00:03.69 tonycam24 Welcome to the Marvel cinema rewind the podcast to rewatch its reviews and replaces 1 strange for another in every movie show in one shot in the Marvel cinema universe I'm Tony Cameina and you can follow us on Twitter at mccu Undersw Rewin and give us a rating. 00:13.90 programmeral And I'm Al Rodriguez 00:21.69 tonycam24 On whatever podcast app you are currently using or a podcast app. You don't currently use but you have on your phone or podcast app you download whoever you rail us we approve and with that today's episode is. 00:32.14 programmeral In. 00:36.33 tonycam24 Our results episode for Dr Strange in the multiverse of madness premiere date couple days ago probably a week ago when you read this. 00:42.37 programmeral Mohahaha. 00:48.65 tonycam24 May sixth. 00:49.81 programmeral That's right, ah did did it take you a while like were you just doing the math in your head because you didn't write it down. 00:54.93 tonycam24 Ah, yeah I would like like to my calendar to give it. Ah okay yeah max. 01:01.11 programmeral Ah, or may fifth for those of you who like seeing the Thursday before even though that's not the official day. But yeah. 01:10.64 tonycam24 Nope, It's may six. That's what it says in all the commercial um stuff. 01:13.42 programmeral Exactly all right? Let's let's talk about this episode all right, everyone This is yet another results episode so reminder on our spoiler policy. Ah we might spoil Absolutely everything that has happened in the Mcu So just heads up. If. There's something that you have not watched yet that you want to and then you do not want it spoiled maybe download this episode Anyway, like you already have but then go watch the other thing and then come back All right. 01:42.55 tonycam24 Yeah, literally everything's on the table ah including the in humans. Apparently he. 01:52.50 programmeral Apparently? yes, ah all right? and because this is ah is a results episode reminder on how that works again. This is us telling points to figure out who wins. Um. Every question is worth a maximum of 2 points. Usually we will argue to get a measly one point on it and that's that's that's the show. That's what you're listening to us to talk about today. We've each brought see total or we have brought a total of 8 questions. So a max of 16 points. 02:16.24 tonycam24 If. 02:26.59 programmeral We'll see how that actually works out and if you want to see what this has been in the past just go to our website http://mcorewind.com and click on the prediction results tab on the top right? and so that'll take you to the page with all of the past predictions and the prediction episodes and the results. So if you want to just follow along and. See how well we've all done so with that hey Tony what did you think of this movie of Dr Strange and the multiverse of Mattis Maha ha ha 02:47.60 tonycam24 Yeah, well I've I've seen it twice. Um, the first time and this happens to me with the law Marvel movies I go in with expectations and it doesn't line up with my expectations. Always um. And I'll come out was like well we could have been better and then the second time I watch is like I know what's going to happen and I just appreciate for what it is and I like it a lot better. The second time. Um I think I'm still trying to side because I've not been quiet about. My love for Wanda Maximoff and try and decide if I think it was a good character move to make her the villain I Don wouldn't say it's character assassination because she was Wada Vision was messed up but like I don't want I don't want wada to be the bad guy. But then when you see one as a bad guy. She's like the best bad guy so I'm conflicted. 03:48.45 programmeral Ah, that's that's fair, you know that's a thing that I I need to do because like like you I used to do the exact same thing of of seeing it twice over like opening weekend and then just because of like pandemic stuff I just have not done that. 03:58.14 tonycam24 A. 04:06.40 programmeral For that past handful of movies I've always seen them in theaters once and I should go back to that now that I'm more Ah okay with spending time in theaters. So yeah, um, but yeah I had ah a similar thought. Um you know spending the past couple days thinking about this a little bit more letting it stew. 04:14.35 tonycam24 Yes. 04:25.89 programmeral I still have I think my original thought which I'm just going to go ahead and read something here. So just so everyone knows Tony and I have kind of a standing agreement at the end of us having seen the film. We will text the other person how many credit scenes there are. Um, so whoever texts first we know that they finish and then the other person then we can you know start a whole conversation going back and forth so I'm just going to read. 04:47.60 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah, it's a lot easier since you're on the East Coast than I'm on the west coast you usually just text me. 04:53.30 programmeral Ah, yeah, yeah, in the past there have been times where like I'll see it really late at like 11 for yeah, whatever reason so you but ah, but um I'm gonna go ahead and read the text that I sent Tony which I sorry Tony if I like got your hopes up a little I felt a little bad sending you too much but I'll read it. 04:56.85 tonycam24 Ah, yeah, that's true. 05:12.74 programmeral Ah, also with no cursing and fixing the spelling mistakes that I sent in my text to end credit scenes f holy effing s that was intense I was not ready. It changed me a lot and probably not for the better. 05:29.62 tonycam24 Ah, yeah. 05:31.85 programmeral So um I mean I really liked it I like the intense is the only word I can think of to describe this film because when Wanda goes full ah not holding back anymore. Like she said when she was holding back like that's that's one of the scariest villains. 05:41.16 tonycam24 In here. 05:51.26 programmeral I've ever seen in anything. Um and you know what thinking about that more now I definitely need to see it again. I will be seeing it again this week okay 05:56.15 tonycam24 Yeah I was talking to my friends about today and was like not with exception on Thanos there's no other marvel villa I thought was like a legitimate. They could kill the heroes I was like oh god. 06:10.66 programmeral Um. 06:14.47 tonycam24 I mean maybe they wouldn't have killed strange in this but America she was in danger. Yeah. 06:18.55 programmeral Oh yeah, she definitely was I mean that was that was the goal was to kill her and she wanda very well might have done that like can you imagine if that's what they did. They just said you know what? yes Wanda just kills her takes her power. And that's going to be like the the arc for like the next 4 or 5 movies. She's the big bad now. Yeah I I could have seen them do that like I I don't think they would have but I could have seen that being a possibility. 06:39.48 tonycam24 She is the fanos of of the space I wouldn't. That that would been a bold move. Um, what are your opinions on America. Yeah. 06:54.26 programmeral E. 06:59.19 programmeral I liked her. Um she she was a teenager I Um I don't know I don't have anything for or against her really um, like she she was good good for the plot. Um, and that's it. Yeah. 07:08.19 tonycam24 Who. 07:15.20 tonycam24 Yeah I liked her. Um I'd like Stephen with kids or teenagers after seeing him with team spidey in the last movie and then this like I approve of this. 07:17.51 programmeral Ah, but you. 07:33.54 tonycam24 Um, yeah I don't know I don't know America that well in the comics. But I she's a character I'm looking forward to see more of later down there down the line. 07:45.42 programmeral Yeah, exactly especially since so much of the current landscape of of things is multi Multiverse stuffs or at least it's It's not in everything but it's at least in a few things. So yeah, that'll be that'll be interesting to see see that character grow. 07:53.27 tonycam24 Ah. Um, yeah. 08:04.13 programmeral I Do know or vaguely know from reading stuff that her her origin is a little different from the comics but not too bad. Um I Think the big difference that I noticed was ah like they they implied that in the movie. Like it was just her accidentally using her powers that not killed her parents but sent them away I think in the in the comics like her world was destroyed and she was sent away something like that. So like that's I was going into it assuming. 08:32.24 tonycam24 F. 08:39.73 programmeral Same concept. But yeah, this works that this will make for a nice reunion later on. 08:39.82 tonycam24 Yeah. Yeah, there are 2 more things that i' bring up before we go into our thing. First of all, did you know who charise Theron was playing at the end. 08:47.98 programmeral Um. I did not I mean I assumed. There's a ah name for that character I Just I have not looked it Up. No. 08:59.79 tonycam24 Ah, her she is Cleara who ah spoilers for the comics and I guess probably doctor strange three. Um, she is dor momu's niece. She is a sorcer of supreme of the dark dimension. 09:13.35 programmeral Um, peace. 09:18.40 tonycam24 And eventually she marries Stephen and then Stephen is currently dead in the comics and she is the sorcer of sp supreme of earth right now. Yeah. 09:26.63 programmeral Oh okay, well that does explain why in that scene when she like cut a hole into whatever Universe she was going to it looked like the dark dimension from the first film. Okay. 09:33.14 tonycam24 Reality. Yeah yeah, I'll know how I feel about strange like having a third eye hands being like all I'm just going continue on my day and then just jumping in through a portal to this person. 09:48.78 programmeral Ah I I was assuming that that was more of like ah a character trait like he grew as a character in this film and now he's more like oh yeah, okay sure. 09:50.20 tonycam24 But maybe that's like the third eyes idea. 09:59.47 tonycam24 Are. 10:05.74 programmeral Let's let's go. Let's um because what was at the end of the film. He was like all um, like are you happy like? let's let's do do whatever to to be happy and so now he's more living in the moment like okay sure so I assume that was more like yeah okay sure I'll go help you instead of. 10:11.95 tonycam24 Ah. 10:24.12 programmeral No, no, no I have to stay here on Earth and do wizard stuff or tore horror stuff and yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, always forget that. 10:28.32 tonycam24 You know? yeah he doesn't have his hat so I want one of the variants to have a hat. He was a wizard not the sorcer but no um, also another theme. Ah ah Christine tells him that he always has to hold the knife. 10:37.25 programmeral Um. 10:47.88 tonycam24 And Charize Theron Orlia has a knife that stranges and holding. 10:52.82 programmeral Um, maybe he'll try to take it later. They they just met. 10:54.52 tonycam24 Probably it's the only way he played the long game at least 15 minutes alright and then the other thing I want to bring up was the thing. Everyone's talking about freaking black bolt. 11:01.34 programmeral Yeah. 11:10.90 tonycam24 Also the luminati but black boltt. 11:13.60 programmeral Um, yeah, yeah, um I don't I don't have much to say um, cool gay I guess I don't. 11:20.50 tonycam24 Now it validates our podcast. 11:26.10 programmeral Um I I sure I guess I don't I don't know. Um. 11:33.60 tonycam24 Its the suffering we had going through the inhumans. 11:37.30 programmeral Sure. Ah, yeah I So as as I was watching the movie I I started thinking like because you know I've I'm famously known famously known for. 11:44.89 tonycam24 With favorite song. Yes. 11:53.51 programmeral For not liking multiple universe things and that kind of stuff in media and I think one of the things or 1 of the reasons why I just don't care about alternate universes is it's it's similar in my mind to like you know how you watch a movie or Tv show. You know something other than Marvel. And then in it they have their own in-world Tv show which is just making fun of something else in in the real world right? but this is like internal and and it looks so stupid because it's just meant to make fun of something else. But like if you actually watch that like it. 12:17.79 tonycam24 Here. 12:30.72 programmeral It might actually be a good show like there's there's a reason why it made it on two Tv and if it's a continuing thing with the show you're watching like if you're watching something that's 6 seasons in and they've been making fun of it for all 6 seasons then maybe it is actually ah a really good show. Um. But you never get we the audience never get to see that and I feel like that's kind of the similar thing that I had with multiverse stuff here like this other world with the illuminati that could have been a really cool set of stories. We'll never see them. It'll never matter at all whatsoever that entire world. 12:58.52 tonycam24 Her. I. 13:06.29 programmeral Could be completely screwed now that the illuminati is gone. We'll never know. Oh oh yeah. 13:09.26 tonycam24 Well I think they are a hundred percent think they are but um I also have a theory of the way this could be important to the mccu. What if the upcoming x-men 97 series is. 13:21.70 programmeral Oh okay, what's up. 13:28.45 tonycam24 A prequel to this and that professor x is the one from the x-men and then they slowly start bringing in the rest of the illuminati and like season 3 they form the illuminati and all fanos and all that stuff happens. 13:31.19 programmeral Ah. 13:46.57 programmeral That would be cool. Um I don't I don't think that that'll ever happen because we know when those characters die and. 13:48.90 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah. 13:56.30 tonycam24 But if it's based off the x-men they introduce all the other xmen and then incursion happens and then that's how you bring them into 6 1 sixty s first yeah ah probably not. 14:01.94 programmeral Yeah. 14:08.80 programmeral Yeah I could be it. Maybe I know I Yeah, that's it's entirely possible, but exactly yeah there there are so many infinite universes. Why does it have to be this one. So I mean there's a paint universe. 14:20.21 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah. 14:26.71 programmeral As dumb as that is. Ah yeah, ah yeah, and then the last thing that I personally really wanted to bring up about this this movie freakgging music Magic What is that that that's got to be a thing that that. 14:28.00 tonycam24 Ah, it's true. There is a paint universe. Um. 14:42.33 tonycam24 Ah, every every time. Good good. 14:45.60 programmeral That has to be a joke. It has to be a joke that that existed in the comics that they only threw in I I don't recognize it But what. 14:54.46 tonycam24 Ah, every time I think about it I go back and forth whether or not it was it was stupid or amazing right now as we record I'm on the stupid side but earlier I was like. That's completely different from them just shooting sparks at each other so that's better like actually all of strange's magic in this one whether or not the music was stupid or not was more creative than what we'd seen previously and I liked it like he he had a fish up appear. 15:26.20 programmeral That. 15:29.97 tonycam24 And eat something. Um, he just has snake hands. We thought that was going to be a strange supreme who doesn't show up in this but he just has snake hands for a few seconds and then doesn't happen again. 15:31.16 programmeral But yeah, that was weird. Ah. 15:47.64 tonycam24 Yeah. 15:48.30 programmeral That's I do like yeah I agree with you I Like how that was more imaginative but the the music magic I Just when I go back and forth. It's never a good thing. It's. 15:51.49 tonycam24 Here. 16:00.19 tonycam24 That okay, well I yeah I mean I've been saying this a lot to people who've been talking movie about about the movie is when you watch something that Sam Ramy has made. 16:02.72 programmeral Is it bad or really bad. So I guess I'm a little too critical of it. 16:19.53 tonycam24 It's always quality with a fine layer of cheese over it and if you like cheese. It's okay and I don't mind cheesy things I mean I'm a big Star Wars and Star Trek fan and so are you though, but they can come off real cheesy. Oh. 16:25.13 programmeral That's true that is true. Um, true. Oh yes, yeah. 16:38.85 tonycam24 Also before I saw the movie for the first time I watched the finale of Picard and the premiere of strange new worlds and the fact that both those captains showed up together on the illuminati that was kind of surreal. 16:54.54 programmeral Okay I like that it it let in. So so that's why Paramount Plus had to start strange New Worlds that week because they knew they were going to get a big bump in subscribers for everyone. 17:04.36 tonycam24 Ah. 17:11.42 programmeral Having seen Dr Strange 17:11.83 tonycam24 Or they see you down another. They see you out name more and put him in because I knew they Marvel get a big bump because of changing your worlds. Okay. 17:24.28 programmeral Definitely not that one but all right? Um, we should. We should go over these results. Hu all right? cool. Well let's let's let's just go through them question number 1 Tony what is the catalyst. 17:32.96 tonycam24 Yep. 17:41.68 programmeral To the main story a villain a natural disaster a result of Dr Strange doing something for spider-man previously or something else. 17:48.38 tonycam24 All right al. Do you have your answers up I did not copy paste them. 17:52.39 programmeral I do did you not copy paste mine ahead of time. Okay, no problem. Sorry everyone you're listening to how we normally do this anyway. So I said Dr Strange wants to learn more about the multiverse. 18:02.20 tonycam24 Here. 18:09.72 programmeral So he casts a spell to look around doesn't realize anything bad happened until much later and also this has absolutely nothing to do with Spiderman no way home. 18:17.96 tonycam24 And then I said they were incursions from other realities probably because strange weakened the borders these include shumaorrath and America chavez so I'm going to say it do it wasn't because he weakened the borders. 18:31.21 programmeral I. 18:36.51 tonycam24 But it definitely it includes shuagorra or whatever they never named him and ah America Chavez so I'm gonna say one point for me. 18:39.50 programmeral Um I had I I don't know about that about a point for you. That's like it. It wasn't it didn't cause the story. 18:50.30 tonycam24 I mean what's the catous of the story. Yes, it it did it brought our strange into the story. Otherwise it's ponyta strange and multiple versus Amandas. No this doctor strange. 18:58.82 programmeral Move. 19:07.24 tonycam24 We don't know whether the other screen got M d. 19:12.50 programmeral That's true. We don't you it could have just been Ph D Um, ah all right I I will begrudgingly agree to give you a point on that one I get it. It makes enough sense. 19:16.85 tonycam24 Yep, he still be a doctor. 19:24.82 tonycam24 Begrudging all right 1 board for me. Yeah, yeah, all right question number 2 the most objective one all right. 19:29.40 programmeral And definitely zero for me. 19:35.20 programmeral On a scale of 1 to 10? How much madness is in this movie now we made a scale last time so one to 10 one being the least amount 10 being the most um one is effectively. The amount of madness that we got in the hawkeye disney plus tv show in the middle of scale 5 would be the amount of madness we got in Captain America civil war and finally ten would be what we saw in one division. So I said 7 ah Tony what did you say. 20:06.64 tonycam24 I said nine point five um I honestly think you were closer. Ah, although we didn't define what kind of mad because like ah Wanda was really mad. 20:10.26 programmeral Okay. 20:25.53 tonycam24 She's angry and crazy. 20:28.54 programmeral I I I so I vaguely remember last time you you put down a a number eleven I just didn't write that down on my scale and the 11 would be anything more badness and I don't ah yeah I don't know I I think this was. 20:39.47 tonycam24 Yeah, any more than one division. 20:46.47 programmeral The most madness that we've ever seen because ah when when Wanda goes full ah ah, supernatural horror killing machine. Ah, yeah, yeah, that's that's the reason I keep saying this movie is so intense. 20:56.00 tonycam24 Start? Yeah, full full start The witch. 21:03.52 tonycam24 If. 21:05.81 programmeral I I think that this is a new level I think this one does go to 11 now. 21:08.85 tonycam24 Wow. See the problem is after we did this predictions episode I Saw everything everywhere all at once which is the most mad movie I've ever seen in my life is great, but it's the most mad movie I've ever seen. 21:19.22 programmeral Ah. Um, all right? Well how about we give you one point and I think that's that works I Think so yeah, yeah. 21:27.93 tonycam24 So it's really skewed me like my expectations. 21:37.39 tonycam24 Okay, because I was closest all right I'm not gonna argue with a point. Yeah now. Nope. 21:44.20 programmeral There's so much subjective subjectiveness to this answer that no one really should have asked this question. That's that's just a dumb one. We'll never let that person ask more questions this person asked. What are the people in this illuminati type group up to. 21:54.70 tonycam24 But what does this person ask next. 22:01.44 tonycam24 I. 22:03.34 programmeral I said that ah there are alternate dimensions that are being destroyed and they are warning the Mcu strange about it happening mostly because he kind of noticed it and redirected it to somewhere else. They don't want him to destroy their universe. 22:17.66 tonycam24 And then I wrote that they are trying to be the new Tv a but some of them are more interested in getting power for their reality over doing what is best for all time. Um I'm actually yeah. Being really generous I feel like I'm going to give you that point because they were very concerned about strange destroying their universe and incursions. 22:39.58 programmeral Yeah I was gonna argue try to argue for 1 point on that but cool. Thank you. 22:43.98 tonycam24 Yeah, um I think we believed that the Tv or that Tv a sorry the illuminati was a bigger part of the movie than they actually were. 22:49.42 programmeral Consistent. 22:57.18 programmeral Yeah, yeah, we we were just assuming that they would would do a lot more but I mean it makes sense right? You you see the the trailers and like half of the scenes are them in this other universe with the illuminati. 23:12.90 tonycam24 Earth. 23:14.76 programmeral And the ultrons and I mean that's it. But that's all you want to talk about great. What you see those? Ah so yeah. 23:18.49 tonycam24 Um, yeah I forgot I asked this earlier. What was your opinion of John Krazinski as Mr. Fantastic. 23:25.70 programmeral But no. 23:31.36 programmeral A like I mean he's a good actor. Ah he he did a good job I didn't really care one or the other I Um yeah, this was one of those things like every character on the illuminati was spoiled for me months ago and it was tough like to tell. 23:34.40 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah. 23:45.40 tonycam24 Fifth. 23:49.54 programmeral Like especially going into it like okay I don't know if they're all spoiled or how many of these are fake like I also saw another rumor about Tom Cruise being in there as ah as a Tony Stark from another dimension because he was originally gonna be Tony Stark many years ago im glad that one didn't happen just because it would have been way too much. 23:56.63 tonycam24 Yeah. 24:02.57 tonycam24 1 24:08.47 programmeral But hey I didn't really care to be honest, like cool good for him I'm curious if he will want to come back in the fantastic 4 movie or not. 24:13.10 tonycam24 Yeah. Yeah, I'm not against them I more I know read Richards through reputation and actually reading a law. Fantastic 4 comics where he's like the smartest man on earth and kind of a jerk and he didn't he's pretty friendly and. Not that smart. So I know we only saw him for like 3 minutes so 24:39.42 programmeral Ah, ah, that's true. Yeah I mean this is like I relate that this is like a batman problem right? like Batman loses all like pretty much always the first time he's dealing with the problem because he's never dealt with it before. 24:54.49 tonycam24 Her. 24:58.12 programmeral And then after he goes back and he learns some more like okay well now I know how to fight this and I feel like it's the same similar concept here with Mr. Fantastic like he had never fought a scarlet which wanda before and so he he was assuming like oh yeah, we I mean we beat Thanos um. I mean it. It was a problem sure you know we were at war with Anos and and the whole army but we did it I think we'll be able to beat the scarlet witch and um I think that he was at least assuming that they would get away ever the first fight. 25:18.33 tonycam24 If. 25:33.61 programmeral So apparently not. 25:33.71 tonycam24 Yeah I mean that's fair and they did she did deal with him first when no second got blackolds and is jello head. 25:40.68 programmeral Um, yeah, yeah, all right? Ah, that was the first 3 25:46.43 tonycam24 All right moving on at the end of our first round. Yeah, ah the current score is myself with 2 points and you with one point so we'll see how it goes? Yep, ah, my first question was will wanda. 25:58.28 programmeral All right I'm catching up all right. 26:06.26 tonycam24 Be the main villain I said no she will be antagonist but there will be a larger enemy that they will team up and fight was you right. 26:14.81 programmeral I wrote something similar I said nope she's just around to help at 1 point she will do something against the main hero goals like something selfish like trying to make a family again, but it won't derail the main mission too much so big fat 0 for the 2 of us. 26:28.72 tonycam24 Um, even though yeah, like even though we both said she'd be antagonist. No, she was just the villain. Yeah yeah, yeah I have to watch that maybe a few more times to. 26:41.30 programmeral Yep, full on villain. Yep. 26:47.20 tonycam24 Ah, decided if I liked that but she was a great villain. 26:50.50 programmeral Yeah I mean I guess story wise it makes sense. She ends up with the dark hold and then that corrupts her like all right that makes sense. It's just you know, not really what you want as a fan right? So yeah, all right. 27:02.67 tonycam24 Um, second question was does Stephen become the source of supreme in this movie and if yes, how does he do it I said yes by protecting camarage when wong is thought dead tech. Technically like he would have come back but he was still sorcer of supreme I thought when he fellved that cliff I was like yes, he'll come back but they'll go crown him sorcers. Oh no, he came back. Ah what What did you? But oh good. 27:33.57 programmeral Ah, yeah yeah I forgot oh yeah I said ah nope it'll be Wanda and Wong will just give her sorcer a supreme yeah way off there? Yeah I was gonna say I forgot how how much of a. 27:44.12 tonycam24 Yeah, what were you better say though you thought about 1 27:52.23 programmeral Badass Wong is like he Ah, he's oh yeah, well I mean I forget right? He just practices fighting by fighting abomination and who knows what else. 27:52.61 tonycam24 1 is great. 28:03.60 tonycam24 1 is actually like Loki the most complex character because he has the same amount of adventures as the rest of the Marvel characters but he's never the main character so we don't see all of them. 28:08.50 programmeral Yes. 28:17.92 programmeral Yeah, exactly and as the sourcercer supreme he's ah yeah, and and I guess he's a better sourcer supreme than Dr Strange because Wong read the book that you get when you become sorcerer supreme. 28:31.71 tonycam24 I mean was was he ever crowned Sorcerer supreme. 28:38.31 programmeral Um I Ah I assumed so because he he lost it right. 28:41.58 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah I Guess so yeah I guess what? what was he even doing. He probably had that book. Oh no, oh no, no, no, no, no wong was the librarian. 28:50.68 programmeral But yeah, he just didn't get around to it. He was busy. Oh what. 28:58.89 tonycam24 Wong didn't give Stephen the book. 29:02.36 programmeral No, that can't have been it. 29:03.58 tonycam24 No, he was gonna make a play for sources stream the whole time then when Stephen got dusted. He was like what was my chance. 29:11.70 programmeral Ah, and he he just leapt right in like ah all right? Okay, it could have been it all right? and this is like a whole game of Thrones plotline here we got we got wong. We've got ah. 29:17.46 tonycam24 Yep, yeah. 29:28.44 programmeral Dr. Dr. Strange like gone and suddenly he's back after 5 years we got mordo doing whatever like just repeatedly try to kill him and this is offs screen that we'll never see. Yeah. 29:31.34 tonycam24 Not good a half. 29:38.70 tonycam24 Yeah, or it's gonna be the third one? Yeah, ah. 29:42.00 programmeral Maybe oh they they they seem to imply that like yeah, we're just never gonna do anything with that storyline so Moredo Yeah, you just kind of shows up. You tried to kill me a few times and that's it like oh okay, yeah. 29:56.22 tonycam24 I guess why not all right? My third and final question was other than strange supreme who we actually did not see well we see any what if any other what avengers and who I said Captain Carter I was not spoiled on anyone except for professor x for the record which like I know the trailer dropped after we recorded it. 30:24.55 programmeral Yes, yeah, yeah, that um, her being in it was confirmed after we recorded So I think it was like the day we dropped that predictions episode. Um now. Okay, yeah I'll read my answer. Um. 30:33.10 tonycam24 I know I was like so somewhat bitch. What did you put. 30:42.61 programmeral I said that one headed Paul Rudd will make it appearance in a scene and it will be hilarious. Yeah it it would have been if that happened but it did not happen. Ah now Tony as far as your your answer goes this is tough because on 1 hand we did get Captain Carter 30:43.42 tonycam24 Um, if it would have been. 31:00.17 tonycam24 R. 31:01.81 programmeral On the other hand I'm not sure if that's the same Captain Carter from the what if series that's just a variant. 31:09.41 tonycam24 Yes, but for the argument in this. We also don't know that she's not she's the only one who's close the closes aligned to the what avengers. 31:16.17 programmeral Um, that is true I mean at a minimum. Yeah I'd give you 1 point of debating if I would agree to the 2 That's that's my problem like I we. 31:28.90 tonycam24 Um, yeah. 31:35.20 programmeral Don't know if it's the same universe I'm assuming it's different because what we saw the little bit that we saw of her universe in the what if show was that it was basically a mirror version of the mccu except for Captain Carter in place of. 31:52.32 tonycam24 Well, the only thing we saw different or I mean the only thing that we saw that was the same was hawkeyes in there and black widows in there and they can still be on the avengers because she was introduced as the leader of the avengers which means the avengers exist with probably skinny Steve. 31:53.39 programmeral Captain America 32:07.99 programmeral Okay. 32:12.20 tonycam24 Skinny Steve as the iron man out analog and bodyless paul red I no probably not. He was a whole different dimension. Huar. 32:21.66 programmeral all right all right I'll all right I'll give you 2 points I I can't argue against it even though I'm trying I'm I'm pulling it straws here but all right. 32:31.21 tonycam24 I know although I was because I like hey like it's the Captain Carter from the show is like oh no, she's oh no poor skinny Steve he's just left alone in the twenty first century 32:47.92 programmeral Which I mean again could still be a skity Steve from a a different multi for like I'm sure that plotline happened in a ton of well infinite multiverses right? when you have infinite that same plotline happens at infinite times. 32:58.90 tonycam24 No yeah, sure. Um, so at the end of round two al you are steadfast in second place with one point and I currently have 4 points so you. 33:07.46 programmeral Um. Yes, all right second place Tony I'm coming up. 33:17.82 tonycam24 Ah, very least you get the silver. Yep all right? Ah, here's our first question always ah, will this show have any scenes where they will hint in any mutants or xmen entering the mcu. I said very yes at the very least professor x and we will get a dead pool showing up like my my I said showing up in the mccu. My thing was like he would be transported from whatever dimension to the mcu 6 1 6 ah 33:49.82 programmeral And I said and I said no other than sir Patrick Stewart ah being there he will mention the x-men which will be called out by american chavez for just being a bad title and also that the word mutant will not be said. 33:51.63 tonycam24 I. 34:07.80 tonycam24 Yeah I think you're more correct because technically this was a different universe is not like the Marvel universe. 34:13.79 programmeral Eating. Yeah, exactly. It's ah ah like just having a mutant there doesn't mean anyone entering the mcu the the 6 one 6 that we know of um. 34:27.98 tonycam24 Yeah, yeah, yeah, this. 34:33.51 programmeral Yeah, there was the the line about x-men. But I mean Mega Chavez wasn't there did he did he or anyone ever say the word newton. 34:39.40 tonycam24 I Don't even think they said the word x-men. 34:43.40 programmeral Yeah. 34:45.48 tonycam24 Yeah, but they didn't say mutants either I'm still gonna give you 2 points. Yeah, despite despite America Chava is not there. You were dead on about the important stuff. 34:48.69 programmeral Okay, yes, all right. I I'm convinced that xmen entering the mu that there's no way it's gonna be in like in a Dr Strange movie or like someone specific like I think I think it'll be like. Some big known crossover like avengers type of thing or something to to that effect. 35:15.82 tonycam24 Um I I one rumor I've heard and which I hope is true because I want to see this is them bringing in x-men into other movies and then they unite in their own Avenger style movie like. 35:23.69 programmeral Is it. 35:31.47 programmeral That would be cool. Okay. 35:33.55 tonycam24 Bringing storm into black panther and stuff like that. 35:37.69 programmeral Okay, yeah, that that would be cool. No. 35:39.85 tonycam24 But still, even though we had a mutant they have not technically entered the mc we thought this was it. It wasn't it. Goddan master master's true. 35:49.87 programmeral That is true. You thought this was it I did not. 35:59.77 tonycam24 I Said various not just like yes, very. 36:01.19 programmeral Yeah, you know that's one of the things about the the movies lately I think we got so spoiled for a little bit there where there were so many crossovers that we just assume that it's it's world building but the most recent handful of movies like. 36:12.30 tonycam24 Ah. 36:20.12 programmeral All of the ones in this face have just been like their own world right? like the that's even Spiderman was just Spiderman like it wasn't m you world building you know, same for um, shang qi eternals. You know it. 36:27.16 tonycam24 Yeah. 36:35.64 tonycam24 I Mean it's it was world building but wasn't community building as much I think because yeah I mean except for black widow and hawkeye. They're all expanding the world on what can happen in this world. 36:37.75 programmeral Etc right? right? Yeah, that's that's a better description. 36:52.79 programmeral True. Yeah, but they're not. They're not creating new characters and or in the in the sense of well I guess well in hawkeye in a sense We we got a new character and good night and yeah, okay. 36:55.19 tonycam24 In my opinion. 37:06.41 tonycam24 Well I mean we got new. We got a lot new characters dude like all the entire cast is strong chi. We got Kate Bishop we got yelling a belowva. We got all the eternals we got lau characters month. 37:11.23 programmeral Me. 37:18.83 programmeral Okay, yeah, yeah I I don't know how to describe this. But I think we were both saying the same thing. 37:25.83 tonycam24 Monica Rambo yeah yeah ah we it doesn't feel like we're heading towards a team up for better ors I actually kind of liking this where they're all just going on their own adventures and they can cross over at random points but they are not. 37:32.90 programmeral Right. 37:38.44 programmeral Um. 37:43.42 tonycam24 We don't know that Infindi War is coming or that the avengers is coming. 37:47.97 programmeral Yeah, exactly. 37:52.54 tonycam24 All right last one is random prediction. My wrong prediction was Wanda will meet professor x which she did and she finds out. She's a mutant which she isn't and after losing so much she decides that. She's decides that ah she doesn't want to be alone anymore but she wants other mutants so she creates mutants in the mccu as a reverse has of m so like that thing you post on Twitter no comma more mutants did not happen. 38:25.30 programmeral It my prediction also wrong. It will be revealed that Westview was a nexus point between dimensions and the heroes will go there to make a deal with a demon not mifisto well no demons. 38:29.41 tonycam24 But was your prediction. 38:41.55 tonycam24 Yeah, Nope I mean I mean there was a demon but she controlled it at the beginning. 38:45.30 programmeral Or any of the other stuff that I said so it's I Okay that was that was a demon. Okay. 38:53.67 tonycam24 I mean and I think at least the mummy thing that killed um ponytail strange was I don't think Sch Mc go at this? um. 38:57.48 programmeral I don't I don't know if they said. 39:05.54 programmeral Okay I wasure Alright well still zero points for both of us. 39:12.72 tonycam24 Yeah, stills. Yep Ah I enjoyed this movie a lot and I'm glad like looking back I'm glad they didn't. 39:23.85 programmeral Easy. 39:30.44 tonycam24 Stuff all the things we expected in the stuff into a 2 hour movie I don't yeah I don't know where where they're going with Wanda or um America anymore though which is interesting because sometimes we always get an inkling of where they're going next. 39:33.65 programmeral Ah, same. 39:47.52 programmeral Yeah America Chavez was was interesting because at the end she just joins the sorcerers. She's she's learning from them like okay, that's not what I expected but that'll be like even more crazy powers for her. 39:53.66 tonycam24 Yeah, um. 40:01.46 tonycam24 We get an America Chavez Ned team up. 40:09.83 programmeral He's got to be the guy in the chair again. 40:10.35 tonycam24 No, he's got magic or at least he can open portals. Although no one remembers except for Peter. 40:15.46 programmeral Um, I exactly ah on the bright side at least Peter remembers. 40:24.14 tonycam24 Yeah I hope that ned's ah I think I said this earlier I want ned to be Dr Doom he combines technology with magic. 40:34.62 programmeral That could be cool but that'd be that'd be an interesting twist. 40:38.46 tonycam24 That would be worse than a Mandarin twist in the eyes of people who don't like the Mandarin twist. 40:45.27 programmeral I I agree I just but I mean I agree with that that statement I I'm still not convinced. Sony wants to work with Disney anymore on mccu stuff like I'm I will believe it when I see it is my my current thought process. But. 41:03.20 tonycam24 Yeah I on the other hand is 100% sure that next Friday movie will be firmly in the emcu. But we'll find out in we'll find out in 2 years because 41:10.56 programmeral And I hope that's what happens. 41:17.27 tonycam24 1 way or another so he's making a spyman movie in the next two years because that's what they do. 41:20.80 programmeral Oh man I hope Tom Holland is done taking a break from acting by then. 41:24.79 tonycam24 Well, there was another act. Oh it was Andrew Garfield who was saying he's taking a break from acting too. But he's like taking a three month break which isn't really a break is it like a long vacation. 41:34.72 programmeral Oh okay, yeah, did it Tom Holland say you wanted to start a family that's that's more than three months okay 41:39.86 tonycam24 Oh I I don't know about that I hadn't heard that I knew he like I read the headline he won take a break but I mean he should probably talk to in day about that they were still together right. 41:51.63 programmeral Um, I yeah I kind of ah assumed hope that she's in on that thought process. Um, because if not, ah. 42:00.10 tonycam24 Hopefully she didn't read the interview and be like wait. What? well anyway, ah final score l three tony 4 42:05.76 programmeral Well I. 42:15.25 tonycam24 I Got the crown back just because we didn't have any guests this time. Yay me. 42:18.16 programmeral Ah, so close I was so far behind then I got that 2 pointer and I almost tied you oh well all right. 42:22.70 tonycam24 Yeah, or out of a potential of a potential 16 points I got 4 not great Bob. 42:35.70 programmeral But it's still first place and um, again, if anyone wants to see what we've done in the past or how well we have ah you can go to our website http://mccurewind.com and click on the top right hand corner to see the prediction results and you can see there that Tony. Isn't a commanding lead with a grand total of 6 prediction episode results wins. 42:57.80 tonycam24 1 Well, that's a lot more than I thought. 43:02.10 programmeral Well you and I were tied five apiece until until now. Yeah, we've done a lot of these I'm surprised all right? Well ah hey everyone this has been this has been an episode of this show empty rewind. 43:06.90 tonycam24 Okay. 43:19.37 programmeral Um, join us and on Monday we're still doing our crossposting thing with our other podcast but this Monday we will be going over ah season 13 of er for the plot finders where we watched the first episode in the last episode of a season of a tv show we have never seen before. And try to guess what happens if you're waiting for us to get back into mccu stuff in a couple of weeks. We will be starting our 10 episode rewind of the runaways on hulu so that'll be great in the meantime if you could please follow us on Twitter we are at mccu underscore rewind and if you could please ah of your choosing. Ah, we would appreciate it if you gave us a 5 star rating I app a podcast or your favorite podcast app. Some people go around saying that as listeners you owe us which ah here at mc rewind. We don't believe that at all I just want that on the record. 44:09.70 tonycam24 Know if you heard that it must have been the variant of one of your hosts not the actual host or possibly split personality depending on what we were currently covering at that time. 44:14.58 programmeral Yeah. Exactly and this is the marvel Marvel cinematic rewind signing off. 44:25.71 tonycam24 Have a marvelous day.