00:04.12 programmeral Welcome to the Marvel cinematic rewind the podcast that rewatches reviews and responds to every movie show 1 shot and special presentation in the Marvel cinematic universe I am Al Rodriguez 00:14.80 tonycam24 And I'm Tony Kimmerina 00:17.86 programmeral And before we get into this week's rewind. We want to ask you to follow us on Twitter I guess we are at emcu underscore rewind um or just just never follow us there so that way I'll convince myself to stop doing the ad for for that one really the thing that we want you to do is to give us a rating please. Give us a rating on Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcast app and then tell your friends about it or in the opposite order either way as long as we get that rating that would be awesome. Also this is normally when I would tell you that we are doing these things called scroll episodes. At the end of every month. 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Let us know on Twitter at Mcotis we rewind or send us an email at mc rewind at Gmail.com and with that all out of the way today we are starting our rewind. 01:48.30 programmeral Of 2018 tes avengers infinity war this is the this is the first third of the film. So. It's the first 54 minutes so it's the start of to where Thanos leaves nowhere with gomorra. Ah, this premiered on April Twenty Seventh of 2018. 02:08.70 tonycam24 And we thought would be important to as usual, do a summary of this very little known film that I'm sure no one saw so just summary to refresh your ah memory thanos attacksi as guardian refugee ship in search for the space zone. Most of the as guardians. There are already dead or incapacitated Loki takes this chance to try a few gambits first unleashing the whole on fanos who is easily defeated. Secondly he tries to kill fanos himself this results in Loki's death probably not the way he expected it to go. Ha dolsons the hulk to earth before Thanos kills him too. He then destroys the ship leaving Thor and taking his allies with his newly acquired infinity stones bruce lands in the sanctums andtorum where Steven Strange and Beyonce Wonng quickly ah get Tony Stark and explain what the in inventice stones are before Tony can call Steve Rogers for help they are interrupted by an alien spaceship coming down epne ma and cull obsidians fight the 2 wizards iron man and later sp a man for the timestone evony ma is able to capture the stone but unfortunately it is still attached to Dr Strange unbeknownst to him Spiderman and Iman note were also able to get on the ship meanwhile in space. The guardians of the galaxy literally run into Thor after reviving him thor and gomorra bond over family issues before Thor leaves with rock and and group to nit avalier to get to a new Thano's killing weapon. 03:39.59 tonycam24 Ah, the rest of the guardians then had to nowhere you know the giant head in space. Not literally going nowhere where the reality stone is hidden. They think they can get there before Thanos has a stone but when they arrive they see him and it's an illusion. Fanos take Skiura despite quill trying to fulfill his promise to kill her in Scotland approximately midnight and korvis gla attack Wanda and vision in an attempt to take the minestone Wanda Vision fight hard but they are outmatched before black widowow. Falcon and the hero formerly known as Captain America defeat these new enemies. Ah then they get on Quin Jet and Steve announces that they're going home which I assume is Brooklyn because that where Steve's from 04:28.44 programmeral Yeah I guess I mean that's that's his home but home for for all of them I don't I don't know Well we'll see I think we'll see that in the the second part of the film. Yeah I don't I don't know if that's yeah, if. 04:36.17 tonycam24 I mean saoy is not there anymore. Um I think Sam lived in Dc and then vision was on the top avenger tower that scotts sold. So. Really. 04:54.41 programmeral I'm gonna guess anywhere right I don't I don't know it's just it's a dart right? They throw a darted board that's home. We'll we'll find out. 04:54.91 tonycam24 Yeah, or or they're like just going to America in general because with exception of Wanda that's where they're I mean Natasha's from Brush I don't know we'll find out where they're going next week. That's not what we're talking about right now. 05:11.16 programmeral You exactly and hey um, really quickly just something that I wanted to say but did did just forgot to bring up. Um, just a reminder of what our spoiler policy is ah so um, as of today our spoiler policy is. 05:20.23 tonycam24 Oh yeah. 05:28.56 programmeral Ah, anything that has come out in the mccu as far as the films go everything except for the latest film to come out which was why am I blanking on the latest guard. That's right? So we will not talk about Guardy's galaxy volume 3 05:39.29 tonycam24 Guardians galaxy volume 3 05:44.40 programmeral Um I don't know why my mind was on ant man three I don't I knew that wasn't it it just that's what was coming to mind all right? So every other film we we might talk about so we might bring that up So just a heads up full spoilers on on that stuff. Maybe so yeah. 05:57.59 tonycam24 So before we jump into our fast facts when we do a movie usually we'll talk about like our reaction to the movie back when it came out so al what were your thoughts. What was your experience like going to see Avenger's infinity war 06:12.00 programmeral I loved it. It was my absolute favorite film I remember back when we did the predictions for this because we that was the first time we did a predictions results episode for for a film and when we talked about the the results I had said that you know it was my absolute favorite. 06:23.41 tonycam24 And. 06:31.58 programmeral I give it 5 stars with comments on why I give it 5 stars and I stick by that it is still to date my absolute favorite Mccuu film I do think some parts are a little bit harder to watch in that I think they that now that I know about them I think that those parts are. 06:34.34 tonycam24 Here. 06:40.47 tonycam24 Um, no. 06:50.10 programmeral Little more boring I don't mean hard to watch like they're bad I Just mean like all right. It know where they're going I don't I kind of want to skip over this but all right, That's fine. It's but it's still you know from minute zero to the credits I I love. 07:04.98 tonycam24 So what's your problem with the post credit scene because you only like it to the credits. 07:05.64 programmeral Every part of this film and the ending I mean. 07:13.75 programmeral I Yep I Only like it to the credits. That's right? Ah, no nothing nothing with it I Just didn't have a good way to to link that in with the time. No and I I love the film. Um I think the ending is amazing and it's I It's it's still it's powerful right? Just the the way that the film itself ends is just. 07:23.20 tonycam24 There. 07:31.90 programmeral Ah crazy I saw it like a year or so ago I was flipping through the channels on Tv and and the year that's the last like half hour so yet thought yeah sure I not I'll I'll watch this and it just it still hits every time I see that that ending which we won't be talking about today or next week it will be. 07:34.11 tonycam24 Earth. 07:43.38 tonycam24 Yes. 07:50.70 programmeral It'll be the week after but yeah anyway that's great I love the movie when I saw it I wasn't feeling good that day I actually took the afternoon off from work because I was feeling not too great and I wanted rest up for the film after I saw the film felt perfect completely fine. Nothing so this movie also cured me of. 08:06.76 tonycam24 Ah, all ah um I Really like the film I don't I did not like it as much as you do I know this is your favorite avengers film. Um I Love this movie. It's not my favorite ventures film. 08:09.40 programmeral I Don't know it was probably allergies or something but whatever I was feeling great. How about you. 08:25.98 programmeral Let's wait. 08:25.98 tonycam24 Um, yeah I went to go see it with my wife which she doesn't love. She doesn't go see all the Marvel movies with me. Um, but she does love the gorians galaxy so she went to see it because they were in it. Um, also she ah when we walked out and you know. The dusting happens spoiler alerts for the last year of this movie. Um, and you know people would come out like usually people are excited and people are just like kind of depressed after the end of this movie because it's the ends on such a downer and my wife starts to be like I'm really glad I saw this with you. 08:55.40 programmeral Me. 09:02.73 tonycam24 Because I would not have understand why you were so sad coming back from this movie also to date. She will not watch this movie again because she does not want to watch Spiderman die again. So yeah, she did. Yes, she. 09:14.65 programmeral That's fair. That's fair doubt now I assume she saw end game where he's no longer dead. Okay, okay, just make it sure. 09:20.25 tonycam24 She wasn't not going to go see that after this movie like ah um, yeah, so no I really enjoyed this movie. Um I I think and personally I think there are some pacing issues. Um. 09:22.87 programmeral Into art. 09:37.45 tonycam24 Mostly because this entire movie is a third act. It's like action just like it felt I know it's a two and a half hour movie but it felt rushed where end game. Ah, the obvious comparison is. 09:54.95 tonycam24 There are fewer characters. So there's a lot more time to breathe. So I I find that movie more enjoyable. Also um I I still get shivers when cap picks up the hammer but we're not there yet. We'll get there in like a year or 2 or three I don't know. 10:04.32 programmeral But. 10:09.85 tonycam24 But I love this movie but no I don't love it as much as you do. 10:11.38 programmeral Yeah, and actually just kind of adding to that I think that the way that you described it is probably a better description of why I think I enjoy this film a lot more because the entire film is is an act 3 It's it's the end of of something and it's just nonstop and that's. 10:20.37 tonycam24 Er. 10:29.10 programmeral That that's the thing that I prefer more? yeah. 10:29.41 tonycam24 Right? That's fair, all right, you ready to move on to the fast facts what you got out. 10:36.65 programmeral Yes, I am ah so I actually have quite a few but I've put the majority of them with the different characters and sections just because like I I thought it would make a little more sense but for contractually obligated reasons I still have. 10:45.75 tonycam24 Okay, that's right. 10:53.81 programmeral At least 1 in ah in the fast fact section I actually have 2 for this first one but the other two are going to have just one. Um, so the first one is that ah the russo brothers have said that they're that they're there're um. 10:59.15 tonycam24 Oh yeah. 11:09.50 programmeral They're thinking of this movie. Their mindset was that this is Thanos' ' movie this is his introduction and also like this is him doing his thing right? As as we see right? like we get him actually going across and and you kind of even though we as the audience see more of the heroes like. 11:11.83 tonycam24 A. Yeah. 11:27.53 programmeral Yeah, this is him doing exactly what he wanted and winning at the end. So yeah. 11:32.91 tonycam24 Um, yeah, so he's a protagonist of this movie. 11:36.61 programmeral Yeah, that's probably the better phrase. Yeah yeah, um, and then the other one which I assume you probably have on your list but I will be taking it because I remembered to write it down. Um, so if you've ever seen arrested development the tv show um the Russo Brothers also 11:45.21 tonycam24 Um, that's fair. 11:54.27 programmeral Worked on on that show. Ah, and so one of the characters from there to buy his fewky fuke. It's been a while. So and I Don and also I don't know if I've ever said that name out loud fewky anyway, um, he's in the background on nowhere when the guardians are kind of walking around and trying to fight Thanos I can but. 11:58.27 tonycam24 Yeah I think though. 12:09.60 tonycam24 Yeah, he's he's in one of the pods in the collectors thing. Yeah. 12:13.40 programmeral Yeah, yeah, yeah, just to be clear. He's he's in a pot. He's not like just hanging out in the background like ready to go in and fight Thanos that's that's not what he's doing. no no yeah 12:22.90 tonycam24 I Mean he's waiting for his call I mean any moments he's backup. There are a lot of blue people on nowhere Nebula wasn't there. He was ready but all right? Yeah um I've got. 12:29.76 programmeral It exactly. But yeah, those those are the only 2 I'm starting with how about you Tony what have you got. 12:39.16 tonycam24 Wide a few I've tried to like there's something obvious things I didn't put in here because I'm trying to spread them out for the other sections. Um the title of this infinity war based on the 1992 comic called in Fany Warre a miniseries. Ah worth thans collecting infinity sims. Um. 12:54.96 programmeral E. 12:58.17 tonycam24 I've got some facts about the children of Thanos Eny Ma Call Obsidian Proxi mid night and corvis slave all appeared in new Avengers number 8 July 2013 comic I actually read I did not know that was their first issue. Um, yeah, ah thing that. 13:12.29 programmeral Chase. 13:17.87 tonycam24 The actors ah not a lot about the one for ebony ma Tom voughn Lawlor that's all I have he doesn't have any really nerd creds. We've got proxima midnight actress Carrie Coon she was in. Ghostbusters after life which I have yet to get around to watching um and then she was also in ah she was the character Nora in the leftovers and if you haven't seen the leftovers. Um, it's depressing. But it's a really good show on Hbo ram 3 seasons um I recommend it to anyone who likes to be a little depressed but ends a little with a little bit of hope. So. 14:01.23 programmeral That's that's what I hear everyone everyone who recommends that show says the same same thing about it like so maybe maybe one of these a I'll get around to watching it but I'm I'm just now finishing up Barry so we'll see. 14:03.60 tonycam24 Yes. 14:10.60 tonycam24 Yeah, that' another show I need to watch. We've got corvis glave ah performed by Michael James Shaw he played Mercer in the walking dead which is a character that appeared after I stopped watching the walking dead. Ah. He also played poppa midnight in the constantine show and I believe it's on peacock if you haven't seen the constantine show. It's pretty good. It only ran for 1 season on Nbc but I that's probably 1 of my top non Marvel superhero shows. And then finally we have Cole Obsidian who doesn't actually have a voice. He does have a character actor Terry Notary um and Terry Notary is mostly known as a motion capture guy so he was ah, King Kong in the plan the apes not plan ye time me. In the monster verse movies the Godzilla Godzilla versus Kong he was the um character choreographer for the plan of the apes prequel trilogy. He also was in ah avatar like um, the blue people avatar. Ah. Doing choreography for that he and he was the incredible hulk in the original in the 2008 incredible hulk the mcnu one for all the motion captured because um I guess um Edward Norton wasn't 15:44.84 tonycam24 Feeling like being in the big green suit. Ah yeah, also in the comics. Ah Col Sydney is not his name. He's actually ah named black dwarf in the comics they changed it because you know the word dwarf isn't. 15:47.52 programmeral I Mean that's fair, but all right I guess. 16:03.64 tonycam24 Ah, people don't like that word as much nowadays. Ah for little people. So I guess that's why they took it off call up sitting is actually in the name of the children of Thanos in the comics like the group is called the call upsidian. So. 16:15.18 programmeral Oh okay, all right that makes sense I mean I all right I guess it makes sense to change that name I mean dwarves are a a race in that like show up in the as Guardian like yeah, so like okay all right I was just up. 16:28.30 tonycam24 In in yeah, like yeah I don't or maybe ah or possibly could I had heard that and um before they might be apocryphal. The other possibility is we don't want them thinking. He's a dwarf and then Pierre dinkligen. 16:34.87 programmeral 15 16:43.80 tonycam24 Later in this movie is a dwarf like it the character. Yeah, yeah, yeah I guess. 16:43.90 programmeral Oh yeah, okay, all right? Oh thinking that he they're of the same group of people kind of thing. Okay, all right that all right? Oh to be fair, call Obsidian just sounds cooler. 16:59.88 tonycam24 Is is break cool name. Um, the first thing we hear in this movie is the as guardian um, asking for likes help under attack that voice is Kenneth Brana 17:01.46 programmeral Yeah, and. 17:15.10 tonycam24 The director of the first Thor movie. He also ah known as he's played Gildroy Lockhart in the Harry Potter movies ah you 17:15.65 programmeral Um, no. 17:22.67 programmeral Oh okay, so so he acts also like anytime someone says oh that was the director I Always I Always forget that Oh yeah, directors can act. Also. 17:32.75 tonycam24 he yes He is he is very much well known as like a shakespearean actor like I know he's done at least like 3 shakespearean adapttations he also he directs and he's acted in other stuff as well. So yeah, um. 17:44.37 programmeral Oh okay, gotcha. 17:49.94 tonycam24 The scene with Bruce crashing into the s samemingtorum is from the infini war comic ah, but in the comic. It's the Silver Surfer crashing in and warning them about Thanos um also straight from the comics is ah Drax and Mantis turning into cubes. Um. 18:00.65 programmeral Ah. 18:08.34 tonycam24 I don't think they did 2 direct amantis I forgot look up who they did to in the comics cubes and like ribbon and it was more like an artistic choice of like how he can control reality but here they literally did it so I thought it was creepier in this. 18:21.31 programmeral Me? Yes, yeah, and I don't know if you have it in your in your spoiler or your ah fast facts but the the bubbles were also something that he did in the comics too. 18:25.94 tonycam24 What. 18:36.70 tonycam24 I did not know that because I do have a question like what's up with fan of them bubbles. Yeah, ah couple more we got Stan Lee as a bus driver so got very obvious. 18:41.24 programmeral Ah, he just used like the bubbles. Yeah. 18:51.00 tonycam24 And then we've got 3 superhero landings in this one ah number one thirty nine is when spy demand lands on the um ship in his new rspider suit and then we get numbers one 40 and one forty one back to back. Ah. Approximatexi midnights and corvis la bust through the ceiling of the the glass ceiling of the train station and do side by side super your landings right before? cap america shows up. Ah there are in for anyone listening there literally. Hundreds more easter eggs that I'm not going to spend an hour going through. 19:29.46 programmeral Yeah, yeah, exactly and and God we're only on the first third of this film. Ah yes, yeah, you should actually talk about the film I guess. 19:30.99 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right? then let's just move on to our heroes. 19:40.98 programmeral Oh boy, all right? So I guess sorry go ahead, don't Yeah, yeah, you you do it you I think you are better at describing this. 19:45.14 tonycam24 So ah, do you I Explain how are doing the Heroes or do you want me to. 19:53.95 tonycam24 All right? So there are ah like the title is film. There are an infinite amount of characters in this movie. No, there's probably I don't know like 20 main characters in this movie. Um. 20:00.54 programmeral Here. Any. 20:08.20 tonycam24 I figured that right now but we decide instead of going character by character. We're going to go location by location like for example, we're going to be starting on the as guarding ship and then we'll do New York and then we'll do Scotland maybe not that order but I it's just going to be way easier that way. 20:24.74 programmeral Oh yeah, yeah. 20:27.35 tonycam24 So let's start on that as guardianship after Kenneth Brown requests help. 20:33.19 programmeral Yeah, so I mean the first thing I guess to remember is that and and I guess I get why they did this but this is after a fight this is after Thanos and team have already beaten. All the as guardians who are willing to fight including Thor um, which all right I guess considering how much was in this film I guess they had to minimize something but ah. 20:51.22 tonycam24 Um. 21:02.29 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah, so ah, yeah, Thor's lost his eye lost his sister bosses planet this week 21:07.29 programmeral No. Was it that long is that that short of a time I guess. 21:13.71 tonycam24 Ah, well the post credit scene of the postcred scene of regnarok is Thanos appearing there. 21:21.80 programmeral Yeah I I never thought the post credit scenes were always were were time related like I just thought that this was a scene that happens at some point so I never assumed that it was like then that day kind of thing. 21:39.11 tonycam24 Okay I I do like I like unless unless it um unless it like definitely says it's been like a time jump like um I mean going forward to the one I'm thinking about is Captain Marvel right now. 21:40.11 programmeral Oh okay. 21:56.65 tonycam24 Like we know there's some time between the snap and then like regrouping of the base but like logically there's no reason why there wouldn't be worried. There would be a chime jump especially when you can travel faster than light. Yeah. 22:10.68 programmeral If yeah I did wonder about that I mean also I didn't know where they were going that was the other thing they never really said they did did they say they were going to earth. Oh I miss that? Okay, yeah I mean true. Yes, ah okay. 22:16.27 tonycam24 Earth. Yeah, they said they were going to earth. They love him there. No, that's what that was a line that th says says because Loki's like are you sure bringing me here. It's like yeah they love me there. Yeah. 22:30.77 programmeral Oh That's right? Okay, yeah now I remember this? Okay, um, yeah, Okay I guess I mean I Also don't know like how long it takes to go like it. Yeah, it's faster than like travel. But it's not. Immediate It still takes some time like they have to do jump points and all that stuff and you can't do so many points. Otherwise we get that whole scene we saw on guardians too. So that that's why in my mind I was thinking like oh it takes some time but I guess you're right if it if it was at least that same week. 22:47.94 tonycam24 Er. 22:58.97 tonycam24 He yeah and all of asgards because look county. There weren't a lot as guardians left. 23:00.19 programmeral Okay, that's still 1 really bad week for Thor. Yeah, yeah, yep, yeah, that's true. Yeah, ah and then his best friend you forgot to mention that to iimm dull. He's dead. Ah because if. 23:14.36 tonycam24 Yeah, um, do we want to put Loki in the hero section he does he does a heroic sacrifice. 23:20.66 programmeral Oh that is a good question. We didn't yeah we didn't talk about that. But yeah I think I think given how much he has in this film. Yes I think it's fair to to say that he ah can be upgraded to hero for this film. 23:27.32 tonycam24 Um, yeah. 23:34.85 tonycam24 Um, so yeah, so this is like this is Loki's big scene. His only scene frankly. Ah yeah, so like like he what he. 23:43.10 programmeral Yep. 23:50.88 tonycam24 Says he's not as guardian but he's still Odin's son so it's like finally synthesizing the two sides of him right? Yeah um and he gets to use the line that ah Tony used on him which is we have a hulk. 23:55.93 programmeral Yeah, yeah. 24:06.88 programmeral Yeah, yeah, he oh as soon as he thought of that he was happy. He was like oh I'm going to get to say this? yes. 24:13.92 tonycam24 Did when when Thanos was attacking did he run to the hulk and say just hide here until I say we have a hulk. 24:26.10 programmeral I was wondering about that I actually because I mean because we see Thor off to the side like he is he is beaten ah we didn't see the hulk. So I don't know what was going on there. 24:31.12 tonycam24 Yeah, yep. Yeah, an Thano seems surprised that the Hulk attack. 24:39.88 programmeral Yeah, but. 24:43.21 tonycam24 Or is like was hulks asleep and then he saw him coming up at the corner of his eye. 24:48.53 programmeral Yeah, he could have been fighting on a different level of the ship. That's an option I guess I don't that that one just feels weird. But yes. 24:53.76 tonycam24 True I mean we don't so yeah, we also don't see like Chitari or other people than the um, the children and Thanos and pantas himself. 25:07.98 programmeral That's true. Yeah later in the film when we see Thanos doing this to I forget what the planet was to a domor planet. Yeah yeah, we we see giant freaking army. Yeah um. 25:13.46 tonycam24 To Gamor is yeah. 25:23.37 programmeral Yeah, okay, and maybe some of that's just the writing didn't work out I don't know or maybe this is one of those scenarios where like yeah, they actually had a lot more but they had to cut it for time because it's a two and a half hour movie so yeah 25:37.27 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah's true or it's just like maybe Thanos and his the children of Thanos and that's really hard to say the family decided to ah just do it themselves. There aren't a lot of asgarines there and compared to. 25:45.80 programmeral Ah. 25:53.00 tonycam24 Banos and I guess the rest of them as guardians aren't that big a deal. 25:57.72 programmeral I I I'm assuming that he used that power stone because that was the first stone he got and he is. He's pretty strong with it. So I'm I'm assuming that he just like got onto the ship and then just immediately. 26:06.32 tonycam24 Um. 26:15.43 programmeral Lit everyone up with the power stuff. 26:16.60 tonycam24 Yeah, that makes sense every every unnamed character and who didn't Jettison right away. 26:22.40 programmeral Yeah, well not not kill them per se maybe kill half of them. Ah, but but yeah, yeah, although actually speaking of since we're talking about the Hulk and Thanos um talk a little bit about that fight between the 2 of them and the. 26:26.74 tonycam24 Um, yeah I Um yep. 26:41.21 programmeral The big thing to bring up Thanos did not use the power stone when he fought the hulk. 26:43.51 tonycam24 Yeah, it's like he's definitely. He's at least as strong as the hulk and he is a much more skilled fighter. 26:50.98 programmeral Yeah, yeah, exactly the hulk is just rage like he's uses his his force and I mean considering the last time we saw the hulk he was ah the champion right? that? um you know and in ah Thor Ragnarok he was yeah he was the champion of cigar and. 26:55.00 tonycam24 Um, yeah. 27:04.97 tonycam24 Um, I'm sickar. 27:10.39 programmeral So considering we could see what he could do technically Thor beat him but it took a lot of effort for Thor to beat the hulk and it took a lot less effort for Thanos to beat the hulk. So I guess we can assume on a power scale level. Yeah, where where they are. 27:25.52 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah, um, yeah, so he easily disposed of the hulk and then ah Loki tries to trick him a second time like saying yeah. I'll be your guide I'll be your helper even though I just unleashed the hulk on you and then tries to 7 yeah, ah, this is. 27:45.30 programmeral Yeah, that that doesn't really work out for him. Yeah, yeah, this is a fool me once shame on use and situation. 28:00.22 tonycam24 Loki's death in this I think is the most brutal death in the mcu so far. 28:07.91 tonycam24 I just like I can't think of one like they may need make it look really realistic. So we know look he's dead and there's no way he's going come back into his own show in 2 years 28:21.44 programmeral Ah, yeah, that's true. Yeah, not not coming back from that essentially right? because that's that's even a thing they even had a line that Thano says it right? and um. 28:26.85 tonycam24 Um, yeah, um. 28:32.96 programmeral Got to throw down my note notes because I put that for his section but you know when he he kills them. He says no resurrections of this time like you, you're not coming back Loki. We already announced your your show did they actually I don't know if they announced anything after okay, we're good, um all right? So yeah, he. 28:39.98 tonycam24 Yep. 28:44.14 tonycam24 I Don't think they did. 28:50.54 tonycam24 Um, yeah, yep. 28:52.18 programmeral As far as we knew he was he was dead. Um, because I mean I mean first of all, yeah true. He's not going back. He's dead. Um, but also I forget that Thanos knows about stuff in the greater universe I don't know how he knows but he knows about that I mean on one hand. 29:04.40 tonycam24 Earth. 29:09.17 programmeral I guess he knows that everyone thought Loki was dead after the first Thor film because like I guess Thanos saved him. They made a deal. They never really went into details about that. But that was essentially what happened? Um, but I assume Thanos knows a lot more about Loki's 29:17.10 tonycam24 Yeah. 29:26.54 programmeral Life and stuff about him faking deaths and all of that just Thanos knows about Tony Stark that comes out ah up a little bit in ah in this film. But yeah, yeah, yeah. 29:29.37 tonycam24 Oh. 29:39.83 tonycam24 Yeah I I will will get to that I have theories of how he knows about Stark yeah, all right? Um, yeah so Thanos takes the space stone and destroys the ship and flies away or teleports away. 29:44.39 programmeral So okay, cool. 29:54.58 programmeral Yeah, yeah. 29:57.78 tonycam24 Right? anything else I don't think there's anything else on the spaceship. Um Heim Dol I put him guy in the chair right? Where do we want to go next. 30:07.57 programmeral Okay, all right? That's fair. Ah well I mean since banner was sent to New York let's let's go there. Um, and that was the next scene. So I feel like that's the good spot. 30:16.64 tonycam24 All right. 30:24.11 tonycam24 Yeah, um, yeah, so do you think Tony proposed to pepper at the press conference in this homecoming. 30:38.31 programmeral Ah, ah, that's a good question. Ah no no I don't I don't think they I mean if I were to guess I assume that he did something better right? What in his mind would be better a lot more of a grand event probably hired. Ah, you know specific catering for them at some kind of retreat brought in mariachis which is weird because they were in Canada you know something like that. 30:59.68 tonycam24 Um, and then like. 31:06.70 tonycam24 I Feel like he would have done like laser laser production onto the moon or something. Yeah, yeah. 31:13.58 programmeral Yeah, he could have done that yeah he he had a couple of suits come in and they played like um I was the game like the 3 card Monty kind of thing and he was like all right I have a surprise for you. Choose 1 of these and under it was under all 3 of them were ringed but it was just which ring she was choosing. Yeah. 31:32.41 tonycam24 Yeah I Actually that's the only part I disagree with I think the rest were spot on but he wouldn't do that with suits because of how pepper feels about the suits. Yeah, yeah, because they even talked like he's got his. Ah. 31:37.10 programmeral Okay, okay I Guess that's fair, all right all right? yeah. 31:50.60 tonycam24 Nanotech Ah, chess piece I guess and she doesn't like that right there. 31:53.51 programmeral Yeah, yeah, he says it's just a container. But yeah, who right right? yeah. 31:59.73 tonycam24 Yeah, well, it's container for the particles. Yeah, um, so yeah, so he gets picked up by strange ah strange tells them like or ah, not strange banner tells them about ah that fans coming and. 32:16.84 programmeral Is it me. 32:18.30 tonycam24 This sandwis person is and stuff like that and I like Tony's ah reaction just continuity wise like he says this is it. This is literally what he's been dreading since 2012 and's been heightened by wandan 2015 yeah which yeah, yeah, which is actually um. 32:28.56 programmeral Yeah, yeah, exactly I mean well because we we saw oh sorry, go ahead, Go ahead. 32:37.24 tonycam24 I was just saying is I It's a moment I didn't know I never noticed before watching it with subtitles this time when I'd take notes like just talking themselves like oh crap. 32:44.92 programmeral Yeah, yeah, exactly I mean he's it explains his actions you know right? after the battle of New York right with iron man 3 how how he was reacting and he was just continuously building suits it explains why in aveng's infinity war they wanted to. 32:53.61 tonycam24 Yeah. 33:04.10 programmeral Built you know quote Unquote build a suit of armor around the world right? It's yeah exact. Well I mean both. But oh sorry that Yes, yeah, that's what I meant it Avengers H ball truck. Yes, for some reason if any war is on my mind but I don't know why? yeah. 33:06.83 tonycam24 Ul on you mean you said Infin Avengers Infiny War you mean age of Oldron. It's all good. 33:17.42 tonycam24 I No idea why. 33:22.82 programmeral Yeah, and then we see he's I guess kind of led I I still have no idea what his role was in ah Kevin America's civil war with the military but he had some kind of role. Either way he's he's moved up and in things and all of that is yeah because of the battle New York slash 33:35.97 tonycam24 Here. 33:42.58 tonycam24 Um, yeah, ah, what do you? What's your opinion on ah strange and stark's like rivalry. 33:42.89 programmeral Thanos. So. 33:55.83 programmeral They're just 2 guys who are going to have a pissing contest every chance they get. That's it like yeah, all right? They're both. They're both good at their thing. They're both used to being the the best person in the room at what they're doing the smart person. 34:00.18 tonycam24 Um. 34:08.62 tonycam24 Yeah, who who's the better sherlock holmes. 34:11.48 programmeral And that's that's it yeah, ah well I didn't see the Benedict Cumberbatch one I always met to ah but every time I sat down to watch it. It was like like an hour and a half for an episode and I thought I'm not I'm not in the mood to watch a movie. So then I would binge watch like. 34:27.26 tonycam24 Um, ah. 34:30.12 tonycam24 Yeah. 34:31.11 programmeral 4 hours of something. Yeah, um, so that's that's what stopped me? Um, so I guess I'm going to have to default to Robert Downing Juniorr as the better one I guess okay, oh all, right? okay. 34:42.84 tonycam24 You're wrong bend to come back just way better. Yeah, although I did watch him the show back in the Tumblr days when everyone was just posting about doctor who and Sherlock Holmes all the time. So i. 34:54.51 programmeral Oh okay. 34:57.53 tonycam24 Let's see if it holds up ten years later or whatever it is. Yeah um, yeah, so is there anything else you want to talk about in sending them sanctorum or should we just jump to the street fight. 35:01.54 programmeral Ah, okay. 35:13.88 programmeral Ah, no yeah, that's that's pretty much it. We get the description of ah or we get the the exposition right? They have to tell us the audience what the infinity stones are so we we get that. Finally after what was it 9 years when this this film came out of the mcu. Um. 35:17.80 tonycam24 If. 35:27.89 tonycam24 Yeah, but this is this this is year ten? yep. 35:31.19 programmeral Or or actually it was 2018 so it's 10 Yeah, so so just two months shot one? Oh no like a week one week shy of of the official ten years since the first ironman film came out. Um, yeah, they finally told us what these things are I've been waiting had been at least so glad that they explained it. Um. 35:37.53 tonycam24 Who. 35:48.16 tonycam24 Yeah, ah. 35:50.42 programmeral But yeah, that's that's it. That's pretty much all that happens in that scene. 35:53.99 tonycam24 Yeah, so they get ah pulled off the street. Ah by the donut ship flying down. Um and 1 big thing I always notice or people complain about as like a goof in this movie. 35:59.53 programmeral You need. 36:07.58 programmeral Is it. 36:10.23 tonycam24 Is that when Tony suits up right? He takes off his glasses and the glasses disappear I mean this is nanotech couldn't the glasses be nanotech and they just got absorbed in the shoot through. Yeah. 36:16.30 programmeral Um, and. 36:21.22 programmeral But I thought they were I was watching them this time because like because I saw them disappear I thought wait a minute are those nanotech and then rewound 10 seconds and I think it kind of happens like off camera like the camera was looking at his his chest when we had had his hand down. But. 36:35.11 tonycam24 Yeah, okay I mean I agree but people are like no it just disappear is all big goo phone no ruined movie Cinema sins type of thing. 36:37.41 programmeral I Thought I assumed that they were nanotech. If. 36:49.94 programmeral That's well like so much sci-fi stuff just happens in this in in this series right in all of these and and that's and that you think that's a problem like no, just you can sci-fi the answer away for a lot of these things and that's an easy want to do. 36:55.73 tonycam24 Yeah. 37:05.64 tonycam24 Um, and if you can't you can magic of the way because we've got. Yeah. 37:06.44 programmeral Yeah, yeah, exactly or or he just dropped the glasses. 37:13.19 tonycam24 But I like aren't these this they seem like the same glasses he gives Peter later. 37:20.84 programmeral Um, they have the different Ai inside of them this one still has Friday um, but other than that that's my assumption. Yes, which I'd never noticed before this rewatch that. Oh yeah, those are probably the same glasses other than the the Ai. 37:26.23 tonycam24 Ah, yeah. 37:37.24 tonycam24 Do you think it was probably the costume designer but I would like to think that ah robertie Dinny Junior picked out those glasses because I think frankly they look kind of dumb. Ah, and then they're just stuck with them through far from home. 37:54.84 programmeral Ah, um, hey maybe I don't add I don't know um I mean yes, they they are stuck with those glasses I assume because of that they're like well we need to link it in some way. So I guess this is an easy way to do it even though I'm sure the vast majority of people wouldn't even notice. 37:58.58 tonycam24 Yeah. In it. 38:13.32 programmeral Like myself I didn't notice until rewatching this film just now. 38:16.12 tonycam24 Um, yeah, but the people who would know this are the loudest and mostnoying. 38:20.22 programmeral That is true. Yes, yeah. 38:25.65 tonycam24 Um, so yeah, so they get ready to fight. Ah brute. The hulk is not coming out. 38:35.59 programmeral Yeah, yeah, that's ah, that's a problem throughout the entirety of this film. 38:36.42 tonycam24 Yeah, so we know that Hulk refuses. What's your interpretation is it more of a he's scared more that he's pissed off a banner. Is it something else? What do you think. 38:51.83 programmeral So when I first saw the film my assumption was it was like a pride thing he was beaten by Thanos. It's like I know I don't I don't want to come out I did that fighting stuff I'm I'm good. No um. 38:55.28 tonycam24 Have. 39:04.89 tonycam24 Yeah, good. 39:08.17 programmeral I think there's been an official answer from the Russo Brothers which is the other thing that I think so oh yeah, so I thought that I had heard them say and and this is always the hard part right? like when something in a film is left uncertain and then later the writers or directors say. 39:12.59 tonycam24 Hourly. 39:26.77 programmeral Oh well by the way we just didn't put it in the film but you know XYZ I always take that with a grain of salt like yes, they meant to do that. But it's not in the film so we can be changed whenever right like it. It can always be not what you said. However, what they said is the hulk was just tired of always. 39:29.20 tonycam24 A. 39:35.14 tonycam24 Yeah. 39:46.57 programmeral Ah, fixing Banners problems you need. Yeah I agree. Yeah. 39:48.17 tonycam24 Okay I I don't like that answer I think it's the most boring answer. Yeah the answer I thought of I like have you ever seen Dr. Horrible singalong blog. 40:02.21 programmeral I have but only once and around the time it came out so I don't remember a single thing about it. 40:08.00 tonycam24 Oh okay, um Nathan philion plays Captain Hammer the quote unquote hero who is a terrible person. Um, but at the very end the spoilers for a 15 year old web show. Um. 40:22.48 programmeral Edit. 40:25.12 tonycam24 He gets shot by Dr. Horrible's lazer and feels pain for the first time and just cannot cope just curls in the ball and cries because he's been superpowered his entire life I'm wonder Thanos I'm hurting Hulk is the first time he's been legitimately hurt and he's just afraid now. 40:31.54 programmeral Um, a unit. 40:44.36 programmeral Ah I kind of like it. 40:44.94 tonycam24 Yeah, so that's when we go the Hulk's actually a wimp. 40:50.82 programmeral I I mean yeah, he he could be is. It's his first time you know at at that level and it didn't work out for. 40:53.62 tonycam24 Where. 41:00.90 tonycam24 Yep, So yeah, so as we usually do we do? We're going to do an excellent job talking about this action scene they fight? yep. 41:09.80 programmeral Um, yeah, they do, um, do you want to bring Spiderman into this now or we wait. Okay, yeah, so yeah, so he ah leaves yet another school trip. Ah. 41:15.90 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah, that's in the next thing go ahead. 41:26.45 programmeral To to go do his his thing. Um and like we see him swinging into action I I have not counted it but I feel like we see more swinging into action in this film with Spiderman than we do in. 41:27.65 tonycam24 Um, here. 41:45.34 programmeral At least homecoming and I don't remember about the other 2 41:50.23 tonycam24 I watched Ah, but so when you say swing into the action though I watched no way home a couple days ago just for think of it but I wanted to find what do you mean by swinging into the action. 41:54.12 programmeral Yeah. 42:03.14 programmeral Well um, like I I do not count that first scene where he's swinging around with Mj so I mean swinging into action like ah I don't know I I I probably need a better description than what like. Just. 42:08.70 tonycam24 Here. 42:19.92 tonycam24 Okay. 42:20.80 programmeral The cool swinging is really what I'm saying like there. There's times where he's swinging like yeah, okay swinging. But there's other times like it just looks like cool spider man swinging and I have no idea how to describe that but I'm sure you know exactly what I'm talking about. Okay, good good. 42:28.50 tonycam24 Um, okay I know exactly how what you're talking about. Yeah, you're you're right? Um, no way home I'm sorry homecoming is mostly in the suburbs. There isn't a lot of super Ag. Ah. 42:42.30 programmeral I Hear that. 42:45.91 tonycam24 Swinging action. They make a joke about it. Ah, and then they're in Europe for far from home. There is a lot of swinging action in no way home. Ah, mostly because ah the second half of the movie there is 3 times as may inspired man to do the swinging action. Um. 42:59.81 programmeral Even. 43:02.88 tonycam24 Yeah, that that I feel like if I'm thinking about the same thing you're thinking about is like that whole the the climax of the movie at the statue liberty. There's a lot of awesome swinging there? Um, yeah. 43:05.50 programmeral It put. 43:13.40 programmeral And the flips and all of that stuff the acrobatics. Maybe that's really what I'm thinking of a swing with some acrobatics. 43:22.64 tonycam24 Yeah I feel like there was some good swinging action in ah, especially in the inside of the airport when he's fighting Falcon and the winner soldier in civil war I think I feel like that's a yeah, but you're right his his first 2 silly movies is just it doesn't take place in Manhattan. 43:29.12 programmeral Yeah, when he first shows up in the mcu. 43:39.80 tonycam24 That's why Spidman doesn't work in any other city other than like there and maybe Chicago but Chicago was not even as densely packed as New York so yeah ah 1 thing we get in this that I really enjoyed is because this is pre far from home. 43:44.29 programmeral Um. 43:48.15 programmeral Yeah, yeah, exactly. 43:59.43 tonycam24 Um, his instinct instinctual usage of a spidey sense or the Peter Tingle yeah this is the only second time we've seen it I think I can't think of if we ever see it in homecoming. 44:03.17 programmeral In the yeah. 44:15.44 tonycam24 But we definitely get ah when he's dodging something that ah I think the falcon is throwing at him or winner soldiers throwing at him in the airport scene and and then this with the ah the hairs on the arm standing Ups like. 44:24.28 programmeral Yeah. 44:32.68 tonycam24 He obviously he doesn't control it but he's still instinctually. He's still a sense that he has I thought it was cool. 44:35.32 programmeral Yeah, yeah, it Yeah, he knows something's going on and and at at him. Minimumm just as his yeah, there's some danger. 44:44.78 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah, um, yeah, talking about Peter and this I this my favorite inspired man scene in this whole movie mostly because I'm not a fan of the iron spider suit. Yeah. 44:54.41 programmeral Yeah, yeah, same here. 45:01.15 tonycam24 I'm glad they didn't fully get rid of it in the next 2 movies but they had reasons for him not to use it I mean his next 2 appearances and not more his 2 soul movies. Yeah. 45:10.57 programmeral Yeah, yeah, exactly? Yeah yeah, it was weird though actually seeing the suit that he had in homecoming and I guess also ah given American Civil War For some reason I see that suit now and just think it looks so. 45:17.31 tonycam24 U. 45:26.31 programmeral So old something about it looks out of date is probably a better description something about that suit I don't know why. But. 45:35.30 tonycam24 I' know it feels classic to me. It's not as classic as the one we get at the end of no way home, but it feels like this is his housepireman should be I know it's still a stark suit but like he should be in a fabric suit. 45:40.20 programmeral Okay. 45:47.40 programmeral Little. 45:52.34 tonycam24 I Think that's one of the iconic parts of his look the metal suit. It's just the mailuit bugs me it bugs me it bug me in the comics. It bugs me here. Yeah, um so ah, they or wonng pretty much gets rid of. 45:57.80 programmeral Yeah, that's fair. Okay, that's fair. 46:11.53 tonycam24 Ah, Cole Obidian takes off his arm continues the ah theme of people losing arms in the mccu. Yeah ah ebyma doesn't care at all. Everyone is completely. 46:19.63 programmeral Is it is it. 46:28.16 programmeral Ah, Noop not at all. 46:30.63 tonycam24 Everyone is completely ah, disposable as long as sans gets hiss. Yeah is he? Oh I mean I guess he ah I was going to talk about Ebony Model a little bit but we should save him for villains. Ah yeah. 46:34.69 programmeral Yeah. 46:46.59 programmeral Probably fair. Yeah. 46:50.36 tonycam24 So the true one of the best heroes in the mccu saves strange a few times clokie the cloak. Yeah I Yeah I just feel like maybe this is the only time I feel like. 47:00.72 programmeral Um. 47:07.54 tonycam24 The cloak is cheating Dr Strange was unconscious. 47:07.70 programmeral Really, the cloak was the cloak was kind of cheating in the first doctor strange film also like as soon as he gets that cloak. He's like able to fight off a handful of other. 47:20.16 tonycam24 Yeah. 47:25.28 programmeral People other sorcerers just because of the cloak to be fair, they did say that the cloak is like some super awesome ancient enchanted item but I can never tell when something is because earlier he was complaining to Tony Stark about leaning on the. 47:35.85 tonycam24 Um. 47:44.47 programmeral But is it the cauldron of the cosmos and I have no idea what that does it probably exists in the comics and I'm sure I can look that up online but it just sounds like something that would have a lot of power. 47:54.99 tonycam24 Yeah, um I have a theory about what it does but I need a look at the 2 items ah because is it the same pot that. 48:02.38 programmeral Okay. 48:10.60 tonycam24 Ah, he tries to use against Cacilius and caseilli says you don't know how that works to you. 48:16.70 programmeral Oh that's a good point I I don't remember because this thing would I don't think so because this thing was huge like this was like as tall as as a person. Um. 48:23.10 tonycam24 Okay, yeah, okay because that thing that he doesn't now use. Um they use it a multipleverse madness It shoots fireballs. Yeah, all right? Um, yeah, so they get ah well. 48:30.70 programmeral Oh oh cool. Okay. 48:40.89 tonycam24 They take him up to space and Peter gets beamed up and almost dies. 48:48.60 programmeral Yeah, yeah I mean he has the problem that iron man had in his first film of ah lack of air up top. Also I guess cold. But maybe maybe maybe not maybe he didn't have that that issue. 48:52.31 tonycam24 Um, yeah I think I I think he would die of lack of Oxygen before the hypothermia hits. But that's just a theory. 49:05.70 programmeral Probably yeah, that's a lot quicker. Yeah true. 49:08.12 tonycam24 I don't know. Um, yeah, so ah also ah Tony sends him the iron spider suit right? be to save his life. 49:18.74 programmeral To save his life. Yes. 49:23.30 tonycam24 And because Peter probably did not repack the parachute after he used it in homecoming otherwise he was just to use the that parachute. 49:31.73 programmeral That's true. Yeah I forgot about the parachute. Ah, ah. 49:35.31 tonycam24 Ah, yeah, um, yeah, so Tony and peter go to space with them should we keep with this group for a little bit in space. 49:41.34 programmeral Yeah, yeah. 49:49.75 programmeral Um, yeah, that's a good idea. Let's let's talk about them a little bit. Ah yeah, let's talk about them some more. 49:57.40 tonycam24 Right? So strange is being tortured ah ah by medical equipment which I think is awesomely ah, not awesome, but like good good for you. Evan him all you knew he was a doctor. 50:05.99 programmeral Just oh ah yeah yeah. 50:14.28 tonycam24 Yeah. 50:17.18 programmeral Are are they are they like two sides of the same coin kind of thing did did Ebony Ma What did he used to be a surgeon before he became some super sorcerer kind of guy. 50:23.12 tonycam24 Um I that that was when I was going to talk about evone Mot earlier I was going to ask about the sorcerness is he just telekininetic or is he magic. 50:37.77 programmeral Um, he seems to know about magic and so honestly I have no idea but that's a good point because we don't see him doing like magic spells just just moving stuff with his mind. 50:40.98 tonycam24 Sir. 50:52.38 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah, the reason I um think he's yeah, we just seen him movement of stuff with of mind like we see in guardians volume 2 and later in something we can't spoil a space magic user that guy from the um. 50:55.45 programmeral Um. 51:05.36 programmeral Even yes. 51:08.95 tonycam24 Sobes Sister Lemons Guardians Yeah so I figured like if he were magic. He would be doing Glowy stuff. 51:18.50 programmeral Yeah, that's a good point. Okay, so his his power is just moving stuff with his mind but he also just so happens to know about magic and that it exists. 51:29.31 tonycam24 Yeah I mean these guys are probably pretty knowledgeable. The stones are basically magic. 51:33.59 programmeral Yeah, they've been true. Yeah I mean they've been around the universe they've they've seen some things. 51:39.56 tonycam24 I should have looked up eny mos backstory bus too late now because we're 51 minutes into this movie or into this recording? Yeah um. 51:52.00 programmeral Ah, that's right? but. 51:58.13 tonycam24 so yeah so ah it's up to Tony and clokie and Peter to save strange. Um, yeah. 52:06.30 programmeral And and it's a good thing that the that Spiderman has seen a lot of movies. Yeah. 52:13.21 tonycam24 That's true I mean I don't think ripping a hole in the spaceship pretty much the Alien Method I don't think that's the method I would have gone with because it literally puts everyone in danger. 52:19.18 programmeral You. 52:26.16 programmeral Yeah, but I mean you have I mean Stark will be fine because he's got his suit. Um Spiderman will be fine because he can he can attach to something with the web that yeah yeah, that's right, that's true. Yeah, but he doesn't have like propulsion with the suit. 52:31.12 tonycam24 Get. 52:36.68 tonycam24 Also, he's got a suit. 52:43.35 tonycam24 Okay, okay I thought you would just talk about breathing. But yeah, you're right? You're right. 52:44.69 programmeral Right? that I Guess that's what I mean like oh yeah, there's that. But yeah, start can fly is is really where I was going with that um dar strange. Well he's unconscious. So not the best for him. Ah, but hey you know they they have a flying cloak so they can send the cloak to him and. 53:01.57 tonycam24 Okay, so pretty much they're just endangering doctor strange cool money if strange dies as long as the Avenue Mod dies the stones still fine. 53:02.27 programmeral And it's about it. Yes, yeah. 53:15.50 programmeral Yeah, exactly I got to say Ebony Ma really did just kind of die like a jump in the scene. It's ah. 53:21.52 tonycam24 He did. He is the most powerful for so for like of the 4 of them. Ah so I guess from like a storytelling perspective. Yeah, you want to get that guy like out of there as quickly as possible. 53:26.85 programmeral Yeah. 53:34.18 programmeral Yeah, true. Okay. 53:39.97 tonycam24 Um, yeah, so yeah, they save him they shoot call up city on space. Actually they use the same like musical tone and shot from alien when we see the alien get shot out in the space. He does a Peter says it's aliens. But no, it's a lot. No. Actually they do it twice nevermind they do it in both movies. They do it to the just the alien in the first one and then the the queen in the second one. So I guess he's still accurate. 54:06.87 programmeral Okay I will take your word for it because I don't remember those movies I've seen them all I don't remember them. 54:12.48 tonycam24 Yeah, um, let's see. Yeah so they decide not okay so here's a plot hole that bugs me after end game. Um Steven says. 54:25.36 programmeral Nope. Okay, okay. 54:30.25 tonycam24 Can you fly us back to earth or phi's home right? But Stephen can use the portals to go from plan to planet because they do that in him game. 54:32.52 programmeral Okay. 54:40.65 programmeral So oh yeah. 54:43.88 tonycam24 Yeah, what's stopping him from doing it here I have one bad theory but really doesn't hold up to any scrutiny. Ah he if he opens a portal on a moving spaceship. The porter will just go because the portal stationery. 54:49.27 programmeral Okay, shoot I'm curious what it is. 55:00.29 tonycam24 And the ship won't but like it doesn't work because like planets also move so it wouldn't work that way. 55:07.72 programmeral Yeah, it would probably have the same amount of um, but but momentum So okay, um, yeah, okay, um, yeah I got nothing. Um maybe he just didn't think about it. Maybe he didn't know he could do it. 55:11.22 tonycam24 Yeah, exactly. 55:23.13 tonycam24 Or or maybe it's like against now no because they'd still do in game I go say maybe it's against wizarding law to teleport miners then they can't bring Peter with him. 55:24.61 programmeral Because he's never been to another planet before. 55:41.20 programmeral Is yeah I'm going with. He just didn't know he could do it. This is new to him that's that's all I got yeah, it's not like he does a lot of research right? like we we know from the second one from Dr Strange and the multiverse madness that. 55:41.29 tonycam24 But then they teleport him in end game. Oh okay. 55:52.19 tonycam24 Um, okay. 56:00.71 programmeral As the source of supreme. He got a cool book that has a bunch of information that he did not read. So yeah, he source of supreme right now. No use. No um at the during. 56:05.40 tonycam24 I He never did he ever become sorcer supreme. No, he's not wong Sorcer Supreme oh. 56:20.16 programmeral Spider man no way home. He says that he is no longer sorcer supreme because he was dead for 5 years 56:26.90 tonycam24 Oh okay I thought you meant right now like modern past Multipleverse methods. Okay I get what using right now in this movie. Okay, all right that makes sense. Ah so yeah, he didn't read his book even though he is like. 56:30.30 programmeral Oh sorry? Yes, yes yeah I Yes, yeah right now. Infinity War Yeah sorry. 56:41.45 tonycam24 Ah, super fast reader we learn in his solo movie. Yeah yeah, that's fair. 56:42.16 programmeral Yeah, exactly you just didn't care he Yeah, there's some knowledge in there sure but he didn't need it yet. So why? why learn it. It's it. No, he's good. He's fine. Okay, all right. 56:53.51 tonycam24 Wait I've actually have a theory what if these portals cannot transport infinity stones. Do we ever see him use a portal with the infinity stone in the first movie. And does he ever go through a portal in this movie himself. Damn it he does when he picked up Tony man and when he picked up Tony god damn it I was so I felt so confident. 57:16.69 programmeral Yeah, was good to say I'm pretty sure he does during that fight at the end. Oh yeah, that's true. Yeah, okay, ah so close. Oh well, all right? Um, let's move along This is already a pretty long episode. Um, anything else with these characters just just finishing up. There. The little section wo yeah he got he got Knighted Congrats to him or what's what's the word is is there Another word. No. That's night. Okay, cool. That's to him. 57:32.73 tonycam24 Yeah yep, um, Peter's a a vennger now all right moving on. Yep yeah no knight yeah avenged because he's non Knight. He doesn't he does have armor now all right? Ah, do we want to go space or Scotland yeah, ah that musical cue rubber band man you will be hearing at the end of this episode ah is so sad. 57:51.34 programmeral Ah, that's true. Yes. 57:58.41 programmeral Ah, let's go to space. Let's go talk about the guardians. 58:04.94 programmeral 2 58:09.70 tonycam24 Is so sad that this is the last moment of happiness of pure happiness that they have as a family. 58:16.77 programmeral Oh yeah, yeah, um I didn't think about it that way. But you're right? It's it all goes downhill immediately as soon as they find Thor ah yeah, and I guess it's. 58:29.79 tonycam24 Yep. 58:32.65 programmeral I Don't know if lucky is the right phrase like lucky for the universe that the guardians are the one that noticed the distress signal? Um, but yeah, oh yeah, and just kind of adding to their their happiness. Um I guess like it's a I don't know if tradition is the right word but you have um. 58:39.77 tonycam24 Um, her yeah. 58:51.88 programmeral The patriarch of the family starlord there making everyone listen to his music which I didn't realize before like oh he just you just made everyone listen to his music like it's It's a good thing his mom like good music. Otherwise this could suck. 58:57.52 tonycam24 Um. 59:03.23 tonycam24 Yeah I mean is there no other music in the galaxy is there no music that Rocket or Drags or Gomorra Enjoy or manous. 59:18.43 programmeral Exactly like that was a ah thought that I had I mean first of all, there is other music we see in the guardian's holiday special from this past year Twenty joined two that there's there's that other band who. 59:28.26 tonycam24 Yeah, but they're also using Earth instruments and singing like an earth style song. So I don't know if that counts. 59:36.40 programmeral The well. Okay, it doesn't count that part doesn't count for what you were saying but they're an existing band and they were just learning the human stuff just for the sake of hey Christmas is coming up and we're going to do this thing for startler like that was it but they. 59:48.51 tonycam24 Um, okay. 59:51.87 tonycam24 Okay. 59:55.49 programmeral I Think we have to assume that they play other space music. 59:58.37 tonycam24 All right that that's fair I'm willing to give that to them. Ah so Quil is just super controlling and only wants to listen to these like 30 songs I'm assuming like 15 on the first out of volume and 15 in the second volume from his mom. Oh wait. No. 01:00:02.61 programmeral Okay I. 01:00:16.80 programmeral Well, he has a Zoom now so he yeah so he he got some more and there were probably some songs on there also so given the year. Um, so there's probably probably a mixture of other things I'm sure he's got some some slip knot. 01:00:17.31 tonycam24 He's got the Z you're right. 01:00:29.34 tonycam24 I Hope so. 01:00:33.40 programmeral On there now. Um, yeah, weird al yank of it brittanney got have Britney Spears um yeah 01:00:38.63 tonycam24 I Mean it's gonna be hard listening to we I mean it's gonna be different because he doesn't know the originals that weirddoll parroting but to be fair when I was a little kid listening to it I didn't know all the originals either. So yeah. 01:00:47.81 programmeral Yeah, ah yeah, exactly there are some songs that I need to look up and see if they actually are a parody or an original because some sometimes he does do originals and I just am never sure. Yeah. 01:01:00.14 tonycam24 Yeah, that's true. Yeah, there are a few moments in here of just like the guardians I Thought we're great. Um, Manise is like ah putting on our mean face and just in the background I thought it was cute. 01:01:17.72 programmeral Ah. 01:01:17.76 tonycam24 Um, yeah I don't like want the move part of this movie I don't like which we're not technically there yet but Drags being invisible I think is stupid. Okay, cool. 01:01:28.81 programmeral I Think he really was invisible. Yeah, he he was not there when the camera first shows up for that scene I think he was and then he lost it. Ah. 01:01:37.65 tonycam24 I Think you go back and see the framing. 01:01:43.73 programmeral You You could make the argument that he was he probably was not but I think you can make enough of an argument to to say? Yeah, maybe he was yeah and then he he lost the invisibility as soon as he started trying to eat the this Ark nuts. 01:01:51.80 tonycam24 Okay. 01:01:58.23 tonycam24 Melia with true. Um, yeah, so they pick up ah Thor luckily he can live in space. We know that previously. Um, yeah, and they're all just like fawning over him like. 01:02:11.79 programmeral She list. 01:02:14.18 tonycam24 He's the perfect man which is true Becausetonworth is a beautiful man. 01:02:19.50 programmeral Yeah I can't argue there. Um, okay this this always just feels like an escalation of Thor's power like is he the only as guardian who lived from that explosion or or is that our assumption. 01:02:31.62 tonycam24 It seemed to me that on the ship he was the last as Guardian alive. 01:02:40.16 programmeral Oh okay I didn't think about that. 01:02:43.00 tonycam24 It looked like everyone else was dead except for heimdall loki and ah Thor because I'm assume it's for we know, an end game valkyrie like evacuated everyone else. 01:02:55.83 programmeral Okay, well that makes sense all right? So they left the the fighters on the ship based pretty much okay, got you? Okay, that makes that makes sense enough sense. All I'll take it. He was the only one left alive all right? okay. 01:03:00.62 tonycam24 Yeah, the fighters and Loki. 01:03:12.86 tonycam24 Yeah, um, yeah, so ah, yeah, rocket and Thor Bond instantly over apparently their annoyance at Quill and yes. 01:03:14.33 programmeral But. 01:03:22.86 programmeral Even even. 01:03:27.47 tonycam24 I Do one things I really do enjoy is when he finds out that Gomorra is Fanos his daughter and just like you think he's going to be mad. It's like families can be tough like yes th you understand you've got the. 01:03:33.45 programmeral E. 01:03:40.43 programmeral Me. 01:03:43.85 tonycam24 Most complicated family in the entire mcu. Yeah, so far we're not to the xmen yet when we get the x-men in there. It's going to get way worse. 01:03:48.50 programmeral That's right. 01:03:54.69 programmeral Oh God Yeah, that one will are that'll get hard. But yeah, no I'm I So I know we've talked about this in the past I don't know when or why but you know this is one of those ah one of those things where like someone finds out. Oh this is. 01:04:03.25 tonycam24 And get. 01:04:11.98 programmeral Your family member is an evil person. Well now I can't trust you at all but like obviously she seems to be good person and against Thanos so like yes, it makes perfect sense that Thor would be like okay, yeah man it's families can suck all right? um. 01:04:16.74 tonycam24 Um. 01:04:29.58 programmeral Now Let's move on. They don't have to have that scene where they're fighting or something or just drama for the sake of having the drama So I'm I'm glad that they move past that quickly. 01:04:33.22 tonycam24 Um, yeah, also if yeah, if Thor had to fight the guardians all the guardians would be dead. 01:04:43.38 programmeral That's true. Yeah well rocket might have a bomb I mean I don't know how long it would take him to go to the box and get it. But you might have a bomb that would kill Thor yeah, you're right that god that. 01:04:49.29 tonycam24 Yeah I don't know because like the ship exploded around thor. 01:05:01.17 programmeral And we don't know how long he was just in there in space. It was it could have been a minute. It could have been 6 hours I don't know does he breathe is he breathe air I don't understand. 01:05:03.95 tonycam24 Um, yeah, yeah, yeah, he later in part 2 of this recording that we'll be dropping next Week. We'll talk about him. Literally yelling in space. 01:05:19.53 programmeral Oh hold on there is stuff in space. You can make sound now not not how he yells but they are by or even to. 01:05:25.26 tonycam24 Not yeah, no like yes there is stuff in space. But he's not in a nebula. He knows Nebi or he will know Nebula but he's not in a nebula. 01:05:39.43 programmeral Well actually fun fact. Um, there's like there's just stuff in space. So like there is sound but it's like like you don't have to be in a nebula like it's just but like the problem is so you you talk and you know there's a vibration that'll hit some particle or whatever. Yeah, like. 01:05:53.48 tonycam24 Um, ah other molecule. Yeah. 01:05:58.59 programmeral Thirty feet away and so that'll kind of have a little bit of a sound and that'll push forward and then it'll make a sound so like I'm not describing it very well but there is enough and you can you can look that up on life. Oh okay, well all right. 01:06:09.21 tonycam24 No I Yeah I know that? Ah, but yeah that he cannot what we see later him yelling to Rocket is then not how it works alright. 01:06:18.33 programmeral Yes, no, ah right? Yeah exactly? Yeah yeah, yeah. 01:06:26.44 tonycam24 Anyway, um, yeah, so rocket grew to and ah Thor leaving the pod because literally quill or anyone else could not stop them and then they go to oh good. 01:06:37.66 programmeral Yep, exactly and if oh as you say and if they can't stop him then they can't stop Thanos that's not going to work out for them. Yes, yeah. 01:06:47.51 tonycam24 It's true. Well they're gonna try because they go to nowhere. Um. 01:06:52.94 programmeral Ah, 1 last note actually I have well like while we're talking about all of them on the ship. Um I like that this movie has yet another pissing contest between 2 characters between Thor and star lord except Thor not really trying like he's mentioning. He has like a line here and there that kind of feels like maybe he he knows what's going on. 01:07:04.15 tonycam24 No no. 01:07:10.14 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah, the are you mocking me? Yeah no, he he doesn't care like some really bad stuff to his self-esteem will have to happen for him to care about this so we'll talk about this at the end of endgame. 01:07:11.61 programmeral But he just doesn't care so all right. 01:07:26.59 programmeral Yeah. 01:07:29.72 tonycam24 Yeah, all right? Um, yeah, so ah, we get that scene with invisible drags and then Gomorra promising to kill ah or qui making Quil promise to kill her which. 01:07:43.80 programmeral Yeah, yeah. 01:07:46.75 tonycam24 Don't think there's much to say I mean it's like a deep moment. But yeah, and then they had to know where ah where. 01:08:00.62 tonycam24 He Quil has never taught them about Earth Tactics or hand signals. 01:08:05.63 programmeral I was wondering that because they've been working together for I don't know how many years at this point, 3 4 years together as a team for okay, okay, all right? So in that time they have to have done so at least 1 sneaky mission. 01:08:13.86 tonycam24 4 years yeah me about? yeah. 01:08:23.53 tonycam24 Her. 01:08:25.58 programmeral Which makes me think that he's been doing these symbols for years and they've just never listened to him. 01:08:31.20 tonycam24 That makes sense but like in this situation I feel like Gamora was like a leader of Thanos's armies she should like even if she doesn't know that signal she should respect a signal. 01:08:40.48 programmeral Anything. 01:08:48.14 tonycam24 Draxen drexen um Mantis yeah, they're they're dumb if fine that I understand. 01:08:48.62 programmeral Yeah, for true? Yeah, well also in that moment you know drs his whole thing. He just wants to kill Thanos and so obviously he's not going to listen to star lord um, gomorra. 01:08:59.56 tonycam24 Um, and. 01:09:04.62 programmeral I don't know I mean her mind is racing with things I'm sure it's harder to focus. But then again if she knows exactly how deadly Thanos is she should be extra focused. So maybe it just balances out. 01:09:18.83 tonycam24 Yeah, ah yeah, so Drx is 1 track mine. He needs to doing the same thing he did with Ronan just I'm just going to walk up and try to kill him. He got his ass kicked by Ro Ronan and 01:09:23.10 programmeral Did. 01:09:31.32 programmeral Yeah, that wasn't even a fight at all. 01:09:36.44 tonycam24 Yeah, so like he he should know that Thanos is more dangerous than ruin. Especially yeah, especially with 2 andfinity stones one he knows personally he's. 01:09:41.93 programmeral He should. Yeah, yeah, exactly the the power stone that they that they got. Yeah. 01:10:00.30 tonycam24 Yeah I mean they this movie they dumbed down some of the guardians like Drex has been dumb in guardians too. They dumbed down. Ah ah, Quill in this definitely too. 01:10:07.42 programmeral Just. 01:10:16.50 tonycam24 We'll talk about that in part, 2 and part 3 Yeah I think like they redeemed dog. We can't talk about gardens 3 they regime Drs I'll leave it at that. Yeah yeah. 01:10:17.52 programmeral Oh. 01:10:28.75 programmeral Ah, okay, all right? yeah. 01:10:33.92 tonycam24 So ah, yeah, they see him fanos torturing and I'm looking for the reality zone. So gomorra takes this moment to do exactly what Thor was doing and stab him in the neck. Yeah, how well yeah, so she cries. 01:10:44.59 programmeral Yeah. 01:10:53.20 tonycam24 She stabs him he dies. What did you think about this in the movie like did you think all the crap they actually killed danos. 01:11:01.50 programmeral I mean it ah for like a fraction of a second. Yes, but then I remember there's no way this is him like I don't know what it is I did not see the the twist coming that it was the reality stone. Ah, but they ah. 01:11:03.34 tonycam24 Yeah. 01:11:10.35 tonycam24 Who. 01:11:16.17 programmeral But no, there's no way like we're halfway through this movie and they already killed him unless this is one of those like um the Mandarin and Alt Church killian situations like in iron met 3 but I doubted it I I didn't think that that would would happen but man that if that happened that twist would. 01:11:30.14 tonycam24 Um, yeah. 01:11:34.00 programmeral Crazy you a badge it. 01:11:34.44 tonycam24 Well they kind of do it in endgame right? We expect end game to be about them finding Thanos and they kill them in the first fifteen minutes 01:11:45.12 programmeral That's true. Yeah Spoiler alert for end game. But yes, yeah, you're right? Ah, then they fight him again at the end like what? yeah true. Okay, okay, all. But. 01:11:48.10 tonycam24 Yeah, we can spoil everything except for gardens. Yeah no I know I see I've seen the movie. Um, yeah, so the reality stone. 01:12:03.55 tonycam24 Didn't work like this in Thor the dark world. 01:12:05.57 programmeral No, but no one was really controlling it. 01:12:10.82 tonycam24 Yeah I I mean but this isn't like even similar to what we saw I mean ah malikith what's controlling it right? at the end he was using it as his arms. 01:12:22.60 programmeral Was he okay I don't really remember I'll okay I'll take your word for it I mean I I don't know um something I know from the comics is that when they're together. They're more powerful. 01:12:34.90 tonycam24 Um, yeah. 01:12:37.47 tonycam24 Okay. 01:12:39.83 programmeral So maybe in a sense. He's able to do that because he has 2 more and they kind of work off of each other I don't know or maybe just Thanos has a better imagination than than malichuth. 01:12:48.43 tonycam24 Yeah I mean Also I got figure out how he turned it into a stone. The ather. Yeah, but yeah, we find out. It's not how good good. 01:12:59.84 programmeral It's good point. Yeah, what maybe I was gonna say maybe um, maybe the collector did it for him like he knew exactly what it was and he thought oh this will be better as a stone. 01:13:14.79 tonycam24 Yeah, like I want collect them anyway and they they all match. It's easier to turn one of them into a stone than turning 5 of them into fluids. Yeah, all right? So yeah, so they ah. 01:13:16.66 programmeral Even. Yeah. 01:13:32.00 tonycam24 He captures gemorra and gives ah Quill a chance to kill him and then apparently the bubbles are from the comics I was just like I have this question here like what's up with him in bubbles. 01:13:43.22 programmeral Ah, yeah, yeah I mean that's something I should look up again just to be certain but I did read that around the time this movie came out that those are they existed in comics. Yeah. 01:13:51.30 tonycam24 Okay, yeah, all right? Um, yeah, and then Quill tries and fails to kill her and then he teleports away anything else for with. 01:14:00.49 programmeral Is he. 01:14:06.20 tonycam24 The guardians or nowhere. 01:14:08.47 programmeral Um, let's see you know I only have 1 other note groot such a teenager. Ah yeah, ah, that's it. That's all I had. 01:14:12.94 tonycam24 Again, he really is yeah all right? and then finally Scotland ah no go ahead. 01:14:19.51 programmeral All right? So we've got to oh sorry god yeah, so we've got Wanda Andvision there they seem to be sneaking away for their their trips every so often and I was wondering. Do you think everyone knows. 01:14:35.79 tonycam24 Um, earth. 01:14:39.15 programmeral That they're doing that to get like like when vision leaves and because he always keeps his tracker on but when he he does he goes on one of these trips with Wanda like do other people know that that's what he's doing because I assume. 01:14:52.80 tonycam24 I don't I don't think they vision I don't think Stark knows where vision what vision does I think Natasha Steve um ah Sam know what Wanda's doing 01:14:58.79 programmeral Okay. 01:15:06.14 programmeral Okay, that makes sense all right that that makes lot more sense. Yeah, all right? So Anyways, yeah, so we we see them they they start and visions having like some issues with the the minestone in his head but and they just ignored I'm sure he'll be fine and then they go out for a nice little walk. 01:15:09.20 tonycam24 Yeah. 01:15:23.48 tonycam24 Um, yeah. 01:15:26.10 programmeral Um, and so vision is trying to propose right that I interpret that correctly he's trying to propose to Wanda Okay, okay, okay, cool and she might have said Yes, we don't know she probably would have but her her response was ah. 01:15:31.70 tonycam24 Yeah, that's that's why I thought as well. 01:15:38.25 tonycam24 Yeah. 01:15:43.42 programmeral Delayed by seeing the news of the attack in New York and then subsequently fission being attacked and her also just for being there. 01:15:44.69 tonycam24 And. Yeah, so there are a lot of couples in the mccu right? A lot of romantic possibilities. Maybe it's because of Wanda division. But this is the only romantic relationship I care about in the entire marble Sin I Give that's art. Okay, that in the films. 01:15:53.94 programmeral Thank you. 01:16:05.22 programmeral Ah. 01:16:08.90 tonycam24 And Marvel Studio stuff fit simmons will always have my heart but this is my other heart. Yeah. 01:16:10.32 programmeral Oh yes, Yes, yeah, that's a good point like I'm trying to think of other relationships that we see and I see. 01:16:18.68 tonycam24 Oh no I really care about mj and Peter I have no I have no way home stuck in my head so was like that scene like when they split up. It's like oh so sad. 01:16:28.34 programmeral Ah, yeah, that's true I Honor the the problem that I had with with that relationship was kind of a problem same problem I have with a lot of these others where like we see a little bit of them like together. But we don't. We don't see like a journey and so I don't Care. It's It's more like hey this scene happened Okay now audience you're supposed to know that they're together. Okay moving on and. 01:16:47.46 tonycam24 Ah. 01:16:52.90 tonycam24 Um, yeah I feel like the journey was in far from home though. 01:16:56.35 programmeral It It was yeah I just didn't think it was that strong and and that's why for for me, that's that's why I never thought it was it was that great. But but yeah, yeah. 01:17:00.72 tonycam24 Okay, and this where. 01:17:08.59 tonycam24 Yeah, but yes, so they're going to stay together forever. Whether vision's alive or not. We'll find out later. Yeah. 01:17:20.27 programmeral Yep, yes, we will so they have a whole fight scene Atkin scene some back and forth. Um and then then they get some backup so we see a cap Falcon and. 01:17:26.88 tonycam24 Ah. 01:17:33.70 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah, so we've got 2 of these so arguably the strongest avengers who are on the team right now or um in the mcu right now because it's a pre Captain Marvel um yeah I know that? ah. 01:17:35.59 programmeral Black Widow show up. 01:17:46.38 programmeral Um. 01:17:50.88 tonycam24 Ah, vision has been stabbed and he's wounded but like Wanda can't take these guys but the 3 melee fires where 2 of them aren't even superpowered are able to to defeat these guys. So. 01:18:05.32 programmeral Yeah I mean my my interpretation of that was they were caught off guard Wanda specifically caught off guard. Um and she had to keep looking out for vision and so there's that that's kind of all I've got. 01:18:11.92 tonycam24 Ah. 01:18:18.58 tonycam24 Yes. 01:18:21.35 programmeral And then she hadn't really unlocked her power as much as from when we see her later in the Mcu. So. 01:18:29.23 tonycam24 Yeah, that's true. We she just get some bursts of power like when vision's in moral danger. Ah yeah, but like is she's a volatile person. She's we know from one division She has a lot of trauma she needs therapy. 01:18:33.19 programmeral If it. 01:18:41.82 programmeral Yes. 01:18:46.93 tonycam24 Unfortunately, she Tony doesn't I that's probably not part of their health care plan because Tony seems like it strikes me as a guy who doesn't really go to therapy he talks to Bruce banner. Yeah yeah. 01:18:51.10 programmeral Yeah. 01:18:58.35 programmeral Exactly Yeah, that's why he wanted someone with a ah doctorate on the team. 01:19:05.59 tonycam24 This true all right I I have more stuff to say but we've been doing this for an hour 19 minutes so ah gomorra gets adopted by Thanos all right I feel like we're done with our heroes. Okay. 01:19:15.60 programmeral Okay I did have a little bit for that that last one division thing. Um so fun fact there was a draft early on where cap doesn't show up here. He doesn't show up until the third act. Yeah, and then they realized that and thought. 01:19:21.45 tonycam24 Okay. 01:19:28.78 tonycam24 Oh. 01:19:33.33 programmeral Yeah, no, that's dumb but they had to so they they pulled him in here and I don't know if the other two shut up or or not but um, but cap showing up here which is cool because it was such a a cool scene and that that fight scene is like that's what you wanted in it in an Avengersville was my thought like that. 01:19:42.70 tonycam24 Oh yeah. 01:19:49.77 tonycam24 A. 01:19:51.36 programmeral 30 seconds right there I thought was one of the best scenes of this film like if if I'm flipping through the channels or something and I know we were close to that scene I stay in watch because I'm um I got to see that scene. It's just so good. Yeah. 01:19:54.39 tonycam24 Oh yeah. 01:20:00.32 tonycam24 Yeah I mean cap you got you guys heard this bunch of times Cap is my favorite mccu hero. He doesn't get a lot in this movie. But what he does is pretty good. 01:20:15.34 programmeral Yep, exactly? yeah, all right cool. So that's it for heroes Tony anything else all right? Well all right? take a quick quick break for these ads because we've been paid so we got to. We got to read them off for you and then we'll talk about other things for a lot less time. 01:20:20.79 tonycam24 Yep, no not for heroes. 01:20:32.52 programmeral Trust me Tony what do these 3 places have in common Zandar nowhere in Scotland. 01:20:44.53 tonycam24 I'm they have stones there. Ah. 01:20:48.32 programmeral That's right, they all have infinity stones. Maybe it's off. Maybe it's just on display for all to see or maybe it's on a robot walking around this message is brought to you by the tourism board of infinity stones where ah out i'm. I'm so sorry I just found out that none of those places have stones anymore. Um, this is a developing story so we're we're not going to go into it I don't want to say anything that could be wrong, but um, just use use pro code rewind to ah. You know nothing. You can't use it. No don't use the the proma code for anything this week 01:21:22.16 tonycam24 I was so excited to check out Zandar all right? This let's move on to our villains Thanos he destroys Xandar or decimated. 01:21:26.26 programmeral Yeah I bet you were oh well. Yeah, he did? Yeah yeah, decimated them off camera before this movie even started. 01:21:42.31 tonycam24 Yeah, this was another thing I heard like originally it was go start with a prologue of him invading xandar but I agree with her choice not to do that is like they don't need it. There are no characters there. We care about except for John C Riley and I want see him die. 01:21:47.31 programmeral Is just. 01:22:00.54 programmeral Yeah, yeah, he's a good guy. Yeah, um, yeah, you're right I I Never really thought about it it. It would be cool to just start with some cool cgi battle but it it's. 01:22:01.43 tonycam24 Yeah. 01:22:11.70 tonycam24 Yep. 01:22:13.91 programmeral Yeah, and then I assumed they would go after Thor I don't I don't know how that would would work how they would have done it. But yeah. 01:22:19.25 tonycam24 Yeah I feel like we will see that in the future. Um, they're working on a Nova Tv show and if you know anything about the character Nova Ah he is part of the Nova core. 01:22:25.67 programmeral Oh yeah. 01:22:33.50 tonycam24 But what happens in the novacore in the comics is like if a novacare core character dies or a member of the Nova car dies their power like transfers to the rest of novaco. But what happens in the comics that I can't remember what happens it might be thanas might be someone else, but. 01:22:42.34 programmeral Me. 01:22:49.56 tonycam24 All the Novo Corps die except for him and he gets all the powers of all the no core like all the strength and stuff like that. So I feel like that would be a scene in the nova movie ah because it will show the decimation what happened in nova car of core and how he got his powers. 01:22:54.10 programmeral E. 01:23:05.32 programmeral Yeah, so it'll be probably be a lot like the movie the 1 but better. 01:23:09.83 tonycam24 Yes I remember saying that back in like two thousand or two thousand and one and you know what? even back then I didn't think it was good but liked I like yeah you know I mean as we know multiverse stuff. We'll never catch on. 01:23:17.60 programmeral Yeah, same. 01:23:27.85 tonycam24 so ah um so yeah so he gets his second finny sword because we talked a lot about Thanos already. So we don't have to spend the mom about this ah, when he gets his second infiny stone. He takes off his iconic armor because he doesn't need anymore. He's got power. He's got space. 01:23:31.33 programmeral Ah. 01:23:35.12 programmeral Yeah, yeah. 01:23:41.97 programmeral E. 01:23:47.19 tonycam24 You'll need armor if you got space power. 01:23:48.43 programmeral I I guess yeah that part felt a little weird like like at first I'm like oh okay, cool. He's got a lot of power but like well none of those are armor I guess I don't know maybe this is one of those things where like. 01:23:56.43 tonycam24 I Mean the power stone I could say but he already had that. So. 01:24:05.10 programmeral Like yes obviously these 6 stones have the thing. The 1 thing that they control but you know if you're able to wield 2 of them at once you just also just happen to have more power around you and so you just don't need armor. So. 01:24:09.24 tonycam24 Yeah. 01:24:17.00 tonycam24 Well yeah I mean that's what Evan and law says like no creature has ever had to in vidi sense which I find that actually hard to believe that tatas is the first one to try to get these or even. 01:24:22.38 programmeral No. 01:24:29.88 programmeral Yeah, apparently he is. 01:24:32.95 tonycam24 Succeed enough to get 2 of them. 01:24:36.22 programmeral Apparently he is. 01:24:42.22 tonycam24 I'm looking at the rest of fan of stuff and we kind of talked about him in the character stuff in the hero stuff. 01:24:45.96 programmeral Yeah, yeah, we've we've already talked a lot about him I don't have any other notes to talk about him. 01:24:52.87 tonycam24 Um, ah all right moving on the guy in the chair. Um Heim Doll can just like summon dark energy whenever he feels like it well and he only felt like it once. 01:25:07.60 programmeral Well I mean I guess right? he he had to have that whole look the mini speech right? He was like ah hey was it ancestors yes I forgot who it was but he asked to like 8 often? Yeah, like hey come on give yeah give me give me this one I'm about to die. Just. 01:25:09.99 tonycam24 All It's like all fathers or something like that like odin and boring. 01:25:22.47 programmeral Just let me some of the bifrost one more time. That's all I need. Ah so yeah I guess. 01:25:26.85 tonycam24 Okay, and and then he died. Ah I was trying to figure out like why did he send him a banner to theyctum sanctorum I do you think it's because Thor told him about Dr Strange helping them out so it's like I guess this guy is a good connection. 01:25:45.59 programmeral Maybe yeah, that probably would have come up. Um, he sees all though right like he's he he knows about everything does that does that mean literally everything like he can he he just always knows what's going on throughout the entire universe. 01:25:55.19 tonycam24 I know I think he can see all I don't think he does actively see all. He's like if he turns his eye somewhere. He'll be able to find it. Yeah, he was very distracted throughout Thor Red Rock so 01:25:59.90 programmeral Oh okay, all right that makes more sense. 01:26:14.38 tonycam24 I Don't think he was just watching yep all right anything else for guys in chair. 01:26:14.87 programmeral That's true. Yeah, he was trying to survive and help people get away. Okay, all right true. Go um oh ah, 1 quick note about pepper. Um. 01:26:27.10 tonycam24 Yeah. 01:26:30.40 programmeral When ah, she's talking to Tony Stark um apparently she is able to finish his sentences. Not his sandwiches so take that. However you will about their relationship on if it's a good one or a bad one. That's your choice but I'm not I'm not going to weigh in on it. Yeah. 01:26:36.76 tonycam24 Who. 01:26:44.59 tonycam24 Yeah, it's true. Um I feel like ned had a heroic moment with his 1 line of dialogue. Yeah, yeah, yep, but trustee guy in the chair right moving on 12% the plan 01:26:50.25 programmeral Oh yeah, that's right, We're all gonna die you. That's right. 01:27:02.40 tonycam24 If you have anything. Okay. 01:27:04.58 programmeral I do actually have two things. Ah so one? Um, okay so this has bothered me for years. So in that scene in Scotland where we see um Wanda envision just walking around. Um the. 01:27:12.91 tonycam24 Boom. 01:27:20.68 programmeral Little shop that where they see like the the news stuff on it has a little sign that says we will deep fry your kaba and for years I thought that meant does that mean that you could just like walk in with a kabob and they'll deepry it like no that makes no sense. So I I asked a friend someone that I do know that that lives in Scotland. 01:27:34.21 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah. 01:27:40.64 programmeral And as I was typing it I realized oh you can order it deep fried so I realized okay I'm stupid but I sent the message anyway and apparently that's just a common thing out in Scotland they like to you know, just deep fry. Whatever all those hole in the wall kind of places they do that. So ah. 01:27:43.78 tonycam24 A. 01:27:54.99 tonycam24 Yeah fried I hear fried food is very popular has Scotland this in general. Yep, it's true. Yep. 01:28:00.96 programmeral Yeah, makes sense I mean we love it here in the Us. So obviously other countries would love it too. So yeah, all right? Ah so there was that the other thing I have for 12% tony do you think the collector is dead because. 01:28:13.94 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah, yeah, so far. 01:28:17.72 programmeral Because we don't see him again in the mcu so far right? Um, and he had the stone and we do know that from ah the what if ah cartoon. Um, if Thanos wasn't the big bad guy with a bunch of power. The collector would be a guy with a ton of power I mean he he has to have a ton of power just to be able to have that kind of collection anyway. But do you think he he tried to fight Thanos and he got b and died. 01:28:37.50 tonycam24 If. 01:28:48.74 tonycam24 Um I I don't think he's a fighter I think I bet he capitulated very quickly. Um in the comics aren't they like Immortal beings him and the grandmaster his cousin. 01:28:52.66 programmeral Okay, all right? okay. 01:29:01.74 programmeral Something like I I don't really know but I think it's something to that effect? Yeah, okay. 01:29:05.86 tonycam24 Yeah, so I assume he's out there. They can never get benizio Del Toro back for for what I don't know. Yeah, yeah, same here. 01:29:10.62 programmeral Yeah, true, no good. Yeah okay, cool. That's it. That's all I had cool all right? So thank you everyone for listening to this first third or rewind of the first third of avengers infinity war I know it's. But a little long but come on. It's a big movie like there's there's a lot that happens. Of course we have a lot to say and I'm sure you have a lot to say and that you want to hear us talk about so with that we'll go ahead and close out and you can ah hear us in your ear holes in a week talking about the next section. So. Ah, that next section will be the middle portion of the movie. It'll be minute 54 to minute 1 hour and 36 so this is when team cap arriving at the av adventures compound to Thor deciding to hold hold open the Iris of at donenidevalier. Anyway, and then in the meantime please remember to give us a rating on Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcast app and anyway this is Marro cinematic rewind signing off. 01:30:12.58 tonycam24 Have a marvelous day.