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No on Twitter instagram or on at Gmail at ah. 00:46.89 programmeral In. 00:57.98 tonycam24 Mccu rewind at gmail.com without the the end is worth this time and with that today's episode is asians the shield season 5 episode 19 option 2 original air date April Twenty Seventh Two thousand and eighteen 01:12.59 programmeral And here's a quick rundown of what happens in this episode the shieldees plan to take the gravitonium they have and hurl it into the sun. There are other shield people in the room at the time just pointing it out because there was no one in the lighthouse the past few episodes. Anyway, the sheldes argue whether killing Ruby was the right decision or not colson ends the conversation and sends everyone on their merry way Talbot starts the episode off by continuously repeating numbers in his sleep when he wakes up he calls for Colson to warn him that when he complied earlier he sent out the location of the lighthouse. And that's right when a big ass alienship shows up because Colson is impatient. The lighthouse goes into lockdown mode covas shows us shows up on the lighthouse screens and he chats with Colson saying he wants the gravitonium. Moving on Colson realizes that the aliens have a teleporter so the lighthouse being in lockdown mode makes them sitting ducks or slowly moving ducks. Either way this is your classic ducks versus horses scenario. Luckily the shieldees are mighty ducks so they can fight back completely. Changing things deqs deq explains that the marauders attacking have claws and bring the darkness to the fight and have the ability to stop electricity like an e and b so you don't have to fight them. Ah or so you don't want to fight them also like horses the shieldes develop a plan to override the controls to the lighthouse and get out. 02:38.87 programmeral But the marauders destroy it like how horses destroy all of your plans while defending the lab talbot gets into the chamber and injects himself with the other 91% of gravitonium that didn't go into ruby and isn't in 1 completely separate capsule after a successful transfer. Talbot now has the power to control gravity and maybe even the power to destroy worlds anyway, right? whens seemed like the shieldees were going to be killed by the marauders talbot shows up to even the odds and save everyone the mighty ducks win again. Talbot ends things by taking himself and colson up to the alien spaceship. And an unrelated part of the story. The candy man gives us even more callbacks to earlier seasons of the show by telling daisy that he got some deathlock tech and says that it was used on John Garrett to keep him alive. It had a component that they got from afterlife so Daisy has to go to her mom's decomposed body and steal it completely separate. Ma and yo you have a heart to heart argument. Oh yeah, that was is yes it was ah yeah that that it true or that that rundown longer than I meant it to be I'm sorry about that? no. 03:34.41 tonycam24 Oh oh I No it's actually not. You may sound heartwaring but was actually quite sad. Yeah. 03:48.15 tonycam24 Yeah, ah since he spent like half an hour on that I guess it's time to move on to our fast facts. Ok all right? So what's your fast fact now. 03:52.80 programmeral Yeah, these these will be quicker I don't promise that but I'm I'm gonna make that statement I have two actually. Ah so the first one. Um, so at some point fits says that. 04:04.82 tonycam24 Ah. 04:11.65 programmeral They will know when they change the future when Deak blinks away from existence. Um, unfortunately that's not how time travel stuff works in Marvel stuff like if if they change the future like your your matter is still there. You're not you're not god um although I guess. 04:21.22 tonycam24 Um, if. 04:29.45 programmeral It probably happens sometimes depending on who's writing it and and all that stuff because I can think of 1 thing I know of where that did happen. So all right ever mind. But yeah, that's that's something to to know? yes I am yeah and I will be complaining about that. A lot later on. Yes. 04:37.33 tonycam24 Are you talking about something we haven't covered yet. Okay I think I know what you're talking about. 04:48.33 programmeral And then the other fast fact is the candy man mentions quote all this weird stuff happening in New York so he's referencing the beginning of Avengers's infinity war the essentially the opening the opening fight that we saw so you know if you're curious. 05:01.40 tonycam24 A. 05:04.94 programmeral About that. We just covered the past 3 episodes all that so feel free to go listen to that if you haven't already. 05:11.70 tonycam24 Yeah I mean in this little thing called Infindi War I I'm assuming because this episode aired one day after Infindi War I came out ah and they knew that everyone in the world who watches agents a shield. 05:23.72 programmeral Um. 05:27.27 tonycam24 Had seen that movie in the previous night yeah 05:27.89 programmeral Oh yeah, I'm I'm sure. Yeah or or they were seeing it that day and we'll be watching this episode of agents a shield later on like the day after or something. Yeah. 05:40.65 tonycam24 Yeah, all. Alright so I'm gonna start mine with the title which originally just guessing without watching the episode I said that um because I remember this was the episode when Talbot gets his powers. So if it's not. Daisy ending the world talt's option number 2 but in a much better turn of events this call option 2 because Colson doesn't wait to hear the whole menu on the call. 06:01.38 programmeral Um. 06:09.62 programmeral Yeah, well and he hits option 2 right? because option 3 was the alien invasion. Okay, yeah, so what? What do you think? what would would have happened if they had gone with option 3 06:16.24 tonycam24 Yeah, let's yeah, you have option 2 was ah nuclear winter. 06:29.24 programmeral Because because option 2 is are go into complete lockdown mode and wait I think he said 50 years or something so what do you think? the lighthouse would have done if aliens if if if he had selected the proper option of alien invasion. 06:31.13 tonycam24 Um. 06:32.80 tonycam24 Yeah. 06:45.52 tonycam24 Um, ah shot missiles. Ah upload a virus. Um, ah what? what other ways have aliens been defeated in movies. 06:58.90 programmeral Um, okay now when you said upload a virus I Assume that's computer virus Independence day. Also it could be biological virus. Yeah, that's an option. Um. 07:03.50 tonycam24 Yes, oh yeah, War the worlds. Yeah. 07:13.10 tonycam24 Oh ah, playing like old timey music like Mars de. 07:15.40 programmeral Oh that's right? Yeah, that's a good one. It's a good good way to to win that war. Yeah, okay, yeah, okay so that they had some options. It was probably all of them just just to be safe right? because you don't know different kinds of aliens. 07:22.54 tonycam24 Yeah. 07:31.97 tonycam24 Um, you are a talked about in your intro about ah all the references that candy man makes to season 1 pretty much centipede Garrett Deathlock ah we also get not from candy man. Ah. 07:39.45 programmeral It it. 07:47.67 tonycam24 That their plan is to shoot gravitonium into the sun which is what they both used to believe um that Shield used to do to like a wait force that were too dangerous. Yeah. 07:50.44 programmeral Yes. 08:00.19 programmeral Ah, oh that's right I completely forgot about that. Yes, all right? cool. 08:07.28 tonycam24 I'm sure that much gravitonium would have no effect on the sun. If. 08:15.49 programmeral That's what I was curious about right? like it's I don't know it seems to be insanely powerful um in theory. Yes, yeah, but like in theory this. Whoever. 08:19.47 tonycam24 I mean I get granted the sun is huge. 08:30.94 programmeral Ends up with probably this gravitonium is the person who can destroy worlds right? which they saw the effect of this later so like Gravitonian like if gravitonium is it destroyed when it ends up on the sun. Will it just. 08:35.92 tonycam24 Um, and. 08:47.14 programmeral Do do nothing I don't I don't know it feels like I Yeah, that's an option. Yeah. 08:50.20 tonycam24 I Feel like it could cause cause like a black hole or something. Yeah, um so talba gets his powers this episode and we see ah that ah. 09:07.30 tonycam24 And like 1 of the last scenes you see blood smeared on the gravitonium case to reveal his super hero or super villain name as graviton al what do you know about graviton in the comics. Okay, ah grab I guarantee you've heard this name before. 09:10.13 programmeral That. 09:17.90 programmeral Not a thing I've probably heard the name before and that's it. 09:26.21 tonycam24 Roughly six years ago when we started this podcast um because in the comics Graviton ah, the his civilian name was Franklin Hall so the episode where Franklin Hall was um, talk about I'm sure I brought up this easter egg yeah, ah. 09:28.68 programmeral Oh. 09:40.11 programmeral You probably did Yes, Okay, oh. 09:45.56 tonycam24 Yeah, that was even before this episode dropped aired so we didn't know that gra the return of graviton ah, but yeah, he was franking the home in the comics he was in avengers number 158 in January Nineteen Seventy seven and his look is like. Long hair. So not exactly like Talbot but he's got a bushy beard and a blue shirt in a cape which he will probably get a cape soon? Um, but he's he was a mad scientist who had an accent and then could control gravity gravitonium wasn't the thing in the comics. Um. But he was defeated by the avengers and sucked into another dimension. He came back then he was defeated by the thunderbolts and sucked into the same dimension and then he came back again and he was defeated by the hu kinsocked into another dimension so he doesn't have a great track record. 10:34.25 programmeral No no, he really does not okay, well let's see if if Talbot ends up in another dimension. 10:38.43 tonycam24 Although I yeah I mean I'm hoping that he doesn't because I don't remember where he goes. Ah I I hope he ends up in the dimension and he comes back in the thunderbolts. Yeah. 10:44.13 programmeral Same oh that'd be cool. We'll see what happens in a few episodes. 10:56.28 tonycam24 And finally we have superhero landing number 151 ah 1 of the alien people the remorath do an unnecessary backful or front flip into the control room when they finally break in and land the superhero landing. So I think he did just to get on my list. 11:10.40 programmeral Ah, okay I think so yes, yeah, that was that was specifically the plan. It wasn't in the script or anything but it looked cool so they they kept it in. Yeah. 11:14.12 tonycam24 Yeah, um, yep, all right? Let's move on to our Heroes Al I client of everywhere in these notes So where do you want to start. 11:30.84 programmeral Yeah, um, let's let's start with um oh boy. Ah, it's a little hard because these characters all interact with each other so I'm just I'm going to go chronologically at the beginning we have a bunch of characters all arguing with each other. 11:46.89 tonycam24 Okay. 11:48.85 programmeral For the most part about whether killing Ruby was the right thing to do or not. 11:54.61 tonycam24 Yeah, they're all mad at yoo for or most of them are mad at Yoo for killing Ruby I think fits is on yoyo side. But that's not great. Um, what. 11:57.35 programmeral Some side with her. Yeah. 12:09.53 tonycam24 They kill a lot of people. 12:12.96 programmeral Yeah I mean we don't see it that often. Um, then again there are a lot of times where they're using Bullets instead of icers and those are times where I think oh they could be using an icer. But no, they're choosing to go with the lethal option. So. 12:19.88 tonycam24 Earth. 12:27.88 tonycam24 Yeah. 12:30.77 programmeral There's that but yes they do they get a lot of people. 12:32.93 tonycam24 Yeah, why is this the other than the fact that they want drama for the episode. Why is this the thing that they're all up in arms about. 12:46.41 programmeral I Can't think of a reason. Ah I mean well okay I Actually ah because that character ruby. 12:57.33 tonycam24 Um. 12:57.46 programmeral Was a named character. Not some red shirt that ah they can just kill a bunch of yeah. 13:01.54 tonycam24 Well her shirt was red after you who killed her but dump. Um, yeah, yeah. 13:07.26 programmeral Yes, yes, it was ah yeah, no I'm with you right? like I don't I don't think of a I can't think of a a specific reason I mean I guess. I guess really what it comes down to is in that moment when yo-yo killed her. It was a cold blood thing like she just saw her and immediately went for the kill ah versus the I don't know I guess the the jedi code of don't kill unless you absolutely have to like you know at the moment at that moment in time Ruby wasn't. 13:35.21 tonycam24 Ah. 13:38.34 programmeral Attacking them so they didn't need to kill her kind of thing. 13:43.52 tonycam24 Yeah I mean I had this problem ah a couple weeks ago when I just wanted the shieldes to be completely cut throughout. Um, but just like I who said i. 13:48.55 programmeral Now. 13:54.52 tonycam24 I Take yo-yo side whose side. Do you take in this situation. 13:58.42 programmeral Ah, okay I mean. 14:02.14 programmeral Yeah I guess I don't know they they know exactly what's going to happen that at some point the person with all this gravitonium will destroy the planet I guess so I don't it's hard to see how Yoyo was wrong in this situation like. 14:12.29 tonycam24 A. 14:21.59 programmeral Ah, then again, they never saw anything with Ruby and again they also never saw anything with Talbot but here we are like we as the audience have seen ah that drawing from Robin already basically saying it's it's Talbot and hey he gets those powers this episode. So there's that um so it was kind of a. 14:31.47 tonycam24 Yeah. 14:41.10 programmeral Done for nothing but they don't know that so I it's it's hard I I guess yeah I I do I don't fault yo-yo for doing it I think that's that's the most definitive answer I can come up with. 14:41.65 tonycam24 Oh. 14:55.28 tonycam24 Yeah, what about yo-yo's argument saying that ah Colson should have left daisy in the future. 15:00.70 programmeral That one I I mean it's that one I don't agree with as much because this is all time travel stuff that we don't know and they don't know right like yo Yo doesn't know like okay. 15:10.56 tonycam24 Ah. 15:15.88 tonycam24 Um, yeah. 15:19.29 programmeral At that moment in time. The assumption was that Daisy is the one who destroys the planet but they didn't know that per a fact, it's just rumor right? It's it's something that people had said that it was always daisy quake johnson and I I don't agree with yo-yo in the fact that she wanted. 15:23.25 tonycam24 Okay. 15:38.42 programmeral To leave daisy in the future because they didn't know that for sure they they they know very little so like yeah, it's not and from what we know now again seeing the premonition from Robin basically drawn out. It looks like it's probably not daisy so that's good wou. 15:55.60 tonycam24 Well yeah I I'm on the mentality is like the worst thing that can happen is the end of the world right? So you need to start making sacrifices. 15:57.73 programmeral Yeah, yeah. 16:05.26 programmeral Yeah, yeah. 16:14.33 tonycam24 if if Daisy's left in the future. That's a change so there's a chance that things would get better. Yeah. 16:25.55 programmeral That's true. There is a chance. Is it a good chance. We don't know right because they just lost one of their heaviest hitters. Also a a tech person too right? So they they lost the the dual classing character over there. 16:32.75 tonycam24 Um, a. 16:39.22 tonycam24 Yeah, but they got deak So that's a net gain. It not. 16:41.27 programmeral So Also yeah, ah, that's it's something. Yeah, um, yeah exactly I mean it's you know I think we talked about something like this. Ah. 16:54.00 tonycam24 O. 16:59.71 programmeral Couple weeks ago when there was the the decision that fits was given of either put that machine together or ruby was going to kill Simmons right? Like yeah I mean in in their minds. They're invincible but also they still have to do it. So. 17:07.34 tonycam24 Oh yeah, yep. 17:17.77 tonycam24 Oh. 17:19.20 programmeral In his mind he he has to do it otherwise she dies and he's he's not going to sacrifice her I assume so is yeah that part 2 Yes, so you you want to break the loop in a different way preferably. So. 17:28.28 tonycam24 Also if they somehow break the loop. They are no longer invincible. Yeah, um, so yeah, so after this gilio has like a talk with Mac and a talk with may. Ah. Mac kind of like he's not sure he can forgive yo yo for killing ah someone um Mac who killed Gordon famously. Ah, but he wasn't fear pure human. So I guess max cool with it. 17:55.92 programmeral It was also mid fight like Gordon was trying to kill him at that moment in time. But yes, yeah, which which is again what I keep going back to like all right. It's okay to kill mid fight. But when it's. 18:08.11 tonycam24 And um. 18:14.35 programmeral You have a break from the fight in between matches then that seems to be their moral code. 18:23.38 tonycam24 Okay I don't agree with themroll code. But okay, yeah, um, but this reminds me a little bit of. 18:28.87 programmeral Um, same. But yeah. 18:36.41 tonycam24 Ah, what we talked about in Infindi War where cap and vision are talking about whether or not they can trade lives though. Max says any life is or we should strive not to kill anybody which you know is a great moral code when the stake of the world's not or when the world's not at stake. 18:40.74 programmeral Nothing. 18:53.88 programmeral I Mean yeah, it's it's good to not kill people I agree with that statement. Avoid it as much as possible. Ah, yeah, exactly as Mac knows just like you call that when he killed gordon. 18:55.76 tonycam24 Yeah, but sometimes unavoidable. 19:08.23 tonycam24 Yeah, all right? So she also talks to may. Ah and I get like this little insight into may she talked about ball rein and what she had to do killing the little girl The little Inhuman girl. Um because it not only changes. 19:18.70 programmeral It. 19:26.70 tonycam24 You as a person because it does but it also changes how people see you so yo Yo unlike may think she's completely in the right, but she needs to adjust that other people might not see her that way. Yeah, all right? and then she goes for my Yoyo section then she goes good. 19:27.83 programmeral In it. 19:37.14 programmeral Um, there. 19:45.39 tonycam24 To get catal bit and that's my last note for Jez Yoyo 19:47.68 programmeral Yeah, yeah, exactly yeah her her mission is to get Talbot out and keep them safe and all that because as as the shield base they're planning to evacuate I guess as soon as they can. Yep. 20:03.60 tonycam24 Yeah I'm sure is going to be easy. Yeah, ah I have Phil next unless you want to go somewhere else. 20:05.24 programmeral Yes. 20:16.43 programmeral Um, yeah, let's talk about him. 20:19.00 tonycam24 I well in the middle of that big argument in the control room Phil takes control and stops shuts the argument down which was good. Ah good on him. 20:22.60 programmeral E. 20:28.67 programmeral yeah yeah I had a note about that actually like this is him showing that he knows when he needs to be a tough leader right? because he said he else to everyone? Yeah, um, what was it I made that decision and I'll be making the rest for today. It's over go do your job so like he he knows like okay this at this point we've. 20:32.39 tonycam24 A. 20:45.50 programmeral Kind of crossed the line like we need to do our jobs we we need to like fix. Whatever it is. We're we're trying to fix So like yeah, he's he is a good leader. 20:53.44 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah, ah and when you say he's making decisions. He does make a decision when Rick Stoner tells him that they plan for the in the world. He decisively picks option 2 ah option one being weather disaster option three we don't know so he ah. 21:04.58 programmeral Mean. 21:11.60 tonycam24 Um, do nuclear events Probably the closest thing who would ever expect Alien invasion to be on there. 21:12.50 programmeral Probably yeah yeah I mean Alien Invasion is probably like the most random of the items right? Whether okay I guess you can make some assumptions like I guess with weather really, you're just. 21:23.20 tonycam24 Who. 21:30.32 tonycam24 No. 21:30.60 programmeral Going into lockdown mode for like a month I guess ah nuclear fallout. Okay lockdown mode for years alien invasion I don't know if you even need to go in a lockdown mode for that right? because that's that's just going to be a grab bag of potential defenses and offenses. 21:46.44 tonycam24 Um, well now that we're talking about this here earlier a different answer maybe in the invasion is another lockdown but just assuming the earth is destroyed and they have to float in space for upwards of 70 years 21:48.42 programmeral Oh okay. 21:57.87 programmeral Oh yeah, okay so different forms of lockdown. Okay, a makes sense. 22:02.64 tonycam24 Yeah, ah that that was probably ah what Rick Stoneor's plan is just like ah intruder on camp on site lockdown ah ran ah ran out of mustard lockdown yeahp. 22:12.55 programmeral You you. And that's why he got paid the bid books. 22:21.50 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah, he I think he invented the world word lockdown. yeah yeah I mean no one's going to Google that. So ah, yeah, so they're locked down for 15 years I wrote that down. 22:24.15 programmeral Oh okay I can't prove it. But I think you're right? yeah. 22:33.71 programmeral That's right. 22:38.33 programmeral Oh okay, all right. 22:40.16 tonycam24 50 I love Colson's announcement it's like yep, there's aliens above we may be locked down for 15 years ah it's fine guys. 22:53.50 programmeral I Mean yeah, there's always an override of some sort So I'm sure he wasn't that worried about it. 22:55.76 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then after announcement. Ah, the aliens do a Zoom call. Ah Covas calls them. Yeah and he tells them. Yeah. 23:09.94 programmeral Um, yeah, pretty much. Oh yeah, go ahead? Yeah yeah. 23:13.92 tonycam24 Yeah Colson tells them the truth that they're locked down and someone hopefully will blow them out of the sky. This is something I've had a problem with in infinity war and here there seems to be a lack of air support. 23:30.75 programmeral Ah, well yeah, pretty much um I mean I guess it comes down to your organization right? like the avengers are super people people with powers essentially and some of them. 23:40.44 tonycam24 Ah, oh guess. Ah. 23:48.99 programmeral Can fly right? We've got you know iron man war machine falcon thor maybe Wanda I did at that moment in time she can she she propels herself in a way. Oh vision. That's pretty much it. Um, so that's that's. 23:57.46 tonycam24 And yeah, um. 24:08.21 programmeral Pretty much they're here with the shieldies or shield in general, it's it's all vehicle stuff they have. They're essentially a small military force. Um, but they don't They don't contact other organizations. 24:16.70 tonycam24 Um, but yeah, yes, but there's an alien above us soil here and in New York and we do not see jet scrambled. 24:26.90 programmeral Um, yeah, yeah. 24:29.53 tonycam24 We don't see last time I remember seeing Jet scrambled at all was the british army in or British Air Force in Thor the dark world. 24:43.11 programmeral Yeah, that's true. Um, yeah, there weren't jets in Captain America the winter soldier. Oh that's right? Yeah, okay, yeah, you're right? Yeah lot of. 24:50.55 tonycam24 Well, there were supposed to be but the warning soldier destroys them. 25:00.48 programmeral But air support being lacking in things. 25:03.11 tonycam24 Ah I was going to bring that up with the infinity war in the Valley Wakconda where like where is the Wakandan air support but it did get destroyed probably like months ago or weeks ago in the Wakandan Civil war. 25:15.64 programmeral Yeah, I'm not too sure what the timeline is on that. But yeah, if it was just a couple weeks ago. They they've got some time to like before they I assume that they they can be back up to speed. Um, if it was a year ago and that's a whole separate thing because a movie took place like. 25:25.73 tonycam24 Yeah. 25:34.92 programmeral I mean the the beginning of that movie was the chichaka's funeral right? So so which would have been very soon after the events of civil war which was like ah at least a year I don't I don't know what the timeline is. There's a book coming out soon. That's the official. 25:37.99 tonycam24 Um, who was him. Yes. 25:54.48 programmeral Timeline of the mcu I already preordered it. So I yes I will be looking forward to that to see all of this but I think it's it's it's within the next few months yeah 25:54.84 tonycam24 Oh really. 26:02.99 tonycam24 Hopefully hopefully has he has everything including Shield because I want to know how all this breaks down which it won't. 26:10.53 programmeral I'm sure it won't yeah yeah, exactly Oh but we'll see. 26:11.76 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah, yeah, but the military does not show up here or in New York so sucks for them or maybe it does and we just don't hear about it because they're like alien shielding and shit. 26:24.16 programmeral You? well? Well yeah I mean the other thing also is timing right? like you know, a mill is air force showing up takes some time to get there. Um, you know with the stuff in New York that was like. There was the 1 scene in New York right it was right at the beginning alienship showed up. There was some skirmish and then the ship left and that was it right? We we don't see it New York again in in the movie and and all of that like that's I don't know maybe maybe an hour like even maybe even. 26:45.37 tonycam24 Ah. 26:48.29 tonycam24 Get. 27:00.39 tonycam24 I would like to believe if aliens came down for 20 minutes we would have America who spends this much on defense would have something scrambled within that time. Yeah. 27:01.11 programmeral Ah, half hour right that's possible 27:13.48 programmeral I Would like to believe that too. But I don't know so far like given what we've seen in the Mcu There's no proof that that's how that works. But. 27:20.11 tonycam24 Well I mean most of their I Wonder it's hard I was going to say that they probably spend less on defense because they have the avengers. But also all these other Alien things have been coming out. So Maybe they have to spend more on defense. 27:37.59 programmeral Yeah I mean considering what Hale has access to and she's I mean Hydra but she's still part of a military force. She she has access to quite a lot. Yeah, so yeah I feel like they get. 27:42.89 tonycam24 Are. 27:49.73 tonycam24 Um, the air force. Yeah, um. 27:56.80 programmeral A lot of funding for potential defense of things i' I'm I'm sure after the events of the avengers after the the battle of New York there was a renewed sense of spending on the military. Yeah. 28:05.64 tonycam24 No yeah, yeah because I'm always fascinated that in the course of a year like iron man like stopped all world war all war around the world because they say an iron man too. 28:19.68 programmeral Yeah I mean he he says that but that's that feels like more of a marketing spin. Oh yeah, yeah, definitely there's always going to be conflict. 28:26.67 tonycam24 Okay, he think like ah stopped all the wars that Tony cares about all. Yeah um so Colson finds out that Daisy's gone dark. He kind of. 28:40.97 programmeral Yeah. 28:43.96 tonycam24 Freaks out a little bit and yo yo realizes the head. This is how they lose by spliting you up trying to save Colson um and she she also realized that that she killed ruby for no reason. 28:49.14 programmeral This is. 28:56.73 programmeral Yeah, yeah, so that kind of sucks. But I mean if she didn't yeah yeah, this is ah yeah, exactly? Um, maybe maybe she's a little like now she's. 29:03.27 tonycam24 Depends on your point of view I think I think Yoyo is still kind of okay with it. 29:14.35 programmeral Might feel a little ah sad I guess like okay I guess I didn't have to kill her a little sad about that. But at the same time she was going to be a continuous enemy right? She would keep coming after them and even with just 8% gravitonium in her that was she was pretty powerful. She she was a she would be able to just. 29:23.84 tonycam24 Um. 29:28.31 tonycam24 Yeah. 29:33.96 programmeral Solo Wipe All of the shieldes. 29:37.70 tonycam24 So ah, this is the time when yoo decides to tell the team that future yoo told her to to let Colson die. That's how that's the reason the world ended before. 29:47.90 programmeral Even. 29:50.27 tonycam24 I personally think that yo should told everybody or at least Colson this immediately upon returning. 29:57.98 programmeral Yes, yeah, she shouldn't have felt like when. 30:01.58 tonycam24 I understand not telling may or I mean the rest of the team. But yeah Colson the man who makes decisions. 30:10.26 programmeral Ah, yeah, exactly Well to be fair, he did already say I don't want anyone to save me I want to die this time. So yeah, maybe she was like well he he wants to die I we'll just let him Oh no, they they're not going to let him. 30:17.23 tonycam24 Ah. 30:21.38 tonycam24 Yeah, but maybe. 30:29.25 programmeral Oh no. 30:30.27 tonycam24 Yeah, then yo yo has to actively murder him. Um I like this moment where may kind of says like Robin says a colson will put the pieces together. 30:32.45 programmeral Yes, that's right, That's what she's gonna have to do so. So. 30:45.62 tonycam24 And at that same scene Colson is literally putting the pieces together in his brain saying that the aliens will show up because of their stupid teleportation device where they can get in but can't get out. Yeah is it now this exactly it does it. 30:56.69 programmeral Ah, yeah, that's probably not the exact scene Robin was referencing but oh okay are cool. Ah. 31:04.74 tonycam24 yeah yeah I mean there's only 3 ups left how he didn't have that much time to put pieces together. 31:12.60 programmeral Ah, that's right, You know what once you're Done. You're Done. You can be like you're you're either still putting the pieces together or you're you're not so it it could be this episode could be the very last ah few minutes of the finale. We don't know. 31:27.99 tonycam24 That's ridiculous, all right anything else for Philip Jacobson right 31:36.00 programmeral Ah, no, no, that's it he had ah had a good amount of stuff towards the beginning and then towards the end it was really just try to survive. 31:48.40 tonycam24 Yeah, um, moving on to the Fitz family ah de assuming fits I know is thats same shaw leo fits and gemma fits. Ah they're talking about multiverse theory um deak. 31:57.22 programmeral Yeah m. 32:05.13 tonycam24 Apparently is more accurate to the mccu than than Fitz is so they don't know this yet. 32:12.82 programmeral That's true I mean no one knows they're all just making stuff up. But yes, yeah, ah yes, yes, that's true. 32:17.35 tonycam24 1 yeah within a majority of the mccu. Yeah um, and there ah fits things said as soon as they fix everything deco just blink out of existence. 32:32.97 programmeral Is it. 32:34.77 tonycam24 Ah, which again, not true, but also it doesn't it would cause a bunch of Paradoxes If you just blinked out of existence right. 32:45.52 programmeral Yeah, exactly right? because the I guess the the assumption is oh, he's not here so he was never here. He could never have been here but he's already affected this timeline. So then you it would have to go back to before he showed up but then. 32:52.27 tonycam24 Yeah. 33:04.39 programmeral That he does show up to changed and yeah, exactly yeah ah not the words I would choose to say but something like that. Yeah. 33:04.73 tonycam24 Yeah, that's why time travel's awesome right now. 33:14.60 tonycam24 Oh I'm sorry Chron logical teleportation is awesome right on? Yeah okay, cool. Yeah, um, let's see. 33:17.89 programmeral Oh yeah, definitely when you put it that way. It's It's amazing. Yeah I love it. But. 33:31.35 tonycam24 Ah, the aliens attack and as Zeke is transforming to gravitonium and he hides because he knows this space better than literally any one life because he's lived there his entire life. 33:42.89 programmeral Yeah, and and not just live there like he's survived there his entire life. Yeah. 33:48.32 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah, um, so as the place goes a markdown ah fits fits ah Leo fits. Ah oh actually no fits fits ah split up. That's why I wrote so Gemma Fitz and Leo Fitz go 2 different places. Ah. 33:59.35 programmeral If in. 34:04.78 tonycam24 Dek very against this because he needs them to survive possibly? Um, but ah Leo Fitz goes down ah to level 17 where he thinks to bypass everything with a red shirt and you know what I would think just like I know who the leaders are. 34:07.16 programmeral E e. 34:17.37 programmeral Um. 34:23.20 tonycam24 I know the track record of everyone who hangs out with them only piper and davis survive. Maybe I have too much self-preservation to be 1 of these super spies or in the military or in a police force. 34:27.44 programmeral Yeah, yeah. 34:33.86 programmeral So. 34:41.27 programmeral Ah, yeah, yeah, maybe but yeah, there's a difference right? Yeah yeah, it's not running away at the first side of danger. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 34:42.16 tonycam24 I and I say self-reservation not cowardice. Yeah I don't feel like yeah okay I like I don't feel like defining that difference. But I'm sure there is 1 34:58.46 programmeral I mean running away first sign of danger versus just trying to survive like okay obviously we're going to lose this fight. Let's regroup kind of thing. Yeah. 35:01.28 tonycam24 Better. 35:08.63 tonycam24 Yeah, well in a shocking turn of events that red shirt does get killed and dick saves them ah in a scene that is have you ever played Alien Isolation the Alien and video game. Oh yeah. 35:19.69 programmeral No I I know of it but I never played it. 35:24.82 tonycam24 This scene just for a couple minutes or maybe less than a minute. It feels exactly like that. Ah, and you know what I wish it was more I Wish the whole rest of these season with just them running around the base because that's how long the. 35:29.12 programmeral E. 35:39.24 programmeral And okay and and this is something like just trying to survive when there's this something in the shadows that could kill you at any point in time right. 35:43.90 tonycam24 The game last. 35:51.50 tonycam24 Now. Um, normally that something that's pretty much Immune to all your weapons. Yeah. 35:53.79 programmeral Oh oh yeah, not too true. Yeah because they can shoot them with their guns and that doesn't do anything icers do nothing. Yeah. 36:04.97 tonycam24 Um, luckily hand to hand combat seemed to go really? well. Yeah, yeah, because they have to ah. 36:07.90 programmeral That is good. Yes, lucky for them. So. 36:17.45 tonycam24 Set up like a last stand. We've got Yoyo Gemma Fitz and Talbot in the gravitonian room. We've got everyone except for Daisy who's not on there in the control room. Yeah um so two. 36:21.75 programmeral It. 36:29.98 programmeral Isn't. 36:36.32 tonycam24 Was it davis and Piper who go with yo yo outside the room. Okay, they don't die. 36:40.28 programmeral Yes, yeah, they do because and and the reason I remember that is because ah yeah, yeah, because they don't die there. There was a line what we'll talk about it a little bit later with with Davis but he he had some one off line that they were kind of met a joking in the episode and so they. 36:54.97 tonycam24 Ah. 36:56.61 programmeral They talked about that some more then. But yeah, it was. It was those 3 together. 36:58.16 tonycam24 Yeah, but almost as soon as they leave a Talbot ices simmons and we'll talk about what he does in a minute. Yeah, so our humans. 37:08.92 programmeral Yeah, yeah, because he he can fix this right? That's what he wants to do. He wants to fix it. 37:17.40 tonycam24 The most vulnerable race in the universe because Bullets kill us or at least very much hurt us where they don't seem to hurt any alien at all. 37:23.59 programmeral Um, ah yeah. 37:27.59 programmeral Yeah, that seems to be the the common thing throughout all fiction right? when you when you bring in something else right? like either either Sci fi like this or something fantasy right? like D and d. 37:41.52 tonycam24 If. 37:47.30 programmeral At least different you know races you get like different stat bonuses and some default feats and and skills and all that stuff but humans are like now humans don't get anything but that means you get a bonus because if you specialize like you can choose what to specialize in and that kind of seems to be. 37:49.39 tonycam24 Yeah. 38:05.57 programmeral The the common thing right? like when you look at some Alien Race like yeah, they're all they're they're the warrior society So they're all warriors where do they get all their technology. No one knows because they're only Warriors ah stuff like that right versus humans like you got a range and it's it's it's teamwork and all that stuff. So. 38:10.53 tonycam24 Who. 38:18.19 tonycam24 Yeah. 38:25.20 programmeral Answer your question. Yes, obviously um, but the strength is is teamwork I Guess that's that's all I can think of yeah. 38:26.72 tonycam24 Um, earthen. 38:33.25 tonycam24 Ah, or in Star Trek. Their strength is humanity because humans are the best that that. 38:38.15 programmeral Yeah, something like that. Yeah, that's why all the best Ah, the best captains are always human earthlings earthling humans. 38:45.65 tonycam24 Yeah, sorry is pretty good anyway. 38:48.23 programmeral No yeah, exactly yeah I'm I'm trying to think of like I'm trying to think of different captains like obviously number 1 at the top of everyone's list is Janeway followed. No I'm kidding obviously it's Cisco. Yeah yeah, followed by archer yeah cisco archer janeway. Oh yeah. 39:00.29 tonycam24 By archer are Cisco is the best the best captain? Well I'm drivinging of other captains like we don't see there's no show that follows an unaiiling captain. Ah. 39:07.36 programmeral Yeah, he was yeah. 39:14.89 programmeral Um, Discovery kind of. 39:16.58 tonycam24 Well I was gonna say discovery briefly saru and he he isn't bad. Ah we know Spock is briefly captain sometimes. 39:26.26 programmeral Yeah, was a little back and forth. But even Spock is like the half human side of him so they they're like all right. It's it's kind of and just an overtime like you you can can upgrade him but you got to quickly downgrade him at some point. Yeah. 39:30.55 tonycam24 Yeah. 39:40.16 tonycam24 Yeah, yes, ah spoilers for season 3 at pickcard. So ah, go for 30 seconds I guess war with captain for a little bit and he destroyed one of the enterprises. Yeah. 39:45.19 programmeral A. 39:55.49 programmeral Ah, okay. 39:57.20 tonycam24 So yeah, but humans are good at flying spaceships. Apparently yeah, and so are wokis. Yeah, um, yeah, so ah, yeah, the aliens. Ah. 40:05.23 programmeral Sure Yeah I guess so ah. 40:16.59 tonycam24 The remarathe is what they're called burst in and well as they're preparing Mac gives Colson the shotgun acts and Coson is actually touched. 40:17.56 programmeral In. 40:26.47 programmeral Yeah, he oh he is. He's like oh really? Yes, oh awesome. All right? Ah, yeah, it's um, ah so for ah like a half second I compared that in my mind to um, kind of that scene in. 40:44.90 programmeral Um, was it star wars the force awakens where and I guess spoilers if you're gonna if you you care about that. Ah, for this eight year old movie nine I don't eight 8 years okay twenty fifteen right wow wow okay anyway so because there was a that scene halfway through the film where. 40:47.40 tonycam24 Um, and. 40:54.70 tonycam24 Um, yep, yeah. 41:03.77 programmeral Um, where Hans Solo is like hey chebacca let me let me use your your your bo caster. We finally use it like oh this is awesome should be use of this the entire time anyway and then he dies at the end of the movie and so I was thinking like wait does. 41:14.95 tonycam24 Um, it yeah. 41:18.32 programmeral This colson die here at the end of this episode because that would suck. Oh no, okay, good. 41:22.57 tonycam24 Yeah I genuinely like the fourth awakens I know a lot of people have the problems with it. But ah the one thing I don't believe about that movie is in their forty years of friendship chew. We never let him use zebo caster. 41:25.36 programmeral You. 41:34.96 programmeral Um I agree. Yeah either either. He absolutely never let him use it and so why would he let him use it here or he used it all the time and like it's like yeah sure. So. 41:46.60 tonycam24 Are you saying that? at this point the Han Sodo is going senile and just doesn't remember it. Okay, you hear it here first al said that Hanso was seenile. Yeah. 41:52.84 programmeral That's entirely possible. Yeah. 41:58.88 programmeral No yeah, it it started in. Um, it started really young for him to actually it started in solo. It was halfway through that movie and then it just wet the rest of his life. Yeah. 42:07.39 tonycam24 When when he couldn't remember his last name so they had to give him solo as his last name. 42:15.92 programmeral Yeah, um, a little bit later but I mean that was an early signs of it. Yeah. 42:20.26 tonycam24 Yeah, are ah yeah so Colsson makes may take a gun a useless gun. Um, ah yeah. 42:31.28 programmeral With another callback to that episode. Ah where back in in season 1 episode 2 where she ah said that she if she needs a gun. She'll take it. Yeah. 42:43.43 tonycam24 It's crazy that they're doing all these callbacks to early to season one when we know there's 2 ups 2 at more seasons after this. It's almost like they were preparing for the end of the show. Yeah, um. 42:48.25 programmeral Yes, yeah, crazy. 42:56.58 tonycam24 Yes, but all is lost. They use all the ammo and does nothing to these machines and ah cols is ah knocked down you think he's going to die when a new Hero enters the scene. 43:12.81 tonycam24 But we'll talk about the guy in in that him and guy in the chair. 43:13.50 programmeral Ah, du okay good I was gonna ask I I I meant to actually ask you before we sat down where we were gonna put Talbot. But yeah I guess for now he's still good in in guy in the chair I don't know what we're gonna do with him for the rest of the season. But. 43:24.66 tonycam24 Um, yeah I'm sure he's going to be a good guy right. 43:29.30 programmeral Okay, cool. Well yeah, but like do we leave him guy in the cherry. Do we upgrade him to hear I I don't know well we'll do episode by episode. Okay, it sounds good. So cool. 43:34.33 tonycam24 Well, you know we'll we'll figure out maybe next week yeah all right? Um, so I think this is everything we have done in the base right in the light house. We've got a little bit with daisy off the white house. Yeah. 43:47.37 programmeral Yeah, yeah, exactly I mean for the most part. Yeah, everyone just stayed in the base and tried not to die that was it? yeah. 43:58.13 tonycam24 And everyone except for a couple red shirts succeeded in that mission. Yeah, so Daisy's going to get Robin to protect her um with a secret mission from may to find a way to save Colson. 44:02.00 programmeral That's true, nothing. 44:11.80 programmeral Is it. 44:14.55 tonycam24 Ah, yeah, so she meets up with candy man. Ah so Robin gave him a picture of Sonora when she meets Candyman ah because the blue chick holding her balls. Yeah, and. 44:28.51 programmeral Yeah, that that would have been a cool like so so Daisy knows who she is right? So he so she says to the candy man like something about oh yeah, those are hers like ah he I know that. 44:32.74 tonycam24 What we just? ah. 44:35.29 tonycam24 Here. 44:44.68 programmeral I keep forgetting the character's actual name but and candy man right? That's what everyone calls him. So okay, yeah Cody Ka candy man. So um, like this is one of those things where I kind of wish that they would like I get why they don't write that very often like because as the audience we all know the story. 44:47.62 tonycam24 Tony Candy Tony can 45:04.35 programmeral Ah so why rehash it but I always feel like it always bothers me like I feel like in real life. Maybe you would actually share more details right? like maybe at in this moment of time Daisy would say something like oh yeah I remember who she was sonara I killed her in the future. Those are her balls like she controlled them with their mind. It was crazy. 45:06.53 tonycam24 Ah. 45:23.20 programmeral Ah, yeah, anyway, good thing we're here now. 45:25.13 tonycam24 Ah, yeah I feel like that would open more questions and they are presed on time. 45:29.47 programmeral I know but it would what come on tell the story. It's just a cool story I killed someone in the future I killed an alien in the future. Yeah cool I don't know like come on like he he loves this stuff right. 45:41.78 tonycam24 Um, that's the that's difference between you and Daisy Johnson is you you brag about when you kill aliens in the future daisies like just like whatever it's no big thing. Yep. 45:51.81 programmeral That that's true that is the one difference between us you well the two the hair we have different hairstyles the 2 differences between myself and fictional character Daisy Johnson ah fine 45:57.10 tonycam24 Mr. Yes, fictional superhero Daisy Johnson 46:10.33 programmeral Ah, but yeah, but. 46:12.42 tonycam24 So ah, Cain gives her centipede the last centipede serum from season 1 Ah, but's missing an ingredient. Ah apparently it's jaying. 46:17.88 programmeral Um. 46:28.61 programmeral yeah yeah I and it I guess it all like the storylines fit together because John Garrett was hydra so that you know they were given him hydra tech stuff and hydra did have jaying's blood right? They um. 46:30.73 tonycam24 The here. 46:41.65 tonycam24 Yeah. 46:44.87 programmeral I I always forget that scientist name guy that the Nazi Hydra got whiteha. That's right because he he cut her open however, many times a crazy amount of times to and probably just took a bunch of her blood and all that stuff. So yeah, it makes sense that like yeah, let's experiment with this. Let's see what we can do with. 46:46.18 tonycam24 White Hall who. 46:57.33 tonycam24 Um, yeah. 47:04.18 programmeral Ah, with that. So yeah, okay. 47:05.66 tonycam24 Yeah, my question is why ah Garrett made a serum without the healing factor. 47:16.39 programmeral Ah, maybe he couldn't figure it out. 47:16.64 tonycam24 But you did with all the other one. Maybe this was the first one that's the prototype and 1 guy exploded and didn't get back together so it was like hey we should probably do something about that. 47:20.29 programmeral Yeah, that could be I yeah i. Yeah, well so Garrett was dying right? like he actually was dying right? So his maybe his specific one was yeah this is the one with jayings blood powers or whatever whatever gives it the the healing factor. Like and the other ones like well essentially the one that went into um into deathlock right? Ah Peterson. Um, yeah, like that one doesn't have the healing factor like okay well we can they can experiment with different things right? They're hydra they've got. 47:56.33 tonycam24 Um, yeah. 48:01.10 tonycam24 A. 48:04.23 programmeral And got all the resources of shield at their disposal at at that moment in time to to to play around with. So yeah, sure, let's let's make something a little special for this one guy that who's a little high up in our ranks. 48:19.62 tonycam24 Yeah, it's It's real lucky that. Ah, they went to these shieldes who knew who jaying was to find it because it would suck because the whole point of this is to heal colson. 48:36.65 tonycam24 Yeah, because otherwise or use them as a bomb. 48:38.35 programmeral Yeah, as ah, yeah, Drew yeah. 48:43.39 tonycam24 All right anything else for our Heroes I think we're done. 48:48.88 programmeral Ah, yeah, yeah, I've got nothing else. The only other notes I had we're talking about multiverse stuff. But yeah fits in d we we already talked about that stuff. So yeah I'm good to move on all right? take a quick break now we'll get back into it. Tony. 48:56.30 tonycam24 O act. 49:05.10 programmeral While at a piccannic the other day I happened to cross a substance that can control the weather but I can't control it. It's unstable highly volatile and gooey. What should I do with it. 49:18.34 tonycam24 Um I have no idea now even something clever. 49:21.87 programmeral That's that's right I should call our friends at power injectors. Why didn't I think about them. We're all such great friends anyway, the fine people at power injectors can help you get your powerful substance inside of you effectively giving you superpowers. Are you all familiar with Wanda and Pietro Maximoff when Hydra was trying to give them powers. They didn't call power injectors and look at them now one is pending a contract renewal and the other turned into craven the hunter the worst this worst case scenario is not the outcome they would have gotten if they called power injectors. Next time you see me I'll be able to control the weather or at a minimum the temperature inside my house which is harder than you'd think in a Florida summer use perma code mc you rewind to get a free epidural before the procedure. 50:07.26 tonycam24 Is this because I pointed out that you're not superhero like Davey Johnson yeah 50:13.50 programmeral Yes, that is very specifically why I reach out to these ad partners. Um, before we started recording this? Yes, Yes, yeah. 50:20.10 tonycam24 In I thought like you was within the last fifteen minutes yeah 50:29.19 programmeral But I will be able to control the weather soon I'm sure of it. Yeah. 50:33.46 tonycam24 Can't wait all right moving on to our villains. Um the remarath. Ah the de says the darkness follows them wherever they go and we see that the lights go out. Um and they assume it's from Emp technology. 50:41.78 programmeral Um. 50:51.40 tonycam24 But I think it might be because they're from the upside down. 50:53.23 programmeral Is that is that a thing in the haveset like taking away light where they are oh good. 50:57.42 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah, they they mess with the light and power every time when they're in the upside down huge huge plot point for season 4 51:04.85 programmeral Okay, all right. 51:12.52 programmeral Tony I just I binge all the entire thing within like two or three weeks so like it's all just a blur to me. So oh okay, well have you rewatched it since then oh oh okay, I'll never mind. 51:16.51 tonycam24 Um, oh dude I binged it in two days so So not season 4 51:28.83 programmeral No I meant the the full all 4 seasons from. 51:31.42 tonycam24 No I did rewatch the first 3 seasons in preparation to season 4 and I'll probably watch the first 4 seasons in preparation for season 5 and like 6 years yeah ah good. 51:37.50 programmeral In Oh okay, heart sounds good. Yeah, um, yeah I mean it it makes sense that they have some kind of technology right? fits is is the one who says Emp So assume. They're probably going to not like our technology won't work like our guns but later we see all the guns Work. So I Guess that definitely was not it. 52:01.42 tonycam24 Um, well guns usually aren't electronic. 52:04.91 programmeral Yeah I wasn't sure why he was saying that maybe he was talking about like the icers. Maybe there's something electronic there but he specifically said weapons or somewhat someone said weapons I don't remember who it was was it simmons. 52:11.10 tonycam24 He's talking about lights. Um, yeah, that's true. 52:21.29 tonycam24 Well Simmon says their flashlights won't work anymore. They do run down saying like lights Walkie-talkiess Maybe these ah weapons arms. 52:24.45 programmeral Um, okay yeah. 52:33.49 tonycam24 Ah, presumably Colson and Yoyo's arms would stop working but I don't think that ever happened. 52:39.44 programmeral That's true. Yeah, yeah, they did have a call out. Do you in the episode even goalson said well his hand might not work soon. Okay. 52:45.78 tonycam24 I was thinking that that's the reason Matthew and the charconas was so he could just sit the hand on the pump and even if the hand stops working you still pump it as long as it freezes with a grip. Yeah yeah, um. 52:50.49 programmeral E. Yeah, exactly just keep holding holding on and you're good. Yeah. 53:03.91 tonycam24 Remarath the alien race is named for the remora fish which are small fish that ah follow pre predators and scavenge from their leavings like when Shark tears into something they eat the little shreds they're left around which which match because these are. 53:16.54 programmeral No okay. 53:22.58 tonycam24 Following bigger ah bigger hunters in this case, um Thanos and taking what resources again. 53:34.48 programmeral Yeah I don't know if I say in this case, they're following Thanos but okay there. Um, there's a little bit in next week's episode. They they do mention Thanos next week 53:37.41 tonycam24 Well, that's what they that's so isn't not what they say that they're doing okay. 53:51.71 programmeral Um I didn't I didn't think that these two were related I thought that they actually said something like we can get into it next week um but yeah because it seemed like this was trying to be set up before Thanos and and all that unless there's a yeah. Okay, yeah, we'll do that. 53:57.39 tonycam24 Okay. 54:08.74 tonycam24 We'll talk about next next week but that's that's what they named it after was those fish that go for the scraps after a bigger hunter so I figure if it's yeah. 54:11.35 programmeral This. 54:17.70 programmeral Ah, okay, right? Um, yeah I guess so I just I I went with the you know the description de gave before of yeah these are the guys like they show up and they kill a bunch of people and we give them exactly what they want and we thank them for leaving. 54:33.13 tonycam24 Ah. 54:34.88 programmeral And leaving us alive like that's that's everyone's interaction with them. They don't seem like they hunt for scraps kind of kind of people. 54:42.81 tonycam24 Well, they are because they they gave it. The reason they came to earth in Deq's timeline was because Earth was destroyed already. 54:52.57 programmeral I Guess that's true or they were already there like they are now. But. 55:00.18 tonycam24 Ah, but I mean they're there Cassandos is there. 55:04.79 programmeral All right? Let's argue about this next week I think okay cool are a no, that's I mean they were the villains right? You got covis a little bit but not really yeah I got nothing for him are. 55:09.54 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right anything else for our villainson. Yeah yeah, yeah, are moving on guy in the chair. Ah. Talbot ah, we opened the episode with with him dreaming about the opening the star trek the next generation with all the plans flying by Ah yeah, so I assume I assume for a little bit that the numbers you are counting were like some of the best episodes of star trek I I did not because. 55:30.95 programmeral Yeah. 55:40.82 programmeral Oh did you look any of those up. Oh. 55:45.94 tonycam24 I was going to do it at the end but then they said later it was like the codes although like if like fits did the codes they could be the codes based off the best ups of the Star trek. We don't know. Yeah oh their accord is my bed. 55:56.61 programmeral It they they could yeah those weren't codes though right? those were those were the coordinates of the lighthouse. Yeah before the lighthouse is yeah. 56:05.32 tonycam24 Then then fits established coordinates throughout history to match with the best episodes of Star Trek. Yeah yeah, um, yeah. 56:16.28 programmeral Ah, yeah, that makes sense. Okay, okay. 56:23.40 tonycam24 So yeah, he goes with yo yo we talked about this he shoots Gemma ah while saying the whole time that he can fix this. He can fix this. He can fix it I I did not have faith that he could fix it. Um. 56:32.56 programmeral Nothing delete. 56:38.22 tonycam24 But then he takes all the or 90 what one percent of gravitonium and I don't know if he fixes it but he's on his way. 56:45.41 programmeral Yeah I mean he fixes the immediate situation of them all being attacked by Aliens So there's something if yeah, yeah, that's how the episode ends. 56:49.12 tonycam24 Um, yeah, yeah, and then he goes to talk to the aliens with Colson right. 57:02.19 tonycam24 yeah right ah yeah I think well if you talking a little bit more about Talbot next week 57:04.16 programmeral Know Yeah, yeah, this is this is a you show right? This is his superhero origin story this episode and it's It's just like the other ones right? You know you spend the entire episode you get your powers and it's not until the end that you're actually. 57:12.16 tonycam24 Here. 57:21.70 programmeral Fully start using your powers and looking cool. So it's it's par for the course next week I'm sure it'll be like the second movie that the the superhero gets. 57:21.11 tonycam24 The. 57:30.19 tonycam24 Yep, and then the other guy the chair um Rick Stonener's mustaches awesome anyway, yeah. 57:39.11 programmeral Ah, yeah, he's bad actually I did have 1 other. Ah so Davis right? because we we've talked about about them before um so Davis was talking with. Oh now I can't remember her name. We were piper. That's right because of those 2 are always working together and so um. 57:48.30 tonycam24 Piper. 57:54.32 programmeral There there was a scene where Davis says you know I I got out of there with without with with only a scratch and this is ah and piper is like completely surprised like oh wow like did did you tell anyone else about it like oh no, they're all, they're all busy right? Haileens are attacking all that stuff. Um, but yeah, like it was just. 57:58.33 tonycam24 A. 58:07.99 tonycam24 Um, yeah. 58:13.86 programmeral That part right? There was absolutely hilarious to me I started laughing because I mean this is is it. This is how you eventually become a named hero right? that they're named and they have to keep living but this is how they eventually became one of the main characters in in Shield Um, Spoiler alert. 58:26.70 tonycam24 A. 58:31.82 programmeral Alert that does not happen this season I don't know if it happens later I'm not going to reveal anything for a season 6 or 7 but ah, this season. No, it doesn't happen. But ah yeah, this is this is essentially how that happens um and ah because I mentioned that earlier like hey I know ah that when yo yo. 58:34.74 tonycam24 Um, yeah. 58:51.56 programmeral Was in that you know and that scene fighting with 2 other people was davis and Piper was because piper had a line where well yo yo said that she's invincible and so piper said oh well that makes 2 of you great. So she she was convinced that she would be the one to die. She would be the the standard red shirt of the group but no. 59:02.30 tonycam24 Who. Um, yeah. 59:09.92 programmeral For her. She still ran after that cool. 59:13.93 tonycam24 All right? Ah there let's move on to 12% of the plan if you have anything. Yeah, same here. So al how are we going to rate this episode. 59:18.64 programmeral Ah, no I've got nothing else. How about you. 59:26.15 programmeral Well Tony how many um red shirts turned heroes. Do you give this episode. 59:34.45 tonycam24 I give this episode three and a half red shirts turned heroes unfortunately that half a red shirt. He was going to become a hero then he would cut in half. But ah yeah I mean yeah, it it was good. It was. 59:46.18 programmeral In the life of a Richard. Yeah. 59:53.89 tonycam24 A lot of set up. Um I just want to get up to see what happens with Talbot so and there was a lot of action that didn't go anywhere but was okay. Yeah. 01:00:06.29 programmeral Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm with you there I'm giving it the exact same rating for same reasons right? There was you know I was never worried about shieldes being in danger in this. Yeah, that's that's it I mean especially since. 01:00:15.96 tonycam24 Um, a. 01:00:20.36 tonycam24 Ah. 01:00:25.22 programmeral For the past I don't know how many episodes they've effectively told us okay, these characters you know live. So don't worry about them at all and then yeah, yeah, so that's it ah kind of cool I guess that Talbot got some kind of powers. Yay I guess that was yeah I mean we were told about it. 01:00:30.13 tonycam24 Her. 01:00:39.12 tonycam24 Yeah, did not see that coming. 01:00:44.97 programmeral Ah, what a week or two ago. Um, because Robin had the drawing on the on there. But yeah also I remembered but yes, but. 01:00:51.30 tonycam24 Um, yeah I I Yeah well yeah I do like that he can fly now presumably and that was his power in heroes. 01:01:06.95 tonycam24 Yeah, all right? So I guess it's time to wrap it up. Join us next time as we cover the next episode ages of shield season 5 episode 20 the one who will save us all I'm assuming Tony Starks in that episode. 01:01:07.40 programmeral Ah, that's right I forgot the actor was in Heroes. Okay. 01:01:23.62 programmeral You know. 01:01:25.54 tonycam24 And remember to follow us on Twitter and give us that 5 star rating on whatever podcast app you're using. Oh also follow us on Instagram I forgot update this ah as always this is a marvelynmatic rewind signing off have a marvelous day.