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Um, and with that today's episode is ah agents shield season 5 episode 14 the devil complex original air date March Twenty Third 2018 00:51.48 programmeral And here's a rundown what happens in that episode the anomalies from the fear dimension are becoming stronger but fits is becoming increasingly stressed right now trying to figure out how to create a better gravitonium based device to fully seal the rift general hale is found by the shieldees and captured. During an interrogation. She says that she's just trying to capture the shieldes because of orders and she wants to also separately but in related to that prevent the extinction of humanity she wants klsa to come with her and show him what she is really working on but initially he declines then we found out. That ah creole is the is her driver hails driver and now he's on their plane with a bomb now they have to listen to her because ah the bomb and then the chilleys also bring in a new robot version of Anton Ivo onto the show after all this colson decides to go with general hail. 01:49.85 programmeral Moving on evil fits aka the doctor from the framework is back as an anomaly and you know he's evil because he's wearing a suit. He knocks out deq and then talks to the real fits the shieldees on the lighthouse realize that the doctor wants to destroy the inhumans on the base and that he's after Daisy but that's a little too late because Daisy has been captured by the doctor. He doesn't want to kill her. He wants to give her back her quake powers. The powers are the key to refining the gravitonium after a heated argument between fits and the doctor we find out that the doctor is not an anomaly Fitz has been doing this all along with the mind of the doctor taking over at times address of back and forth fitz takes out the power damener from daisy. And then she puts the gravitonium into the sphere at the end we see general hale in some dark room with the guy telling her to drink odium if she's about to fail. 02:35.97 tonycam24 Du Du all right moving on to our fast facts where you got now Aha post note on the wall one. 02:45.85 programmeral Oh no I forgot to write down a fast fact. Oh no, Ah oh this isn't good. 02:55.20 tonycam24 That's okay because there weren't a lot of easter eggs this episode. Um the title. The double complex is a play on like a god complex which is something like the doctors or people who are like have a lot of power. They say they have a god complex but Leopold evil fits knows that what he's doing is wrong. So he's doing the devil's work dun du um, yeah should I talk about the guy in the shadows or save that for a future eson. 03:24.00 programmeral Um, in. 03:32.97 programmeral Did did they say it a name I had I you know who he is ah um, ah, let's save it for the. 03:35.40 tonycam24 No, what I did is I looked up the cast on I am D B and that had him and his name. Ah, but he doesn't have a common counterpart so I could just talk about the actor. 03:51.31 programmeral Feel I feel like that's more in line with how we do other stuff for the the show. Yeah to ah all right I don't know how you expected me to get anything all right Tony if in the future. Um, but. 03:52.24 tonycam24 All right? That's fair that I'm out of Easter eggs. 04:04.30 tonycam24 I I expect results out I don't expect. Um I don't care how you get them. 04:10.81 programmeral All right? Well then. Well then since I go first since you don't care. Um, if I ever forget to write down a fast fact I will be telling people what the title means. 04:22.93 tonycam24 No, that's not really an Easter egg. That's just something I do yeah all right moving on to our Heroes Who do we want to talk about. 04:28.96 programmeral Ah, oh there, Great? ah. 04:40.11 programmeral Um, um. 04:40.16 tonycam24 Should we? So let's say should we talk about fits at length or should we wait till the end then talk about fits at length. 04:45.95 programmeral Um, let's let's let's let's go at the end. Let's let's start with the the set of shieldes that go off and try to take hail. 04:59.38 tonycam24 All right? So yeah, they actually you know what they use their cooking device. Well yeah, ah. 05:06.49 programmeral Um, yeah, you know that there's a couple of times in the series where they use it really? well right? like there's this time. Um there was that time when ah Robbie Ray is his car like they had it. 05:21.20 tonycam24 Who. 05:21.67 programmeral Crash into the plane I think it was something like that. Um, and I'm sure other times too. Those are the 2 that come to my. 05:29.72 tonycam24 Um, yeah, um, yeah, so she shows up and it was part of her evil plan the whole time. She pulls a Loki she wanted to get captured. 05:40.69 programmeral And and we should have known this because as soon as they capture her agent may says something like oh you'd think they'd have better encryption on their phones. Oh no, this. 05:53.86 tonycam24 I thought I actually kind of fell for it cause I was like well at least they're hanging a lantern or with a lamp shade on it. So it's like well off like they color it so easily. But they're calling it out so it must be like well just point out bad writing. 05:59.92 programmeral Um. 06:12.43 programmeral Yeah, yeah I mean that's what I thought too is what was going on. Um, but okay, all right cool. It wasn't so bad and we should have known also because I think the the recap to the episode reminded us that ah creole is working for her. 06:15.29 tonycam24 Um, ah. 06:29.90 tonycam24 Yeah I intentionally skip the recaps for all the shows I watch ah because like I know basically what's happening and I don't want to be spoiled in a recap be like hey this character shows up for a second. 06:30.23 programmeral So. Oh. 06:38.12 programmeral You see. Well okay, I've seen these episodes before So I'm okay with a spoiler. Oh okay. 06:46.69 tonycam24 Ah, no this like new to me. Yeah cause I forgot Ivan off shows back up? Yep yeah. 06:54.94 programmeral Same um I remember years ago when I first saw this season this half of the season. There are so many callbacks to the first 5 seasons of the show or four and a half see 4 first 4 seasons of the show. 07:09.49 tonycam24 Um, ah. 07:13.41 programmeral I remember thinking who who was this guy. Why do we know him? Um, so like I remember thinking that about ivanov here and that was only like 1 season leader that the last time we saw him um, thankfully due to this show the the mc rewind I do remember who he is so yay. 07:17.18 tonycam24 Um, yeah. 07:29.50 tonycam24 Yeah. 07:32.24 programmeral But yeah, we we last saw him and he's just ahead in a jar. 07:38.12 tonycam24 Yep, yeah, people thought he was going to be like Mooc like ch when does this episode ah drop out. 07:45.10 programmeral Um, no, that could save their movie. Um, ah, you're gonna have to give me a minute to scroll get a lot to scroll. Ah, this episode that we're talking about right now drops at the end of may may twenty second is what I have written down. So so spoilers for quantum mania is what you're saying. Okay. 08:03.75 tonycam24 Right? Cool so quantum mini came out in Blu-ray last week. So yeah I think it would been better if I've yeah yeah I think it would been better if it wasn't darren cross if it was um if it was ivanov just showing up. It would have made even less sense. You know. 08:21.43 programmeral Um, yeah, it would have um I mean that that's one of the things that the Tv shows don't get to get those big characters. So like even back then now they kind of do. But. 08:31.79 tonycam24 Like yeah except for ghost writer. Yeah, he's the most marquee character who showed up like him and Daisy Johnson Daisy Johnson is's pretty minor in the comics. 08:37.64 programmeral Here I mean. 08:44.93 programmeral True. Yeah yeah, Ghost Writer does have his own comic and he's got stuff and at one point he was Nick cage. 08:49.29 tonycam24 Here. He's been played by Nick Cage twice anyway, so Colson goat so these is here my notes so you might need help me all I said up. Well first of all, he agrees to go with hail after the bomb shows up and coles may call some suicidal and then I wrote the word starts I did not finish my note. 09:00.11 programmeral E. In. 09:12.40 programmeral Yeah, he starts to go with Hail and. 09:15.45 tonycam24 So Al What did he start doing. 09:23.56 tonycam24 I Don't know what I was going right. 09:28.80 programmeral I Don't know yeah I can't think of anything he starts doing like at that point he because I mean yeah, he yeah pretty much like he he argues with may for a little bit and then and then she ends up. 09:29.30 tonycam24 Okay. What does he do after he just leaves with hail right. 09:41.44 tonycam24 Okay. 09:46.80 programmeral Basically saying fine. Yeah, you can go and then the next scene that we see him and for 1 scene he's being ah frisked I guess by Anton Iva right like he's he's like scanning him for stuff. He has to take the scan the arm I think the hand um and that's it. 09:56.69 tonycam24 Um, yeah. 10:05.40 programmeral Yeah. 10:05.82 tonycam24 All right? Yeah so um, Yoyo ah, yeah, ah you know what? she's finally looking on the bright side of the time loop. 10:11.12 programmeral Yeah, let's go yo yo. 10:20.17 tonycam24 She knows she probably won't die. She may have a hellish life but she won't die. Did you ever see the movie big fish. Um, that. 10:24.25 programmeral Yeah, you know there's always a silver lining to something always something. No. 10:36.44 tonycam24 It's pretty much a story of this guy's life and he's telling it like um like exaggerated tales and so ah the younger version of it is played by Youan Mcgregor and you mcgregor see meets a witch and finds out like you look into the which' eye and tells you how you're going to die. 10:41.79 programmeral It. 10:52.71 programmeral In. 10:54.30 tonycam24 So it's to him and 2 friends when they were young and 2 of them like find out how they're going to die and they're like it freak out right? and the ah Youan Mcgregors character looks it says huh. That's how I die and throughout the whole rest of the movies like I can do this because this isn't how I die just like he's literally considers himself immortal like. 10:59.61 programmeral He. 11:13.99 tonycam24 He fights in I think the korean war or something and he's like doing a captain America jumping out a plane without a a parachute because he knows he's not going to die this way. 11:21.74 programmeral Um, yeah, okay, that's true I mean you'll get seriously injured but you won't die. Okay I I never saw the movie but I do remember like. 11:28.95 tonycam24 Yep, is it surprising what you can live through. 11:37.00 programmeral I don't know twenty years ago seeing the trailers or 15 years I don't know how old this movie is but I remember seeing commercials thinking oh that looks interesting. Maybe I should watch it and never did how does he die to is it does it matter. 11:37.54 tonycam24 Er. 11:45.69 tonycam24 Is's a good movie. Ah no well. Okay, so he has cancer the whole part of the movie. So um, a big fishery wine guys. Um, he has cancer in his sons there to try like help. 11:54.60 programmeral B e. 12:02.72 tonycam24 Be with the family as his father was passing but his father like always told these tall tales like like big fish tales I guess they would call him because he's like the Southern guy and so it's ah and he doesn't like. 12:09.28 programmeral No. 12:17.90 tonycam24 He doesn't respect his dad as much because he thinks dad never told me the truth. He always told me these exaggerated tales and they couldn't be real and the movie ends like because like we're seeing the flashbacks that he's telling the father's telling the son's wife about all these tales and stuff and. The big climax is his father is dying and the son makes up a story about how he sees all these characters from out his life and I really understands the meaning of why he tells these stories so he does die of cancer but he dies like. In the story like turning into a big fish with all these like mythical characters like a giant and these conjoined twins and all these characters he met throughout his life and stuff like that. Yeah,, That's how he dies? yep. 13:03.17 programmeral Okay, cancer got it right? Oh that sucks. Okay, that's true in the future. 13:12.84 tonycam24 But Yoyo doesn't die that way. She she dies if I'm being killed by Cree Yeah in the future. Yeah, so she's fine. 13:24.17 programmeral To quick quick quick side note Tony um, so I know our our listeners have absolutely no idea that we're doing things differently? Um, but this week in last week's episode. We decided to record with our webcams on and we could see each other. 13:35.49 tonycam24 Here. 13:38.61 programmeral This is just so weird Tony I don't know if you notice like how often I'm doing hand motions now and it's it's not a thing that I ah was ever self-conscious about like I always did it for all of these years you just couldn't see and now now selfconscious like ah great now. Tony you can see this. 13:47.85 tonycam24 Earth. 13:53.69 tonycam24 Well don't worry I'm self-conscious because when I'm thinking something I'm looking up because I'm not used to looking at you. So it's yeah again, recapper of big fish talk about seeing each other. This is what our listeners are here for. 14:00.73 programmeral So good. 14:09.97 programmeral I mean no one gives us any reviews with some comments so we're just guessing if you really are here for this. Let us know send us a message on Twitter we're at mc underscore rewind or an email. 14:13.64 tonycam24 Um. 14:18.43 tonycam24 Um, yep. 14:27.41 programmeral And you rewinded gmail.com 14:29.22 tonycam24 Everything is this some psychological experiment that all our listeners are like how long will they keep talking without um, any much interaction from the audience and you know what I believe this is up episode 299 so at least 3 under that. So. 14:49.14 programmeral Yeah, we'll keep going Oh boy, we ah ah before we started recording this. You need? yep. 14:51.10 tonycam24 Yep, we had a whole meeting about whether and not we're gonna make more content. Don't know why. 15:01.98 programmeral Our our little excel sheet that we share goes to 2028 and that's not up to date. 15:10.73 tonycam24 Yeah, so listeners or void. Let us know how we're doing. We might be just be talking in the void all right? So my next? Well my major said notes is says. 15:16.61 programmeral Is me? yeah. 15:30.28 tonycam24 Fitzimmons Aka Fitzfitz because I don't know where they landed on the names. So ah. 15:37.99 programmeral Um I Guess for now they haven't had the time to do the paperwork to hyphenate anything. 15:42.75 tonycam24 Well I mean they didn't do the paperwork to like if you're counting that it's like they didn't register. Um or they didn't get their marriage license because then they would have to go into a government building and that's frowned upon when you're most wanted. 15:45.51 programmeral In it. 15:58.27 programmeral That's true. Yeah, so from a legal perspective with the government. They're not married but they are from a spiritual perspective right? Maybe I don't know I don't know maybe Colson did the the online thing to become ordained or maybe he did that like ten years ago for another friend of his. 16:02.87 tonycam24 Nope Yeah, yep. 16:13.24 tonycam24 If likely or trying to think i't think you was ever captain of a ship because I know that's some special rule captain the ship married people too I don't know if you have to be ordained as well or if being a coming a captain. You also have to be ordained as process of your captaining. 16:14.85 programmeral And he just kept it. Yeah. 16:25.95 programmeral Um. 16:33.70 tonycam24 Mysteries I will never solve because I'm not going to look it up. 16:36.60 programmeral That's true if anyone out there is a captain. Let us know we're curious. 16:40.58 tonycam24 Yeah, ah so Simmons asked fits um, what like your their wish would be right? A fits had the best answer ever an extra day between Saturday and Sunday I'd never thought about that but like I feel like that's the most simplest way. 16:46.47 programmeral See. 16:54.60 programmeral Um, yeah in. 16:58.21 tonycam24 Or like you know four day work week. But that's not going happen. 16:59.67 programmeral Yeah, we'll see yeah exactly it's growing. It's slowly slowly growing very very slowly I don't know if it'll happen in our lifetime in this country I don't know. 17:02.98 tonycam24 Well, yeah, yeah, yeah I don't think and definitely will not happen in education because even if people aren't working. They still need their kids taken care of yeah all right? What would you wish for out. 17:24.75 programmeral That's true. 17:30.68 programmeral Oh God I don't know um magic powers that'd be cool right? That'd be I feel like that's the the generic I could do whatever I want um specifically probably the magic powers from. 17:38.69 tonycam24 Yeah. 17:47.31 programmeral The 90 s subbri and the teenage witch show because that feels like the easiest one to use right? You just kind of make up a little bit of a rhyme and then and then whatever you want it happens? Yeah because all of all of the other ones like you have to learn something. 17:51.53 tonycam24 Just do anything. 17:59.56 tonycam24 It's probably the best 1 Yeah, although go it does. Yeah I mean it does come with a laugh track so you have to be prepared for that I believe that's actually part of her powers is like the payment you have to make would you? ah. 18:06.11 programmeral Yeah. 18:09.97 programmeral God I would love that Oh I Oh yes I would totally take that I wish I could have a laugh trek every time I do something stupid laughter. Oh it's perfect I don't have to force myself to play it off. It's just it's already done for me. It's great. 18:25.55 tonycam24 I Feel like that would destroy my self- eseem that wasn't meant to be funny. Okay, that would be my super villain story. 18:28.89 programmeral Oh I lost mine long time ago I am okay with that who. 18:42.80 tonycam24 Like Fitz is having right now. 18:46.40 programmeral Ah, what? Ah what would you wish for. 18:48.33 tonycam24 Um I don't know that that really good Sunday thing. Ah the extra day sounds really good. Um I think teleportation but like jumper. 18:51.53 programmeral Are you. 19:02.83 tonycam24 You ever see the movie jumper with Haon Christensen yeah you can look at the pick hu no, that's a great version of teleportation. 19:05.41 programmeral Um I did yeah you want a bad version. You want the bad version of teleportation that like that was horrible like you have to envision. The thing you're going to otherwise you end up in a wall. 19:20.56 tonycam24 You have to you could literally transport anywhere as long as you know what? it looks like. That's way better than night crawlers. 19:28.55 programmeral I Guess that's true. Okay I don't really know how night crawlers works Net now that I'm thinking about it. Oh oh okay. 19:32.25 tonycam24 He he literally has to see it in the moment to get there where like again I haven't seen jumper since maybe a couple years after it came out but I remember him having like a bunch of pictures of places on the wall and he could just. Go there with everyone. 19:53.57 programmeral Okay, now that yeah that you're right that part is good. Um I Guess you don't have to worry about landing in a person. Um I don't I don't really understand I Guess you're really just imagining because like what if it's a busy place and there's a bunch of people walking around. I Feel like they didn't think through that too much. Um, but I like the concept I think I think you're right? Yeah, probably yes, probably ok, all right. 20:13.94 tonycam24 I Think yeah I feel like you're thinking about it too much. Well I'm obviously gonna put that into my wish teleportation that works well with matter. 20:29.47 programmeral Yeah, where you don't end up inside of something that you don't mean to you don't lose use of your leg like Ma did when she went to the future. 20:37.42 tonycam24 Um, yeah. 20:44.20 tonycam24 It's true. So ah, yeah, fits it's rough for fits he ah you can't figure out how to use the raw gravitonium to make the new beacon. Um, he's cracking under the pressure of thinking about the ramifications of aing extra day on Sunday would that. Start or beef between Saturday and Sunday would that start a six day work week because you know capitalism strong. It wouldn't let us have yeah. 21:05.44 programmeral Oh yeah, it it would easily start a six day work week I yeah oh yeah I agree. 21:11.35 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah, so it's actually worse off. so so yeah that's what he's cracking under the pressure. How does how would teleportation work did Gordon like phase into things all the time we'll never know. 21:23.69 programmeral I Don't think I mean maybe that that was probably part of his his power or he yeah that has to have been part of his powers I don't know and I don't think we ever saw him phase into something but he also didn't have eyes. Maybe that was like. 21:32.11 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 21:41.31 programmeral I Mean that was the tradeoff. 21:41.73 tonycam24 Yeah, you mean he could see we know he could see on I'll have to think about teledish more maybe I'll have to change my wish every every time I find a penny. It's heads up. 21:47.82 programmeral That's true. 21:56.13 programmeral Um, all right? well. 21:59.29 tonycam24 Always have good luck. 22:01.61 programmeral Okay, feels like a little bit of a downgrade but okay, right. 22:06.64 tonycam24 Yeah, it's pretty lateral looks pretty important I want Domino powers just luck all right, never mind all right? Ah so fits is approached by leopold and I wrote this like. 22:10.82 programmeral Oh yeah, there you go? yeah. 22:20.69 programmeral Is. 22:24.57 tonycam24 He didn't know if he was cracking or if it was a vision where its like well we get that answer? Yeah yeah, um, yeah, so all the visions that fit sees are real. 22:30.40 programmeral Yep, Yeah, we definitely do a work. 22:41.16 programmeral Um, yeah, they really happened right? like everything. Um. 22:43.32 tonycam24 Oh I mean he did them I don't know if he's not seeing a real things. Yeah yes. 22:50.27 programmeral Yes, sorry yeah, what you said? Yeah, he really knocked out deep. He really talked to himself. He really ah kidnapped ah daisy. 23:00.48 tonycam24 Did you think he? Well we kind of get this answer because he doesn't I was hoping that as he's dissociating he actually has to change into a suit every time. 23:09.69 programmeral No, he Yeah, he did it I Guess he just saw him or sometimes saw himself with the soup. Yeah. 23:14.92 tonycam24 Um, yes. 23:20.34 tonycam24 Yep, let's see so yeah, so he turned off cameras. He reprogrammed that robot to attack on fix that robot to attack Yoyo and macenum wells. 23:35.12 programmeral E. 23:38.60 tonycam24 Yeah, so um, yeah, and he ends up kidnapping or yeah, pretty much capturing daisy and doing what he thinks or what needs to be done is giving back her powers. Um, yeah. 23:51.28 programmeral In. 23:55.90 tonycam24 Which is a brutal scene. 23:58.60 programmeral Yeah, um God I mean pulling that thing out of her neck that those wires were way longer than I would have thought they needed to be but oof. 24:05.41 tonycam24 Um, who. 24:08.59 tonycam24 Well yeah I mean I obviously I don't know how in humans work but like it would have to affect I Assume it like affected the brainstem or nervous system. Yeah. 24:17.99 programmeral Yeah, exactly and but it was like in her neck. So I wouldn't have thought that they would need to go that far like it looked like those were wires that could go down to the bottom of her spine or something. But yeah, then again, a bunch of different types of inhumans. 24:27.12 tonycam24 Um, yeah, maybe. 24:35.59 programmeral So maybe it was a universal device. 24:38.35 tonycam24 Um, yeah I mean it kind of has to be kind of like their their pod their containment pod. That's just it works with every single power. 24:48.26 programmeral Yeah, that's true. Oh god yeah, that was brutal. Um, so I guess we're talking about Fitz and Leopold together right now. Um. 24:52.11 tonycam24 Yeah. Here. 25:00.43 programmeral It was interesting because he he had set up contingencies too right? like with the the assumption that he would be found out so he had to also program the robot to like it would shoot simmons if he didn't go through with with pulling the thing out of daisy. Um. 25:12.63 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah, so I guess Leopold knew that he was a psychootic break because he knew there'd be a. But if he thought he was a different entity. 25:20.31 programmeral Which is God That's a big evil move. Alright. 25:31.83 tonycam24 He wouldn't put these fail saves on fits he would like maybe knock fits out but the fact that he knew that he wasn't real. He had to make sure like if I switch back then fits has to finish a job. 25:47.30 programmeral That's a good point. Yeah, you're right? Yeah yeah, which which I feel like it makes a little bit more sense that that's how that would work. Um, because I mean he had his goal was in line with Fitz his goal of doing whatever. 25:54.00 tonycam24 Are. 26:03.62 tonycam24 Um, yeah, um. 26:04.32 programmeral Needs to happen to close that rift and this is what needed to happen. Um I this is one of those times where like I don't know if they made the right decision from ah like a writing perspective to not tell us the audience. That this was even an option until that moment like so um, when it's revealed that ah Leopold wants to give daisy her powers back so that she can ah fix that like do the stuff to the gravitonium to like refine it or whatever. 26:25.19 tonycam24 Oh. 26:41.92 programmeral Um, that's when we as the audience first learned that that's even an option but that's on the table. Um, so I don't I don't know if that was like but like could it have been better if they had said something earlier in the episode or last week maybe yeah 26:45.67 tonycam24 Um, yeah. 26:51.79 tonycam24 Yeah, if they had like a scene where Daisy was like if I had my powers this wouldn't be a problem but I don't want my powers through the could end the world. Yeah yeah. 27:01.99 programmeral Yeah, exactly right? like um maybe if she didn't say that maybe someone else said it? Um, but yeah, that yeah or maybe maybe it happened last week and we just didn't notice but I doubt it? Yeah yeah, okay. 27:10.30 tonycam24 I Don't think so no, they didn't talk about compression at all right thing. Yeah. 27:18.19 programmeral Yeah, they didn't even get the gravitoni until the end of the episode like it wasn't until this episode that they realized they have to ah compress it in some way. Yeah. 27:27.36 tonycam24 Um, so yeah, so he finishes it ah traumatizing daisy which yeah, um, yeah, like. 27:34.58 programmeral This is. 27:38.84 tonycam24 Simmons doesn't know how they move forward from this and frankly I don't know how they move forward from this think like yeah. 27:42.21 programmeral Yeah, same I mean later, she's talking to deep and and he has a good point like well you do life goes on Grandma yeah, and then she throws up. Yeah, right. 27:52.40 tonycam24 Yeah, right I like her reaction. Yeah I would go to say that like is it Oh my God like the the surprise made her throw up or is this morning sickness. 28:09.12 programmeral I Think well as the audience were supposed to assume it was morning sickness. Um I I don't know if it's a spoiler or not to give an answer. Um, but I'm gonna give the answer. Oh yeah, that is true. Yes. 28:13.96 tonycam24 Ah. 28:18.30 tonycam24 Well, it's not a spoiler all because we know eventually she does have a daughter dick's mom. Yeah, okay. 28:26.86 programmeral But she is not pregnant right now. Yeah spoiler. So. 28:31.25 tonycam24 I actually disagree because of stuff we see in future episodes. We're not getting into it. 28:41.45 programmeral Ah, all right? Maybe we could talk about that after like now I'm curious. We'll talk about that off air. But I I don't think so granted I haven't seen next week's episode yet. So maybe maybe they explain it like in the first 5 minutes of next week's episode. 28:45.30 tonycam24 Okay, we'll do. 28:54.19 tonycam24 We'll do at the end of 12% we'll bring it up I'm writing it down all right? Ah I think like we definitely talked about daisy in that like her significant things. Um deq we talked is anyone else we want to talk about. 28:55.90 programmeral Okay, all right that sounds good. All right. 29:11.10 tonycam24 Hero vice. 29:12.80 programmeral no no I think we're good. Yeah I've got nothing cool and let's take a quick break and we'll talk about some villains Tony I know for a fact that you have been in a limousine maybe more than one that that I don't know. 29:14.17 tonycam24 Um, yeah, all right same here. 29:31.66 programmeral But my question for you is what was wrong with that lima. 29:36.24 tonycam24 It wasn't long enough. It didn't fly. No, you couldn't teleport I'm going with teleportation. 29:43.50 programmeral Exactly the driver did not have superpowers in case of emergency your life was in Danger. Every second you were in that vehicle and I got to say that blows. So if you need a professional grade driver look no further than the Rivers and Limousine service. And they don't just supply limousines with the rivers and Limousine service. You can also get an Suv a hatchback or a motorcycle with sidecar and for an exorbitantly higher Price. You can get a robot driver Instead. It's a standard robot so they're stronger and tougher than humans. But no Superpowers. So. Ah, you know that's if it really comes down to your choice and how much you want to pay use firm code Ms You rewind to get a free driver trial with Uber and lyft. 30:23.53 tonycam24 Fair. 30:32.43 tonycam24 Ah I think I figured out the um, the theme I think it's things with tires. 30:34.93 programmeral What is it. 30:41.71 programmeral Ah, no, no all right? Okay I think I think so I think if you stick with Rivers end I think you've got it. But. 30:43.28 tonycam24 Okay, I'm going stick with 3 rivers end. 30:53.40 tonycam24 All right, Let's move on to our villains whop I'm going ignore my ah set on Evil fits because we kind of talked about him. 31:03.93 programmeral Um, yep. 31:08.12 tonycam24 So Hale's trying to save the world. 31:09.39 programmeral Yeah, or at least what she thinks is saving the world I Mean we again, we don't really know what she's doing or who she's doing that with So yeah, yeah. 31:17.63 tonycam24 Yeah, well we know that she's working with I'm assuming a cree just because she receives odium which we withal earlier in the season. Yeah. 31:26.81 programmeral I Also am assuming that too. Yes I don't remember to be honest I remember a little bit but I don't remember if they're cre. 31:36.35 tonycam24 Um, yeah, um, yeah, and then she outsmarts she out Marks the shieldes we talked about that a little bit. Um, she allowed her phone to get hacked and had a what that but that's. 31:42.92 programmeral T. 31:51.90 tonycam24 C Four would hurt creole even if he was metal right. 31:55.47 programmeral I Have absolutely no idea what can or cannot hurt him I I mean like seriously we have have we seen him take a blast anywhere near that big. 31:59.89 tonycam24 Okay, yeah I don't know but it's like what what was he man out of like steel at the moment. 32:16.40 programmeral Yeah, yeah I guess so I mean but it's also really thick steel right? because wouldn't it be his entire body. So I don't know how I don't know what that does to him. 32:27.41 tonycam24 Um, well I'm just gonna say this ah C four can destroy a tank so I would think that he like tanks are pretty sturdy. 32:30.76 programmeral Easy gip. 32:38.17 programmeral Okay, then yeah, it probably would hurt him or not I I have no idea I mean maybe he had maybe he has some other material. Maybe they they somehow got a small fragment of vibratium. 32:43.34 tonycam24 Yeah, okay I was. 32:52.59 tonycam24 Um, yeah, that's true. Um. 32:56.31 programmeral Or some other cool material that they haven't announced to the world yet. But like they have it in you know within their government agency something called Adamantium Yeah, you're right? You're right. 33:08.41 tonycam24 That's ridiculous I bet no like honestly I think that she like creol. It's for sure you're go to survive this and she has no intention of having him survive that if it goes that way. 33:20.75 programmeral Yeah, yeah, exactly or maybe it's not actually a bomb because hails like you know I I don't want to die. So let's just let's just fake it out. Yeah I could be it. 33:25.54 tonycam24 Um. 33:35.26 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah, it's it's actually Clay yep and then she also brings in the next member of a team. The the super villain or the shield villain allstars. Um. 33:39.41 programmeral The yeah, yeah, exactly. 33:52.38 tonycam24 Where she brings the Ivan off back I'm glad it answered our question from a couple weeks ago where are they getting these robots from yeah and he can't make regular elements anymore so sex with him. 33:57.87 programmeral Yeah, that makes sense I guess. 34:10.99 programmeral Yeah I mean ah I'm glad that they answered that that they you know that that they cannot make L Andvs So that part school. 34:12.40 tonycam24 Fifth. 34:17.66 tonycam24 Who yeah, all right anything else for., Right? How about? do you have anybody for guy in the chair. 34:28.84 programmeral Nope nothing else. Yeah. I think I didn't write anything down so I have no idea who you would even think would go in that that item. 34:39.65 tonycam24 Yeah, there's there are no like Davis with no davis wasn't there. Um, nope art piper piper was there piper was there and she's got back at hail. 34:47.27 programmeral Yeah, um I what I can't remember her name because I always think of of the 2 agents David yeah piper she was in the episode. Yeah, um, yeah. 34:57.70 tonycam24 Tricking her by tricking her back but then hail tricked her again. So piper Really she's not doing Wilkin's hail. 35:00.24 programmeral Yeah, yeah, she's not no hails hails pretty good at this? Yeah no. 35:06.11 tonycam24 Ah I get gosh How am I so dumb. Um because she worked with ah wolf gang von Strucker right? Hails hydra. 35:18.56 programmeral In. 35:27.36 programmeral Yes, yep, Ah yep, yeah Hail Hy I get it. Ah I don't think that's what they were going for but okay, okay, all right Damn it was. 35:27.50 tonycam24 It's all making sense. Yep, so it's like Hail Hydra hails that how did I not see that. Yep yeah, yeah, right moving up. Nope I think exactly what they were going for like. 35:45.35 programmeral Stupid. 35:45.82 tonycam24 Ivanov Ivan no is I the nogin like he wants his head back I have a noggin I vat a noggin that yeah yep, right? Yeah I think so and then creole. 35:51.32 programmeral E Okay, all right I'll take your word for it on these. Yeah. 36:05.70 tonycam24 Can okay that I'm done. 36:09.30 programmeral Ah, all right 12% of the plan. 36:11.22 tonycam24 All right? Ah yeah, um, what other so name Stretches can I make to make these villains work. 36:19.10 programmeral Um, oh God Um I don't know that's that's not something I'm good at okay, all right. 36:25.51 tonycam24 Ruby. Okay, ah that Ruby rubs me the wrong way I don't know. 36:39.24 tonycam24 Anything else for rubies and hydra yep all right? Um, anything for 12% of plan. 36:39.31 programmeral Roo b and hydrate ogan. No no nothing else. None of us you yeah I got nothing. No you wrote something down about 12% plan but no that's that that's all good. 36:54.20 tonycam24 I Think you know what I think for our listeners. Um, after we sign off, we do our coast press credit music and then we'll have our little spoiler conversation that way listeners don't have to. We don't have to tell them how long to stop listening for. 37:10.96 programmeral Okay, sounds good to me all right? Well then in that case ah Tony how many um, weird names. Do you give this episode. 37:11.15 tonycam24 I Don't know all right. 37:24.35 tonycam24 I love I really like evil fits so I'm going to give it 4 weird names. Um I'm not going to count them because that would be ridiculous. 37:37.30 programmeral Um I I'm on the fence I will I will choose to round up to four 4 out of 5 for the same reason like I thought that these stuff with fits was really well done. Um I think the. 37:42.88 tonycam24 Okay. 37:53.15 programmeral Stuff with the other shielde on the plane capturing hail that was okay that was really just to set up really that storyline the stuff with with hail and all of that that I assume we're going to learn next week so yeah forward 5 38:02.86 tonycam24 Ah. 38:07.25 tonycam24 Oh right? Well join us next week as we celebrate our three Hundredth episode where Alice is going to tell you exactly what we're going to do right now. 38:16.31 programmeral Um, that's right, we are going to celebrate 300 episodes with something that we Tony and I have decided to do um, however due to time travel that thing I absolutely hate. Ah, we are recording things ahead of time and we have not yet decided what we're gonna do for that. Um, if you have any ideas. Please let us know on Twitter at mcu underquare rewind or send us an email fcu rewind at gmail.com unfortunately by the time you hear this we will have recorded that episode so we'll be too late, but let us know anyway. 38:42.26 tonycam24 Um, enough. 38:50.85 programmeral Because if you have a really cool idea and something that we actually would do then we'll just um, you know hate ourselves for not thinking of that. Also. 38:59.28 tonycam24 Yep, we'll save it for the 4 hundredth episode all right remember do a follow us on Twitter give us a 5 star rating. Ah, and yeah, give us grabbag ideas as always this the marvel simac rewinne signing off have a marvelous day. 39:00.71 programmeral In. 39:14.56 programmeral Okay. 39:14.72 tonycam24 Yeah, al don't press that button all right? So we know spoilers for seasons 7 of ages of shield that they well know season 7 is when all time travel stuff happens. Okay. 39:19.21 programmeral Um, also six well I I'm going to bring something up for 6 because I know where this is going but anyway just just yeah. 39:34.10 tonycam24 Yeah, they they do have their kid and there's an indeterminate amount of time so it could be she could be pregnant in the first trimester here and we wouldn't know. 39:42.62 programmeral That is possible except for the fact that the time span between the end of season 5 and the start of season. 6 is one year. Yeah yeah, so she's not breaking unless she loses it which is possible. 39:50.31 tonycam24 With it. Oh it is isn't it. Yeah well now. Yeah no, she which is I don't want to think about that but sad. Yeah. 40:02.54 programmeral But yeah, oh yeah God I mean given everything they're going through then that happens Oh boy. Yeah. 40:10.55 tonycam24 Um, anyway, okay so I'm hope you're all happy that you listen to these 30 seconds of me being wrong guys. Yeah, a um. 40:20.35 programmeral Um, I know I am. 40:25.30 tonycam24 Looking up stuff from the fear dimension last week I figured out where ah ah, the villain from season 6 came from she comes from the fear dimension. Yeah I did not know that I just thought she appeared I completely forgot. 40:36.58 programmeral That's right I I knew it had something to do with those pillars those those things I don't I don't I don't remember exactly it was the fear to mention but okay, good to know that makes sense sure I guess. 40:45.79 tonycam24 Yeah. 40:53.60 programmeral I Don't know it was weird I'm looking forward to rewatching that season because I don't remember much from it. So. 41:01.72 tonycam24 I look forward to seeing the guy who's ah the regal cinemas eminem's commercial. Ah, it's one of the henchmen with ah Colson in season 6 is in the eminem's commercial doubt shows before every episode of regal don't remember that guy at all except for like hey. 41:10.10 programmeral In. 41:19.62 tonycam24 He was in shield every time. 41:20.30 programmeral Which which guys he see the one that like hands the envelope to the red Eminem or the or the yellow one. 41:24.37 tonycam24 No, he is um when the I think the red Eminem is ah ah interrogating a guy and he's like do I look like an idiot and then hits himself with a lamp. The guy's interrogating is one of the other people who comes with. 41:39.60 programmeral Me Ah, okay, all right cool. That's right ready to. 41:43.38 tonycam24 Naga Coulson now it's been worth it for our listeners to hear this all right have a marvelous day I don't know how and this. 41:56.00 programmeral Endless.