work and at night shifts and slaughterhouses and it is legal for kids who are already working a job in school to petition ah to work a second job while they're in school and by that I mean k twelve I don't mean college. So what does all that say right? it says. You have built a system and what I think is interesting about this example, right is that this is Arkansas and and specifically with this stuff. We're talking about. We're only talking about whites manipulating whites and all this stuff and the reason I bring it up is because ah if you if you deliberately allow your? um.

20:31.56
Leezus
State to be last in education then it suddenly does not become important to people who aren't getting education to get it or to not even know that it's a real thing or they think they can get it at home. But really what they're getting is brainwashing and then you also have a society that doesn't believe in contraception and that has ah.

20:38.85
thatsdope
Um.

20:49.83
Leezus
Ah, thing rooted in the bible. Um, they call it the quiver full idea but it was a line. Um I think god said to Abraham about ah let Israel's quiver be ah, full to bursting something like that and basically it's the idea you got to have as many kids as you can as often as you can because then you have the state. So what does this mean. You have a replicating workforce that is completely unable to question anything that you do and now you can have them working for you for pennies on the dollar at twelve years old and then you you add everything else into that and so the the answer to the first question is. These people are not true. Believers. They are working for someone or really working for themselves and they just don't care about the consequences of their actions like the reason you demonize abortion is because it's an easy thing to point to It's an easy boogieman same thing with lgbt people specifically trans people right? There's not been a single documented case in the history of the United States of a trans person attacking a child in a bathroom but it's a perfect boogie man for some fucking moron shit kicker in East Texas who you know doesn't even necessarily watch Fox News because their Tv probably didn't work but it's like well I've never seen that before and I don't like it and then one person of theirs own friend of theirs who does watch Tv is like oh well yeah, you know that they go around and do this and like oh well yeah, we're.

21:44.18
thatsdope
Ah.

21:53.48
thatsdope
And.

22:02.10
Leezus
Were never going to allow that and then ah I think in immigrants I mean we're seeing the same thing right now. Ah fun stacked.

22:04.31
thatsdope
Yeah, it it horribly hurts me what Abbott's doing about like ah like migrants migrants and ah immigrants and refugees it just like the spiked. Um, what is it the barbed wire um things in the wire like that's just so.

22:16.20
Leezus
Um, yeah.

22:22.17
thatsdope
Horrible.

22:23.25
Leezus
Yeah, and the the Houston chronicle which by the way support your local newspaper. You don't have to read it but buy a subscription It's worth it. We need journalism but ah, they you know did they were the ones who broke that story and they had the videos of people pushing these migrants with children on their backs back into the wire and. Greg Abbott sued them not to take the story down but just to take the video down because he knows that if you show that to enough. Well-meaning um you know suburb kind of not really conservative just house white housewives who don't really think about this stuff if you show them that image enough they will break. Um. Same thing with the grab them by the pussy video if the dems had actually worked a lot harder with that I think and really just run it every hour on the hour every station in America I think that even with all of the ah polite word mishagos on both sides it it would have gone a different way and we would be in a different. Yeah.

23:00.90
thatsdope
And then there.

23:13.27
thatsdope
It bones me out it bus me out how weak um Democrats are like I can't stop thinking about super Tuesday like the moment I feel like everyone just stop caring about politics again, you know.

23:27.70
Leezus
Yeah, every four years because and this is a thing I'm very much complicit in right? I'm a white dude I'm doing. Okay, yeah, I'm gay but like I I live in Austin so and even if I lived in Dallas still it'd be fine to an extent. Um, but like. So it's easy for me to forget it in between but the most important and impactful election on everyday life in America is happening in the state legislature and it's real That's where this scary stuff like repealing child labor laws like ah you know in or yeah, lowering the draft age to 16 which is up in a couple states right now and they're just getting up away with crazy stuff because Cnn.

23:46.10
thatsdope
Are the.

24:01.89
Leezus
Once to cover Cardi B throwing a water bottle or a mic at somebody I didn't really follow the story because I was so mad that they were only covering it.

24:04.48
thatsdope
Um, yeah, yeah for real I mean like just's so many bullshit stories that are going on and it's just sort of like when you have both sides of what happened I mean I heard even that Cardi B thing she told people to you know, spray her with water because it was high. You know we don't have the full story people are just stoking fears or anger at people that are easy to sttoke fear and Anger against um, ah yeah, and honestly like you're very right. It's like we are getting like very distracted from the issues like it it it it really chafes me honestly like just thinking like how.

24:21.57
Leezus
Yeah.

24:30.74
Leezus
Um, yeah.

24:40.18
thatsdope
Me things we need to be fixing or just like at least starting to talk about. It's crazy to me that people are still climbing the denying climate change and is this like don't you feel this don't you not see at least even at the very worst you don't want to help the the Earth You know you? we don't think we can change anything.

24:50.15
Leezus
Um, yeah.

24:55.32
Leezus
Which by the way is is a Christian Tenet just like anything else. Yeah, it's in.

24:58.79
thatsdope
Ah I'm saying I I'm like didn't aren't we told to like take care of the earth you know, like like hell like we needt have cars until one hundred years ago like are you saying we can't innovate better. You know it's like didn't we watch Jetsons talking about flying cars and all that shit.

25:03.80
Leezus
Um, yep.

25:15.67
Leezus
Um, yeah.

25:16.50
thatsdope
Ah, you you just we're just okay, we just allow. Let's keep having the same but but but but you know big giant trucks I guess right I don't know I'm just so disappointed.

25:24.70
Leezus
It's I mean I like to anytime I see one of those by the way that tears by I Love to roll down my window and just shout your penis is so big. It's so big. Um, yeah, but in it. Ah yeah, that's true.

25:33.27
thatsdope
Ah, stay safe also out there because Texas got guns.

25:39.14
Leezus
Um, but ah, the the big question you asked are we screwed. Ah, the thing I find helps with that because specifically with the climate I get in that headspace a lot of like um, what is what is the point of anything I'm doing because we're all going to get vaporized in the next twenty years I certainly don't know that I want to have like a kid or whatever like all that stuff. Um, but the way I kind of think about it is ah this there's you know this ideal of ah, dialectical thinking which is the idea that you can hold 2 things as true at once. So I kind of think of it as layers of reality and that sounds hippy dippy but I don't think it actually is in practice really. You have the world. We're in now where it's a dumpster fire almost literally actually not almost because it was a 109 today at one point and I want to die? Um, ah by the way I hope you're happy I turned my Ac off because it is so loud because it's blowing all the time. So if I pass out at any point it's not from being overcome with emotion.

26:18.85
thatsdope
Ah, wow. Yeah.

26:33.87
thatsdope
Ah I appreciate you dang you know like I mean you need turn back on feel free I mean also late there we go good. Yeah I got mine but also in California so it's not I know hey I but look first off.

26:35.26
Leezus
A meat stroke. Yeah yeah, now I've got the ah good old overhead fan going nonstop. Yeah, ah.

26:49.20
thatsdope
Actually like the heat so you won't hear me complain and when it's cold. You will hear me bitch and moan. But you know don't ah than yeah, Okay, yeah, okay that you meant like ice caps and everything I was like oh we? Yeah, we are screwed but a big yeah continue with the layers. Yeah, like so the world.

26:50.76
Leezus
Well, nice to guess you won't have to worry about that for quite a while if ever well I just with the California thing but also that you know? Yeah yeah. You have that it's ah it's awful like what is anything we do matter. But then you have this thing of if I have the values that any individual has or whatever I have to choose to accept that and then also operate in a world where maybe the worst thing doesn't happen and. I think you have to kind of choose to apply these different layers at different times. You know it's kind of like code switching but on an individual philosophical level. It's like what is going to be the most functional thing for me in this moment. Um, and yeah you you mentioned that you're ah you know, reading the bible because you want to be a good person I'm a.

27:37.47
thatsdope
Um, interesting.

27:44.62
Leezus
I Won't say practicing because I mainly just say it to be cool at parties and it it actually got I got called on it recently and it was really embarrassing. But I I mostly identify as a buddhist here's my um Tibetan singing bowl which yeah I've I've done a couple of stints in various ah facilities and things that really caused me to in.

27:46.84
thatsdope
Oh dad at a party. Oh wow.

28:02.75
Leezus
To learn how to be introspective in a positive way and now I just am on this kind of good humanist kick that I really love of like it is so stupid to ever believe No matter how smart you are or that you think you are that you know everything and that everything that you believe is right ergo. You've got to be you've got to read? you've got to talk you've got to listen.

28:15.10
thatsdope
Yes. Um, yeah.

28:22.12
Leezus
Um, you just got to learn and that's really all I know right? like the 2 things I know about life are I want to learn everything that I can and I want to see as much of the planet. But as I can before I die those are the 2 things that I am sure about and it's pretty good.

28:29.34
thatsdope
I like that? yeah yeah I like that because I mean 1 those are things you can control too. So so like that's what I think life is right? It's like at least to a point you're happy right? You can do whatever range you want but at the same time. Yeah, why not keep taking and there's so many things that keep on. Changing about the world and I really actually liked all this multiverse talk that we've been having you know with movies like ah everywhere everything all at once. Um, you know like I constantly think about like just like the different paths of life that like I could have been on. You know like I was supposed to be a doctor in a I have dreads.

28:53.77
Leezus
Damn it.

29:04.28
Leezus
Yeah, well let's put quotes on that supposed to be.

29:08.60
thatsdope
The post to be of at least that's what yeah you right? Actually you were. You're very right like whereas it' like what am I supposed to be right? Yeah I guess because I I think about like ah for sure like my parents pushing me to do that right? And actually there's something I did want to do like it like I wasn't against it I just watched a Nick recently.

29:14.23
Leezus
Is that shame language. Dude yeah.

29:27.82
Leezus
Good show.

29:28.63
thatsdope
Ah, yeah, like I was season one and I really enjoyed it I'm like one I'm glad that I like I was born here like I keep thinking like what if I was born in 1900 you know, like or born in Nigeria you know like things would be very different. Um because you know both my parents were from Nigeria and like they were the only ones in their families.

29:37.13
Leezus
Um, yeah.

29:47.45
thatsdope
You know, dad's first out of 8 mom's 12 out 13 and they're the only ones to have come here actually or at least first um and then I don't know like I at least I could have been a doctor right? like there's so many other ways of life that I could have been on and at least I really enjoy like what I'm doing right now you know. I like yeah, good good like actually yeah I did one I see like yeah, how are you like I I was actually thinking of like I haven't you know you do so like I like everything you've been saying like it sounds also very centered. You know, like in like just as you said like I think like that's.

30:07.68
Leezus
Um, yes, name took a long time but I'm yeah.

30:20.90
Leezus
Um, yeah.

30:24.80
thatsdope
Like sort of like a meaning of life the sort of like a humanist like do the best you can in your world but then also allow for a change in growth to happen too right.

30:28.73
Leezus
E.

30:34.41
Leezus
Yeah, there's an incredibly destructive version of self-improvement culture right? It is you know I have to you know I have to be this shape so I can do these things or I have to have this level of income to do these things and that's not what it really is about to me. It is like my core philosophy is exactly what you were just talking about.

30:38.20
thatsdope
Are.

30:44.51
thatsdope
Is.

30:53.70
Leezus
I Just have to make myself the best person I can be and live according to my values which I'm still kind of figuring out. But ah, we're working on it. Um, but then if I do that then naturally I will you know bleed those values out and you know put them into my work into my relationships into my community.

30:56.68
thatsdope
Um, you're right.

31:09.87
Leezus
And you know churtles all the way down it continues it continues it continues. Um, it's a great idea I don't know if it's going to happen and I certainly don't know that I'm willing to do anything more active than that as far as improving the world around me. Although that's not true because I I work in philanthropy now. So I'm ah.

31:17.19
thatsdope
Um, yeah, ah oh.

31:26.00
Leezus
On the fundraising team for a medical school in Austin and it's it's actually funny that you were talking about the you know supposed to be a doctor thing is I do a lot of our scholarship stuff. So basically connecting scholarship recipients with the people who pay for those scholarships and it's well it's incredibly rewarding because.

31:26.68
thatsdope
Ok.

31:39.80
thatsdope
Oh wow.

31:45.38
Leezus
I always had this thing and this is so ah I think it's it's more common than we would think but I would get these tensed up things of like oh this old fogie who's like oh eighty years old and you know was a doctor and hasn't you know, practiced in 20 years is about to have a talk with this. You know. Black woman who's 24 and is hoping to learn about germatology and I'm like I don't know what's going to happen here. It's and almost almost exclusively. They find commonalities so quickly because I think when you have to when you are in a role or pursuing a role that takes that much to get there right? like.

32:04.50
thatsdope
I was actually about to say is like how does that usually go.

32:21.70
Leezus
It's not just the 4 years of med school. It's the three years of residency after where you're making pennies on the dollar. So it's a weird thing to think of like oh well as soon as a doctor gets out. You know it's no they aren't they make no income for 3 years and then they have to either join a hospital and be the bottom rung of that situation or they have to start their own practice and like any small business not make a profit for a year and a half but

32:22.97
thatsdope
Um, there cheesed.

32:40.78
Leezus
It is so fascinating that like anytime I've had that tens step thing. Those are the um, those are the conversations that go the best like it is a real ah restorer in my faith and humanity in that a lot of people are capable of finding commonalities rather than differences. When they're put in the right situation I just think ah the right and Rupert Murdoch who unfortunately may be may go down as like the most brilliant business man of the back half of the Twentieth century. Um, because he just he's the Fox News guy and and yeah, just like that idea of making some words just trigger words that shouldn't be.

33:09.31
thatsdope
Yeah.

33:19.60
Leezus
Like the idea that if you say the word black in a room to describe a black person white people on the left tense up because they're afraid that they were gonna say or someone else is saying the wrong thing and white people on the right tense up because they're like well then I'm I I'm about to get called out or whatever. There's so much fragility on all sides and it it. It is very um.

33:20.81
thatsdope
Black. Yeah, ah yeah, they call racist.

33:31.10
thatsdope
Yeah, like lean in yes.

33:38.90
Leezus
Heartening to to see instances when that is not the case and when people can actually engage with each other.

33:39.18
thatsdope
Yeah that's really dope. You know, like actually that's as super cool one that you're doing that and then two. Ah yeah to also hear that because I was thinking I was like does that work out do people but she like you know also I constantly worry about like the new generation. You know like i. I worry about them, especially like over the pandemic and like the isolation and in Tiktok being like their main sort of outlet of sorts. You know? And yeah I do see like the good things of Tiktok but also like uh-oh like this is is this is going badly. You know, um, it's cringy. Ah, but.

34:12.62
Leezus
A.

34:16.70
thatsdope
You know at the same time. Yeah like I am happy to hear that there is like some sort of like balance like for you know, like the generations like meeting I think because also that's something I was thinking about too is like I feel like. The kids are also isolated from like the rest of us like they don't have like old cartoons and old movies that they can watch sort of easily. You know we have like Tom and Jerry and flintstones we weren't born to 60 s but at least we had that. But yeah, 40 s wow shit man but ah in the in the nineteen hundreds. Um.

34:38.17
Leezus
In 40 s and sub of those yeah in yeah.

34:48.42
thatsdope
But you know I like do kids today like even have that like they have like a new version of looney tunes but is like what about like the old stuff and like we're sort of worried about oh no is the old stuff too violent and I I sort of feel that's a bummer.

35:01.15
Leezus
Yeah, um I think it it's and I'm not talking about you I'm talking about the discourse I think there's a lot of like inherently disingenuous conversations about stuff like that. So I love Looney Tunes cartoons I loved them as a kid and.

35:04.52
thatsdope
Um, yeah.

35:11.62
thatsdope
Um.

35:15.51
thatsdope
Oh oh yeah.

35:15.61
Leezus
Ah, fun fact. They are actually all on Hbo Max or I guess now it's just called max and when I say all I mean they have done a very intelligent job of pruning out some stuff that no one needs to see anymore. But yeah, oh it is and like like as a kid Peter Pan was one of my favorite Disney movies and I watched that in like 2008 I remember and was so horrified.

35:22.30
thatsdope
Um, which is fair. Yeah like I get take. Ah.

35:34.63
Leezus
Like there's this, There's a song in that. That's just basically implying that the reason Native Americans are red-skinned is because they're all drunk and I was like how is this a thing man and but that's such a good guiding light because I think people act like oh they're coming for all the culture that we loved and I do think that there is a a real. Um.

35:40.67
thatsdope
Ah, oh no.

35:52.59
Leezus
Element of that actually on the progressive wing of overcorrecting but I think for almost every case that I can think of it is very obvious when you see a thing that is old and you think there's no need that this like yeah um, there's ah, a surprising. No one. There's a great film example that I'll use when I I was not a film major I.

35:55.51
thatsdope
Um.

36:01.52
thatsdope
Yeah.

36:11.45
Leezus
Considered it. But the people I was in classes with I just they all thought like oh I'm getting a film degree ergo I'm going to be Steven Spielberg and I'm like you're fucking idiot like they're just not out the threat and that's not why I was there I was just there because I love again I love to learn and I never wanted to be a director or filmmaker. Whatever but um.

36:17.89
thatsdope
Yeah I like chill out. Yes, you like exactly. Ah.

36:26.62
Leezus
We watched this movie as far to the curriculum and it was It was a class called the history of the motion picture. So it makes sense that we watched ah inarguably in my opinion. So I guess still semi arguably this movie called Birth of a nation which is when it comes to a technical aspect like come come for me snowflakes it is It is.

36:35.48
thatsdope
Yes.

36:45.21
Leezus
It is upsetting how brilliantly made it is because everything else is offensive not offensive is way too like everything else is horrifying and disgusting and um, but the professor. Oh and for some more context. Ah the the plot of the movie is an adaptation of a novel called the klansman with a k wasn't written by spike Lee so I think you can guess what it's about.

36:51.28
thatsdope
Ah.

37:04.81
Leezus
But ah, the the core premise is basically that like in the in the post-civil war era when blacks are given voting rights. Ah the ah like the state house of representatives or whatever in I believe it takes place in Virginia is immediately overrun with all these ridiculously horrifying stereotypes. Most of them who look exactly like ah Samu L Jackson's character in Django and chained like they all have the snowball hair. It's awful. Um, so cryinggainst fashion number 1 but seriously and then you know the the over the course of the film the ku klux klan basically is created and saves the day and it's so horrifying. But.

37:25.32
thatsdope
Oh boy, Oh boy.

37:42.97
Leezus
It has editing techniques that are still used like de rigueur every day by every kind of every level of filmmaker every level of television maker and it is if you looked at the things that were coming out around it and even just a year or two after it. It is legitimately probably 20 years ahead of its time and its technical vision but it is 1 of the most offensive things I've ever seen. And the professor who taught this class. Um, she's a brilliant woman I can't remember her first name her last name's frick. She does a lot of film preservation work. Um, but she she gave a great lecture and was like look this is gonna shock and horrify you and it should and we're watching it for that and for this because you don't you don't. Shy away from something that makes you uncomfortable. You don't put it under the rug you read it. The idea that ah you can't gain anything from you know the adventures of Huck Finn because it uses the n-word it was written and takes place in the 1870 s how is that a shock or when um, when Django and chain which I know there's a lot of.

38:32.53
thatsdope
Yes I know.

38:40.43
Leezus
Issues there and most of them I genuinely don't have the ah it's not my conversation to have but 1 of the most ridiculous things was why are they saying the n-word all the time. It's ah it's on plantations. Dude it's eighteen thirty they're not going to be like yes oh white critics and it's just like.

38:43.72
thatsdope
And.

38:51.70
thatsdope
People said that as.

38:57.93
Leezus
And there's a lot of that and I've I've heard this from a lot of ah black friends both irl and on film Twitter who will say like it really infuriates me when ah you know a white person overcorrects and tries well tries to protect you and it's like I don't need you? Yeah yeah, brilliant brilliant movie.

39:06.18
thatsdope
Gets mad. Yes, is that oh name say what tropic thunder there you know is thiser like y'all like um, like unless we're mad about it. Yeah, like unless we're mad about it. It like what we're mad listen to us you know and then you know rally a binder cause but don't don't be like just as you said like you know, saying black. And like oh my God and is like yeah it's like we didn't say that black is a bad word. The nord's a bad word. What it.

39:25.42
Leezus
Um, yeah, who yeah.

39:32.50
Leezus
Yeah, there's that great community joke where um Shirley is doing the like very passive aggressives Christmas thing for everyone and she she goes. Ah oh an Annie I didn't know you were a jew and she can't decide if she should switch and she just goes you so you could say jewish but it's so good.

39:40.40
thatsdope
Um, if.

39:47.16
thatsdope
I.

39:51.72
Leezus
And that of course how brilliant that that show is that that linus and the the like oppressive christianity is coming from a black woman like a brilliant show.

39:55.14
thatsdope
Yeah, ah I there was like a sort of genuine at least to me like a sort of genuine way that we addressed race and just sort of diversity honestly and it felt nice to me like in the 90 s and two thousand s and I think in the 2010 s is like oh.

40:12.11
Leezus
Um, yeah, yeah.

40:13.76
thatsdope
But you know this and then because we're like ah the whole time like even sort of now like like actually they absolutely right? all right now like it. It sort of bumps me out but I can't wait till we get that balance backwards like it's okay, y'all other groups exist and it's okay to address them. You know like let's just.

40:18.34
Leezus
Not sort of absolutely.

40:33.64
thatsdope
When they say hey please don't do this thing. We listen to them whoa what a concept but um, yeah, and like I was just thinking I was like I so um I was actually literally thinking about this today I love what you said about birth of a nation because actually I haven't seen it I would like to see it so that way I could just be like.

40:35.42
Leezus
Any.

40:53.22
thatsdope
Here's my objective thoughts about it and it's really cool that she even said what you said about like the movie making techniques about it. But I guess for me is like I I sort of wish that we would get to a point of like we can see bad things and we could just be like objectively like okay this isn't good for this reason and my emotional state. You know, maybe it might be like of way about the movie but like it's not like all the way permanently perturbed I guess right? like we can wrestle with hard hitting topics without constantly feeling need to be shielded from it right? Um, you know because this shit happened like it is 1 thing of this shit like didn't like even if it didn't happen.

41:13.32
Leezus
Um, yeah.

41:22.30
Leezus
Um, me yeah.

41:30.24
thatsdope
I Think it's important that we sort of like wrestle with ethical values that way we can become a better group versus like oh my God that's just too shocking I can't ah you know and then we just we don't want to talk about it and then it comes back. It comes back worse than before right.

41:47.19
Leezus
Yeah, and I think us being unwilling to ah I think that the left sanitizes history too. But we usually just use that term to talk about you know the confederacy or Neo-nazis or something. Um.

41:51.67
thatsdope
Um, yeah.

42:00.60
Leezus
I Think that there's a lot of it I Just think recently someone asked me what do you think is the most damaging thing that we we our generation will leave to our children and I said well provided that the Earth still exists. Um I I think it is cancel culture and what I meant by that then and what I mean about it right now. So.

42:09.49
thatsdope
Um.

42:14.95
thatsdope
Um, and then.

42:19.10
Leezus
Donald Trump being caught not being caught Donald Trump's actually assaulting women and then getting in trouble for it. That's not cancel culture that is consequences of actions. That's how it's gone since the beginning of consciousness right? That is not cancel culture. It's like how dare you you know, get mad at me for this thing that is a criminal act. Yeah.

42:23.73
thatsdope
The actual like right a criminal right.

42:34.21
thatsdope
Um, right.

42:36.11
Leezus
But cancel culture is real if people are not interacting with art ah discourse you know writing of any kind or whatever in a genuine way people I do think are trained by social media. Especially but really our culture as a whole I think has really absorbed it. It's about your take it is about I want to be the first one to have a take about why Barbie is offensive or why Oppenheimer is offensive both of which have happened in the past two weeks which is so stupid but whatever. Um, yeah, and like there was there was a woman I'm not going to say her name because I don't want to you know, give her flack and also I think she already has too much traffic.

42:57.25
thatsdope
Um.

43:00.10
thatsdope
Sounds stupid.

43:10.34
thatsdope
Um.

43:11.30
Leezus
Um, but she she wrote an incredibly disingenuous view review of the movie the whale which I think the whale has a lot of problems and I think people can have legitimate issues with it but 1 of the things she was saying was I just think it's so ridiculous that they couldn't cast a £600 actor to play that part I'm sorry this and that is so.

43:15.60
thatsdope
Um, and.

43:23.42
thatsdope
Yeah.

43:29.11
Leezus
Perfectly illuminative of you. Don't know what the fuck you're talking about in terms of just the medium you're speaking about because first of all no all yeahlthough there's acting and that's 1 thing but like first of all well I was just gonna say like it's it's even simpler than all of that. Ah.

43:31.92
thatsdope
1 acting? Yeah yeah, but also do you really want like a 6 and go ahead. Yes, sorry super obese person to.

43:44.97
Leezus
Well, yeah, exactly a tiny tiny studio like a 24 could not afford to insure a £600 actor like fun fact when they made iron man too. The reason that mickey rourke was in it is because he and robert downey jr did an oscar roundtable together in 2008 mickey roke was promoting the wrestler and robert downey jr was promoting his role in tropic thunder. Should've won the oscar fight me um, nad's kind of a joke. But I I mean it's also it's also a very good movie. But anyway, it's brilliant. Yeah.

44:05.63
thatsdope
Ah, yeah I love him Still I Still love that movie like and I think yeah so many people who are getting mad about it because of the surface level stuff is like yall it's please unless we get mad about it. Chill out.

44:18.26
Leezus
And again, that's that is purely people what you know whether they be white or any other race but I can guarantee it's almost all white people just like hearing oh Robert Downey Jr is in blackface that is not the plot of the movie if you watch the movie the joke of that is that Hollywood would rather.

44:32.10
thatsdope
But move.

44:38.27
Leezus
Bend over backwards and tie themselves into a pretzel and pay what is it like they even make a joke about it a $30000000 experimental surgery to temporarily re pigment him for his searing portrayal of Lincoln Osiris great fake name and and the joke is that hollywood would do anything rather than cast a black lead in a movie.

44:47.33
thatsdope
Ah, yes, oh actual.

44:56.70
Leezus
That is the joke and Robert Downey Jr gets it and the movie gets it and they have the brilliant ah great fake rapper name coming Al Pacino character Alpa Space Chino um ah who is who is there to poke holes in hollywood's like within the movie their you know their own backpadding and stuff and I just think it's so.

45:03.50
thatsdope
And.

45:09.90
thatsdope
Yeah.

45:14.56
Leezus
Another perfect example of like people aren't engaging with the thing before they judge it. They just want to be able to have a judgment or to be on the right side of what they think the judgment is so yeah, the whale thing is like you clearly don't even know the basics of any of this Oh wait. The reason I was bringing that up is that.

45:16.54
thatsdope
Here and.

45:30.50
Leezus
Micy Rourke was in that movie because of like a passing comment of would you do iron man too and mickey work's like yeah, do it then Marvel's like what the fuck are you doing we can'ture that guy. He's a he's a mess and there's a reason he hadn't made a movie in 20 years so Robert Downdy Junior had to pay the insurance premiums himself and they still barely got it across the finish line because even though I love Mickey Roke he was a wreck.

45:41.63
thatsdope
Wow a day.

45:49.23
Leezus
Um, yeah, he should. He should have won that Oscar for the wrestler he didn't and it's it's maybe the second biggest Oscars blow for me ever. Emotionally speaking and I just ah it it shouldn't be that shocking but Glenn close losing. Best actress a few years ago which without a doubt the greatest actress who have never won an Oscar.

45:55.96
thatsdope
Was number one.

46:07.44
thatsdope
I Thought she has yeah like never wow.

46:08.79
Leezus
But a lot of people assume that she has because she's so good. Exactly? yeah, um so she did this incredible movie called the wife. You know it's it's not like it's super mind boggling but the work is there and of course all these people who again have not done the reading are on Twitter like ah it's just so annoying that ah that ah hollywood's going to reward another like super ah super oscar baie super like scenery chewing role and I'm like if you knew what the fuck you were talking about. You would see that the reason she doesn't have an Oscar is because she refused to ever do that like if you watch dangerous liaisons or fatal attraction. She was the woman who was never interested in doing that and ah. God lover. She's a great actress but Meryl Streep hasn't challenged herself in a really long time but all that to say ah that was one of the first years that the academy awards had added a lot of young people and they just didn't watch the wife and so they gave it to Olivia Coleman for the favorite who it's not ah, she's great in it and she's a great actress. She's not the lead of that movie.

46:45.36
thatsdope
The.

47:03.77
Leezus
It's ah, a lead with 2 women who are both nominated in supporting actress and that's ah you know we could go all the way down, but that was just like I wouldn't even I didn't even say anything I just was completely silent I just went to my room and I shut the door. But luckily I came back I came back out in a few minutes because that was also the night that parasite won best picture. So is it. It was a good.

47:14.82
thatsdope
Um, it Oh okay, Okay, okay next I remember that Oh okay, wow.

47:21.86
Leezus
Oh no, no no wait that was the green book year. So I should have stayed in bed. Yeah, although hey I'll say this green book watchable movie under 2 hours love it Baby I love that it's under 2 hours I think it's a mediocre movie.

47:27.11
thatsdope
Okay, Van yeah, okay as I heard most people said that wasn't a good movie like in is like it. There's other like black focused movies that like were better than.

47:41.84
Leezus
Well yeah, that was the year black clansman came out and spike Lee famously said every time they have a a white man or white a white man in a or a white person and a black person driving in a car together I lose because do do the right thing lost to driving Miss Davey which is also an incorrect decision. Yeah yeah.

47:44.79
thatsdope
Yeah.

47:52.48
thatsdope
Yeah, oh that's hilarious. He had a nickel every time be 2 nickchels but that's a lot. Um wow that's funny. What has been one of your favorite years of the oscars.

48:00.93
Leezus
Yeah, yeah, oh boy like recently or ever so I am in firmly in the camp. There are 2 years that people argue about are the best 1 is ah.

48:07.90
thatsdope
Ever.

48:18.46
Leezus
Think it's 1976 and the best picture lineup was the original rocky which even though I hate sports movies is a great movie. Um network which is a fantastic movie about ah basically broadcast news and it was the idea of for-profit news but in 1976 and I would recommend everyone listening to this watch that movie. It's on Hbo Max every single thing that was said in that movie as satire has become true assassinating people on live Tv for ratings. It's happened ah but deliberately propping up a faux revolutionary group in order to have cutting edge programming of you know from the headlines of like ah in this case, it was a there's the funniest joke in the the movie is.

48:38.44
thatsdope
Oh.

48:56.98
Leezus
1 of the recurring characters is a a leader of kind of a black panther chapter and Faye Duaway's character who's one of the leads of the movie convinces her basically to say you know? yeah you could stay that and you're probably doing a lot of important work or you could make a name for yourself and and so they make up together she and this woman make up the super generic ah like. Revolutionary group. It's making fun of the group that kidnapped Patdy Hirst so it's something along the lines of the symboneese liberation army literally means nothing and so by the end of the movie. This woman who started as an idealist is just as greedy as everyone else at her last scene people are just walking by and she's in a room and she's on the phone and she goes I knew you were gonna fuck me on my distribution. Rights. You. You think that I'll you know I won't shoot some cracker in the face and then I'll come back and fuck with a man who's trying to fuck with my distribution rights and the idea that you can come full circle and obviously it's more than this but like the span of 2 hours on an idealist like that I think is so present. But anyway, it's a great movie for a million reasons. So rocky network taxi driver.

49:46.21
thatsdope
Um, okay.

49:52.29
Leezus
Um, really cororsese's first proper like I'm I'm here get used to it kind of thing of course I'm blinking on the other two but they are also by really good people so that's one but then I'm in the 2007 camp which was the best pictures were no conju for old men which one deservedly. Um, there will be blood.

50:04.86
thatsdope
Moon.

50:11.60
Leezus
Lot of people like it I've watched it four times I don't get it man I just yeah I just it's not for me I fell asleep at the theater and I was a kid but I didn't judge it for that I was like whatever um and then Michael Clayton which is one of my all time favorite movies I post a lot of memes about it. My um cover photo on Facebook was for a long time.

50:11.42
thatsdope
Wow.

50:18.56
thatsdope
Ah, yeah, asking that 7

50:29.23
Leezus
1 of those like yard signs of in this house we believe science is real yadda yada but in this house we believe the the film Michael Clayton the 2007 film Michael Clayton directed by Tony Gilroy is an underrated cinematic masterpiece that deserves further appreciation in the western canon. That's like yep, which one that's just ah, a me thing to do but it's accurate.

50:41.26
thatsdope
Yeah, Wow. Okay I am googling that right now.

50:48.57
Leezus
Yeah, and then atonement which is a really good ah period piece about ah it's kind of the dunkirk era but it's not just about the dunkirk invasion and then Juno which is a really good comedy. There are things you could have swapped in there and said but that was the first time that I was seeing movie after movie.

50:55.11
thatsdope
Okay.

51:07.50
Leezus
Over the course of a year and I wasn't just thinking that was good I was thinking why was that good and I remember I went back and I saw no country for old men over and over and over again and it wasn't just because there's a lot of great gun fights. There are but it's just because I was like what is it that they're doing that is making me so interested in this and it took me.

51:24.66
thatsdope
Um, ah.

51:26.57
Leezus
Ah, long time to ah you know, build up my film grammar but that was really the year that it shifted and the fact that that year is held up so well. Um I think really speaks to that all 5 of those movies listeners are absolutely worth ah, checking out.

51:38.65
thatsdope
Okay, yeah, yeah I mean got me itchedized to start ah putting the list together I'm like I got to check this all out. Yeah, like I mean definitely you put me on like a lot of good comics. A lot of good movies for sure you still reading comics.

51:45.28
Leezus
Anytime dude.

51:51.89
Leezus
Yes, although I had to stop buying them because I kept buying them and not reading them but I got a new ipad on um, ah prime day I got one of the old ones. So like it's it's chugging along but all I needed to do is be a book So that's fine.

51:54.31
thatsdope
Ah, yeah, a.

52:03.58
thatsdope
That's true. It no room I Yeah yeah.

52:04.88
Leezus
Because I I gave up on the physical thing because one it's not good for the environment too I don't care about the objects I don't want to sell them like I'm not going to collect them and yet there's just no room. Um, so it it sucks to not support. You know a local comic store but it also sucks to not have a crap ton of crap around my.

52:18.77
thatsdope
Yeah, right? honestly like I'm running out of room myself for real.

52:23.33
Leezus
My already crap-filled house. But yes and ah the x-men my you know my my babies had a really rough time during the period when Disney had not yet acquired Fox and they did this whole thing where they basically tried to kill off all the mutants in comics and turn the inhumans into a stand den for the mutants and nobody bought the comics.

52:30.21
thatsdope
E.

52:38.90
thatsdope
Oh.

52:43.39
Leezus
And so they were like we're sorry you know that that South Park Bp episode. We're sorry yeah, um, but since then they they have this. They had this really cool sci-fi run that is finally ending. But it's very high concept. Ah they live on an island now and it's like a.

52:48.84
thatsdope
Ah, that's funny.

53:00.65
Leezus
Not mutant superiority but mutant independent. So it's a mutant state and it's just very dramatic. It's like game of Thrones plus a lot of weird sci-fi plus a lot of weird like future corporatist kind of stuff like what does a corporation look like not in our terrible world but like. If we weren't all garbage monsters. What is business look like in the twenty first century or or when 1 power like waconda in um, both the comics and in black panther. Um like when one country is so far beyond everyone else and it's it's it's really good. It's worth checking out. Also the first time storm has had any good writing since the.

53:18.87
thatsdope
Ah, the ideal. Ah.

53:28.00
thatsdope
Okay.

53:36.84
thatsdope
Wow. Also favorite part that's pretty dove. Okay, and then also we have been talking about you getting into anime. How's that been cabining.

53:36.89
Leezus
Late 1980 s and she's my favorite comic book character. So yeah.

53:44.44
Leezus
Yeah, well you know it it really it started because I wanted stuff to watch like while I ate dinner for 30 minutes that wasn't a sitcom I'd seen him billion times before like you know I know every word to every episode of 30 rock and Seinfeld I should probably try to broaden it a bit.

53:57.35
thatsdope
Um, ah yeah I Want to say also like you have caught you have comfort shows huh like I'm I Unfortunately I don't think I like rewatch shows right now I feel like I'm always just like sort of like eating like new consuming like new.

54:03.51
Leezus
Um, oh we all do I Love a pop culture comfort food.

54:14.13
Leezus
Um, in a.

54:15.81
thatsdope
Titles because I'm always behind like I don't feel like I I have enough time in a way to re enjoy like an older thing.

54:24.58
Leezus
Yeah, well, that's ah, that's actually a big thing I tried to tried really hard a few years ago to stop doing which is the whole you haven't seen x no one's born seeing anything. Yeah, like it like shut up like the the much more helpful way to phrase that is oh I think you would really like it. Yeah.

54:28.72
thatsdope
Yeah I know like I like it. Yeah.

54:39.30
thatsdope
You Thank you? Thank you because like I mean people do that to me all the time and I get it I'm like yeah yeah, right? I'm like look I want to I'm trying so hard. That's why I watch movies on airplanes you know? Ah, but.

54:42.36
Leezus
And here's why yeah fuck him fuck him.

54:52.64
thatsdope
And that's also why like I'm trying just to like consume as much as possible. You know and people like for example, 1 piece is my favorite I've always bring I always talk about it for sure. But I cannot fault anyone for not wanting to start one piece because it's a thousand plus episodes I don't blame you. You know who that sounds so daunting to say you haven't seen one piece.

55:08.90
Leezus
Um, yeah.

55:11.97
thatsdope
But of a but you know that's not going to get anyone to want to watch it.

55:15.19
Leezus
Yeah, how have you not sat down to watch a 900 episodes of something. Yeah, how very dare you I tried we'll talk about later. Um I didn't dislike it I was just like this isn't as compelling to me as the other stuff I'm I'm rotating between but the.

55:17.63
thatsdope
So what's wrong with you. We we should definitely watch 1 piece though. Yes, for sure day.

55:32.66
Leezus
Anime thing First it was ah just like trying to find something with cool action scenes because I like action stuff and martial art stuff and stuff with superpowers and there's just not a lot out there in you know the physical people medias and yeah and anime can scratch that itch and so then I started doing.

55:36.78
thatsdope
Ah.

55:42.55
thatsdope
Yeah, physical people like that.

55:51.60
Leezus
Dragon Ball Z Kai about a month ago and I was like this is okay, it was really interesting to see you know I think people do some some people do this consciously others do it unconsciously but we all do it when you are entering adolescence right? You were like. None of us know what's going on but I don't know that I only know that I don't know what's going on so I have to construct a version of myself that I feel comfortable bringing to middle school every day and all that stuff and I just was realizing well I was watching Dragonballz how much ah Vigita Prince of saans king of the planet vigita ah like.

56:13.32
thatsdope
Ah.

56:22.32
Leezus
I Incorporated into kind of the armor that I built for myself. It is shocking.

56:22.61
thatsdope
Really that again, you know like I will no. It's not the best thing to build your persona around but the same time.

56:31.81
Leezus
Well I I like I think that shows a lot of issues. 1 of my big pet peeves in any kind of media that it is very guilty of is the whole like oh well, we've completely changed the system in which this operates. So yeah, you were going to lose under the rules of the previous system but because you.

56:50.14
thatsdope
Yeah, yeah.

56:50.54
Leezus
You know your hair changed colors Now you're breaking out of that and and we start it all over again. But I do like that the characters while they're very simple. They have flaws and I love Vgita's complete inability to like admit that he is not the best right? and like that's the classic moment in both the cell and majinbu sagas where it's like.

57:00.99
thatsdope
Yes.

57:09.84
Leezus
It is so it is much more important to me that I be the one to beat this than that this evil be destroyed. Yeah, so I got through freeza which has has always been my favorite. Um, and then I was like yeah I may come back to this. We'll see and then I got to you you hawk a show which as you will remember was a he I was a huge fan of it I didn't have cable so I had my grandma.

57:10.89
thatsdope
Actually the beat of fees. Yeah.

57:29.13
thatsdope
Wow! So nice. Wow.

57:29.80
Leezus
Who did have cable tape all of the episodes she could on to nami for me and then I would just binge I at her early binging. Um, but it first of all it it also speaking with the like vjita. Yeah, as part of my kind of suit of armor thing I think youka youremeshhi and I we we should know we just share so much in that.

57:43.80
thatsdope
Use gay. Ah.

57:48.60
Leezus
We know the things that we're good at and we know that we'll figure it out So I don't do a lot of strategizing I just jump in and I'm like okay I just got if I'm working on and I'm working on and I'm working on it and also he he like me has the inability to see something happening and not say something about it and it doesn't yeah.

57:52.80
thatsdope
Um I dig that.

57:58.44
thatsdope
Yeah, which I I like that honest see I like ah first of all I Love Usekay's dialogue throughout the whole thing. It's so funny like I actually I got in trouble quoting a few things but ah, that's as a whole knowledge conversation. But.

58:05.80
Leezus
Yeah, it's so funny. Dude that show is so funny.

58:15.49
thatsdope
Ah, but yes, no I love that and also I think we need more a little bit more use case. Although I like that like he he can adapt on the fly like in a battle like you know he has like so like a high intelligence in that sense. Um, like I'm watching bleach right? You know I'm watching bleach reading bleach actually too like I'm on chapter four 60

58:25.88
Leezus
Um, yeah, yeah, yeah, um.

58:35.40
thatsdope
Um, and I'm mad at each you ago because he doesn't ask any questions like he doesn't strategize but he's not asking any questions or doing anything different. He's just I just got yell louder and just go heart more hard into the apartments it. Yeah honestly honestly I think that's that's that's where we say because.

58:41.58
Leezus
Um, yeah.

58:47.92
Leezus
It's because he watched she was Straggga Ball Z as a kid he learned from the wrong people.

58:54.92
thatsdope
Yeah, Goku and vegita and although luckily like they have like at least more battle sense in my opinion. But but.

59:00.56
Leezus
Yeah I I know people overall seem to like bleach and they I've seen it recommended by a lot of websites as like if you want kind of the classic shownen experience of an anime. It is the it is good one because it's not too long, but it is long enough that everybody gets a long thing but having watched.

59:11.39
thatsdope
Yeah, yeah.

59:17.49
thatsdope
Who yeah, yeah, for real I'd like honestly like shows today people only want to be like the classics are great and I'm like no like current stuff is amazing right now like I think there's a so many different genres of stuff. There are.

59:17.85
Leezus
I guess last year the first season of Jujusu Kaizen I'm like now you can find it elsewhere because that's a good show and that's got all of it that's got all of it.

59:31.69
Leezus
Um, yeah.

59:36.47
thatsdope
Yeah, are great examples of genres of stuff right now that you can really enjoy ah like I just enjoyed Ohhi noco which was um about idols you know like pop stars and idols and getting intota industry like it shows you like how the industry works and then like like but through the narration and like through like the action of what's happening. Um.

59:47.19
Leezus
Ah, yeah.

59:55.34
thatsdope
There's Bochita Rock which is about anxiety crippling anxiety but like sort of powering through it to become ah to do what you want? Do you know I like to yeah like I loved it like things that I think were sort of outside of like my comfort zone but I'm really enjoying it prison school I think is one of the funniest.

59:58.61
Leezus
Yeah.

01:00:05.40
Leezus
Um, yeah.

01:00:14.68
thatsdope
Yeah, like ah man I I want you to check? Yeah I Love Prison school is so hilarious I wouldn't tell everyone to go watch it. But I think if you can handle some adult humor. This one's one the best. Um.

01:00:15.62
Leezus
Ah, that's a great name I don't know what that means, but it's great. Okay.

01:00:23.69
Leezus
A.

01:00:30.22
thatsdope
There's a lot of great stuff. So I'm excited for you I Can't wait to hear like more things you're going to be jumping into oh man.

01:00:36.65
Leezus
Yeah, and this is this was significantly earlier than the kind of recent renaissance I've had but ah you know cowboy bebop is one of my favorite Tv shows ever not with an anime asterisk like if I was making my top 10 Tv shows of all time. It's going to be in there I have I own it on.

01:00:48.50
thatsdope
Um, oh.

01:00:52.41
Leezus
Blu-ray I own it on Itunes like it's just really good and I like that it it's a reminder to me that you don't have to follow a formula everything around it was doing 800 episodes and very specific familiar storytelling and arcs and you know I remember watching it for the first time start to finish. Probably it was we were seniors in high school. Yeah I was like 16 17 18 s I'm like that and um, that episode where they accidentally trip balls on mushrooms and I'm like that. Why is it doing this but now I'm like that's awesome. They were like we don't need to have a show that's ah we don't need to have every episode be kiss kiss bang bang. It could just be really crazy and funny and.

01:01:12.65
thatsdope
Man.

01:01:18.15
thatsdope
He is exactly yeah.

01:01:31.39
Leezus
As a lover as well of jazz and specifically kind of Japan's weird relationship with jazz as a genre. It's something that just gets better every time I go back to it. Ah yeah.

01:01:38.76
thatsdope
I Love that I agree and I need to do It makes me think I like I need to do ah I used to do Cowbo beep up parties I need to bring that back. So like jazz first no like we would do a jazz party based off of like the franchise of Cowbo beep up. Yeah yeah, so.

01:01:45.73
Leezus
Just like you put an episode on and then or you oh you make the playlist. Oh that's cool I'd go to that.

01:01:53.73
thatsdope
Yeah, yeah, so hey maybe Austin I need to bring that like around because to hear your appreciation of it is like okay, great. This is great. Yeah man like youde like I'm excited here about your journey and I like also I definitely need to be asking you about a lot more movies I'm glad you told me about the whale because I was going to start down on the airplane. Um.

01:02:11.59
Leezus
It's it's worth watching just be be prepared. It's tough, but it's like it it asks a lot of you and I promise this is worth hearing it it asks a lot of you in the first 20 minutes and I think the reason so many people hate quote unquote hated it is because you have a choice in that moment to. Embrace that ah not even uncertainty that like ah that horror it is a horrifying opening 20 minutes very deliberately not to gross you out but to say look you're either going to be in this guy's house and life with him or you're not and if you don't like if you don't pass the test and sorry that's evaluative and I shouldn't be.

01:02:41.19
thatsdope
Wow.

01:02:49.11
Leezus
If you can't make that kind of bond or that step to be like okay I'm just going to embrace this and really just be like this is I'm not seeing this as something gross that is happening in front of me I am seeing what this person's daily life is like if you can make that leap. You will have a really good emotional experience and when Brendan Fraser took that Oscar away from that fuckin.

01:02:59.37
thatsdope
Ah.

01:03:09.13
Leezus
Ah, gay sex porn doll looking Elvis loser who still talks like Elvis because he's only done ew shows. Um, ah that was so that made me so happy and that guy's such a nice guy and you should rewatch the mummy if you haven't all of you. It's on new.

01:03:17.85
thatsdope
Yeah, oh wow. Yeah I definitely wouldn want to rewatch mummy I Been you know I'm glad he's getting like his shine again like I was actually wondering like what happened to him but then to see man man.

01:03:26.20
Leezus
Great holds up real. Well.

01:03:32.59
Leezus
Yeah, he got obese. Yeah well he actually this is sad so serious trigger warning for some sexual assault stuff. He was you know pretty violently and assertively groped by an incredibly drunk member of ah. I think it was the Hollywood Foreign Press Association who used to vote on the golden globes and they're the fake organization that you know is famous for taking bribes and all that stuff and you know he reported it. Nobody believed him and he got really depressed and he lost his career and he he ah and this is his words you know he really had a destructive relationship.

01:03:48.11
thatsdope
Um, oh.

01:04:06.91
Leezus
With food and I think not to give too much away. But I think the movie the whale is not about obesity I think it's about ah self-harm through the you know through the medium of ah well self-destruction self-harm. Whatever word you want to use but um anyway, so he you know got really out of shape and then.

01:04:14.20
thatsdope
Um.

01:04:16.52
thatsdope
Um, yeah.

01:04:25.47
Leezus
He just had enough people who because he had never you know said a rude thing to anyone in his life when he kind of started putting feelers back out there. It didn't take him long to get jobs and they weren't great stuff. You know he's in the um Doom Patrol Tv show like he's just out there doing the work and ah basically people are like.

01:04:34.35
thatsdope
Oh.

01:04:42.59
Leezus
Hey we're just so happy to see this guy that we loved and who was to me Brendan Fraser 90 s movies. They are all pure joy that is what they are a warm hug right? Blast from the past George of the jungle mummy mummy returns. All that like it is. He's just and to see that kindness. You know have a really horrific road.

01:04:46.71
thatsdope
Um, yeah.

01:05:02.15
Leezus
And it it paired perfectly. Well with um Kiway Kwan from ah everything everywhere who also had an incredible start and then a horrific interlude and um, yeah, pretty it.

01:05:02.80
thatsdope
Oh yeah, yeah I was wondering what happened to him like I mean I'm really happy to you know everything everywhere all at once my favorite character for sure. But yeah, yeah, but dang like but I am really happy Actually I'm glad you bring that up like at.

01:05:14.71
Leezus
Oh yeah, he's credible. Yeah.

01:05:22.26
thatsdope
Shit I think always like you know what could happen but you know I guess to keep on going through it right? like.

01:05:29.90
Leezus
Yeah, it's it's it is not it I am not saying it is a choice in that being depressed as a choice. It's not if I could choose it I Sure wouldn't be I'd love to not be on antidepressants or whatever you know, but like ah but at a certain point and the movie is about this and a.

01:05:39.74
thatsdope
Um I.

01:05:46.32
Leezus
Weirdly I'm thinking about a lot of my favorite movies including gravity which you so slandered by watching on a phone but fun fact that is the movie I've seen most in theaters I saw it 4 times all of them in imax it's but like over a hundred bucks and and ah oh god I promise this is this is related to this. Um.

01:05:48.51
thatsdope
Sorry Wow Wow. Wow.

01:06:02.98
Leezus
1 of the things that was cool about you u hawka show is I had this moment with that and then with an album I hadn't listened to in a long time of like you know the things that make an impact on you are worth revisiting because you're not the same person when you saw it and you've learned a lot and you view things differently? um and it's not like you you hawkish show I'm saying is on the same level as like.

01:06:21.39
thatsdope
Although you can enjoy more I think the more life you go through I Yeah yeah yeah.

01:06:21.69
Leezus
Whatever but it it. Oh yeah I would never have appreciated how funny it was as a kid but I made this list of like every film I could think of and I cut it off at about 2019 of like every movie every album every book. Ah that I can think of in it. And I gave myself a time limit I wasn't like scanning everything because I will do that I'm like oh I like that oh I like that. Um, so it's like a total of 15 things and I'm just slowly kind of reengaging with them but gravity is one of those where um to me the film is completely metaphorical people are like.

01:06:38.50
thatsdope
I I.

01:06:56.36
Leezus
Um, it's so it's inherently stupid because ah the satellites and the space station wouldn't be in the same orbit shut the fuck up. It's a movie like it's just go like why are you here if this is what you think I saw it I saw it with 2 people who were brilliant science students at ut at the time and you know they watched this this.

01:07:02.48
thatsdope
Yeah, no or right go to go to college right? ah.

01:07:13.76
Leezus
Really crazy exciting action movie and you know towards the end like she she has to hold her breath a long time to get out of that pod in the water and all that and I swear I was like so what do you think and one of them goes. She would never have been able to hold her breath that long and I said dude she ping ponged her. Ah.

01:07:30.46
Leezus
Skate pod that didn't have engines anymore off of a solar panel into another like what are you talking about? that's the thing that bothers you? yeah but there's but there's this moment in ah in gravity where um, basically it's like it's 1 thing too many because the whole point of that movie is ah.

01:07:32.66
thatsdope
Yeah, right hey I know disbelief like suspend your disbelief for a second right? like that's.

01:07:49.59
Leezus
It's like a very horrific version of the little old lady who's followed a fly like okay so this thing hits So She's out of the space station because her line got tethered. She's got to get in the space station Space Station's on Fire. Gotta get out of the space station Ah Escape Pod doesn't work. Gotta to get to another Escape Pod Escape Pod Works. Gets straighted in the middle like and and so on and so forth and it's just and at this point at one point she just quits right? She turns off the pod and she's like I just can't do this anymore and there's this thing you haven't known about her this whole time and and it is a bit of a you know hanging a lantern and putting a big star by it Moment. Ah. Where you understand what happened to her that is that she's really been thinking about this whole time and for me, that's the reason you read the movie Metaphorically. It's not about this.. It's about a woman recovering from the worst thing that can happen to you. It's not rape I don't want to imply that um, ah and and it's an again, It's not a. Ah, thing to choose not to be sad about it. It's a thing to choose to go on anyway and I didn't I'd never struggled with depression up at that point it came out in 2014. We were 22 Um I'd never struggled with depression I've never struggled with grief I'd never struggled with um, a lot of the stuff that.

01:08:40.27
thatsdope
Yeah.

01:08:49.59
thatsdope
Ah.

01:08:57.18
thatsdope
Yeah.

01:08:57.52
Leezus
You know we have because we're humans and that's what happens right? And ah I am really scared to go back to it because I don't think I have I have owned it on Bluray since it came out on Blu-ray but I don't think I've watched it like start to finish since I saw it last in theaters. 1 of the 4 times. Um, but I'm like excited too because.

01:09:05.63
thatsdope
You.

01:09:16.26
Leezus
If it taught me so much you know, just with retrospect what what have I not seen what have I forgotten how can I um, you know continue to connect with that and yeah, so it's been a really fun exercise I would encourage everyone to like think about trying it don't it doesn't have to be highfalutin like I didn't pick 16 books who has the fucking time I picked 2 novels.

01:09:16.29
thatsdope
Yeah. Yeah, wow.

01:09:32.35
thatsdope
Yeah, for real like no one reads these days because I mean there's just so much going on right? But yeah whole series. Yeah.

01:09:36.19
Leezus
Ah, yeah, yeah, and with with Tv shows I just tried to pick a few episodes because again I'm not going to do that I love Matt I love mad men I've done it through twice I don't need to do it sit at this moment in my life I don't need to do it again. Yeah.

01:09:51.44
thatsdope
Yeah I would like to finish mad men I stopped I think like season 3 or 4 oh man.

01:09:58.47
Leezus
Yeah I actually season 3 is a very understandable place to startt because like the front half of it's really rough but the back half of it is when it first starts to get crazy like that's where the famous lawnmower incident that the Christmas party happens. Ah, ah now it's know.

01:10:00.42
thatsdope
Um, yeah, maybe I stopped at season 3 Oh oh so yeah I need jump that. Okay.

01:10:13.30
Leezus
Um, no, no well like if I'm saying you probably didn't get to that point because of the boring first half. But the second half is when it really comes alive as a show and and they start to have episodes that are just comedy episodes and they start to pair our characters together in weird ways. Um Madman I think is a great example of what you were talking about with one piece where it took me 3 runs at mad men. Get into it the first I watched the first season through the year it came out and I was like I hate this It's boring. Um and a big part of that was a lot of straight dudes around me being like Don Draper's awesome I'm like are we watching the same show and eventually I realized okay, no, they're just wrong I I am reading this correctly, they are wrong. He is an awful person and exactly and that's the point of the show.

01:10:35.90
thatsdope
Um, ah.

01:10:41.10
thatsdope
Is yeah yeah, he's not post be awesome. Yeah yeah, although I think he's a great. He's made marketing Genius But yes, still yeah, but yeah.

01:10:51.57
Leezus
Um, oh yeah, well it. But it is it is kind of that anime thing of like he always comes up with the most perfect speech at the last minute and it's like give me a fucking break.

01:11:00.16
thatsdope
Yeah, why honestly is like all Superman saved today again right? Oh also you watching the new superman. Yeah, there's like an anime superman yeah is on next? Yeah yeah.

01:11:07.60
Leezus
Yeah, there's a new superman really what's it on I will watch it because I used to hate Superman because I thought it was boring and it turns out he's just a good person and I was an asshole. Um, and I really like him.

01:11:18.84
thatsdope
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like apparently this show is supposed to be like the thing that's bringing everyone back to Superman you know Superman love again. So yay, um man but no, really well said like is making me think like what do I want to rewatch.

01:11:22.20
Leezus
So I yeah.

01:11:27.10
Leezus
Yeah.

01:11:33.52
thatsdope
I did during the pandemic I did rewatch full metal al outcomes brotherhood and I'm really glad I did that like I saw back when it came out 2009 you know seeing it 2021 Twenty Twenty like I think that like really helped me out again and be like oh yeah, all this you know war and genocide and.

01:11:36.35
Leezus
A.

01:11:50.78
thatsdope
Deeper topics about military states. You know like that's that's important. Yeah things I missed out like oh cool alchemy. Whatever.

01:11:54.69
Leezus
Yeah, yeah, well and and like church versus science versus church sanction science and all that stuff like that. It's got a lot of interesting stuff in the mix. Um, yeah yeah I have two goddaughters. They're 14 and 15 and they have made me a massive list.

01:12:00.10
thatsdope
There O Okay also I didn't yeah you did brotherhood as tight.

01:12:12.57
Leezus
In fact, ah I started watching highq recently because I wanted it was like you youha a show I was too involved in but I had the exact same experience with this cartoon about kids playing volleyball that I had with Friday night lights where my brother who we we couldn't be more different people but he has great tastes generally and he knows.

01:12:12.70
thatsdope
A.

01:12:20.64
thatsdope
Yeah, it's like who cares.

01:12:31.22
Leezus
He's like he would keep saying I promise you it's not what you think you should watch Friday night lights and I'm like it's about Texas high school football I notoriously hated Texas high school football when I was in high school in Texas it's incredible. It is one of the best shows ever made because it's not about that. It is the only time that I've seen.

01:12:36.87
thatsdope
I live through it right? wow.

01:12:48.62
Leezus
Smalltown life depicted in a non-condescending way and not only that but in a really compelling way and it it suffered a lot from the writer strike and it suffered a lot from getting scrapped and then bought a couple years later by a tiny network that no one watched? um but it has a hell of a finish. Ah my favorite marriage I think on tv ever is that. Tammy and coach Taylor um, they're great Kyle Chandler it's the only time you you will see him not play a government official or secret agent of some kind so worth it for that alone. No you see it never ends and that's why you can't beat yourself up and that's why you shouldn't beat other people up because.

01:13:07.42
thatsdope
Okay, okay.

01:13:15.53
thatsdope
Okay, oh Dan obviously'll get there so many things that like I'm gonna have to for real exactly like there's just so much content I don't know how people can be bored these days because there's just so much to enjoy. But at the same time.

01:13:26.75
Leezus
Yeah.

01:13:32.83
thatsdope
Yeah, me and definitely I'm I'm always like drowning in stuff to like consume like I'm trying to read manga trying to play games trying to watch anime trying to watch shows trying to watch movies right? um shit like I'm like I want to ask you a list of things to watch but I'm also like I'm like ah do I need the do I need. To watch more things or I mean I Definitely want to watch more things I don't yeah.

01:13:51.62
Leezus
Yeah, and and I was going to say I will we will do it after this I'll happily make you a list but I'll make it manageable and I think the key if you do that for someone is you got to give them. You know a log line of what it is like my goddater's list when I was looking through stuff. It's at Hiq and it just said volleyball question Mark next to it which I guess I wrote.

01:14:08.81
thatsdope
Yeah, yeah.

01:14:10.58
Leezus
But was like oh that's interesting. Um, but yeah I think you got to do that and then you also in me in this case would would and should not be able to take it personally if like you haven't gotten to something yet like shut up everyone. We all have a finite amount of time on this earth right? That's the 1 thing we can all agree on whether the earth blows up or.

01:14:26.26
thatsdope
Um, dear.

01:14:28.44
Leezus
Just expire because we're human beings like it is okay to say you know what? That's not what I want to do with the 24 hours I have in this day. Um, but I I this is kind of one of the things I do so for books because that can get overwhelming and as a recovering english major that was my degree. Um I get very.

01:14:32.92
thatsdope
Real yeah.

01:14:46.80
Leezus
Ridiculous feelings of guilt of um you know like oh these are the great books in the canon that I haven't read and there's so many so I kind of have a rotation of a nonfiction interesting like historical thing that I want to read like I just finished a great book about the ah Salem witch trials called a storm of witchcraft and it's it was really good. It has like.

01:14:48.90
thatsdope
Yeah.

01:15:00.27
thatsdope
Um, okay.

01:15:04.60
Leezus
Because it was a trial. They have all of the transcripts. So even though it's these fucking idiots being like it's literally like in the crucible like they have lines in there where the the judge who's you know this actual authority in the land is like where do you see the bird that none of us can see little girl and she's like oh it's ah up there like it's so stupid. Um, anyways, that's great and then I will go to.

01:15:17.54
thatsdope
Yeah, oh no.

01:15:24.63
Leezus
Ah, like a more contemporary or just kind of recent ah fiction of some kind like I love you know, detective books of any whether they're highbrow or lowbrow. Um I love a Kindle because you can get your ninety nine cent mysteries in romance novels and no one can judge you because they don't know what you're reading. Um.

01:15:28.90
thatsdope
Um, ah.

01:15:39.36
thatsdope
Ah.

01:15:40.88
Leezus
And then I go to ah something that is like I'll take my medicine and I'll pick something off the list of this is something that not only is essential like ah I finally read lolita earlier this year and it was so good. Um, it's not what you think it is but it isn't um, it's really about like the hilarious kind of.

01:15:49.35
thatsdope
Um, my.

01:15:52.13
thatsdope
Okay.

01:16:01.61
Leezus
Unrecognized impotence of the American male of like doing so many things because they feel inadequate but not being able to recognize that they're doing it because they're inadequate because they don't think they're inadequate. Um, it's great. So that's books and then for movies I would say.

01:16:07.46
thatsdope
Ah, ah to.

01:16:17.23
Leezus
You know your favorites you know, um, don't overthink it don't look at a list of the greatest movies ever made like frankly now at age thirty one I'm annoyed that I have so many movies in my top 20 ah on letterbox which is kind of the ubiquitous film Twitter thing um or top 4 which is the one that goes by your ah by your name on letterbox um.

01:16:32.60
thatsdope
Me.

01:16:37.14
Leezus
Like I'm annoyed that so many of them have academy award nominations because it's like I don't want people to think that but it's it's really I mean the correlation is only well, but the correlation is really that I looked at lists when I was younger of movies to check out based on that and it's not like every movie that was nominated for best picture I liked certainly not this year would be a great example of that.

01:16:41.18
thatsdope
Ah, yeah, they correlate.

01:16:47.36
thatsdope
Um, ah yeah for sure.

01:16:55.88
Leezus
2 good ones bunch of stinkers and also nope that was the best movie I saw this year that wasn't or last year that wasn't everything ever. We're all at once and it's sad because if it wasn't if that movie wasn't in the mix then nope would have been far and away like not only the best film of the year but it is one of the best films I've seen in a long time.

01:17:03.50
thatsdope
Ah.

01:17:12.81
thatsdope
Um, yeah.

01:17:14.25
Leezus
And I think it's it's classic of ah the academy to be like okay we're we've we've done Jordan Peele we don't need to do it and it's like you were idiots. He's leveling up dude every time.

01:17:20.12
thatsdope
Right? And like we've been happy to so over celebrate certain people right? It's not like all we got stop with Jordan Peele like unless he's like not making like hits like it be yeah I agree although get a.

01:17:26.50
Leezus
And.

01:17:31.97
Leezus
Which is not because they're I think they're all incredible and I think each one has gotten better I think get out is a It's a perfect tight thing but the scope of us is so wild and big and that makes it great and then Nope is it.

01:17:39.97
thatsdope
Yeah, yeah.

01:17:46.28
Leezus
I Think people thought it was going to be a horror movie I thought it was going to be a horror movie but and I don't even like aliens. But at the time of my life I thought it was incredible and it is in such great dialogue with the history of ah black actors and the Hollywood Western and like that idea of I own I am a black man who owns the means of production for this iconic white thing.

01:17:48.54
thatsdope
Yeah, yeah.

01:17:57.39
thatsdope
Ah, yeah, yeah, on the horse.

01:18:04.28
thatsdope
Um, that's really well said I like that I like that and then loin last thing. Ah before we had talked a little bit about ah moonlight and La La Land Yes and um, shit like I have to tell you of my experience with moonlight La La land.

01:18:04.92
Leezus
So How does that fit together like I don't know it's It's Great. It's a great movie. Yeah yeah, hit me? yes. Please please.

01:18:20.88
thatsdope
Um, like right before I moved to or actually wasn't like white before but like I went to go see my friend in San Diego when I was still living in Texas and I was like it was the weekend right before the Oscars and I was like I think la la land's going to win. If I was thinking like what movie should I go watch right? So like I was like it was either moonlight or La La Land and I went to go see la la land and it wasn't a great experience for me and yeah, oh for sure for sure I got yeah I was mad honestly like watching it one old man sleeping and snoring like in the theater.

01:18:37.86
Leezus
Yep.

01:18:43.13
Leezus
Um, big mistake. Huge I don't hate it. It's fine. It's just not for me, you know.

01:18:52.98
thatsdope
And I was like you know you're not wrong old man. Ah and then like also sort even colored like how I thought l a would be although I was most mad or I thought yeah yeah, okay so first off 1 they stop it stops being a musical halfway through.

01:18:59.89
Leezus
Up its own ass.

01:19:08.91
Leezus
Oh yeah, and none of the songs are longer than 2 minutes yeah

01:19:11.57
thatsdope
Yeah I was a so like isn't this supposed to be a musical like I was actually ready for a musical ah and then I was just like wait. It's just bunch of white people complaining about whatever you know, like not even like really about like real shit. You know like their whole lives are being coddled and.

01:19:24.50
Leezus
Are.

01:19:28.47
thatsdope
Ryan Gosslingasco saved jazz music from the guy who hired him god but I was like what yeah and then I miss moonlight but I watch moonlight eventually and but like that whole situation then.

01:19:30.74
Leezus
Evil John Legend noted hater of jazz music John legend.

01:19:46.40
thatsdope
The fact of what happened during the the whole ah debacle of it. It just boneks me out because we know no one's talking about moonlight. We're all talking about Lala Land still right I guess yeah that over the.

01:19:55.63
Leezus
You you you people were you plebs, you know you non- movievie plebs. Yeah, so it was it was a really interesting divide. Um East Coast which the the structure of the awards race season.

01:20:02.57
thatsdope
Ah, movie people right.

01:20:14.50
Leezus
Ah, it's sad that it is a race but it is publicity is involved constantly doing interviews constantly having for your consideration events bribing people like just like all this stuff. But ah the East Coast was so firmly moonlight is a great movie. Lala Land is a fine movie and.

01:20:17.91
thatsdope
Day. Yeah.

01:20:31.16
Leezus
And the first half of the race is mainly critic societies so that has a lot more power on the East Coast because that's where you're kind of building buzz is the people who are going to vote on the first awards that come out are almost all East Coast or at least Midwest based um and then as soon as we get to? ah.

01:20:38.64
thatsdope
Um.

01:20:48.71
Leezus
What I call the beauty pageant. It's the televised portion of the awards. So like you know there's all these BS things that come before it. There's the golden globes. There's the sag awards there's the baftas which is the British Oscars and those are all auditions for look how great I will look if I get up on that Oscar stage right? It's all part of the game. It's all part of the thing and so when we got to the beauty.

01:20:50.78
thatsdope
Ah.

01:20:57.94
thatsdope
Ah.

01:21:02.25
thatsdope
Ah, okay.

01:21:07.70
Leezus
Pageant part. Well it's like yeah obviously Emma Stone and Ryan gazing are going to sweep I like Ryan Gosling I think he's an incredible dramatic actor. He's so boring in that movie. He was almost as bored as I was like watching him do it but I was watching so long story short. It really kind of transcended ah sexuality not race.

01:21:13.34
thatsdope
Yeah, he is.

01:21:25.85
thatsdope
Yeah, yeah.

01:21:25.86
Leezus
I've never met a black person who was super intoalla land Good anya. Um, but it it really transcended gay stuff in an interesting way because as you can imagine Ah Lgbt Films kind of fandom is in a weird place because now we actually have direct representation.

01:21:39.21
thatsdope
Yeah.

01:21:42.25
Leezus
And you know there's the whole conversation about only gay actors to play gay roles. It's a whole it is a conversation worth having a lot of people I think come at it from a very stupid angle. But and I also just yeah, yeah, yeah, and spoiler alert I don't think that's true I think Zachary Quinto is gay. He's a shitty actor I don't want to play Harvey Milk

01:21:48.21
thatsdope
Just as we talked earlier about like oh only obese people can play obese people. But yeah.

01:22:00.86
thatsdope
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you want the best person to do it right? like? yeah, but yeah, actually love to have a conversation later. But yeah, like ah yeah, yeah, yeah I I bring you back on the podcast like this was a fantastic talk. But I continue sorry.

01:22:01.87
Leezus
Like get out of here. Um, but but yeah, yeah, it' that's I was going to say it's like it's a great 1 worth having. But it would take too long but this like this I can wrap up? Yeah, oh yeah, I was just going to say this I can wrap up but 2 minutes they'll allla land stuff and you'll appreciate it. So. Ah, all that to say gays were pretty divided I I don't I was over getting bitter about it at that point but I was definitely like not friendly to people who were poopooing moonlight like you can love lolay and but you cannot say that this is not one of the best movies made in that decade which it is um and I was ah.

01:22:36.41
thatsdope
Um, o.

01:22:39.66
Leezus
I had a people over to watch and I was rooming with the lesbian at the time and her girlfriend was there and then two of my film gays in Austin were there and so we're watching and you know ah fade duway opens the envelope lala land. So all of us. Ah I'm like cleaning up I'm in the kitchen and we're all just doing other things and then ah my roommate goes.

01:22:53.53
thatsdope
Ah.

01:22:57.39
Leezus
Ah, something's happening and so we all come back and ah it like ah they said no, there's been a mistake moonlight you guys won and I love that moment so much because you get the white tears with it right? You get the people who are doing the most overrewarded overtold story over and over and over and then you get. Them beat by a movie that cost 30 or no 20000000 to make made 30000000 because America's stupid um and was you know entirely written directed by starring black people and was also fucking great and it was just like Barry Jenkins who's the warmest human being.

01:23:19.41
thatsdope
Yeah.

01:23:25.66
thatsdope
You know.

01:23:34.31
Leezus
You can see him in the background when they're doing the the best picture well that they get up there and also fun fact. Brad Pitt produced that movie. Um, he's a great guy and in that respect I know he has some issues but like he has really elevated great artists. Yeah, and so in the background you can see while the main producer is like talking and stuff Barry Jenkins is basically like.

01:23:37.74
thatsdope
Wow I like brat.

01:23:52.26
Leezus
Freaking out freaking out freaking out and you can just see Brad Pitt lean over and whisper something to him and then he just goes and then they asked him about it later and Barry Jenkins there's like Barry what did brad pit whisper to you and he said it doesn't matter how you got here, you got here and I love that? Yeah, but oh yeah, when when they they reveal that it was a joke the the real punchline is that.

01:24:04.30
thatsdope
Wow dang.

01:24:12.60
Leezus
The 5 people in the gayest room and that zip code of Austin all went what the book in like perfect unison and then it was well like we popped open more champagne like it was just such a great I don't know I just don't see how you can't see that movie and.

01:24:14.30
thatsdope
Yeah, yeah, as alarious.

01:24:26.23
Leezus
And it puts you in another person's perspective that for me I could never have been further from in terms of the experiences I had had and to watch a piece of art that is not only a really compelling piece of art that will be taught as like two future directors for decades to come but who made me understand completely. The experience of someone whose experience could not have been more different for mine. It's pretty remarkable.

01:24:47.19
thatsdope
Um, yeah, oh I 100% agree with that like you know I guess like still especially I guess like still I guess like you know, try and figure out like what it means be an ally I guess right? and like trying to be like what's my own sexuality.

01:25:02.29
Leezus
Um, yeah.

01:25:04.50
thatsdope
You know, like especially like in the black community like where like that's all another topic. We'll have to definitely have to talk about this more.

01:25:10.47
Leezus
Yeah I have some feelings about it and I would love to pre-talk about it before we talk about it because I don't want to say something that I don't mean but I Yeah yeah, you're you're unlike a lot of people our age who refuse to do that. Um.

01:25:12.85
thatsdope
For sure and also I'll I guess you definitely give you like the benefit doubt I mean we've been friends. You know I definitely understand who you are but yes, absolutely like a whoa's.

01:25:25.88
Leezus
But I mean the the core thing there is and I promise I'll show up after this is just like homophobia comes from a lot of places not just white Southern evangelicals they still do it and they're fuckers and I hate them but like we as me I'm putting to myself. We as good white liberals are like it's almost like we don't treat.

01:25:30.52
thatsdope
Yes, yeah.

01:25:45.48
Leezus
People were supposed to be allies with as humans and straight people do this to me all the time like someone ah in in my life will text me like every pride month and I'll be like I don't care about this or could you believe this Anti-b Blah blah legislation I'll be like yeah like but um, but ah.

01:25:56.50
thatsdope
He has yeah you've seen it live through it.

01:26:02.46
Leezus
Yeah, but like you know there's obviously huge bastions of Homophobia especially for men in the black community like the threat of violence is so real in terms of coming out. It's a lot higher stakes I think in the modern Era still in black families in islamic communities I mean one of the reasons that I'm like it drives me nuts when.

01:26:13.28
thatsdope
Are.

01:26:20.75
Leezus
Liberals who again have not done the reading will be like it's just so awful. The way that we talk about you know this ah muslim theocracy and I'm like you know what else is awful is that in Iran you know they're still hanging gay dudes from cranes by the neck until dead and then they leave them there in the public square like it's 1500 but we don't talk about that again because we're all supposed to be good little allies and that's not true because.

01:26:35.30
thatsdope
Wow! Yeah yeah I agree with that like ah shit Yeah, we got a lot to talk about next time. But yeah, like this is great. This.

01:26:40.67
Leezus
Allies challenge each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it it never ends but that's but that's because you're curious if you're not curious. You're like Wow it's interesting and if you're if you're curious. It's wow I We have a lot to talk about next time.

01:26:50.33
thatsdope
Yeah, like definite way I Yeah I mean shoot bro like this. There's a lot of things like you brought up. But honestly, it's been a pleasure to talk with you I mean you, you he you should have all podcasts I think like you you, you're really good. Oh.

01:27:01.41
Leezus
Actually like all white dudes I did do one and during the pandemic and I loved doing it but I didn't have a good concept and I didn't have a partner so I ran out of steam. But I love it Love doing it anytime.

01:27:09.52
thatsdope
Ah I feel it well hey I would love for you to be on the podcast more like definitely. Ah I got bring you back I've been talking I have a partner on here Josh like so you know maybe got talk to him next time to no different guy. yeah yeah yeah I was like I don't think so yeah, no, but ah yeah.

01:27:20.80
Leezus
Is it the Josh that I know. okay okay I was like nice. Okay.

01:27:28.12
thatsdope
Bro though this was a fantastic talk like ah work. Yeah, definitely got to have you back? ah because we I feel like we just started talking but I mean for sure I'mma talk to you after this. But anyway so do you want to be found online or.

01:27:29.20
Leezus
Um, yeah, any sound dude.

01:27:42.74
Leezus
Yeah, um I I recently deleted some of my social media because I used to work in tech and I just get really upset with the privacy stuff and it's just gotten when threads came out I was like why am I participating in this I do still have what is formerly known as Twitter and x you can follow me there at Lee Underscore H Underscore Henry

01:27:50.26
thatsdope
Yeah, yeah.

01:28:00.59
Leezus
Um, I mainly tweet about film stuff Comic books sometimes and then just culture shit. But yeah.

01:28:06.70
thatsdope
Do do cool bro. It was an absolute pleasure and definitely like ah I hope everyone enjoyed this episode I really did. There's so much to talk about and I love to hear what you guys have to think about ah, what was said yeah and also well I got a lot of things to go check out I got Michael Clayton up ah at least I'm trying to figure out where you can go watch it but I'm excited ah ah dumb yeah we missed out I didn't even know it like it was I feel like I've always heard about it.

01:28:26.25
Leezus
I'll send you a copy. It's in bargain bins all over because people are idiots. Ah well hang on you were you were 15 when it came out and it was not a thing targeted to you and it didn't make any money you're fine. Yeah, ah.

01:28:37.00
thatsdope
Okay, bless. Okay I'm not part of a costka. But yeah, yes, finally, but dude it was absolute pleasure and definitely got bring you back on everyone in listening presate y'all stay dope. Everyone peace.

01:28:43.63
Leezus
Part of the problem. Yeah.