00:03.66 tonycam24 Welcome to the Marvel cinemac rewind the podcast that rewatches reviews and rediscovers our secret identities for every movie show and one shot in the marvel cinemac universe I'm Tony Cameina and you can follow us on Twitter at mccu underscore rewind and give us a 5 00:14.27 programmeral And I'm a Rodriguez. 00:22.99 tonycam24 10 or 15 start rating whichever one they allow which is really the best thing you can do for any podcast and with that today's episode is our moonlight prediction episode and we have a guest as we usually do for our predictions episodes Sean from the caption light podcast. Thank you Sean for coming. 00:40.26 Sean Hey thanks for having me on I'm excited to be here. 00:43.20 tonycam24 Yeah, we're excited to have you. 00:46.34 programmeral Yeah, and if anyone um, recognize that voice. Um, and you listen to other mc related podcasts we stole Sean um, who has been on. Um mc you need to know before and also on a tk show. There was an idea and so which is where. 01:06.12 tonycam24 The. 01:06.31 programmeral We know him from and so that's why that's why we were like hey hey you want to join ours and he very politely. Um said yes after I bugged him many many times. No no, he was very nice. Ah. 01:17.41 Sean Ah I was want to say I think I think I provided media is like Yes, let's do this to like tonight is that when we're doing it. Ah. 01:23.69 tonycam24 Yeah. 01:25.95 programmeral Ah, ah, no, no, you're you're very nice I was just trying to make a joke and then stubbled because I made the joke. Um, you know in the moment. Not ahead of time which happens way too often. Ah. 01:37.60 tonycam24 Al Al likes to plan things out and when he doesn't this happens. So. 01:41.10 Sean Ah I get that not a problem. 01:45.56 programmeral It's a it's a common problem all right Sean 8 tell everyone about yourself and anything you want to plug. 01:51.11 Sean Yeah, so my name is Sean Wenningham and I am a co-host of the podcast called the caption life with my co-host Kevin Stolicker and we've been doing the podcast for a few years now and we kind of run the gamut in terms of what we talked about. So we're. Focus on comics and pop culture but our podcasts has a wide variety of different kinds of episodes so we'll do tv and film reviews on popular com book movies and Tv series. We'll have guests on the show who are involved in comics ander studio in some level so we've had. Um, some com book writers and artists on the show to talk about their their latest work. We've had other people who have been inspired by comics or pop culture that really is part of. Who they are in terms of their identity and things like that. So we've had like cos players on the show before we're going to have somebody who does a lot of cosplay props that's coming on the show. Um, and we've had people who just really love comics and said it's a huge part of their life so we had somebody on the show that. 02:50.45 tonycam24 Ah. 03:00.70 Sean Is actually a dean of the school of arts and sciences I think at a university and his specialties. Actually you know the history of comics and so he talked to us a little bit about how comics have ah been a huge um has had a huge impact on society and he actually had a great story about how. Um, comics was used ah there was a comic that I think I forget which country was was during the um, the arab spring where they were talking about how to peacefully protest what was going on and they use a comic that talked about Dr Martin Luther King to use that as educational materials and so um, so we did a lot of episodes like that and we also you know sometimes it's just me Kevin talking about. Ah you know topics that we're really interested in so we have an episode that's coming out at some point that's talking about the heroes we love and the villains or I'm sorry the the villains we love and the heroes we hate. 03:57.26 tonycam24 Ah. 03:59.30 Sean Um, so we kind of do just a little bit everything that as long as it talks about comics and pop culture on some level then that's what we talk about. But um, but we enjoy doing it. It's a lot of fun and I'm really excited to be part of it because then I get to connect with people like you guys where we can actually talk about. Um, all the things that we love you know fandoms and and geeky stuff that we haven't been able to ah you know with people around us just because you know sometimes you might be the only geek in the room when you're at a party or something like that and so it's nice to have. 04:19.79 tonycam24 L. 04:33.53 Sean Things like podcasts and social media to be able to geek out with stuff with other people as well too. So um, in addition to that I'm also a Tv film reviewer for a website called http://comicwatch.com that's a grassroots organization everybody that's part of it is um is our volunteer so we don't get paid for doing these reviews and so it's a. Make sure of people who review comics anime. Um you know, current events and Tv and films this I write reviews for Tv and films as well too or a Tv yeah tv and films as well too. So yeah. 05:02.90 tonycam24 Awesome. 05:03.39 programmeral Nice all right? Well after that awesome intro um to some stuff I'm looking forward to listening to later. Um, let's ah, let's talk about the show. So really quickly whenever we do our prediction episodes and results. Our usual spoiler policy is suspended. So as of right now a assumeup that we will talk about anything that has happened in the mccu. So if you have yet to see season 3 of the runaways we might talk about it I have no idea why it would come up but it might happen. Ah all right? And here's a quick rundown of. How these predictions work assuming that this is your first episode that you're listening to um so each of the 3 of us have brought 2 questions. Plus we also have 2 questions that we always ask so we have a total of 8 questions we will make all of these predictions now before we've seen any episode and some point later down the line. Roughly six weeks from now we will record a separate results episode to add up our points and see who is the winner as of right now if you want to go to our website http://mcrewind.com and click on the prediction results tab in the top right? You'll see the. Ah, results of all of the previous predictions that we've done and right now Tony and I are tied for the lead. We each have five wins so I'm hoping this is a tie breaker preferably for myself. But we'll see what happens then again, maybe sean'll will come in and and just get like. 06:23.00 tonycam24 So. 06:36.43 tonycam24 Yeah. 06:36.73 programmeral 7 of these 8 right? We have no idea we'll see what happens all right? um and before we actually do our predictions. Let's talk about moonlight and what we know Tony what? What? What do you know about moonlight. 06:49.34 tonycam24 Ah, the first thing I could tell you about moonlight is that he is a star of that panel that's photoshopped but still the greatest panel in history where he's talking smack to Dracula um, that was like. For the longest time. That's all I knew about moonlight and then I found out my life was a lie because that's not even a real panel. Um, ah secondly my I have a friend who kind likes moonlight and I asked him like when the show got announced but is like his deal and he's like imagine if even. Ah, Bruce Wayne didn't know that Bruce Wayne with Batman and that's a moonlight so it got me a little more excited. Um, recently through the Marvel limited app I have been like reading a few moonnight comics just like a few from like volume I think I started like volume 4 5 and like. Get some more like his modern interpretation. So I know a little bit about moonlight I'm no, not even close and expert. Ah, he's one of those characters who I like I said before the show was announced I like saw the costume on. Like memes and stuff but I didn't know anything about him. 08:04.42 programmeral All right? Sean what? What do you know about moonlight. 08:08.33 Sean Absolutely nothing I I haven't heard of moonlight really until somebody that was on our podcast actually talked about that was their favorite. Um, character and I remember thinking like I've never heard of this guy before but okay and then you know when they announced that they were going to have a moonnight series. Basically the only thing and I still only know what? Um, we've seen from the trailers basically in terms of the character and and I'm. Kind of planning on doing that because they've been doing a little bit more of their um, not as popular properties for their films in the mccu lately which I really enjoy and so I like the fact I I can go into a show and kind of enjoy the show and the character. 08:53.86 tonycam24 Ever. 09:03.81 Sean For the way it is and and its portrayal versus going to see something like you know Captain America or x-men or daredouil where you've read the comics and you kind of have an idea of what that character is to you and everything like that and so you have some sort of expectation with moonlight. And don't have any sort of expectation other than Oscar Isaac has been a great actor and he looks like he's doing amazing job here. The only other thing that I've also discerned is that from the trailer. It seems like the character the you know the identities mostly playing. A little bit different from what we see in the comics I think because I think in the comics. It's usually he's playing Mark Spector and it sounds like that's not who's going to be at least in the beginning of the series. So um I don't wanna dive too much into it. But yeah, so the only thing I really know about the character is that he is. Just like what you're saying Marvel's equivalent of Batman in a sense and just what we've seen from the trailers. So. 10:01.87 programmeral All right? Um, so I know a bit. Um I ah use. So I I have read a decent amount of moonlight comics. Um, it's been a while so I don't remember a lot. 10:01.98 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah, how what do you know about moonlight. 10:15.53 Sean M. 10:21.27 programmeral Um, moonlight has had some weird stories like it seems like like you you get a a story arc and then that story ends and then they don't do a moonnight comic for like a year and then someone else gets the the title at least that's what I remember or maybe I just didn't read it for a year That also could be what happened? Um, so I have vague memories of moonlight I remember enjoying reading the moonlight comics but I always remember some things like like there was a big history that I didn't know about like for example. 10:48.68 Sean E. 10:58.44 programmeral I know moonlight fights werewolves I don't know why where that comes in Maya suck. Yeah yeah, exactly well like it. 11:01.27 tonycam24 Ah. 11:03.27 Sean Ah, just what he does. Ah. 11:09.20 tonycam24 He's like he's like the moon if that's my turf where are you doing werewolves. 11:09.69 Sean Ah. 11:15.50 programmeral That's all I can think of yes, so um, so like I have vague memories of of moonlight as a character. Um, the only non-superhero name the persona that he goes by is. 11:15.61 Sean Right. 11:29.38 programmeral Mark Spector like that's the only one I remember and I know that there were a few more don't remember anything about them. So ah, yeah, so this is this is gonna be interesting on the bright side because it's the mccu and we know that there are always. 11:29.99 Sean Button right. 11:45.80 programmeral Quite a few changes that they'll do to you know modernize The character make the character fit in this universe that kind of stuff having that comic knowledge. Not always the best. So I think we're all in a really similar boat. 11:56.60 Sean Right? right. 11:58.81 tonycam24 It's definitely true. 11:59.70 programmeral All right? So let's let's talk about this. Let's let's make some predictions so we'll go around the room virtually of course because we're not in the same room or state. So I'll start with my questions because I always put mine at the top. Ah. 12:10.32 tonycam24 Yeah. 12:19.46 programmeral First question the moonlight character has multiple personas including moonlight himself how many personas will we see in the show Tony how many do you think we'll see. 12:28.26 tonycam24 All right? So in the trailer and posters and promotional material I discern that there are four that we see for sure. We've got moonlight. We've got Mr. Knight. We've got um Mark Spector and we've got Steven. And which we can't keep because we've already got 2 Steve's in the mccu you um but he's there. Ah so I'm just based on nothing based not even on my very little comic book knowledge I'm gonna say there are 6 personalities. 12:49.51 Sean E. 13:04.11 tonycam24 I'm just I'm just throwing a number out there I'm sure there's at least 1 but possibly 2 We haven't seen yet. 13:12.32 Sean Ah I love that I Love How was this like for no reason whatsoever. Ah, ah, ah yeah. 13:16.55 tonycam24 What I know is not lesson for. 13:21.73 programmeral Ah, all right? Ah, all right? Sean what do you think? how many personas are we gonna see from this individual physical being. 13:31.20 Sean Yeah, so um, you know I I agree that we've seen four so far from the promos in the trailers like we haven't seen. What's been dubbed like Mr Knight in a trailer I don't think but we've seen the posters for it which I find really fascinating and so again not knowing the character I'm assuming that it's almost a um, an identity of moonlight that's not moonlight so I'm assuming that those are two separate. 13:49.46 tonycam24 Ah. 14:05.61 Sean Personality and I guess that's the question I have as well too is that is moonnight a different identity than the Mark Spector and the other ones that are in the show that like I don't know. Yeah you know I I don't know good cause again, we we don't know the comics very well obviously but um. 14:15.47 tonycam24 Yeah, ah. 14:24.89 Sean Assuming those things that we talked about that. Mr. Knight is an identity moonlight is an identity Mark specter then I the Steve I forget his last name that but you mentioned him I'm going to say there's probably 5 and and the reason why I'm saying 5 is I feel like they're setting up to show. 14:32.52 tonycam24 Ah. 14:42.97 Sean To show another identity that maybe Steven and Mark have to work maybe together to dispel this other identity that they have that's actually causing all the trouble. Um. And so I think it would be interesting to see if that's the route they go is that there's another identity that they have to you know quote unquote um you know work with to um, get kind of things under control I guess for you know all the chaos that's being released that we've seen them the trailer you know, especially that one scene where. We see Stephen you know in the in the like milk truck or whatever it is with a gun and he clearly has no idea how he got there. Why he's holding a gun and things like that. So I wonder if they have to work together with the identities to you know, try to um you know contain the chaos that's being caused. By them because my guess is Mark Spector is probably not causing the chaos and I think that's what they want you to think so that's going to be my guess is there's probably going to be 5. 15:42.93 tonycam24 All right? are you doing price right? stuff. You're just closest without going over so you're going 1 beneath me Sean all right. 15:44.72 programmeral Okay, um. 15:48.34 Sean Yeah, I'm just going to go 1 underneath you yes, ah well I could be bold be like no I think it's just 2 this whole time. Ah. 16:01.88 programmeral So I you brought up a really good question right? like does is moonite going to be a new persona or is this like for example, Mark Spector is it just Mark Spector in a suit or Steve in a suit. Um, which is a good question right? Ah because that's one of the things about. Some of the superhero stuff like sometimes it's yeah, it's just this person in a suit other times. It's no I'm always you know the superhero I'm just not the superhero sometimes which is I think usually more on the Dc side of stuff. But um, as far as. 16:31.86 Sean Right. 16:39.33 programmeral Um, answering this this question how many of these personas we're going to see um I am I too am going to go prices right rules and go with 4 Um, so I did not do the amount of work that Tony did of watching the. 16:46.85 Sean Ah, ah, nice. 16:47.93 tonycam24 Ah. 16:58.96 programmeral Ah, trailers and try to figure out an answer to this because that would have been a smart idea instead I just I don't know I just four why not that seems sounds like a good number. But. 17:04.21 Sean Mm. 17:09.36 tonycam24 All right I'm here's hoping for like 50 and like I'm the closest. 17:20.30 Sean Ah, well it kind of puts me like right and like I have to be right? Otherwise I have no chance. Ah. 17:20.80 programmeral All right. 17:23.73 tonycam24 Yeah. 17:29.71 programmeral All right? Well, we'll see what happens in six or so weeks ah all right? Let's do the next question previews have shown 2 different moon night. Costumes how many in total. Will we see during the show. Sean. What do you think. 17:48.61 Sean Um. 17:55.39 Sean I'll go with or we talk about moonnight costumes specifically. Okay, honestly I'll probably go with three I feel like there's probably going to be one that they haven't shown that they want to keep under wraps a little bit. Um. 17:58.33 tonycam24 Yeah. 18:11.58 Sean So I'm going to go with 3 18:12.58 tonycam24 Yeah, I'm just going to cut in here because I also said 3 I'm thinking that there's probably like a flashback to an ancient moonlight or something and he's got like a more ancient egyptian style one which I would count which I will argue for if that's actually true. 18:23.80 Sean Right? yeah. Ah, well and it's funny about that up because I was thinking like what if they do like some sort of like montage where they kind of do a call out to all the classic suits like what they did in cat and Marvel and and things like that so that so I would that would be something I would be happy to be wrong if they show those classic suits in that sort of way. So. 18:37.89 tonycam24 The. 18:46.70 tonycam24 Yeah. 18:47.19 programmeral Yeah, um I mean I mean and it makes sense right? if they if they do the the old one that you Tony would would argue for the points. So ah, ah so I I too was thinking 3 um, it's like all right well makes sense. They're not going to make. A ton of costumes for this character. But then again, maybe they'll do a fourth so I'm going to double down of what I said earlier and say 4 again. 19:09.75 tonycam24 To to. 19:15.50 Sean Ah, so do you get points if you're the closest or do you have to be exactly right? ah. 19:20.73 programmeral Oh no, we're we're never exactly right? Um, we. 19:23.86 tonycam24 So how the results will work is if we are dead on you get 2 points but we are allowed to be partially right and also argue for partial points. So that's the fun of the result episode is arguing for. 19:29.18 Sean M. 19:36.43 Sean Oh nice. Okay. Well I would create a powerpoint presentation explaining why I should get all the points. Ah. 19:43.23 tonycam24 Partial points. Ah um, yeah, the the we might audit this out. But the thing I liked about spidta man is like the sinnerser sixth question is like we had arguments that Dr Strange was actually a bad guy. 20:01.63 Sean In. 20:02.56 tonycam24 Or the per the dean of admissions who didn't really let them in was the sixth member. The sinsors her sticks stuff like that like we were stretching it because we all thought there was going be a sixth member but there were actually fiveville yeah. 20:14.77 Sean Yeah, yeah, yeah, ah well you could still argue that strange was probably a sixth member. He just didn't realize it. 20:22.45 tonycam24 Yeah, exactly all right? Um, but moving on to my questions because I'm the second host apparently al all right. Um, my question is a moonite gets his power from kasu that's not a question the Egyptian Moon god is the em version of Kach you an alien is he from another ah universe or is he something else? Um Sean we'll start with you this time. 20:58.21 Sean Um, you know I'm going to say they're probably going to stick with the mythos here of him being an egyptian god so I don't think it's going to be an alien or being from universe I think it's going to be um, a. Ah, ded that exists kind of like what they've done with um with Hercules and all that and the Marvel comics I think it's it's probably going to stay true to the egyptian god and Andre not you know, red con into a alien or anything like that. 21:18.70 tonycam24 Move. 21:27.56 tonycam24 Okay, um, al What do you think. 21:31.46 programmeral Um, so I I definitely agree something not Alien but I do think it'll be something mystical, um not specifically from Earth probably something from like a different dimension. Um, and I. 21:45.42 Sean E. 21:48.85 programmeral By dimension I don't mean like alternate timeline I mean like they'll say the phrase dimension. So. 21:52.89 tonycam24 Like like the dark dimension or by they not necessarily the dark dimension but like another plane of existence to use D and D terminology. Yeah. 22:00.67 programmeral Right? exactly? Yeah yeah. 22:02.92 Sean I tell you what all if they do say dimension I think you should get 2 points for that or 3 points because you'll get it right? but 3 points just for no being that specific to. 22:13.77 programmeral But I so when we did our hawkeye um results. This was the only time I've ever gotten like dead on with adding all this extra stuff and I still only got the 2 points. Ah I'm still proud of that I will I will. 22:17.59 tonycam24 So. 22:18.89 Sean Ah. 22:28.74 Sean Ah, what was it can I ask. 22:32.73 programmeral Ah, yeah, the the question was um around. Um oh I can't remember her name black widow sister. Um yes, yes, I'm so bad with names anyway, um Elena shows up she we know from trailer. She's bad will she turn and I said you know what. 22:39.40 Sean Ah, Elena bolova. 22:40.31 tonycam24 Ah, Elena. 22:51.87 programmeral She's going to show up and she will be an enemy of the Hawkeyes for two and a half episodes and she will turn at the end partially because Kate has a dog and it fit. 23:01.17 tonycam24 It and you know I I make fun of al so much because his achilles healing these is he gives too much detail and I go vague. Well. 23:04.54 Sean Ah, all right? Yeah, so. 23:13.69 programmeral But. 23:16.41 Sean Ah, that's true because you're just like I'm just gonna go with 6 on this one? Ah ah, no more no last no reason. Ah, that's awesome. 23:19.26 tonycam24 Um, yeah, exactly yeah um, as for Kachu for me. Um. 23:24.10 programmeral Me. 23:36.26 tonycam24 I'm actually changing my answer from what I typed I'm changing you right now just to have a different answer from the 2 of you I'm goingnna say he's an alien I'm going to say um I my answer is he's an alien I'm going to give details by. Do not want to submitted as part of my answer. 23:57.61 tonycam24 I'm going to say he is connected to the vibraium in waconda just because people in hollywood don't understand geography and realize how far waconda is from Egypt but they just know that they're both in Africa. So. 24:12.52 Sean Nice. 24:15.43 tonycam24 Yeah, but no I think I'm gonna say he's an alien and that's my answer. 24:18.16 Sean You know people say aliens are the one that helped built the pyramid so you may not be too far off from that. 24:22.24 tonycam24 Yeah, that's that's true too. All right on my second question. Ah will we get any other mcu cameos and if so who and this used to be guaranteed but now with eternals. 24:25.29 programmeral Yeah. 24:42.12 programmeral Um, all right? Ah, this is my too much details answer I think that Jessica Jones will make a small cameo just for one scene I think that she will be drunk in the background. 24:42.28 tonycam24 Everything's surround the window because they didn't have another Ambas. You can be you Al. What do you Think. Me. Wow. 25:01.64 programmeral She will see moonlight fighting a werewolf and then she's going to throw her drink away and then just walk off. 25:07.76 tonycam24 Oh like like ah like you know those people who think they drink too much gone all right Jessica Jones that's a bold 1 but you know what I didn't expect Dar Devil will show up inspired him so well I mean like. 25:15.98 programmeral Yep yep yep yep, that's that's fair, Yeah hey. 25:20.95 Sean Oh for real, Really? yeah yeah, right right? yeah. 25:25.38 tonycam24 I was kind of spoiled but like before you know that cameo thing I didn't really expect it to happen. Ah, what do you think? Sean do you think anyone's going to show up in this. 25:27.91 programmeral M. 25:35.40 Sean Um, so usually with the mccu shows we do get cameos of some sort. So I know eternals we didn't have a cameo but I think it makes sense why they didn't have 1 25:47.33 tonycam24 Ah. 25:50.10 Sean What the shows I feel like every show has had a cameo from somebody from the mccu already before and so this is what I am going to say I'm going to say 2 people. 1 ne's not really a cameo I'm going to say it's like a character introduction like how echo was for hawkeye. 26:03.46 tonycam24 Ah. 26:05.85 Sean Um, but because we're talking about werewolves I know that the mcu is going to introduce werewolf by night. So I wouldn't be surprised if that character makes an appearance here on some level. Um. But in a legit mccu cameo I'm actually gonna go the other way and I'm just awful whim no reason whatsoever I'm going to say that John berha as the punisher will show up and I would love for them to recreate that panel. They've seen on the internet where they talk they give each other like a hard time about you know. 26:34.65 tonycam24 Yeah. Oh. 26:40.30 Sean They're terrible lives with each other and all that. So but I think the punisher would make sense. Um, and this is as well too if they do that I haven't heard any inkling of that. but um but I would I would love to see ger. But John Bernthal as punisher again. So. 26:53.27 tonycam24 Yeah, especially since like they recently put all the Netflix marvel shows onto the mccu or onto Disney plus hopefully they're gearing up for more crossovers like that. Um, yeah, my answer no none of those Netflix people. 27:02.60 Sean Right? yeah. 27:12.58 tonycam24 Um, like the 2 of you guys? Um, oh well first of all I want to you decide about yourshan I just found out what werewolf by knights ah civilian name is was very enthused. Do you guys know his real name. 27:12.64 programmeral Ah. 27:23.19 Sean Um I I don't know I actually just got introduced to character last year but haven't had a chance to read the comic of werewolf by night. So no. 27:37.63 programmeral I Also don't know. 27:39.80 tonycam24 His name is Jack Russell 27:41.75 Sean Oh my God Oh my God You know what I know now that you said that I remember that now. Yes I remember someone saying that? Yes, okay, but. 27:44.69 programmeral Yeah, yeah. 27:49.30 tonycam24 I Like there are a lot of silly coic book names. But I love that's one of my favorites. 27:54.22 Sean Oh my gosh. That's that yeah I mean you have to at that point right? like if you're if if you're not a ah dog or canine on some level then what are you doing with your life if you're named Jack Russell ah 27:59.66 tonycam24 Ah, yeah. 28:08.56 tonycam24 Yeah I mean it's true. All right? Um, so my prediction is I like you guys Not really sure who could show up in this but I'm going to say wong. 28:11.65 programmeral Ah. 28:25.29 tonycam24 Want's going to show up because he seems to be showing up in a lot of ah random stuff I thought about ah Steve and strange but like no, they're not going to get him for. They couldn't get him to camp I mean they probably could have gotten him but they didn't have him cannyo and Wanda Vision 28:28.31 Sean Ah, that's true. You. 28:43.27 tonycam24 So they probably wouldn't throw him in here right before his movie. 28:45.42 Sean Right? Yeah, they don't they don't tend to have people do cameos in too many movies like recurring characters a whole lot. So um, so yeah I'll be surprised the strain shows up and I will say this is I know there was a lot of speculation that. 28:53.88 tonycam24 Ah. 29:03.95 Sean Von Dom was going to make an appearance because of the crates in that one scene. But if you look at it. It doesn't actually say von doom. It says something else and all that. So I really think they're going to save vo dom for a movie to be honest I think is what they're going to do so. 29:06.35 tonycam24 Yeah. 29:18.49 tonycam24 Yeah I mean if they don't I do want them to kind of do them separately from fantastic four because we've noticed that it doesn't work real well when you kind of combine their Orton stories. Um I'm hoping for like a. 29:26.42 Sean Right. Um. 29:37.60 tonycam24 Ah, do more so flat varia versus wakconda type story but we'll see what happens there all right? Sean do you want to start with your questions. 29:42.50 Sean E. 29:47.79 Sean Yeah, so um and I kind of alluded to my first question a little bit earlier but my first question is since the character moonnight has dissociative identity disorder will each personality be at odds with each other. Or will they need to work together somehow on the show. 30:08.80 tonycam24 All right I'll start with that one I agree with you ah, because we kind of got spoiled on your answers on 1 of them is an antagonist possibly working with Ethan Hawk's character. Um I say that because in the trailer we get that one scene where. 30:15.32 Sean Yeah, yeah. 30:21.57 Sean M. 30:28.70 tonycam24 I'm assuming it's Stephen from his reaction kind of like with the cultists. Um, as like he's just as confused and like how did he get there. Well maybe we have an an enemy personality who was already there with ethannox character. 30:31.45 Sean Right. 30:45.46 Sean Cool. 30:47.20 tonycam24 Al. What do you think. 30:49.97 programmeral Gotcha Yes I'll go I think that yes they should all be working together. Um, but they don't and even though they all have similar goals. They go about things in their own way which leads to wacky situations. 31:03.65 tonycam24 Um, such a wacky looking show already guys named Jack Russell might show up. 31:06.70 programmeral Um, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly um, know. So so there there is that scene in the trailer where um, again, not sure which um personality is is in charge. But. You know, um, he like kind of wakes up driving a car and finds a gun. It's kind of how it seems to me. Um, and so I think that's one of the wacky situations right? He's like wait I don't know how to use a gun and he like throws it or something right? and then he has no idea. 31:30.91 tonycam24 Er. 31:43.78 programmeral What's going on and then that completely ruins the other the the plan for the other identity that he has and all that stuff. So. 31:50.57 Sean Um, you know what? I'm just going to bounce out with what I said earlier and just say no, there won't be odds with each other I think they'll get along just fine just in the off chance that my other one is ah. 31:59.18 tonycam24 Okay, cool. Yeah, so so is a win win or a last loss. However, you want to think about. 32:00.42 programmeral Ah, but. 32:08.34 Sean Right? I'm that guy that on Ah, what's it called the ah the ah the craps table. Whatever like I'll bet on black and red. So I guarantee you win? Ah um, yeah, ah. 32:16.59 tonycam24 Ah. Hey, it's It's a strategy no matter what you're going to get a point. 32:24.30 programmeral Um, was this. 32:27.87 Sean That's yeah, ah ah my second question is we're in phase 4 of the mccu in our second year of Disney plus shows what kinds of weapons will we see in the show I know what I said has nothing to do with the question I just thought would be fun just to kind of. 32:42.92 tonycam24 Jesus. 32:46.25 programmeral Um. 32:47.61 Sean Make it sound like I'm hyping it up for that question. Ah um, al do you want to go I think Tony went first all do you want to go first 32:55.46 programmeral Yeah I'll go. Um so I'm I was trying to think like I don't remember um what kind of weapons moonlight has that there's only one that came to mind immediately. Um, which are the the better I mean the the Moona rings which I think we've already seen in the. 33:13.80 tonycam24 Um, yeah, AlL I also type them as moonangs. 33:13.36 Sean Yes, the the most recent trailer I think has showed that as a weapon. Yeah yeah. 33:14.24 programmeral Trailers right? I I don't remember if we had yes. Okay, so definitely those. Okay, that I. 33:26.94 Sean I Wonder if there's a character inspired you to say it like that. Ah. 33:32.74 programmeral Ah, you know that I honestly I don't know but that might be the the genuine name for these things like. 33:41.38 tonycam24 They're called crescent to darts I look them up. 33:43.77 programmeral Um, that's a stupid name anyway. 33:45.38 Sean Um, well we'll make a petition on chains dot org to get them to actually change the official name to Moona rings. 33:50.44 tonycam24 Here. 33:54.44 programmeral Ah, um, so other than these moon orangs. Um I think the only thing like close to some kind of special weapon will be something like ah, a grappling hook gun. Um, yeah, the other cool equipment I know from the comics that moonlight has is a moon plane I don't think. 34:04.53 tonycam24 Oh yeah, okay. 34:14.10 tonycam24 He he does have a moonshaped plane. 34:14.12 programmeral That's going to show up in this at all that. 34:16.55 Sean But this are we I'm sorry this is Batman like well and especially that one scene in the trailer where he ah flaps open his cape into a moon shape I'm just like okay. 34:21.71 tonycam24 I Know why. 34:23.67 programmeral Which is it. 34:30.12 tonycam24 Yeah. 34:31.90 programmeral Just. 34:34.50 Sean Well, and and as we're talking about the moon rings like I think in the trailer we see him like actually takes the mooner ring out from his chest I'm like what movie just came out where he does the same thing but. 34:37.36 tonycam24 Um, I know right. 34:44.94 Sean Ah, ah, it's too funny. 34:47.61 tonycam24 Ah, Sean do you want? Um, what weapons do you think we'll see other what I think moon orang is probably going to be on all our lists. 34:54.90 Sean Yeah I mean that's kind of a given because we're saw in the trailer right? like that one in guns. Um I don't know why and again I don't know the comics at all and don't know much about the character other than you know some of the snippets I've read and and seen in a trailer but I feel like a staff of some sort will. 34:58.94 programmeral I Mean in there. 34:58.96 tonycam24 Yeah. 35:14.79 Sean Show up for moonnight. Um that and maybe a scalpel because every time I see Mr Knight I feel like he's giving off Dexter vibes you know yeah I know I like I was just I remember I think I tweeted I'm like this guy looks like he's you know. 35:22.19 tonycam24 Yeah, he creeps me out a little bit just that poster. 35:33.53 Sean Giving off some Dexter vibes is that he's ready to kill you you know? Ah um, but yeah I for whatever reason I'm just feeling like a staff of some sort will show up for moonlight. So. 35:34.78 tonycam24 Is difference. 35:45.69 tonycam24 All right? Um I'm thinking I mean moonarangs obviously um, but just like I just picture him ah him wailing on that guy just like punching over I'm going to say iron knuckles. Or something like that. yeah crescent well yeah I mean there there. Yeah lunar no iron ironed Moon Coals no and um, a bat pod. 36:03.85 Sean Ah, crescent knuckles Lunar Knuckles ah 36:22.40 tonycam24 I Don't know no just like oh shoot I stole the I stole this but I forgot the paint it white f he showss up in the batmobile. 36:24.32 Sean Ah, where wolf were palllette. Oh man, that's awesome. 36:35.59 programmeral All right? Um, so with the batman questions out of the way. Um, we've got the ah the always around questions right? So will this show have any scenes anywhere. That hint at any mutants or x-men entering the mcu Sean what do you think. 36:57.33 Sean Um, I mean I guess I can use Tony Strategy to say yes and leave it at that. Ah I you know I I think there's a lot of potential for it. Um. 37:04.31 tonycam24 Is. 37:12.96 Sean You know, being in New York I can see them making a reference to xavier school for the gifted. Um I I haven't got the sense that they're in Egypt yet I mean I think maybe there's a couple scenes where they might be but it's not really clear. But if they're in Egypt. 37:15.27 tonycam24 A. 37:30.60 Sean They could make a reference to storm over there as well too. Um, but I I think I mean I think if they are going to. It might be a very subtle thing like I don't think they're going to introduce a character yet in this show. 37:33.34 tonycam24 Yeah. 37:47.86 Sean But might be something subtle like in Falcon winter soldier where they went to madreor. so um so I'm going to say yes. 37:56.80 tonycam24 Well then I'm going to say no and leave it at that. Ah I think it's like I'm spoilers for my predictions in a couple weeks for dark range I I think that's when they're pushing it and this is just a few like. 37:57.67 programmeral This Oh great. 38:15.10 tonycam24 Honestly, a few days too early I think um yeah I don't think we're going in any references to Mutant I think we are going to be introduced to a lot of new things in the show I don't think they want to throw that on top of it. 38:15.32 Sean Right. 38:32.37 programmeral That's that's fair I mean jumping into to my answer I mean that's a thing we all want right more more stuff bringing in the mutes I mean we're we know they're coming. So yeah, exactly so like like do it tell us. 38:42.43 tonycam24 We're so close. 38:46.69 programmeral Come on we we we want all of this cool content right now we don't We don't want to wait for another year or something so it's easy to want to say yes in this thing will show up but no. 38:53.77 tonycam24 I Mean that is ah that's the reason why this is on the always around question because someone always brought it up in every predictions I was like no, we just need to put this just every episode. 39:00.30 programmeral Um, let me. 39:08.41 Sean Ah, awesome. 39:09.30 programmeral Ah, yeah, yeah, exactly So I yep and I too am saying no no mutes. So and the final question as always the that'd be cool. 39:16.60 tonycam24 Ah, so Sean's gonna make fools of both of us. 39:21.39 Sean He. 39:26.89 programmeral Final question is make a random prediction Tony make a random prediction. 39:31.88 tonycam24 All right I am going to be specific I think Ethan Hawke's character is not really Arthur Harrow I think he's actually and I actually had to go look up moonnight villains. So I um I think he's shadow night. His brother who has his like long lost brother who has the same powers as moonlight because this is moonlight's first adding and he's god fight someone who has the same powers as him. 40:02.17 Sean Mm interesting and I can see that happening because they haven't really shown much of what Ethan Hawke is doing other than saying there's chaos in you right. 40:10.19 tonycam24 Yeah, and then I like look at Arthur Harrow online he would like in 1 issue of moonlight as like that's that's a red herring if and if I've ever seen one. 40:13.13 programmeral Isn't. 40:17.62 Sean Right. 40:25.60 Sean Ah, right? um, random prediction. Let's see I am going to say that they will make a reference. 40:25.92 programmeral Is it is. 40:44.96 Sean Some sort of event in the mccu and this show whether it's about the um, the blip or the um events that happen in West view or something like that. 40:59.74 tonycam24 And. 41:01.67 Sean Um, or if you know if it's in New York they might even mention you know the um the tracksuit mafia from hawkeye and things like that I think they'll probably make some sort of mention of some sort of event in the mccu that's outside of the show. 41:16.57 tonycam24 Okay I think that's true I was going to say that seems like a pretty safe one but you're right Sometimes they don't especially like so far because it's a branded character. It seems pretty disconnected from the rest of the name see you. But. 41:17.92 programmeral To who. 41:19.10 Sean Because that doesn't happen all the shows. So. 41:33.58 Sean Right? right? I think this is our first show where it is a brand new character that we haven't seen them she you because I think but everything else is has been an existing character so it'll be really interesting to see what they do with that. 41:36.00 tonycam24 See how it goes. Yeah, oh. 41:45.10 tonycam24 Yeah, it gonna be interesting year because we've got 3 characters coming out that are new characters with a she hol and Miss Marvel coming out this year as well. 41:45.57 programmeral Is it. 41:50.60 Sean Right? right. 41:55.58 programmeral All right? Ah so I'll go with mine I think that in order to stop the big bad guy moonlight will have to do that thing where he hurts himself to kill the bad guy like for example, he has to stab himself through the shoulder to kill the bad guy behind him. 42:13.26 Sean Ah, okay, yeah I thought it was like some sort of like magical trick. Whatever we're like if he stabs himself in the stomach. He's actually killing the person like across from him you're saying like actually perfect like puncture through himself. 42:14.90 programmeral I Don't know if that's the exact thing but something to that effect. 42:23.71 tonycam24 Path. 42:24.52 programmeral No. 42:30.56 Sean Like what's the what's the famous one where they they did that they do that movies all the time. What is what's What's the one. Ah gosh. 42:32.99 programmeral The the one that comes to my mind is diehard for where he shoots himself. Yeah isn't. 42:38.78 Sean Yes, that's what it is yes. Ah, where he says that line and just shoots himself right through the shoulder. Yeah, that's right. Okay, that's where you got that from? yeah. 42:39.97 tonycam24 Yes, yeah. 42:46.42 tonycam24 Um. 42:48.17 programmeral Ah, but that is exactly where I got it from yep. Ah so maybe he'll stab himself. Maybe he'll shoot himself. He'll yep Ah yeah, all righty Well I think ah. 42:54.49 Sean With the moon orangs. 43:07.70 programmeral And think we've we've done it. We've made some predictions we've made a total of 8 each and we are ready to watch this show now to sit down and wait and do nothing else until that happens right? okay. 43:20.25 tonycam24 Yep I have no plans for the next couple days just go stare I think I'm just gonna stare at the Disney plus menu for the next couple days. Refreshing every half an hour years I know. 43:25.33 programmeral See. 43:27.40 Sean Um, they they already have a spot for moonlight up there. Ah because I remember going through I was like is it allo already. It's like oh no, they're just getting ready for March thirtieth never mind I could watch a trailer they've seen on Youtube again, but just on Disney plus. 43:32.32 programmeral Um, so. 43:35.49 tonycam24 Where there. 43:44.15 tonycam24 I might do that I might watch that trailer. However, many one and a half minutes we have between now and the premiere of the show. 43:50.54 Sean Um, right? ah. 43:54.50 programmeral All right? Well everyone um, join us Monday when this feed for mc rewind will be taken over by our new podcast. The plot finders so that is our actual first episode even though this past Monday was our um. Intro to us episode where we also talk about what we're going to be doing on the show. So if you have any interest in listening to our new podcast just listen on this normal feed or you can actually find it hopefully soon because it it takes a few days to to propagate to to feeds and all that stuff. Um. 44:28.96 tonycam24 Okay. 44:32.33 programmeral But since you're already on this one mc rewind listen to us try to figure out what happened during the first season of Superman and Lois and spoiler alert I don't know how well we did because we never looked it up anyway. 44:47.46 tonycam24 That's true. That's the first one we recorded guys. It's it's a little rougher than the next couple episodes just bear with us. 44:54.65 programmeral It's our pilot all right anyway. Um this has been the Marvel cinematic rewind for Marvel's Disney.'s Disney pluses moon night and in meannight in meantime, please follow us on Twitter we are at emcu underscore rewind and pretty pretty please give us a rating on Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcast app. Anyway, this is the Marvel cinematic rewind signing off. 45:07.30 Sean Ah. 45:07.69 tonycam24 Aka Batman 45:19.54 tonycam24 Have a marvelous day.