Zach Diamond 0:03 Welcome to the modern classrooms project podcast. Each week, we bring you discussions with educators on how they use blended, self paced and mastery based learning to better serve their students. We believe teachers learn best from each other. So this is our way of lifting up the voices of leaders and innovators in our community. This is the modern classrooms project podcast. Toni Rose Deanon 0:28 Hello, and welcome to episode 183 of the modern classrooms project podcast. My name is Toni Rose Deanon, they them pronouns, a designated hype person here at MCP. And y'all I am so excited because we have a sophomore in high school. So we have a student perspective here as a guest, Sarahya College. And so I'm just so so so, so excited to have this conversation because I love students and I love hearing your experiences. So welcome Sarahya It is so exciting to be in this face with you. And thank you, thank you so much for saying yes, the podcast before we get started. What is bringing you joy currently? Sarahya College 1:06 Okay, so honestly, I'm just really enjoying the sunshine and how nice it's been recently. And spring breaks coming soon. So I'm really looking forward to that. Volleyball is going on right now. So I really enjoy that. And it's just kind of been one of my outlets right now throughout school. So just go with the flow right now. Toni Rose Deanon 1:24 Yeah, staying active. Your mom was saying how busy your schedule was. So we're actually recording on a Saturday morning. So it was kind of I thought my schedule was busy. But yours is like all over which is really, really exciting. So sorry, go ahead and tell us more about who you are as a student as a human being and then how your learning and school journey is going so far. Sarahya College 1:45 Yeah, so my freshman year was very, very easy. I've always been a really hard worker and always wanted to pursue to be the best. And I didn't like setting for like mediocre standards or any of that. And I always would reach for the air reach for 100%. And when I wouldn't get that I'd be very, very upset. I got to sophomore year, and wow, did things change. Testing got so much harder. The learning was a lot more fast paced. And I was honestly very, very overwhelmed the beginning of the year. And I slowly just had to realize, yeah, I'm not perfect. And I just had to accept that and realize, yeah, no, I can just accept the best I can do. And that's basically it. Toni Rose Deanon 2:30 Are you saying that high school is a lot better than middle school? Would you say that? Sarahya College 2:36 I most definitely would. Yes. Middle school is definitely like, it's important, but it's not as important. It's a lot easier to do well, and it's just kind of more enjoyable High School, you kind of get smacked in the face with a lot right away. Toni Rose Deanon 2:51 Yeah, that's, that's so interesting. I definitely like I taught middle school. So I really loved the middle school, school age, but then something I'm realizing is that high school are just big old middle schoolers. Like, yeah, so it's like lots of different experiences. And also similar experiences. So this is again, this was really, really exciting for you to be on here. Just to tell us a little bit about your, your life as a student. So how many classes are you taking? Sarahya College 3:22 Okay, right now we do seven classes, I do have one RVA course which is online, very much self paced, and that's US history. I'm only taking one AP class this year, and that's AP Spanish, but that's honestly not too hard. And then I'm doing algebra two slash precalc. English 10 But biology and just yeah, that's it, I think. Toni Rose Deanon 3:53 Oh my Okay, so you have seven courses, right? And then you also have all of your extracurricular activities that you are participating in, how are you balancing your time? Like that's a lot Sarahya College 4:05 um, that's a really good question. Because the beginning of the school year, I was a mess, I did not know how to balance anything out I would come home, have to do my homework for two hours and then get like five hours of sleep throughout the middle of the second quarter, I realize okay, this is a mess and I need to realize that I can't keep doing it this way because my grades were dropping and all this. Honestly I really invested in a planner and just learning how to schedule everything out evenly so that I can have time for work have time for both of my sports and then have time for school. And I would set timers throughout the afternoon for when I'm on a set specific time for school so that I'm not overworking or like doing too much of one thing and that I have time to rest as well. Toni Rose Deanon 4:54 Okay, so you kind of like getting a hang of it because you didn't Did you have seven courses in middle school so We did two. Yes, you did. Okay, so it's kind of like a similar schedule. Yeah. But with this one, you're saying with like high school, it's just a lot more intense because of the content that you are. You're taking, right? The classes that you're taking. Okay. Okay. Who Yeah, that like I can't. I'm like in my head. I'm like, man, we really did do that as students like, that's a lot. That is a lot on our plate. So. Okay, well, thank you for just like bringing it back to me as well. And so listeners this episode is all about Sarahya's perspective. And so your mom and I were talking and so your mom works for the school district as well. And so, you know, she was one of like our Trailblazers to get really modern classrooms into the schools that she's at. And so your mom mentioned that you were a bit hesitant about our model at first, you know, and you were just like, oh, my gosh, what is this mess? Why, why are we doing this? So tell us about that experience? Sarahya College 5:54 Yeah, so I'm a visual learner. And I've always been like that if a teacher isn't right in front of me, showing me physically how to do it, I would not get into like, I don't get this. I'm not even a try. And when I started my freshman year, and they told me that I would have to do things, learn things from videos, I was like, There's no way because I am somebody who asks a lot of questions. I'm always going up to the teacher and asking more and more questions. If I don't get the slightest thing, then I'm like, out of whack and nothing makes sense. So it's just like, there's no ways you know, work, I need a teacher to be in front of me. I was complaining and come home and be like, Mom, I can't do this. They want me to watch a video, and then have to show it in my tests are always and I was like, why do they do this? It didn't make any sense. But then I slowly realize it kind of is kind of good. Like, there's not really a negative factor of any of it. Toni Rose Deanon 6:42 So and how did you determine that? Because this is often what we saw, I worked with a lot of educators, right? And I often hear from educators like, oh, it's videos, it's videos like this is not really teaching students. And also like, I have a lot of students who don't want to do this, who don't want to watch the video. So then how did for you, as a student, like, tell us about the moment that it shifted to where you were like, oh, wait a minute, this is actually pretty cool. This is something that I actually kind of like, how did that shift for you? When did it shift for you? Sarahya College 7:13 I would say, the middle of first semester freshman year, honestly, I had a teacher, who very much enjoyed the videos. And she's done it for like, probably a few years now. And she was my math teacher, actually. And she would give us like two videos a day to watch. And I was like, Okay, this is really fast. I can't do this, this was a little overwhelming. And then I realized that with the videos, and the fact that the mastery check was super short, and all that I would come home and be able to do things way faster. And I realized, I can get things done at my own pace, and that I don't need to wait for a teacher to show me how to do it. If I want to do it. I can learn it right now. And I think it was really eye opening. Because I realized with my busy schedule, I have time to do this whenever I need to, instead of waiting for a teacher to slowly show me all this stuff, or come right in front of me and shows me and the video is really just I don't even know how to explain it. They tell the lesson the way quicker. Toni Rose Deanon 8:13 Yeah. And I'm guessing because you play sports too, right? You're talking about volleyball. And there are times where y'all kind of have to leave class early, right school early for like games or whatever does that happen? Sarahya College 8:23 It does all the time, especially closer to the end of the school year with like finals and everything. I'm missing school, probably 75% of the time I'm missing like last three periods, honestly. Toni Rose Deanon 8:36 Whoa, that that's a lot. And that's exciting, because you are doing all of these things. And I'm assuming that if you were teachers were implementing the model, you could just grab those videos and learn at your own time. Right? So you're not getting too behind. Sarahya College 8:50 Yes, exactly. And if I'm not in class, I just have a chance to do it. Like let's say on the bus on the way to a meal or a game. I can do it on the bus or while I'm waiting to play and all that and I can just get it done. Toni Rose Deanon 9:02 So okay, follow up question. You said that you love asking questions. How did you balance that out of like, I have this video, I can't really ask my teacher all the questions that I want. How do you How did you create a process for you where you are watching the videos? And you're asking questions? Yes. Sarahya College 9:18 So honestly, what I would do is I would watch the video and as I'm watching the video, write down the questions I have on like a notebook next to me or something if I was doing it at home, so I could bring it to school the next day while I'm in person with my teacher and say, Hey, I had a question on this one subject. Could you help me with that? And then she helped me out on that and then I can bring it back to my work or like the video and be like, Okay, now I get it. Toni Rose Deanon 9:42 Okay, so there's still a process so you're still able to ask your questions. Yes. Okay, good. Good, because we don't want you to not ask questions, and I'm glad that you're able to kind of find that balance so that you can continue interacting with your teachers as well. What What are your friends say like your classmates? Think about watching instructional videos and getting the learning by yourself at your own pace, rather than like sitting and being taught that by teachers. Sarahya College 10:10 Honestly, I think it depends on some of the people because when you're in a classroom that has modern classroom and that you're watching the videos, almost every student or friend that I know, liked it because they kind of switch their perspective on it. Because in middle school, when we weren't doing any of this, we're like, No, I don't want to watch a video, I need a teacher in front of me showing me how to do this. And then freshman year when it switched, and the second semester, we actually had a teacher in math who taught right in front of us, we were like, we want to go back, this is so much slower. It seemed like we weren't learning anything as well. And we're just like, this is way too slow. It doesn't even feel like school anymore. And we wanted to go back. Toni Rose Deanon 10:51 We hear that time and time again. Sorry, like, our students would say, No, we want to go back to traditional teaching. And then they are like 10 minutes into a traditional set. And they were like, nevermind, we hate it. We hate it, we hate it. We want to go back because you're taking too long. And you know, like, these kids are like doing a thing that I'm like now paying attention to them and not paying attention to the teacher. So it's really funny. And so teachers tend to when when their students say like, we want to go back to like you teaching us and lecturing us. So the teacher just like okay, cool. Let's do it. And then the students quickly realize, nevermind, I actually don't like that. That's, that's great. That's great. Okay, so then I thank you for sharing that too. Because I think sometimes our educators need to hear from students, right like that, hey, this is a struggle at first because it's different. And then it's like, okay, get used to it. And then I say, like, Oh, I hate it. But then I go back to what it was before. And then wait a minute, I actually hate that more. And I actually like learning on like, my own time. So it's such a, it's such an interesting journey when it comes to like teaching and learning, right. And so when we think about, you know, self paced, and it seems like you are pretty motivated to learn, right? So you're like watching us on the bus, you're watching it at home, if you don't get time to do it in the classroom, you really take this time to learn on your own and so sorry, what have you learned about yourself with the shift to a to a self paced structure? Sarahya College 12:21 Honestly, I've learned that I'm very much somebody who if I can get it done quickly, I will, as long as I understand, like what I'm doing. If I visualize, if I get this done at this point, then I have time to do this. And I know that if I can do it in a specific time crunch, then I feel more motivated to keep learning instead of like, a teachers teaching in front of me, and then they waste the whole class period to do this. And then I have to go home do homework, I still have questions, I really realized that I honestly kind of prefer learning, separate, instead of like in front of the whole class where I have to ask all these questions and pause. And other people like, oh, my gosh, she's asking another question. Again, if I'm just by myself, and I want to write it down, that it's not as boring to the rest of the students, and I just have time to do it. myself. Toni Rose Deanon 13:11 Oh, I love that self awareness though, right? Like, hey, I have a lot of questions that I'm going to ask questions for me. But then it it's sometimes like you said, it hinders or like gets people being like, oh, my gosh, and another question. Another question, like, I'm ready to get started. But there's so many questions. That's a really great awareness on your part. And so and you're talking about time management, right, like really knowing how to prioritize the things that you need to do. Would you say that that has gotten better for you? Sarahya College 13:40 Definitely, I definitely realized that when I have everything here for me to do, I know how much time I want to spend on different subjects, instead of just spending an hour on math and then 15 minutes on biology or something like that, I realized that when I have all the information right in front of me ready to do it, I can just do everything in smaller chunks, kind of and just plan it out way more evenly. Toni Rose Deanon 14:05 Oh, that's okay. And this is such a great segue to so because now I'm going to ask you like how do you think the skills that you're learning in a self paced learning environment, transfer to the real world? I mean, you're gonna go to college, you have like, really great aspirations. How do you think the skills that you're learning will transfer to the real world, Sarahya College 14:24 I think it really shows the amount of like, individuality you have to have and motivation in yourself, because you're not always going to have a teacher or coach telling you all the time to get this done. Like you have to do it right now. Like, you're just gonna get thrown at it and you just have to know how to do it without somebody watching right over you and telling you everything to do. Like if you go to a job that for a training, they're not going to like watch every single little move and have you restart, like you're just gonna go and you just have to hope that you know how to do it, basically. Toni Rose Deanon 14:55 Yeah, and we have so much information in front of us already. Right? And so If you really wanted to learn a skill you could you just have to like be passionate about it interested, curious and also like motivated to continue learning that skill, right? And so I love this thing about the individuality part, right? Like, okay, I get to really cater to like my learning style, and continue learning with that hindering anyone else, like I am going on my speed and so that that itself is just so powerful, because Sarahya I'm an adult now. And I feel like I'm still working on these skills. And I think I'll forever be working on these skills. Because I just started out so late, like I was in school, when you know, my teachers, and my professors would literally just talk for 45 minutes straight, and then be like, Okay, have fun. Good luck. So I'm learning how to chunk it, like you said, right? Learning how to like prioritize the tasks that I need to do, the whole must do, should do and aspire to do has really helped my own life as an adult. So I'm really excited, you know, to have you as a sophomore being like, oh, I can, I can now like prioritize, I can now manage my time. And I can also figure out what questions I need to ask and advocate for myself, so that I still get those guidance and support and the answers that I need. So great. I love love, love love. This is this is awesome. And so I'm curious to like you, you know, your mom knows about the model really well, like she really knows the model. And so do y'all have conversations about how different teachers are implementing the model? Sarahya College 16:34 Honestly, yes. Sometimes if she's picking me up from school, she'll talk to me, she'd be like, Okay, how does this teacher use it or all of this, and we still do have some teachers that want to stick with the old school, they've been teaching for this long, and they don't want to switch like they're just completely against it. But then there's all these new teachers that want to implement it more. And then you have the students talking about how Yeah, it's so much quicker, it's lighter, it doesn't feel as heavy on your background, all this extra stuff that you have to do when you're go home, going home, doing all this boring stuff on packets and all this. And it's just, I don't know, I think it's lighter and easier. And it's fun to watch. Yeah, yeah. And Toni Rose Deanon 17:15 it's okay, so then question, have you ever shared any of those videos with your mom like that your teachers made and be like, Oh, this is what we're covering or anything like that. Sarahya College 17:24 I definitely not necessarily shared, but I've been in the room and been like, Hey, can you help me with this? And I show her the video? And she's like, oh, yeah, and she can instantly get back to when she learned all that. And she's like, Yeah, it's just like this, this this? Toni Rose Deanon 17:36 Oh, and that's like, the whole, like, that's my push as well, because I've heard time and time again, like, parents and caregivers and families are just like, I don't know, I don't know how to, you know, I don't know what my kids are learning, so I can't help them. And, and I'm just like, if we had the videos, then y'all can sit down and really talk about it. And I and that that's, that's a beautiful conversation that can continue at home too. Right. Okay, so another question, because you were talking about homework prior, right? Like you have two hours of homework, like, there was just a lot of things happening in high school. Do you think that your homework has balanced out with a self paced learning environment? So like, do you think that you have more homework, less homework? And also, like, how do you think your teachers are feeling when they've implemented the model? Do they seem like they're also less stressed? Sarahya College 18:25 I 1,000,000% think that there's way less homework because when you have the videos, and you're in class, it's so much easier to get through it quicker. If you have a teacher that's teaching right in front of you, a lot of times they take up the whole class period, and then you go home, to do all this homework, and you can't ask any questions. If you have the videos and all that you can get it done quicker. And then you can ask questions in class still. And then you have most of the time free time as well. And then the teacher doesn't have to go up to every single individual student and answer all of these questions and they don't have to waste all their time standing in front of you teaching you and waiting for the kids to raise their hand and having to call on everyone individually. It's just a lot smoother, quicker, lighter, and they definitely enjoy it probably more. Toni Rose Deanon 19:16 Oh, man. I yeah, I know, definitely. Like I always had fun in the classroom as a teacher. But that was it. Like, I could tell what my students really liked as human beings, but then I couldn't tell you what they were able to do academically because there were just so many different types. And then I implemented the model and I was like, wait a minute, I know exactly what student A and Student B needs. And so it becomes such a like, I like you said I could breathe a little better. Like it was just like a nice refresher of just like, oh, I can sit back. I can like really take in all the learning that's happening. And then I can go sit with like Student A, and like just share stories and really maybe distract them for like five minutes because I'm bored and I have no thing to do, but then it doesn't distract anyone else. And so I really, Yes, awesome that this is really good to hear from a student's perspective too, because I, again, wholeheartedly believe that like, when teachers are happy students are happy, and then the space is just a lot better, right? You're not stressed, you're not anxious, you're not like upset or frustrated, because there's just a lot more transparency with this model. Like you said, like, I know where I'm going, I know how many tasks and what I need to do to get to where I need to be. And I love that part too. Okay, so listeners, we're gonna take a quick break for an announcement. And when we come back, we'll talk a little bit more about Syria stories and experiences. Zach Diamond 20:42 Either listeners, it's Zack here, just dropping in to let you know that we have our learner series with Screencastify. For you this upcoming week, you can join us for our second session with Screencastify. On Thursday, April 4 at 6pm. Eastern. We're focusing on students as creators in this session. And registration information will be in the show notes for this episode. So check it out there if you'd like to join. Now back to the show with Toni Rose and Sarahya. Toni Rose Deanon 21:13 All right now we're back with Sarahya. Okay, Sarahya, I, this is gonna be a fun little section because now you as a student, right can kind of share with our educators, tips and tricks what not to do what to do. So what would you say to educators who are hesitant about implementing a self paced learning environment? Sarahya College 21:36 Okay, I definitely think do not just throw this at your students without you kind of looking into it at first you have to, I think if you connect to it first and try to do a little example, to see how you react to it. And then you're like, hey, this is actually kind of easy. And then you give it to your students. And slowly but surely, they're stuck to like it. I think in the beginning, there definitely can be like, No, I don't want this, can we just go back here do like, No, this is good, I understand that, it's going to turn out well. And then you're going to be able to connect with your students more and just get on a better level with your students. And I think if you're talking in front of them for the whole time, you'll probably look around and notice that your students, maybe there's somebody sleeping in the back, or it's just taking too long, and just kids already like, I'm ready to do the next period, oh my gosh, I can't handle this. When it's fast paced, kids stay more engaged. And they're not as they're not dreading as much to go to your class. Toni Rose Deanon 22:31 Yes, and that's such a great thing to say from a student to have like, Yo really own this, really know what this model is about before you implement it. Because like you said, students know when you don't know something, which is fine. But it's also like, if you are passionate and excited about it, then your students will be passionate and excited about it. So like really explore it on your own and then make it your own. I love that. And I was also going to ask you like, what, what should educators not do when implementing this model? And you literally just said, don't just like throw it at us and then expect for us to like, know it right? Like, there's gonna be a lot of guidance too. So, love. Okay, is there anything else that you would add for an educator not to do when they're implementing a self paced? Um, Sarahya College 23:20 honestly, don't send your implementing this. Don't just completely ignore your students afterwards. Don't just be like, hey, they have this, they're fine. I'm just gonna sit back, still engage with your students and walk around be like, Hey, do you have any questions? If they don't, then you're like, Okay, I can move on, still acknowledge that they're there, and that they will need help at some point. Toni Rose Deanon 23:42 Oh, my gosh, I Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, thank you. Because yes, you've created this space where students are learning now. But and it opens up your time as an educator. And now this is the perfect time to go and sit with the students and really get to know them as individuals, right. Like I was saying earlier, I mean, I have ADHD, Sarahya. And so I'm always like, I need to be moving, I need to go and like, mess with my students. And so it was just such a, it was intentional, and it was also very playful. And so this is now the time for our educators really like come on, let's let's deepen that relationship with the kids. We're not going to leave them alone. It is not just get on the computer and figure it out on your own. It's like, okay, you get the lesson. But now I'm going to sit here and talk with you and see what you're getting. Right and just want to make sure that you're understanding and also I'm going to pull small groups if need be. So we can have discussion so we can ask all the questions and I can really gauge where you are in the lesson and the skill set right and so I'm so glad I asked you again. We really needed to hear that. And so okay, we're going to shift now. So then what would you say to educators who are implementing the model they are excited about it? They are are interested and passionate and they gone through like the exploration of the model. But then they have students who are hesitant and resistant to the model. What would you say for the educators to like, nurture these students who are hesitant resistant? Because there's nothing wrong with being hesitant or resistant? Right? And how can educators nurture these students to like, basically, to empower them? and own their learning? What do you think educators can do? Sarahya College 25:26 I think depending on the student, if you kind of, let's say, the rest of the students are getting it, they understand it, if you kind of just sit down with them, and maybe they play the video while you're next to them, just so that you know that there's a teacher there, if I don't understand this, and just kind of push them just a little bit. But while you're with them, and understanding like, hey, they might may not like this, so I'm just going to pay a little bit more attention to them just so that they can get going. Toni Rose Deanon 25:51 Yes, acknowledging, acknowledging the fact that like, hey, you know what, you don't like this, let's talk about why you don't like this. And also, I am here as a support if you need to, if you need to ask questions, like you said, right, that thank you, that is actually perfect. Because another thing that I've seen are like, educators get distraught when they hear their students hating this model, right? And it's like, okay, let's, let's take, let's pause, let's breathe. And then let's have conversations with those students. And so like when I visited schools at your district, sorry, I talked to students who are like, Oh, I hate this. This is I this is I hate this model. And I was like, Thank you for sharing that feedback. And let's talk about why you why you hate it. And then like having a conversation with students about why they hate it, it's like, oh, well, because I can't talk to the teacher or I can't, you know, do this or can't do that. And I'm like, Okay, well, as a student with a voice, are you able to share these concerns with your teachers? And the answer is always like, Oh, wait, I guess I could do that. And it's like, yeah, so we all have the power to do that. And I think, again, as educators, we can create this power this like space as well to empower the students to advocate for themselves, right? If they say, like, hey, I really, like I don't, I'm struggling with this model. I hate this model, because A, B, C, D, and then working together to create a space, that's a lot more. That feels a lot better for everyone involved. Right? So it's like really just having those conversations. Okay, so then, if you could tell educators, anything, anything doesn't have to be about self pacing. What do you think it would be? What would you tell educators who are listening to this podcast? I mean, school leaders are also listening, what are you what, what would you tell them as a student, as a sophomore, as a student athlete, Sarahya College 27:53 I would say, the biggest thing is get to know your students, because everyone has their different ways of learning. And there might be this one kid that gets it done superduper fast, they never have questions. They're insanely smart, they love it. But then you could see somebody that is a little quiet in the corner, you can tell they're struggling, but you're not going to go up to them. If you know that student. While you might know, Hey, maybe I just come around, ask them a few questions if they need help or anything. Because if you don't know your students, what's the point of teaching them? If you're going to be a teacher without actually knowing the person, you're not really succeeding in what you're trying to prove? And being a good teacher? In my opinion. Toni Rose Deanon 28:34 You and I both have the same opinion. And you're right about the whole creating that relationship. And sometimes I think it's scary to create relationships with folks who are who looked different than us who have different experiences, right? For folks, it may be scary. And I always say embrace that fear. And just say like, Hey, tell me more. So then there's no assumptions, right? Like, Hey, I see that this is a struggle for you. Tell me what's going on. And so I think, you know, just starting those conversations, and with self pacing, and I know, I'm plugging the self pacing in, right, like teachers have more time to really sit and get to know their students. And so I appreciate you saying that, as a student, do you do you also believe that school leaders should also know their students? Sarahya College 29:25 I do. Yes. For sure. Toni Rose Deanon 29:28 Yeah, it's really great. Because when I was doing the school site visits with your mom, she just knew so many of the students and you know, and of course, it's because like, you go to the school as well. And so like, they know who you are. And it was just like, so dope for her to be so excited to see the kids and then also the kids to be so excited to see her and so that it's just a beautiful thing, right. Okay, so, what do you hope to see in the future and what goals do you have what can we what are we looking forward to it Sarahya? Sarahya College 29:59 I think in the future just to have school not being as much of a drag, like you get to school and you're excited, because you will have all this free time after watching all these videos and like doing all these, the shorter learning and you can kind of just connect everything together in the end. And then you see students more excited to come to your class, they're talking more they're not in their little desks in rows, just sitting there with a paper with paper and pencil just like I don't like the idea of school being just you're sitting there learning you go home to do more school after those eight hours more learning, I want like, more rest more relaxation, we're liking your teachers talking to teachers talking to your friends, and it's just lighter on you, Toni Rose Deanon 30:45 I think. And we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna do that we're gonna manifest that. Yeah, we're gonna make that the thing? That yeah, because I also, I think that when learning and teaching is exciting, right? Like, we definitely tend to gravitate towards it more, we get to be more excited. And like you said, lots of collaboration, lots of conversations, lots of joy, and less stress, less anxiety, there's no need for any of that. So I appreciate you saying that. And I know also, after high school, you want to do something with interior design or journalism, right? Like, what are you thinking about that? Like, how do you envision yourself to be in like, five years? Sarahya College 31:31 Um, obviously, I hope to be very successful in whatever I choose to do. I think I'm hoping that with technology growing, that I know how to use everything more. And I'm hoping that with this new model, that it can help you implement all these new growing technologies that we're not still super slow and behind everything that's growing like that. I think. I want to be more open to more opportunities and be able to look back on my high school career and be like, yeah, it was fun. It was worth it. And it was helpful, and it helped me be the person that I am now. Toni Rose Deanon 32:08 Oh, I love that so much. That's so exciting. Well, thank you so much. Sorry, this is just so much fun. I love hearing your experiences and your expertise and just your excitement overall about the model and just being real and vulnerable being like, yeah, no, I hated this. And now it's good. It's actually it's actually really cool. So thank you. Thank you. Thank you again. 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