TINT Podcast, Episode 23: Nadine Cummings Cecelia Taylor: Hello and welcome to the TinT podcast. That is to say--Thriving in Technology. Your hosts are Sam Moulton and Cecelia Taylor, members of the social & influence team at NetApp. Today we're going to be talking about the tools we all have in our pocketbooks to help us cope with uncertainty. But first, I had the pleasure of welcoming our guests for today the lovely Nadine Cummings. Please introduce yourself to our listeners and tell them how they can find you in the social sphere. You know the Twitters. Nadine Cummings: So hi everybody. I'm Nadine Cummings and I am the technical solutions manager at Arrow Electronics. You can find me at my Twitter handle, which is @Miz_Cummings. That's M I Z underscore Cummings. And it is a pleasure to be here with you Cecelia and Sam. Thank you ladies for having me on. Sam Moulton: Well, we are very happy to have you. we've been looking forward to this for a while. I'd like to get started is by having you tell the story about how we met. Cause I think our listeners like to know, how are these people connected? And, what happened first. Nadine Cummings: Right, right. So I was, recently tapped by Mike Lugassi and so those of you who know Mike, really wonderful guy, technical partner manager who works at NetApp, and Mike and I met about 10 years ago, actually over the phone. Funnily enough, he was the one that gave the thumbs up to my channel manager at the time. It's a higher meaning. And after we had interviewed over the phone, and then the rest is pretty much history in the making. so today we now work side by side collectively, providing training and developing NetApp relationships throughout North America for both big and small resellers alike. So I've been a part of the NetApp rockstar club, which is a quote unquote elite group of NetApp SMEs. And we [00:02:00] get together quarterly, we swap ideas, we share information and so forth. And in all honesty, it is more of like a geek presentation and free beer at the end of the session. But you always walk away feeling more knowledgeable and it is the perfect excuse to, to mingle with fellow SEs. Mike had tapped me a few weeks ago and asked, Hey, would you like to join Sam Moulton and the A-Team? This is a perfect opportunity with everything happening to create some awareness and build your brand and have more presence. After listening to you both on the A-Team meeting, I wanted to jump on the opportunity to, to follow or understand how I can manage maneuver through Twitter verse. So, Hmm. That is pretty much how, how we came and came to, to get connected. Sam Moulton: So you managed to sit through a presentation from me and Cecelia and the joys of social media, and then we took a look at, look at your Twitter handle and we're like, Oh boy, we got some work to do with this one. [00:03:09] But yeah, Michael Lugassy spoke very highly of you. And, he loved the idea of us kind of helping you grow your presence and, I want to ask you, how has that been going so far? [00:03:23] Nadine Cummings: [00:03:23] If I were to speak with integrity and I should, yes, [00:03:32] it could be better. I think I need to, and that I think I know I need to make it a scheduled type of activity or, or not place so much emphasis on getting it perfect and right. So that's one of the things I'm battling is, okay, I have a great idea for Twitter. I actually even have a list and it seems good when I write it, and then I think too much. [00:04:00] So [00:04:00] Sam Moulton: [00:04:00] overthinking the problem. [00:04:02] Nadine Cummings: [00:04:02] Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I think overcoming the fear of, of. Trying to be perfect is something we need to map. I need to master. With that in mind, I'm hoping that, To make more tweets available. [00:04:17] Sam Moulton: [00:04:17] It's available [00:04:20] Nadine Cummings: [00:04:20] weekly, monthly, et cetera. [00:04:22] Cecelia Taylor: [00:04:22] I think the key though is to just do it, borrow aside from, from Nike and just do it. It's doesn't have to be perfect. Even though people think that you're speaking, the entire twittersverse. [00:04:35]Don't worry about them. , Only worry about, thinking about whether you're tweeting it. Sam are tweeting at me. think that you're just talking to us, like we're having a one on one conversation, and then the more you become comfortable with it, then you'll find that it'll be, it'll flow easier. [00:04:49] It becomes like anything else with practice, it becomes easier to do. So I would just encourage you to just keep, just keep on. If, if you're only able to do it once a week or twice a week, that's fine. [00:05:00] Just keep pushing at it and eventually it'll flow where it [00:05:04] Nadine Cummings: [00:05:04] needs to just do it. Just do it. Thank you. [00:05:08] Yeah. I, I'm definitely gonna take that, that word or that piece of advice and then, do it and also do your best, right. Just do your best. [00:05:18] Sam Moulton: [00:05:18] I think we need to be accountability partners for Nadine. What do you say, Cecilia? Sure. A little regular check ins. Alright, so [00:05:32] Nadine Cummings: [00:05:32] sorry. [00:05:37] Sam Moulton: [00:05:37] How are we going to do it? Yeah, so that'll, we got all that out of the way. Let's talk about the pocket book. So tell me Nadine, what do you call that thing that you throw over your shoulder? Or at least you used to throw over your shoulder when you left the house or all night going out as much, but what, what's the word that you use for that thing? [00:05:59][00:06:00] Nadine Cummings: [00:06:01] I, I'll be honest, you know what I've been carrying around as of late, and when I say as a late, maybe like the last year a wristlet. [00:06:09] Sam Moulton: [00:06:09] Oh, wristlet isn't even on our list. Keep going. Keep going. [00:06:16] Nadine Cummings: [00:06:16] It is the thing. No. Okay. Well, I do have a pocket book slash purse, but I don't even remember what I call it these days. I will be honest, I will say purse to be on. but the risk is, it is like the new thing, right? It's handy. It's quick. I can throw all my, my, my debit cards in there and w and a lip gloss. I mean, what more do you need. [Sam Moulton: [00:06:39] So you've never seen my pocketbook, Cecelia Taylor: [00:06:44] Sam and I, and when I talked about the, the term pocketbook, because that's what our moms and grandma used to call it, or at least, what we, it's just what we grew up hearing and, and I guess we could do a poll on Twitter, but, but, but I digress as I am wanting Sam Moulton: [00:06:59] to be fun though. [00:07:00] I think we should do it. [00:07:01] Cecelia Taylor: [00:07:01] But one of the things about a pocket book or your purse or whatever, or even your wristlet as you call it, is the fact that it usually, it carries the tools that we need to get through when we're out and about. And it's something that we use to, cope in any way. Like, I need lip gloss because Lord dry, but. [00:07:22] Our pocketbook is what we use to help us in our way. And I think that we can think of that almost in a another way in terms of it's our coping mechanisms. And so as we're going through this time, we were talking about it and Sam was saying that you belong to a amazing women's group that really helps you, and that can be one of those tools in that proverbial pocketbook. [00:07:46] So could you tell us a little bit more about your experience in that group? [00:07:53] Nadine Cummings: [00:07:53] sure. so recently I joined this group maybe about two months ago, and I am still in it. It is a process and it is called "Be the Tree". And what it does is gives the ability to stretch beyond my growing edge, right? [00:08:11] So, one of the mantras we have is. To expose myself to expand myself and things like, maintaining or living in integrity. It's pretty much like a covenant to embrace your womanhood and create an and embrace your vision and your birthright. So that you can expand. And lately it has opened my eyes to the things that I want to change within myself, the, my past and, and where I want to go. [00:08:43] And if, if I were to provide an analogy to that and caring a person and the necessities in a purse. What I have learned from this collective women's group is to carry those things that I hold. They're like my integrity. I'm [00:09:00] not taking things personally. I'm growing beyond other folks actions and thoughts and building my own brand internally and externally. [00:09:12] So, this women's group has been a really, it's a journey and I really hope it doesn't stop, but it has been wonderful. So it's called be the tree. [00:09:22] One of the mantras we say is, be the tree. You were born to be. Deeply rooted, strong and free. And so now I've passed that onto you Cecelia and you say: [00:09:33] Yes, I will be the tree I was born to be. Deeply rooted, strongest free. And then you pass it to Sam and then Sam passes it on. But it's, it's a wonderful mantra to, to carry with you. [00:09:45] Sam Moulton: [00:09:45] I love that. And one of the things that, you had mentioned when we spoke about it the last time was that, that you don't get away with anything. That when you are not speaking the truth, that you are held accountable. [00:10:00] So tell me how that, how does that work? [00:10:03] Nadine Cummings: [00:10:03] Oh my goodness. The integrity piece. Right. So, integrity is one of the things that, that. We speak on every day or every time we meet, whether somebody shows up five minutes late. [00:10:16] You're now out of integrity. We've all agreed to be here at a certain time and somebody's five minutes late, and I am always late. I can tell you to that. I do not want to be called out. So I, I am on that phone three minutes before, but, take into account how, how important that is in your life. [00:10:36] Right? walking in integrity because. It makes you unmovable. Unshakeable. Right? So one of the assignments we had was integrity bucks. [00:10:49] Integrity bucks, like, okay, so if your integrity was money, and let's just say you received a thousand dollars a [00:11:00] day in integrity bucks, how much would you have left at the end of the day? [00:11:06] That's the question, right? So Sam. It is, it's Monday morning, go to work with a thousand dollars of integrity bucks. How much would you have left at the end of that week? Would you be able to feed, clothe, and pay your bills every day if you were paid with integrity bucks and gained and lost money based on how much you honored or dishonored your word. [00:11:31] Okay. So if I were to, I see Cecelia laughing. [00:11:37] No, no. Think about it. So, so I, so for instance, I'll walk out the house and I'll go to stop and shop with my integrity bucks and somebody cut me off in the parking lot. And immediately you think bleepity bleep or what? and those are the types of things where you now have to deduct [00:12:00] money from your integrity bank. So you start off, but, but at the end of each incident where you're out of integrity, whether it's with your patience, whether it's with your words-- especially with your words-- but guess what? Even in your head. Because I cannot tell you, I have a five-year-old, I say some things in my head, but you are out of integrity speaking those things even in your mind. Right? So, it has really forced me to look at how I think, and it is a real learning process. I am enjoying it. It is like being naked. Sam Moulton: Yeah, it sounds, it sounds very intense, I have to say. And so let me ask you, when you get to the end of the week, have you noticed that you're left with more money as time goes on or how, how does that Nadine Cummings: Work? It is funny, I had the argument with myself. Should I deduct that? No, that does not count, but it is true. But I, by the end of the week, I did have some money left over, but I, but, but you know what it did? It forced me to realize how much time I was spending on this one issue. You ever fight with yourself about the same thing? Or you are mad at somebody and you just keep your fighting in your head? Yeah. I lost a lot of the money in that bet, in that bucket. So, it made me, it made me aware, like you're spending way too much time thinking about this person and being angry at this person. That's out of integrity with your spirit, right? That's out of integrity with your growth. You can't shine, you can't grow. So, I was left with some money, but not enough to pay bills. Sam Moulton: [00:13:51] Okay. Well, so it was a just a one week thing or is it something now that you, you, you went through that experiment or that [00:14:00] trial or whatever, it's still, it seems like it's still in your head. [00:14:04] Nadine Cummings: [00:14:04] Yeah, it's still in your head. I mean, we were given it as an assignment for, I think, three days. Try doing it for life, you know? And I think eventually you learn from it. [00:14:16] Sam Moulton: [00:14:16] Yeah. Yeah. [00:14:17] Nadine Cummings: [00:14:17] I probably should pick that back up though. Okay. [00:14:20] Sam Moulton: [00:14:20] Well, I have to admit I'm envious. It sounds like an amazing group, to have that kind of support from women and to be in a, a place where you feel safe enough to really share and to have people holding you accountable. I think that you're very fortunate to be part of that. [00:14:38] Nadine Cummings: [00:14:38] Thanks to them. And you know what? I actually welcomed. Any and every woman who wants to join this, to reach out to me and I will connect you to this group. Perfect timing. I think a new one, we'll start a new chapter or a new process of women or new, graduate class. [00:14:59] I don't know how to call it, [00:15:00] but it's open to everyone and I encourage everybody to join it. It doesn't matter what your background, it doesn't matter how old you are. And I, and I, I really am honest about that because. We've had. We have women in this. My particular group has women from as young as 21 to 67 and it's not about age. [00:15:24] It's not about how much you make or get. We have so much in common. It's unbelievable. Unbelievable. [00:15:32] Sam Moulton: [00:15:32] Well, I myself might take you up on that. I'm writing it down right now to remind myself to talk to you about it. [00:15:39] Nadine Cummings: [00:15:39] Yeah. [00:15:41]Sam Moulton: [00:15:41] Shifting gears a little bit, let's talk about another coping skill. There have been a lot of articles that have been written recently, especially during this particular time about the, the benefits that journaling that writing. [00:15:53]About how you're feeling can help with mental health. And I have to admit, I [00:16:00] am a rainy day journaler. I wish I were more consistent, but I, I, I get off to a great start. I've got, day after day of, I'm writing it in, I'm doing well, and then I get busy with something and ha, I, I, I am amazing at my, with my ability to forget things, literally like, forget I was even doing something. [00:16:23] But anyway, enough about me, what, have you, is this something that you've tried to do at all? [00:16:30] Nadine Cummings: [00:16:30] I will say that being in a women's collective has forced me to journal because they ask questions and then you must write and writing really exposes a lot about yourself. And so it's been, it's been something that I do maybe twice every other two days or every other three days. [00:16:53] But, the questions that are asked, and journaling those questions, sometimes it's, someone asks you a question and you can [00:17:00] answer it in your head, but imagine getting five minutes to write it. We stay a lot more with that pen than you do in your head. Yeah. You [00:17:07] Sam Moulton: [00:17:07] think it's really think it through, [00:17:09] Nadine Cummings: [00:17:09] right? [00:17:10] Right. So it's helped journaling his health. It's like exposing yourself to expand yourself. That mantra, [00:17:17] Sam Moulton: [00:17:17] the, the journaling that I find myself most able to stick with or, or the one that seems like less, less of a heavy load is a gratitude journal. So, when I get back on my mission to to keep up with journaling. [00:17:34] I just think about, okay, what are the three things every day? What are the three things that you're grateful for? And it's amazing that once you get in that practice, you start seeing things you're like, Oh yeah, I'm definitely gonna include that in my journal today and I'm going to include that. [00:17:50] And Oh wow, I have way more than three things today, which is sort of part of that process. It's part of the, the positive aspect of, of doing it [00:18:00] and, talking, amongst ourselves now about, about journaling makes me realize that I do miss it. It's, it is, it's something that [00:18:08] works. I think really well. [00:18:11] [00:18:11] Nadine Cummings: [00:18:11] I love that idea. Gratitude journal. I love that. I'm going to write that down. How about you, Cecelia? [00:18:19] Cecelia Taylor: [00:18:19] Well, the funny thing is, I have never journaled before, until Covid- 19, the Coronavirus, reared in this concept of being at home in this unprecedented time. I'm motivated by tools. So if I can find a good tool that I could use. Super happy. So what I decided to do was create a journal for every day that we're in this shelter in place type of environment. [00:18:49]I found an online tool called day one, which is an electronic journal that allows you enter your entries, you can use it on your iPhone, you can email [00:19:00] to your journal so that you're, it's just a quick email to the journal and it. Creates a separate entry, you can use it on desktop, whichever way that kind of works for you. [00:19:11] You can create a journal, you can create different journals. I think I did pay for like the annual fee, which was some nominal amount. But, you also have the ability to print the journals. At any point. So if you have the bound into like a book, and one of the things that I, I often think about, especially as I get a bit older, is leaving a legacy for my children so that they can read about what I was thinking about. [00:19:37] So in the unprecedented times, 2020 Corona virus being for them to be able to say, what was I thinking during that time? So I, I date each entry with the day. So today is day 67 for me, for this particular journal. And when this is over, I will probably start a new [00:20:00] journal. But the thing that I love about it is there some days I have one sentence. [00:20:05] There are some days when I have paragraphs. and what it has helped me to do is to think through. What I'm, what I'm thinking, what I'm thinking about internally. I think sometimes we go through things and we kind of, feel them, but we don't necessarily put them into words and by thinking in terms of what is my future self going to read, or what is my, what are my children going to think about what I was thinking about at that particular time? [00:20:32] I have to be clear about what I'm feeling. I have to be clear about what I'm actually thinking. And most importantly, I have to be honest. And it forces us to be, to be honest with myself so that I can answer what what's really going through my mind to show maybe a more clear picture of myself. [00:20:53] So I have entries that are specific to the news that's happening. I've have interests that are specific [00:21:00] to, I found a worship service that I really liked and there was a message online and I wanted to share the link cause one day, Hey, maybe I want to go back to it. or there's a photo. I took a picture of my niece, she's a newborn. [00:21:12] and I wanted to share this in the journal because these are all the things that are going on in my life at this time. And I have to say it's been very, very helpful for me to stay focused and to actually believe, this is a season to everything and everything under heaven. There is a purpose and a time out. [00:21:30] Eventually this season will end, but being able to capture this season. While it's actually happening, I think is a unique process. So journaling for me has been different. I like using a tool versus a paper journal because I like Sam. I will buy little journals because they look pretty, and then I will put them off to the side [00:21:53] Sam Moulton: [00:21:53] shelf of them. [00:21:56] Nadine Cummings: [00:21:56] Beautiful leather bound books, right? [00:22:00] [00:21:59] Sam Moulton: [00:21:59] Yup. Pretty pretty colors. Yeah. I have to admit, I really like the feel of a pen and I liked the paper. I've tried some of the other, like, people have told me, yeah, I just type it right into the cause. [00:22:13] There's all those, there's a couple of different apps that you have on your phone already. Right. And I just, I don't get that same thing from it. I, I need to see the words on paper. Writing something down helps me remember. So, yeah, but I, that one sounds really cool. I love the idea. You could email it yourself. [00:22:31] Something, put a photo in there. I like that. I like that a [00:22:35] Cecelia Taylor: [00:22:35] lot. You can even put in audio recordings, so if you want it to, so like on my iPad I have it so that I can open it up and just. Press a button and record an audio note rather than actually [00:22:46] Sam Moulton: [00:22:46] typing. I think one of those weird people that walks around talking into their phone, [00:22:51] Cecelia Taylor: [00:22:51] but I think what's key is it's whatever, whatever your method is, whether you're writing it down more, you're speaking into an app or you're typing it [00:23:00] out or long form, whatever it is. [00:23:02] It's keeping the habit to be conscious about our thoughts and to be conscious about how we're feeling and being able to share that. Whether or not anybody else ever reads it, whether or not it ever goes anywhere. It allows us to center, and I think that for me, the reason why I use it as a coping mechanism is because it allows me to keep things in perspective. [00:23:24] Sam Moulton: [00:23:24] Yeah. [00:23:27] Cecelia Taylor: [00:23:27] Yeah. I'm just surprised and I've never thought about it sooner. [00:23:32] Nadine Cummings: [00:23:32] I love the idea though, that you, you've left this or, or the thought is, I want my children to understand what I was going through at the time and leave something for them. It's almost like a legacy. I love that. [00:23:45] Sam Moulton: [00:23:45] Yeah. Lots of food for thought here. [00:23:48]so we're gonna move on to our little segment that we do where we, talk about the feedback that we get on the Twitter verse. If Sam remembers. To actually tell people we're going to be [00:24:00] doing a recording, which I amazingly remembered to do very late last night. But, I was really pleased with the response we had. [00:24:08] What did I tell you? We had, 15 likes and five retweets and 10 comments. They were very similar in some ways and very different in others. So what I asked people to do was to share what their coping skills have been during this unprecedented time. And I will say that, cooking probably comes out, right on top. [00:24:33] So we had Paula Silva and Kat Troyer and Amy Lewis, and who else was talking about cooking? But I loved when Amy said that she's cooking from scratch. I think that sort of is, kind of a return to simpler times. Right. And I, I really liked that. Paula Silva is also doing breathing exercises using like the four, seven, eight [00:25:00] method method, which I have no idea what she's talking about. So I'm going to have to talk about, talk to her about that later. And, being outside and, just walking and, let's see who, who brought that up. let's see. Mel, Zuora I think talked about being outside. She talked about church. Who else? gosh, I'm just scanning this list here. [00:25:21] We got such great feedback. So Becky Elliot talked about walks, but she said, not gardening because she's had some difficulties with keeping things alive. but MJ Schmidt said, again, it's with the walking and the gardening, Anusha S new HSA. S I actually have to find out who a HSA is. [00:25:42] But, she talked about the, the joys of video chatting with her sister and seeing her three month old niece so she wouldn't have been able to visit with otherwise. our, our friend, Nana. who we met, who Cecilia and I met at insight one year. she's been able to make some extra income [00:26:00] online, doing some, for a marketing organization, which is pretty cool. [00:26:03] And she has a, she's a big fan of, and I, I don't know if I have this right, but TLC, lasso T which she's using for detoxing and cleansing. And I don't want to forget anybody. Oh, Karen Lopez had a good one. Naps. Who doesn't love a nap? Okay. If you can actually take the nap, if you can shut the brain off long enough to take a nap. [00:26:25] And, and Kiersten Nelson, she had something. I thought that was really sweet. she has started leaving out, a basket with treats. For the delivery people. Cause of course, all of us are, are ordering far more online than we ever did. And she sent a picture of that. That was, that was really, I thought that was such a nice thing to do. [00:26:44] And I'm thinking I didn't miss anybody. I don't think I did. I think I got us all, but, great, great feedback everybody. And, really appreciated that you spent the time to, to weigh in. [00:26:55]Cecelia Taylor: [00:26:55] So many helpful things and so many great suggestions that maybe we might [00:27:00] think about. I really need to do that. [00:27:01] Walking where we get, where I, take a few more walks around the block. there is, these are all helpful tools in our pocketbooks, those essential tools that help us to cope in these times. We barely scratch the surface, and as much as we'd like to keep going, we do have to get back to those day jobs. [00:27:19] But this episode would not be complete without the choice to put our guests on the spot and make them answer a surprise question that we didn't share an advance or did we? [00:27:32] Never know, Oh, here's a question and I will actually answer it at some point. one of the things I've done is I like to binge watch shows. On the lovely tubes. And depending on your streaming platform, you might have a specific one. I guess my question is, what was the most recent show or [00:28:00] series that you've bingewatched and did you enjoy it? [00:28:05] Nadine Cummings: [00:28:05] I'll go first. [00:28:06] Sam Moulton: [00:28:06] Okay. [00:28:06] Nadine Cummings: [00:28:06] I don't mind. so I love that question, by the way. [00:28:10]why [00:28:11] Sam Moulton: [00:28:11] did you wait a minute? Did you, you didn't help us come up with that question. Did you. No, [00:28:17] Nadine Cummings: [00:28:17] no, [00:28:17] Sam Moulton: [00:28:17] no. Oh, okay. [00:28:20] Nadine Cummings: [00:28:20] I might have a little, [00:28:21] Cecelia Taylor: [00:28:21] but I [00:28:22] Nadine Cummings: [00:28:22] still love that question. [00:28:23] Cecelia Taylor: [00:28:23] Regardless. I [00:28:25] Nadine Cummings: [00:28:25] think everybody's bingeing right now, whether it's on food, alcohol, definitely, [00:28:32] Sam Moulton: [00:28:32] definitely dreaming, right? [00:28:34] Nadine Cummings: [00:28:34] Yeah, yeah, yeah. so. [00:28:36] I'll be honest. You know what? What is so odd about my answering is that I can't pick one thing. I, I feel like I binge on Pinterest. [00:28:46] Sam Moulton: [00:28:46] I feel like binge [00:28:47] Nadine Cummings: [00:28:47] on YouTube videos. Some of the saddest stuff on YouTube. I love YouTube. I mean, I've got crabgrass, I watched this, a couple of videos last night. [00:28:56] I'll have killed crab grass and Clover going in my [00:29:00] lunch. Very, very interesting. And then I saw dogs that. That's funny. Have believed is now their mother. I mean, it's just amazing what people put out. I can, I mean, it's, would you like to watch this too? Like, yeah, why not? And before you know it, you're sitting there watching YouTube. [00:29:17] But if I were more specific about what I'm watching on Netflix, I started to pick back up how to get away with murder. I love that show. And yeah, I would love Annalise Keating. [00:29:31] Sam Moulton: [00:29:31] Yeah, I've watched like the first couple of seasons and then, I don't know, I, this is why it happens to us all the time where we start watching something, we're so into it, and then the season ends and we go off to something else and we kind of forget to go back. [00:29:48] Cecelia Taylor: [00:29:48] Yeah. Which is [00:29:49] Sam Moulton: [00:29:49] why I like it when you can watch everything in this, from that show, like in other words, it has five seasons. It's art. The show has already ended. [00:30:00] So, you've got [00:30:01] Cecelia Taylor: [00:30:01] five [00:30:02] Sam Moulton: [00:30:02] seasons to work your way through. That's like, that is [00:30:06] Cecelia Taylor: [00:30:06] like, you feel so rich, [00:30:08] Sam Moulton: [00:30:08] don't you? You feel so rich when you have that much content to watch. [00:30:11] Right. but I will say that the one that we're kind of stuck on right now, it's not something I'm, no, how do I want to say this? I love, we love fantasy and, magic and like the game of Thrones type things. And this is kind of a mishmash of that. It's on Netflix and it's called the Witcher. [00:30:34] And it is so good. And interestingly enough, it's based on a game. Cause when my son recommended, he goes, mommy says. I don't know if you're going to like it because it's, it's based on a game and I'm like, I don't care if something's good, I don't care where it comes from. But yeah, we're really enjoying that. [00:30:52] We're not even through the first season yet. And we, they're long, they're like an hour long, so you can really only get like one in a [00:31:00] night. And it's, and it's, and that's a good thing because when we start getting close to the end, I start feeling like. We have to slow down. We can't, we're going to, we're not going to, it's going to be gone too soon. [00:31:11] I mean, she was like, yeah, we did that with modern family. Interestingly enough, cause everybody, had been talking about modern family forever and we're like not watching that. It's a 30 minute, it's a comedy love death. We got, you know. What 10 seasons. Right. And we were able to go through most of it all at all the very same time, and it was just amazing. [00:31:32] So, all right. Enough about me, Cecilia, you're on the hook. Well, I [00:31:37] Cecelia Taylor: [00:31:37] completely agree with you about [00:31:38] Nadine Cummings: [00:31:38] the idea of watching [00:31:40] Cecelia Taylor: [00:31:40] when you have a lot of seasons. I accidentally started watching a series on Netflix called supernatural. I had never heard of it though, of supernatural. [00:31:49] Sam Moulton: [00:31:49] Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:31:50] Cecelia Taylor: [00:31:50] And by the time I got to season 14 I was like, I started to space out. [00:31:56] Yeah. There's actually 15 seasons wait until the 15th [00:32:00] season comes on, and then I'm good. But I started actually dreading it, the end. So I kind of stretched out my watching my binge watching. [00:32:09] Sam Moulton: [00:32:09] Yep. Yep. [00:32:10]Cecelia Taylor: [00:32:10] but the series that I, the, the series that I watched most recently was actually on crime, prime now, and it's called upload. [00:32:18] And it's a, it's a really interesting, quirky series. It's only 10 episodes, to this first season. and it's about if you could upload your consciousness after you die, to these various, heaven realms. It is very interesting. You've got to have to suspend your, your, your belief, right, to suspend any beliefs you have. [00:32:40] You have to suspend any sense of reality as well, to watch it. But it's a really fun type of show and it's kind of sweet. Unfortunately, one of the problems with some shows is they tend to try to leave some cliffhangers [00:32:53] Sam Moulton: [00:32:53] and you're like, Oh, but. So is it, but I really enjoyed it. [00:32:57] Cecelia Taylor: [00:32:57] Yes, we'll go with the season has done, it [00:33:00] has already been renewed for a second season, but, but right now it's just one season out there. [00:33:06] Go take. It's a fast watch. It's a fast watch. You would not think you're going to get through 10 episodes that quickly, but it's great. And what's really interesting is there is so many little Easter eggs in there and there's so much, there's, there's a lot of commentary. About capitalism in there that are kind of quirky and fun. [00:33:26] So I would just, I want to actually see the series again. I think I'm going to go back and watch it again because I know I missed some stuff, so I want to actually see it again. So, I, I do love it. I love the whole concept of bingeing. My husband has a two, two episode limit though. We can always watch two episodes of any show [00:33:43] Sam Moulton: [00:33:43] time out of time. [00:33:45] Oh, interesting. Interesting. Yeah. I guess that's one of those marriage closet items [00:33:56] of, [00:33:59] Cecelia Taylor: [00:33:59] Oh [00:34:00] yes, it's a, it's a, it's a marriage closet item. [00:34:05] Nadine Cummings: [00:34:05] Okay. Cool. Well, [00:34:06] Cecelia Taylor: [00:34:06] well that kind of wraps up this episode for the day. I have had a blast talking to you. A time has flown with you. Really, this has [00:34:16] Nadine Cummings: [00:34:16] actually been been great, to be honest. I'm enjoying this. Do we have to end right now? [00:34:22] Cecelia Taylor: [00:34:22] We kind of do. At some point we kind of have [00:34:24] Sam Moulton: [00:34:24] to end up, well, we must at least turn off the recording. [00:34:27] Yeah, exactly. [00:34:29] Cecelia Taylor: [00:34:29] But to our listeners out there, we thank you. We know there is a bunch of podcasts you could be listening to and we really appreciate the time you took to spend with us. We hope you will add us to your queue of must listen to podcasts. We want to hear your feedback. We want to hear from you. [00:34:45] Let us know what works, what doesn't, what could we improve? Send us an email: ng-tintpodcast@netapp.com or find us on the Twitters and we will be happy to chat with you. Thanks again for listening. Until next time.