00:03.38 tonycam24 Welcome to the Marvel C simmac rewind the podcast to rewatches reviews and removes 2 villains from the board for every movie you show 1 shot and special presentation in the marvel cynmac universe I'm Tony Kimmerina and you can follow us and should follow us on Twitter at mccu underscore rewin. 00:14.80 programmeral And I'm Al Rodriguez 00:22.69 tonycam24 And really the best thing you can do that we beg implore you to give us a 5 star review on Liver Podcast Apps you use. Also, we're making a slight shift to our schedule. Ah after some feedback about our scroll ups that's kind of interrupting the flow of our um. Rewatches. Ah, we're moving them a little bit. We're going to start doing them after a finale of a season of television. So the next scroll episode will be after season 5 episode 22 of agents or shield and you've got any ideas of what you want to hear us. Do. Drop us a line at mc rewind at Gmail.com no underscoring that one ah give us some ideas. Yeah, we've got a few but we're running out. 01:03.73 programmeral Yeah, and yeah, we run out very quickly. Ah, we won't run out as quickly as ah as we were before. That's nice and just to be a little little bit more clear. Um. We'll do those scroll episodes before starting a new season of a Tv show. So if we have like a tv show and then a movie and then a Tv show again. It'll be after the movie I don't know why I had to say that it was just just wanted to make sure we all understood this thing that I'm sure you'll all forget because it's like. 01:24.26 tonycam24 Yeah. 01:35.31 programmeral Months until we until that happens because after this tv show we have another Tv show. 01:36.61 tonycam24 Yeah. 01:42.40 tonycam24 Yep, and with that today's Tv show is agent shield season 5 episode 18 all roads lead.dotdot lead where we'll find out. 01:53.68 programmeral Yeah, and here's a quick rundown of what happens in this episode. 01:56.74 tonycam24 Oh I'm sorry hell I realize why you paused original air date April Twentieth Two Thousand Eighteen okay 02:03.38 programmeral Okay, that sounds so much better. All right Cool I didn't know what sounded off I actually forgot that you didn't say the the air date I Just I knew something was weird, not like I knew I wasn't supposed to talk yet. 02:14.60 tonycam24 Well this dropped on four 22018 so I thought you know I should just sound a little off I'm not high but I could be. 02:22.56 programmeral Ah, but okay, that's right, kind of Messs with everyone all right here is the rundown Talbot is now under hail's mind control so he gets a gun and walks around the empty base I guess all the background staff. We saw a few weeks ago were taking the weekend off for a kesia concert or or something. Anyway, he finds some of Robin's future drawings after meeting Robin she says that she's drawn him and implies that he's the one who destroys the planet because of that Talbot Kidnaps Robin separately fitzsimmons are forced by Ruby and von strucker to fix up the hydro machine they have to make a decision. Either make themselves die now to stop the bad future loop or fix the machine and maybe let it happen. They start with staying alive after finding hail's base of operations daisy and may infiltrate it which means that hail's people are outnumbered 100 to 2 hale gives herself up and they bring crusher cree creole with them too which is bad because creole is doing like so much worse now from all that mine stuff with the gravitonium anyway, the 2 extra voices in his head are constantly arguing. Now that they have hail she Daisy and may go into the fcit facility fitsimmons are in to get them back and to stop ruby from becoming the destroyer of worlds fitzsimmons fix the hydro machine so ruby gets into the chamber and the machine basically starts torturing her with only 8% of the gravitonium in her. She comes out and kills von strucker. 03:49.78 programmeral After some back and forth ruby and daisy kind of fight. But then Yoyo walks in and just flat out immediately kills ruby which is when things get really weird because Ruby's body floats up into the sky a bright light flashes and then her body falls to the ground now hail is missing. Du Dot Don I don't know I needed something nice I mean obviously. 04:09.23 tonycam24 Then and done um Kesha yeah I was going look up like with Kesha like with 2018 or heyday I feel like it was earlier than that. 04:21.20 programmeral I Don't know something maybe think about her I don't know why not maybe that was when she started making music again because she she made music and then she stopped because she got screwed over by her record label and then. 04:24.30 tonycam24 Okay. 04:32.46 tonycam24 Um, yes. 04:38.91 programmeral She started again I don't know I don't know anything. She's made recently. 04:43.87 tonycam24 All right? Well let's just move on to our fast facts. Um I'm going to start by saying that Kesha's had an album 2017 so she may have been on tour so all right. 04:53.10 programmeral You? oh okay, oh okay all good because I I was gonna look up our music anyway, ah tell me this is the last episode that we see ruby and Alex Von St Strucker to 04:58.47 tonycam24 Anyway, what are your fast back sell I'll go back to mine later. 05:12.62 tonycam24 Dude Nope That's not the non Easter No I don't think it is. 05:12.70 programmeral And also I No oh I think it is I think it is ah I think so I think I think this is definitely an Easter egg. 05:25.22 tonycam24 Hear this clicking my pen I'm marking down number 2 unless you have another easter egg. Ah what doesn't count. 05:28.49 programmeral What? Ah no, that one doesn't count. No no, that doesn't count. Nope are this this like I I have a fast fact I put that fast fact in yep I think I think it does count. 05:42.36 tonycam24 That's just something that happens in the plot of the show. 05:45.43 programmeral No, no, no oh no, yes in the plot of this show. Yes, those 2 characters die. But the thing that's a fast fact and a bit of an easter egg too is that this is the last time we see these two actors in these roles. 06:00.46 tonycam24 So should I just preorder should I order you a set of back in the future for your inevitable Third no easter a. 06:05.37 programmeral Just. 06:08.61 programmeral Well I mean yeah, obviously inevitable. It'll happen eventually. But but this counts we all know this counts and listener if you think that this does count let us know in a review for our podcast stamps you rewind if you think it doesn't count then keep your opinion to yourself. 06:20.65 tonycam24 K. 06:28.42 programmeral You're wrong, wrong opinion. 06:32.33 tonycam24 All right? So here's some real easter eggs of the title all roads lead.dotdot. ah it comes from the phrase Allie roads lead to rome originally read written by a french theologian. 06:32.71 programmeral A. 06:47.74 tonycam24 Theologian someone who studies studies religions Elaine Deliil but later is popularized by chaucer in the canterbury tales. So this is a very old phrase and actually looked it up at the time all roads built in the western world did lead the Rome. 06:55.80 programmeral Is it. 07:04.80 programmeral Um, if. 07:05.70 tonycam24 But I think this actually for the show it means like all roads leads to the end of the world from their perspective. Yeah. 07:09.62 programmeral Yeah, there they're re reliving that that same cycle. 07:18.52 tonycam24 Yeah, we have Talbot referencing the shining when he says red rum after looking at 1 of Robin's pictures AhL have you ever seen the shining. What do you? yeah. 07:30.73 programmeral No I've seen a lot of things about it. But ah yep, that's that's probably the the majority of it. Yeah is that is that where you were going to ask like what do I know about? oh okay. 07:36.16 tonycam24 Yeah, you've seen the shinnan I know that. 07:41.45 tonycam24 No no I was going to ask you if you knew what red drum means? Yep yeah, no, that's it they see they see in the mirror. 07:48.89 programmeral It's the word birder spelled backwards is there bore to it. Oh okay, cool. 07:57.39 tonycam24 And like that he's been saying red rum because in his vision He saw it in the mirror. Yeah I think it's closed. 08:00.81 programmeral So there was a burger place I used to go to that I really liked that was called ah man all right? That's said it's yeah it was called Murder Burger and then they I don't remember why but they were told they had to change the name so they changed it to red Rum burger. 08:11.50 tonycam24 Um, a. 08:16.44 tonycam24 Yeah I bet it just meant made people feel uncomfortable it you isn in college town law people. Yeah or near York College are do they. 08:22.30 programmeral I guess yeah, all right fine? Yeah well the because they had 2 locations. Yeah, the the yeah the one I went to was in a college town the other one I don't remember where it was um, but that was the first one and I think that's the one where they had to change the name. 08:37.88 tonycam24 Um I I didn't know maybe the second location still exists I know the one in Davis closed. Yeah, ah we finally get a reveal of the name of the mysteriousre guy. 08:40.50 programmeral And then they open the second location I think ah all right. 08:53.70 tonycam24 So I can talk about cova his name's kovath. Ah, the reason I've been willing to talk to him not about his comic book character because he doesn't have one but the act who it plays them. Ah, this is his second role in the mccu al do you know his first role in the mccu. 08:53.97 programmeral Finally, but. 09:10.85 programmeral I Probably saw it when I was looking characters like looking up actors and I cannot remember at all. No who who was he. 09:16.50 tonycam24 Yeah, he plays a military liaison to general Ross pretty much. He's the guy who gives all the details about blansky in the incredible hulk like he's a russian he was born in Russia but he was raisin. Um. England blah blah blah blah giving all his exposition. Yeah, he but his most famous role or at least the one he's most recognized for to me is he's the guy who gets kicked into a pit in 300? yeah. 09:35.37 programmeral Oh okay. 09:49.83 programmeral Ah, oh okay. 09:52.89 tonycam24 Um, and finally we have superhero landing number 138 ruby landing after using her graviton gravitonium and fued flight and then she lands in the superhero landing. All right moving on to our heroes. So I've gotten broken down like this and you can choose where we start. We've got fits Fitts Yo Yo Daisy in may and then de colson a mac. 10:14.82 programmeral Okay. 10:23.91 tonycam24 Would we want to start with all right? So ah de comes to and starts off asking Mac and Colson for lady advice. Yeah I mean being the only 2 10:25.33 programmeral Let's go with deep Colson and mac. 10:35.87 programmeral As one would. 10:42.92 tonycam24 Unmarried man who have names in this base. Ah, it's logical. Although they're not in the best situations with their significant others or romantic interests. 10:57.21 programmeral That is true. Yes, ah does Deke even know that they have a partner potential I don't I don't know what to call Colson in may but yeah. 11:04.37 tonycam24 I bet. Yeah I don't think he would be know about that I think he knows about yo Yo Mac They're not hiding it. Yeah. 11:10.95 programmeral Me okay, all right? Yeah, that's true. Okay I don't know how long he's been on the base I don't know how long it's been like it could have been 4 episodes four days or or what? yeah oh that's true. 11:22.85 tonycam24 Yeah, but like yo yo and Mac he also knew them in space. Yeah, and Colson's an an older guy compared to him so maybe like he probably has experience. Yeah. 11:30.28 programmeral Okay, yeah, you're right. 11:34.94 programmeral And trust the with wisdom of your elders. 11:42.74 tonycam24 But yeah, bad choices. Ah bad options but he can't talk to anyone else his grandpa hates them. 11:47.75 programmeral Yeah, that's true. Also his grandpa's nowhere nearby. He's he's off on a mission. Yeah, but I do like that that he ah he goes with the the traditional. Ah. 11:55.44 tonycam24 This true. So so um. 12:04.18 programmeral Point of putting lemon into lemons into Daisy's bed 12:10.44 tonycam24 Ah, one in easter egg I dis decided not to include but I found out that Nowaday not nowadays I don't know how long it's been I don't even know but ah, ah, do you know what? a o three is. 12:22.57 programmeral No wait a o three or a zero three 12:28.66 tonycam24 Ah, a o three an archive of our own which is like a um, it's a fan fiction database people put a bunch of fan fiction on there right. 12:29.52 programmeral And no I don't. 12:40.61 programmeral Okay. 12:43.46 tonycam24 And you know they tag it Trigger Warnings content warnings stuff like that Hashtag lemons is now one of those based off agents shield for like aspiring like trying to sedue somebody or convince some to be a romantic partner. 12:45.47 programmeral Now. 12:59.55 programmeral Ah I like it. Okay, ah Tony dibs dibs that is that is one of my fast facts for this episode fine. But I chose one. 13:01.55 tonycam24 Yep, Um, yes. 13:08.42 tonycam24 Too late. We already pass fast Fs and you chose a poor one. Yeah to I'm only up and post a note you've got 2 13:22.84 programmeral Ah, all right I got it kind of white out that somehow on the other side of the country I'll figure out a way. 13:24.89 tonycam24 All right you and and go fly. You go fly to Sacramento break into my house just to replace it with another one with one on there and I won't notice. Okay, okay. 13:39.89 programmeral Yes, that's the goal I think I think I could pull that off all right? thanks. 13:44.65 tonycam24 Good luck, good luck all right? Um, yeah, so at this time they knows that Talbot has paused the camera on ah like watching Robin's room so they go and find him. Ah, Colson and Mac go track him down as tab is trying to kidnap Robin and Colson actually I think does a smart thing for a half a second 14:17.69 tonycam24 Where he tries to use the programming against them saying you must was it like your compliance will be rewarded. 14:23.88 programmeral Yeah, yeah, he he tries right? like he knows like hey oh this makes sense. It's a hydra thing that they do ah mind control stuff. Let's see if this works right? and it makes sense right? because obviously they're gonna build something into. 14:28.48 tonycam24 Earth. 14:40.62 programmeral Help like they're they're going to build a fail safe in in case for some reason he does something against them. So yeah, give it a shot at least try it. 14:43.69 tonycam24 Yeah. 14:51.57 tonycam24 Yeah but unfortunately ah Colson what? ah Talbot almost kills himself he like pulls a gun on himself because he knows he's compromised and then Colson convinces him to let him. Ah. Robin go and turn the gun on him which he knows that something shield or how Hydra would want and that yeah and then ma slides in and ices them because we see the blue flash. Ah again I don't think may would be happy with this because I think Cololson's being reckless again. 15:12.30 programmeral Even yeah. Yeah. 15:22.60 programmeral Oh no, yeah I'm sure he didn't tell her about this and neither did Mac after Colson told him not to tell me. Yeah. 15:28.27 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah, yep, tell that you can tell everybody except for me and probably daisy Probably no one should know about this? no one should know about this Ma maybe fits. 15:37.28 programmeral Yeah, yeah, she'll go off on him. Yeah, exactly? Yeah yeah, just just keep it to yourself. 15:46.63 tonycam24 But that's because no one trusts fists. 15:50.56 programmeral You know? Um, yeah I mean that that's this is another moment where if things had gone differently it I'm sure it would have changed their future right? because the 2 things that we know are you know and in this episode we find out that. 15:59.40 tonycam24 Um, yeah. 16:05.59 programmeral Well looks like Talbot is the one who destroys the world and the ages the shielde need to let Colson die to save the world. So I I'm assuming if he died sooner that would probably help or if Talbot die or both if something happened to both. Yeah. 16:11.00 tonycam24 Better. 16:17.78 tonycam24 Yeah I mean I just had this just occurred to me that all this talk about Colson being reckless right now and they keep stopping him and the idea is at one of these moments they probably shouldn't have stopped him. It could already be too late. 16:27.89 programmeral Shift. 16:35.77 programmeral That's true. Yeah, you're right? and then think about that I mean we know obviously it's going to be the season finale. That's how Tv shows work. But you're right to them. Ah, they're like it could be any day not just any day in may. 16:40.51 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 16:50.53 tonycam24 Um, yeah, any day where may is present though. Yeah. 16:53.95 programmeral Oh yeah, yeah, exactly yeah April okay I guess but yeah, yes. 17:01.97 tonycam24 No yeah well I mean this this takes well, we're not sure if this takes place in April I mean the fact that we are like relatively sure that ah infinity war which is the next thing we'll be covering takes place in like. Lay April because they usually line up with them when they come out. Yeah I it was on Halloween I think they narrowed it down October yeah, ah, yeah, and then like iron man 3. 17:21.32 programmeral Yeah, that's true usually although apparently end game takes place in October what halloweed I think it's what it was oh okay, all. 17:37.41 tonycam24 Came out in may buzz Christmas themed so hi Manda all right? Um, so. 17:39.39 programmeral Yeah, true. 17:52.39 tonycam24 Ah, anything else for Colson Dekin Mac 17:56.55 programmeral Ah, no, no, that's pretty much everything that happened with them I assume because my notes were pretty sparse for them. So I've got nothing else to say. Yeah. 18:04.81 tonycam24 Okay, all right, Let's go up to fitsimmons because the daisy and may stuff kind of bleed into that Anyway, all right? Um, so yeah, they're fixed in the pod right. 18:13.20 programmeral Okay, you know. 18:20.41 tonycam24 When I'm not going to go through it again. Colson should or Knuckles and fits should let simmon die but whatever. Um, yeah, do you think? well not do you think? Yeah, do you think they intentionally sabotage the machine by putting in backwards or it was a legitimate mistake. 18:22.22 programmeral A yeah. 18:38.32 programmeral You know I don't I I think it was a genuine mistake I would go with that I mean they're human and they're under a lot of stress like in this moment specifically and under a lot of stress but they've also been under a lot of stress for however, long since they got back. 18:42.54 tonycam24 Who. 18:58.50 programmeral From the future Plus when they were in the future. So. 18:58.81 tonycam24 Plus they when they were in a machine plus when there were robots taking over plus when ghost rider was there. They've been in stress for 5 years 19:12.82 programmeral yeah yeah I mean I'm sure that they've had like a week off here and there but yeah ever since ever since all of the stuff with ada in the second pod of season 4 like they haven't had any time to to stop? yeah. 19:27.35 tonycam24 yeah yeah I don't think there I I legitimately don't think they've had a break since between season 1 and 2 when Simmons went to Hydra and Fitz was recovering from doing the damage. 19:44.27 programmeral Ah, no there. There were a few things right? like ah there there was the time in between season 3 and 4 when they had to rebuild. 19:51.10 tonycam24 Oh they got house together. They were looking for a house together I was just talking Fitz and Simmons. Yeah. 19:58.61 programmeral Oh yeah, yeah, that's true. Oh just them Oh as characters. Okay, um, yeah, there's that I mean that they did rebuild ah try to rebuild shield right? So there was I'm sure there was some time there where they weren't running missions just doing boring paperwork. Um, and. 20:05.12 tonycam24 Oh. True true. 20:15.56 programmeral Fitz was pretty chumming chumny with I forgot that guy's name the the scientist guy who built ada. 20:21.24 tonycam24 Oh yeah, um, ratcliffe. 20:23.38 programmeral Yeah, Redclie yeah, it seemed like fits would go over and like they would work but they would also like grab some beers and watch soccer. Yeah, that happened a few times and they yeah so they they've had some time some some doubt time but but at a minimum. 20:31.27 tonycam24 What's yeah. Okay, well,, that's good. 20:40.30 programmeral Once they went into the framework like it's been every single day since then. Yeah. 20:43.80 tonycam24 Yep, yeah so yeah, so whether intentional or non intentional ah Ruby and struckr co blame them but they fix it because they're going to kill a simmons and fits as a coward. 20:51.57 programmeral Music. 21:00.86 tonycam24 So ah, yeah, and they try to activate the gravitonium and gravittonium doesn't like listening to people. But so it doesn't they know they don't think it's going to flow but it is going flow probably because it's got 2 minds of people inside of it. 21:17.91 programmeral Yeah, that's true is oh wait are the minds in this Gravittonium Also so in in this and also in crusher creel. 21:23.13 tonycam24 I Think yes this is just because of what we see with Ruby later she he starts hearing the voices as well. Yeah I think it's now at least this gravitonium I don't know where there is other gravitonium. 21:29.93 programmeral Oh that's right? Yeah, okay. 21:42.16 tonycam24 But this thing gravitatorium completely contaminated with um those 2 guys Quinn and hall. Yeah, so yeah, so it starts flowing and fitzsimmons are confused and um, yeah. 21:46.92 programmeral Even yes, yeah, Okay, yeah. 22:01.17 tonycam24 I Kind of want skip over Daisy in May and do all their stuff because then they're going bust in non missings. Yeah, yeah, so they find the same base Daisy and may find the base are on the zephyr one I. 22:07.38 programmeral Um, yeah, um, yeah, okay. 22:14.28 programmeral The the main the main base right of that Hail Hail space. Yeah. 22:19.37 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah, they use the distress signal the mix send out when Daisy killed ivanoff. Um I really like this dynamic of the 2 women in charge and the 3 guys staying home. You don't see that very often. 22:27.97 programmeral Um. 22:33.80 programmeral 2 Yeah, it's true. You don't I mean these are the the 2 heavy hitters right? These are the the number one fighters. So like yeah, cool send them and they don't need backup. 22:39.46 tonycam24 Um, yeah. 22:47.72 tonycam24 No yeah, um, yeah, ah may staying in character. She refuses the gun from Daisy saying if she needs a gun. She'll get 1 which has always been true before and then these. 22:57.68 programmeral Yeah, that's true except for except for the episode where she said that line the first time where she found out that she should have taken more guns. That's what what ward told her is they got outconned by people. Oh I think it was. 23:13.53 tonycam24 I'm trying to remember the first time she said that. 23:16.51 programmeral It was like the second or third episode of the series back in season one and it was is was she says that line she says if I need a gun I'll take one and then this was where they're they're going after that oh 8 4 that staff that like you. Okay, yeah, second episode. Yeah, and so they get surrounded by the. 23:28.81 tonycam24 Um, yeah, that's the second episode. 23:34.19 programmeral Local police military people I don't remember what they were. But yeah, then Ward says you should have grabbed more guns. 23:35.84 tonycam24 Um, if. 23:39.54 tonycam24 Yeah I really miss early shield I know people like did not like it because it wasn't maybe it wasn't as connected or something but it's like before like the first half of season 1 I think it's some really quality stuff just because you get to. 23:49.40 programmeral E. 23:57.22 tonycam24 Know the characters and I think it's because I like the characters so much now. 23:59.30 programmeral Yeah, oh yeah, no, it was something there was I kind of want to rewatch some of it because of that slog like I ah to remember why like I I do remember when we rewatched those episodes for this podcast I remember thinking? Yeah God Yes I remember thinking. 24:06.28 tonycam24 Are. 24:11.90 tonycam24 Six years ago 24:17.81 programmeral Yeah, it's okay I don't remember it being as much of a slog but there was some bit of a a slog and like maybe there were just more episodes that were less less entertaining ah to it? Um, but like yeah now they're all like I mean ever since season 2 every episode. Is related to the rest of the season. It's an overarching story and that's it. It's no, it's no monster of the week kind of style. 24:43.29 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah, that's something I really wish they had done was a monster of the week that's what I thought the show was going to be um, the kind of like ah Buffy I think Buffy and angel are like the star. 24:49.00 programmeral Me. 24:57.12 tonycam24 Versions of this and the xfiles too is yeah, have an overarching plot but maybe half of the episodes are just random adventures that go on. Yeah yeah, but yeah, but back to this episode where we are. 24:57.28 programmeral Women. 25:05.23 programmeral Yeah, yeah, a lot of shows do that. 25:14.89 tonycam24 May and day I think they sneak in really subtly if you remember a missile and then the containment pod flying down the containment pond. Yeah so I think they could have gone suddenly but may want to get their anger out. 25:19.93 programmeral That's right with ah a missile or 2 you. 25:31.88 programmeral Yeah, yeah, she she's had some some buildup I think probably still from that anger stick that is guardian anger stick from season 1 so she she wanted to to release all of that. Yeah yeah. 25:37.39 tonycam24 Oh yeah, yes. 25:46.22 tonycam24 Do you think? So I don't know if we talked about this during the 8 episodes. But how long is it supposed to be until the anchor sick wears off like a century. 25:57.70 programmeral Um, I think I think I camera' remember the guy's name that that as guardian guy. Um, but he said something like 50 years 26:00.34 tonycam24 Yeah, okay I think she might be in the clear soon because well is it her physical body or is there is her mental state because she has all the memories of being in Hydra for years. 26:07.30 programmeral Has up. Okay. 26:19.50 tonycam24 And that's an entire lifetime. 26:19.76 programmeral Oh okay, so if you're assuming that she's late 30 s early forty s. 26:25.10 tonycam24 That's added just a 50 I think she's in her late 40 s she's more mature person. Yeah. 26:28.97 programmeral Okay, so so let's say she's 45 just to make the math easy so forty five years plus x number of years since the start of this. Yeah for you? Okay, that that's possible. Okay. 26:39.40 tonycam24 It's been four years yeah Yeah, if you count like this was middle of season one. It's probably been about 4 years 26:48.62 programmeral Ah, if it is just mental life. Then maybe that's what it is but I would assume that there's a mix. 26:52.73 tonycam24 Um, and I'm just yeah, if there's a time in the future either end of this season and of season 6 and season 7 where she's decide to settle down ever. Maybe it's cause her rage stick wore off. 27:09.50 programmeral Maybe yeah, um I actually have ah another thought I had a theory about something that happens in the future. But we I not going to say that until season 7 So yeah. 27:14.18 tonycam24 Yeah, we'll we'll save. Yeah, okay yeah, fair, but yeah I I feel like there's a argument to be made that the anger stick is wearing off. 27:26.51 programmeral That's fair. Yeah I I could see that I don't like it but I could see that one. Yeah, but. 27:30.68 tonycam24 Yeah, but hasn't worn off yet because she'd get her anger out on all these robots and the Hydra people. Yeah so they bust in um, the daisy and may start to kicking butt with minimum quaking. 27:34.86 programmeral Oh. 27:47.32 tonycam24 Probably because they know gravitoniums nearby and then hail surrenders because she's afraid of Ruby becoming the story of worlds. Yeah. 27:50.11 programmeral Yeah, got to be careful. 27:58.97 programmeral Yeah I mean she's like basically needs to team up with the shieldees to go stop Ruby Essentially yeah. 28:06.82 tonycam24 Yeah, ah, yeah, so yeah, they kind of bust in um I think at this time because this is where I wrote the note. So I assume it's this time that Daisy like. Through their video call with Colson deacon Mac Kind of tells Colson to step off when he's telling giving her advice. Yeah, so I mean yeah, she he wants her to be the leader. She's being the leader. She's I not sure she's being the best leader. But. 28:32.19 programmeral He ah. 28:43.70 tonycam24 Neither is Colson. 28:45.42 programmeral Ah, yeah, that's true. He's he's on his whole dumb decision mode. Yeah exactly? Yeah yeah. 28:49.83 tonycam24 Death kick. Yeah, all right? Um, do we want to get into all the ruby stuff or wait till the villain section. 29:01.10 programmeral Ah, let's let's wait until then I think which is pretty much like the last fifteen minutes of the episode. But yeah, yeah. 29:06.94 tonycam24 Yeah, um, anything else for our heroes that we want to talk about I don't have much for yoyo. 29:13.40 programmeral Yeah, same um I mean I I have a little bit but that's all tied in with ruby. So yeah, all right? cool. Let's take a quick ad break Tony what do these 3 things all have in common chocolate. 29:19.96 tonycam24 Yeah, all right? Then we're done with our heroes. 29:33.54 programmeral Gravitonium and protein. 29:37.31 tonycam24 They're excellent for a shake. 29:39.48 programmeral Exactly you cannot consume them in their pure form 86% dark chocolate. That's just gross and 100 % whey protein that a whey protein. 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Yeah, that yeah I didn't even consider a shake. Yeah. 30:51.90 tonycam24 Yeah, ah yeah when I when I think of protein I think of protein powder or like a steak but all right moving on to our villains. 30:55.23 programmeral New. No, That's fair, no. Okay, oh yeah, I Guess I guess he did get upgraded to villain in this episode. You're right. 31:06.78 tonycam24 Let's start with Brainwash Talbot. Ah yeah, yeah, ah he just kind of walks into their armory. It. 31:20.69 programmeral Yeah I mean okay I. 31:24.30 tonycam24 In a world with lmds rubbo faces brainwashing probably other things I don't know are there shapeshifers possibly there. A scroll Colson knows about scrolls. 31:35.12 programmeral I mean if ah oh yeah, you're right, he does. Ah oh boy. Um yeah I mean so I had I had a throwaway line in the description. The rundown of this episode saying that all of those people that we saw. Ah, couple weeks ago like the the shield staff they're no longer there. It's just the shieldies like so I don't know I guess whoever's supposed to be watching that stuff. They're out at the catch a concert or whatever. So. 31:57.22 tonycam24 Um, yeah. 32:09.44 tonycam24 I Guess so I mean you think they'd have pretty strict protocols. 32:14.35 programmeral You would think so but shieldes all all of shield. It's it's something about her and I don't know what it is. But yeah. 32:23.89 tonycam24 Yeah, so yeah, so he takes a ah gun and ah Mac notices him looking at security cameras this is about the time when he pauses that screen but ah. 32:32.95 programmeral E. 32:36.50 tonycam24 Really good brainwashing because he just falls back into his regular patterns of speech. Yeah so I don't know if this's better or worse than previous brainwashing. We've seen by hydra. 32:40.47 programmeral Yeah. 32:52.41 programmeral What What do you mean worse like or better or worse you mean like for the person. 32:55.30 tonycam24 I mean I don't think it's I don't think okay I don't think it's is it better or the same as previous brainwashing butydra. Okay yeah, I'm. 33:02.23 programmeral Oh I was assuming it's It's the same thing. Yeah I don't think they've had that much time to research better ways to do this especially because their main person who did that research is gone. 33:18.17 tonycam24 Yeah, but this is also one of his like protege students isn't hale ah like a proge of Whitehall. 33:26.28 programmeral That's true. Yeah, yes, we don't know how much she learned to to brainwa people at Hydra school. 33:32.22 tonycam24 Well enough to enough to brainwash. Ah, ah Talbot like this. 33:35.80 programmeral Yeah, that's true. Okay, cool. 33:41.15 tonycam24 Ah, yeah, so I thought for sure that he killed Robin's mom but apparently she's still alive. 33:45.88 programmeral Yeah, that's what I thought to so good for her. Well which which would have made sense right? Like oh that's how may would end up with her but okay, cool. 33:49.78 tonycam24 Yeah. 33:58.38 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah, he finds some pictures so that Robin Drew of him standing over a shattered earth ah, which I would interpret of him like he broke a globe somewhere because but yeah, so yeah, this. 34:11.69 programmeral Um, yeah, yeah. 34:15.14 tonycam24 Really proving that even if they stop Ruby and destroy that well if even if they stop Ruby for sure. There's still the roads lead to the end of the world I mean even if they save the world just the big purple Aliens go snap half the people away anyway. 34:22.84 programmeral Yeah, yeah. 34:32.75 programmeral That's true. Yeah, oh boy. Yeah. 34:33.83 tonycam24 Yeah I ah yeah, and then he I wrote down he kills Robin's mom he didn't she's still alive but he tries to take Robin and then we already talked about them talking him down. Yeah. 34:50.35 programmeral Um, so there was a point where Talbot almost killed himself right? Why exact like what was he was it I wrote down like 2 possible reasons I'm wondering. Maybe there's a third is it. 34:51.81 tonycam24 A. 35:01.85 tonycam24 Okay. 35:05.16 programmeral He wanted to not work for Hydra like he hates them that much was it that he did not want to destroy the planet or was something else. 35:13.50 tonycam24 I Think a guy like talbit is not completely believing. He would be able to destroy the planet. He's kind of like more grounded than actually reality in the Mc who needs because stuff is that this world is that crazy. 35:21.92 programmeral Okay. 35:27.58 programmeral Yes. 35:33.38 tonycam24 But yeah I think he's compromised and he can't control it kind of like how bucky felt after being brainwashed by Hydra also. Ah yeah, he can't trust himself so he'll never be able to. Ah. 35:41.29 programmeral E Yeah, okay. 35:49.52 tonycam24 Yeah, he'll never be able to trust himself, he'll never be able to trust himself with his family back a military anything. So yeah. 35:54.83 programmeral Okay, it makes sense. Yeah, yeah, at any point in time. This could just come back and heal Kidnap a future seeing child. 36:01.29 tonycam24 Is. 36:08.29 tonycam24 Yep, you know how many of those we got running around at least yeah I mean I'm gonna say at least 2 I'm sure there's a mutant out there who can tell the future I'm sure there is I can't think of 1 right now. 36:09.75 programmeral Like 3 or 4 So. 36:19.29 programmeral Yeah. 36:25.15 tonycam24 But I'm sure there's 1 36:25.42 programmeral Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. 36:30.82 tonycam24 All right moving on to ruby finally, we've kind of like done cliff hangers with her twice. So she she enters the chamber um, and they do a Steve Rogers they close the chamber and add this. 36:36.90 programmeral Um, yeah, exactly. Um. 36:48.39 tonycam24 Sci-fi thing first it was vita arrays now it's this. Um yeah, and she starts glitching like they do like this weird cut scene thing of her ah glitching out and freaking out so they shut it down with 8% as you mentioned earlier. 36:51.51 programmeral Yeah, and gravitonium. Yeah. 37:07.86 tonycam24 Yeah, and. 37:10.97 programmeral Yeah, and it's I mean that 8% also took ah a little bit of time to write like she was in there for 30 seconds a minute. It was so like to get the full 100% 37:17.23 tonycam24 Here. 37:24.17 programmeral That's got to be a lot of excruciating pain over time. Yeah for I don't know half an hour or something at least maybe even longer god maybe even an hour. Yeah. 37:24.81 tonycam24 Yeah. 37:31.86 tonycam24 Yeah, because gravitonium seems to be a fluid so does this stuff are this stuff bonds with the Dna right. 37:41.90 programmeral I Have absolutely no idea sure. Yeah, let's say yes. 37:44.25 tonycam24 Yeah, they they say they say or get how they explain it is it bonds with a Dna I can't remember if von strucker said it or maybe fit said it or something like that. But that would like well it's gravitonium so it wouldn't do this but it's like that would make you heavier. That's like actually adding mass. 37:49.80 programmeral Oh of cool. 38:03.97 tonycam24 Compared to like my theory is ah stark made a similar stark and Erskin made a similar thing to give Steve his powers but they infued him with Vita Rays which who knows what that is but rays are not mass. 38:21.63 programmeral Oh okay, has you what you mean. 38:23.10 tonycam24 So I think it would be like yeah, it'd be painful but less painful because it's not physically adding something to you. 38:31.18 programmeral That's true I Mean then again gravitonium if it is physically being added to you then you're just always using the power of the gravitonium to be lighter. 38:42.20 tonycam24 Yeah, that's true too. But like I don't know it doesn't make sense. But also this doesn't make sense so I'm fine with it. Yeah, but with just 8% ah 38:44.94 programmeral Is this. 38:50.85 programmeral True. Okay. 38:58.50 tonycam24 She's having trouble controlling her powers because she crushes obstively her closest allies head. 39:03.25 programmeral Yeah, yeah, she like so like she's not in control over powers right? like I don't know if it's it was an accident or if it was she was in pain and this was her like kind of trying to you know like when you squeeze your hand, you're in paint. She just did that to him Accidentally right. 39:08.48 tonycam24 Yeah. 39:17.53 tonycam24 And get. 39:22.90 programmeral Ah, or she just decided to kill him like that's that's also possible. We don't know we don't know much about her. You. 39:26.42 tonycam24 Yeah, it's true it's true I think the way she reacts that it was one of the first 2 options. It was either accident much like rogue and xman 1 excellently killing her boyfriend or like quake when she first got her powers with like destroying stuff left and right on accident. 39:37.53 programmeral If you. 39:43.58 programmeral Yeah. 39:45.75 tonycam24 She has no yeah, she has no way to control it yet in fact, ah daisy tries to talk her down saying you need to control your powers like I can help you control your powers and doesn't go. Well yeah. 39:56.11 programmeral No, not at all because she just wants to fight Ruby Ruby just wants to fight daisy. 40:06.10 tonycam24 Yeah, ah yeah, hail tries to talk her down. It doesn't go Well so yo-yo shows up? yeah. 40:16.70 programmeral It's she just sees Ruby for like a fraction of a seconds is oh no, no, no, no, we got to we we got to stop this now and. 40:21.24 tonycam24 Um, yeah I don't I mean I feel like I don't need to always bring up D and D but I like to she's definitely chaotic good. She just she's super impulsive I mean it works with her powers. She Sees ruby. 40:37.46 programmeral Um, yeah, yeah. 40:38.19 tonycam24 And kills her yeah slice her throat and her body starts to float and she lets have this grabutonium wave are we to believe that now it's been a couple of weeks days we don't know how much how time works. Since those flashes of light that piper like tricked them into um coming are the. 41:02.41 programmeral Oh yeah I I would assume a couple of weeks I think they did say at 1 point that something had been a few weeks between episodes. Yeah. 41:10.24 tonycam24 Yeah, so are we saying that possibly this light is the light. That's um, they see in the sky before the end of the world. 41:20.46 programmeral Maybe did this light go where ah. 41:20.67 tonycam24 Because it like it left. We know it left the base they do an outside shot the base and it like expanding so who knows how far it went. 41:27.78 programmeral Oh okay, yeah, that's possible I mean this base looks like it's kind of in the middle of nowhere though like that that's kind of what I'm thinking maybe maybe whatever light is at the end of the season. That's what I'm trying to exactly yeah I don't know. But. 41:41.20 tonycam24 Yeah, and we'll see if there is a light. Yeah yeah. 41:47.50 programmeral I mean yeah, it could just be that light that we saw the first half of this that that piper led them to like that would make sense. Maybe I guess I don't know because that's a couple weeks if someone said what happened at the end of the world I wouldn't think oh yeah, so this thing happened like a month and a half ago I don't know anything about it. 41:53.76 tonycam24 Um, yeah, yeah, that's. 42:04.92 tonycam24 Fifth. 42:06.94 programmeral And then you know 6 seven weeks go by and then the world's destroyed so I'm pretty sure it had something to do with that light I have no proof exactly? yeah. 42:09.33 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah, yeah, especially in a world where all these other things can destroy the world. Yeah so who well not who knows we will find out if there's another flash of light. Somewhere in the remaining what 3 episodes of the season for episodes. Yeah 192020 when do I do 4 episodes? Yeah, so yeah, um, that's the end of Ruby and that's the end of struck her. Yeah and. 42:31.27 programmeral Ah, yeah, 4 we have 4 episodes after this one? yeah. 42:40.80 programmeral yeah yeah I mean 1 one thing related to this with Ruby I'm convinced that yo yo or I think that Yoyo is convinced that she just saved the world. Oh that's probably why I wrote that down cool. Well all right. 42:51.20 tonycam24 Yeah, she she does. She says that doesn't she yeah she she says I just saved the world. Yeah, but unfortunately she doesn't know that this episode's called all roads lead.dotdot yep 42:59.40 programmeral Ah, okay, all right? yeah. 43:06.24 programmeral dot.dot 43:10.50 tonycam24 To Rome if the finale' non rome I'm gonna be very disappointed I'm gonna be moderately disappoint actually I'll forget about this? yeah and in the post credit scene hail teleports to covas and tells them that they can kill shield. 43:14.38 programmeral Well, we'll see Yeah probably that one's more likely. Yes, all right? cool. 43:29.36 programmeral Yeah I mean okay sure she's she's angry. You know she just lost her daughter. Yeah, all right? That's fine. 43:30.60 tonycam24 That's it. 43:33.66 tonycam24 Um, yeah, yeah, all right anything else for villains all right moving another guy in the chair I've got creole who's not doing well. 43:41.53 programmeral Ah, no I've got nothing else. 43:47.27 programmeral oh yeah oh yeah I forgot about him. Yeah, let's let's talk about him I had Talbot but we moved him to to villain for this episode I don't know if we'll leave him there but we'll find out. 43:55.96 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah, well we'll find out where he is next up. Ah yeah, so creole is still hearing halls and quins voices fighting in his head so he turns into cement and starts slamming his head against the cement wall. 44:13.57 tonycam24 2 Yeah. 44:15.70 programmeral That's not. It's not a good afternoon for him That's gonna that's gonna hurt tomorrow I assume I don't I don't actually know. 44:21.65 tonycam24 I'm actually real concerned because the if the ball can crack soak in his head because it's also made the same material. What does that do when he turns back to human does he have a giant gash in his head or does it reseal. 44:24.94 programmeral Now. Yeah, true. 44:33.16 programmeral I don't know um I would assume he is healed he like it comes back resealed because in a couple weeks ago or we saw him fighting Ruby Ruby through the heard zeno weapon Adam and it. 44:45.91 tonycam24 Yeah. 44:51.99 programmeral He like used he used the wood he was touching to to like catch rare to like it just it went into him right? So I'm assuming that if he didn't heal then he would have some really giant gash and organ damage inside because that went a little deep. 44:54.13 tonycam24 We've turned to 1 Yeah. 45:06.18 tonycam24 Possibly Okay I will accept it. Maybe he just need. Maybe he just needs to pour more cement into his head. 45:09.68 programmeral So I assume he's healed. 45:15.85 programmeral Cool which means that it's ah, an easy way to heal him Maybe that one? okay. 45:22.61 tonycam24 He just like the wound in the chest he just filled with like wood glue and then turned back to himself. 45:28.39 programmeral Okay, all right either way, it's an easy way to fix. Ah any kind of cut or scrapes. Okay, cool I have nothing for 12% how about you all right? Well then. Ah Tony how. 45:33.80 tonycam24 Yeah, that's all I had forgotten the chair. Yeah, same here. 45:45.75 programmeral Many um, let's see because this is out of 5 how many twenty percents of gravitonium. Do you give this episode. 45:57.32 tonycam24 I like this episode a lot is not is not top ti but I'll give a ah for in this episode I'll give it 80% but for because it's easier for people to understand. Yeah yeah. 46:03.80 programmeral So eighty eighty percent gravitonium okay that that makes sense. Yeah four yeah four out of 5 instead of 80 out of 100 I like that we we'll do that? Um I think I'm I'm also going to go with. 46:14.77 tonycam24 Yeah, okay. 46:21.51 programmeral I'm going to go a little bit lower three and a half three and a half ah gravitoniums out of 5 Yeah, yeah, we were to go with something like that. Yeah, right? Yes, somebody yeah. 46:23.74 tonycam24 also called set also called 70% yeah or if this was rotten to mate if this was rotten tomatoes. It would be 100% because we're both reverse and we're both more positive than negative. 46:39.76 programmeral Is that is a how roten tomatoes were is it just is it just positive negative. That's it a 1 Oh okay, okay, good to know where cool. Yeah, let's wrap it up. 46:42.62 tonycam24 Yeah yep, that? yeah, that's why Rotten tomatoes isn't the best. Yeah, all right? 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