00;00;30;05 - 00;00;45;04 Speaker 1 What's up, everybody? Welcome to the Overachievers Gaming Podcast. I am your host Vash joined as always by chef Kondo is a demon hunter and Ashley Pastrami is out today. He is being a real person somewhere in the life of in the wilderness, enjoying his life. 00;00;45;04 - 00;01;00;25 Speaker 1 No idea where he is. Hope he's okay. Mr. hotdog legs himself. Joining us this week is from the in our podcast Dutch sub and then also friend of the pod and Diablo extraordinaire got his plan. Stan How's it going? 00;01;00;25 - 00;01;01;13 Speaker 1 Stan No, no, no. 00;01;01;22 - 00;01;03;09 Speaker 2 I think that's got Diablo addiction. 00;01;03;09 - 00;01;05;21 Speaker 1 Stan Oh God. Diablo Dixon. Stan Okay. 00;01;06;00 - 00;01;08;06 Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah. His plan is to have an addiction. 00;01;10;17 - 00;01;21;12 Speaker 1 For anyone who is new to the podcast, you can find us on Instagram at O.G. Tap Podcast or Twitter is over Cheever's our website is O.G. Podcast FM, where you get this episode in every episode where we talk about what we're playing, what we're looking forward to it. 00;01;21;12 - 00;01;32;11 Speaker 1 A little bit of gaming news as well as you can check us out on Twitch TV's last O.G. podcast and join our Discord at Discord Dot Me Slash O.G. Podcast pretty much O.G. podcasting. Where is where we're at? 00;01;32;11 - 00;01;42;28 Speaker 1 So for those who don't know and who are who, because we haven't had a guest on in a hot minute who just want to tell us a little bit about yourself, where you're from in our pod and all that fun stuff. 00;01;43;09 - 00;01;59;02 Speaker 3 In our pod. In typical fashion, I believe. Like I've completely forgotten what our links are, but I do believe it's discord. I mean, at EIN or whatever. No different from us. So good luck if you want to get a hold of me and just hit me up through the, you know, the O.G. podcast, I'm always lurking in 00;01;59;02 - 00;02;14;20 Speaker 3 there giving back crap while he's streaming and talking shit while the guys are actually doing their own podcast. But yeah, so I'm from the alternate reality podcast with me and Hebrew Hammer, also known as Pharoah and mucking with a little bit about me. 00;02;15;04 - 00;02;36;15 Speaker 3 I'm, I think the best thing to say about me is I've been working in gaming for the last 22, 23 years through E a Warner Brothers was where I'm at now, but I played a lot of, you know, mobile games, console games, all sorts of stuff hooked up with these guys through a game that must not be 00;02;36;15 - 00;02;47;18 Speaker 3 named anymore. That that we don't exactly we don't we don't talk about know we don't talk about the other thing as well. Yeah, but yeah, that's pretty much the most important stuff about me. 00;02;48;14 - 00;03;02;29 Speaker 2 You're the best thing about that game that we all talk about anymore is that I got on Facebook the other day and there was like a wall of text from their company. Just like, dear players, we've got this new event that we just rolled out. 00;03;02;29 - 00;03;19;00 Speaker 2 You know, we had an IT problem where this person was being ranked at this position and this person is being ranked there. So to retract this, we've decided that in the next wave and I mean, the response was like beefy response, I'm saying, and I'm like, how does how do people still play this? 00;03;20;03 - 00;03;29;14 Speaker 1 So it's it's funny because Jeff also said he went and watched, you know, one of our friend of the pod valley fly and was still doing it and him in mobile game or just complaining about the game nonstop. 00;03;29;14 - 00;03;30;22 Speaker 1 So not much has changed. 00;03;30;23 - 00;03;32;05 Speaker 2 There that I was I was like. 00;03;32;14 - 00;03;32;29 Speaker 1 Now much has. 00;03;32;29 - 00;03;41;14 Speaker 2 Changed. I feel bad, man. Like, I don't know, dude, that's going to like, it's a video game, man. Like, you're supposed to have some semblance of fun with it, you know? I'm saying. 00;03;41;14 - 00;03;44;22 Speaker 3 Like, yeah, I remember when Valley Flying interviewed their new creative director. 00;03;46;06 - 00;03;47;29 Speaker 2 I don't know if I'm not equipped for that. 00;03;48;20 - 00;03;51;22 Speaker 3 Oh, no, no, no, no. This is Reece. He came over a couple of months ago. 00;03;52;10 - 00;03;54;19 Speaker 2 Oh, no, I saw. I don't. I don't know about it at all. 00;03;54;22 - 00;03;58;18 Speaker 3 Sean. Sean Dugan is their new creative director. Do you know where Sean Duggan came from? 00;03;58;27 - 00;03;59;15 Speaker 2 I do not. 00;04;00;07 - 00;04;04;18 Speaker 3 Warner Brothers games. Michael. Oh, so you know him? Yeah, I know him. 00;04;05;10 - 00;04;06;03 Speaker 2 Did you let him go? 00;04;07;13 - 00;04;08;09 Speaker 3 I don't know who said. 00;04;08;10 - 00;04;12;27 Speaker 2 You know what? I will go. We will. We will get into those semantics. That's not what we do here. 00;04;12;28 - 00;04;14;21 Speaker 1 Don't you kind towards myself? 00;04;14;21 - 00;04;20;06 Speaker 3 You know what? You know what I would say? I would say he took an opportunity and I think it's worked out well for both parties. 00;04;20;28 - 00;04;34;10 Speaker 2 Oh, nice. Nice. You know what's funny is I actually terminated my whatever NDA that I had with them. Like, you know, I don't know, whatever over a year ago, I'm still getting our assets from them. I've notified them about it. 00;04;34;19 - 00;04;46;20 Speaker 2 They don't care. So it's kind of funny. Remember during the whole thing that happened with the leaks or whatever and there was like this whole like elephant in the room situation where everybody's in the same way, discord, pointing fingers at each other. 00;04;46;20 - 00;04;57;27 Speaker 2 Yeah. And I can think about this like prime example. I still get all the insider info a year after and I've been asked twice to be taken off of it. Just funny, man. 00;04;57;28 - 00;05;01;08 Speaker 1 Like, it's I mean, I was kind of. I was in the testflight for the longest time. 00;05;01;17 - 00;05;03;06 Speaker 2 Yeah, it's just hilarious to me. 00;05;03;07 - 00;05;04;04 Speaker 1 I don't expired. 00;05;04;14 - 00;05;11;01 Speaker 2 Anyway. It's not three months, but we have so many better games to talk about and we got to hear about. Yeah, Mr. Stanley. 00;05;11;12 - 00;05;13;26 Speaker 1 Little bit of background about yourself. This I'm. 00;05;14;04 - 00;05;22;08 Speaker 4 I mean, I'm a friend of the pod two. I've been around for a couple of years now. The. Game that won't be named brought me into. I think. 00;05;23;00 - 00;05;23;07 Speaker 1 I. 00;05;23;25 - 00;05;43;06 Speaker 4 Played some other games with you guys along the way. Valor Legends just like Diablo most recently. Diablo's really like for me, like one of the, one of the big games, right? Like I've been playing since one. So like I've been playing these games for like over two decades now. 00;05;43;06 - 00;05;46;19 Speaker 4 And so it's just like, this is just perfect for me, so. 00;05;46;19 - 00;05;56;06 Speaker 1 Yeah. Stan, did you have any way to, like, increase your volume on your mic at all? I know you got it close, but I don't know if there's a volume switcher might in the system. If not, it's all right. 00;05;56;11 - 00;05;57;23 Speaker 1 We can. I can always boost in post. 00;05;58;08 - 00;06;02;06 Speaker 4 No, that's cool. I can. I can mess with it now. After the way, after my intro. 00;06;02;07 - 00;06;03;20 Speaker 3 No one switch streams mid way. 00;06;04;16 - 00;06;05;18 Speaker 1 To interrupt you. Yeah. 00;06;05;18 - 00;06;06;05 Speaker 4 No, no. 00;06;06;12 - 00;06;08;25 Speaker 2 We do love crossing streams here, but just not those. 00;06;10;11 - 00;06;21;08 Speaker 4 No, I think that's good for my enjoyment. Diablo's. Let's be real diablo's where I am on today and looking forward to talking about it. Yeah, thanks for having us, Austin again. 00;06;21;09 - 00;06;30;18 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. You've been on the pod before, so it's huge. So we've all, you know, everyone's been here. I don't remember what we were discussing last time. I think it was our legends last time. 00;06;30;19 - 00;06;35;12 Speaker 2 Yeah, last year Stan was here. We were talking about valor legends. And then that makes sense. The bird. 00;06;35;26 - 00;06;48;16 Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah. I stopped playing a while ago, too. Yeah, me too. Hey, wait. So the main topic of today is going to be Diablo Immortal. But before we get into Diablo Martell, we want to. We always talk about what we're playing. 00;06;48;16 - 00;07;03;16 Speaker 1 So I know that's the big topic in discussion for today, but we've also been kind of playing disliked in the in the past. So I know a lot of us are actually we're all pretty much in the same disliked clan or club, whatever it's called. 00;07;03;17 - 00;07;20;25 Speaker 1 Yeah club club. Yeah. Called the directive. Shout out to McGinn who's, you know, a podcaster with Hutch. And they do the disliked Directive Pod, which is a great podcast. By the way. If anyone who's interested in learning more about disliked, I will link it in the description below or the the podcast. 00;07;20;25 - 00;07;37;10 Speaker 1 Anyone wants to check that out? I'm a subscriber of it. They do some awesome tutorial videos on YouTube as well. Highly, highly, highly recommend checking them out if you're interested. Dislike because out of all the gotcha games of like the 5 to 5, stuff like that game has really taken over as like, you know, a fresh start 00;07;37;10 - 00;07;53;27 Speaker 1 for me is like it's a really interesting way of producing or showcasing a, you know, like a gotcha game in a five, five. That's something new. That's not something I've never really seen. I know that you guys probably played some years where I never played summers or in the past, so it's really interesting. 00;07;55;15 - 00;08;07;24 Speaker 1 It's interesting to see the new the new things. Although recently they did have that whole like, hey, we know our pool system is shit. So here is ten pools. And I think everybody in our town, our squad and our club. 00;08;08;00 - 00;08;10;23 Speaker 1 Yeah. All pulled, like, you know, the lowest common denominator. 00;08;10;23 - 00;08;12;09 Speaker 2 Yeah. So, yeah, yeah. 00;08;12;09 - 00;08;15;19 Speaker 3 Our pools are shit. You're shitty. Ten more shitty pools. Thanks. Yeah, yeah, exactly. 00;08;15;28 - 00;08;29;00 Speaker 2 No problem. And also to the to add on to it, this morning I was scrolling through Instagram and I saw an advertisement for this light and in the advertisement, dude, it's like the first comment was, I think I've seen better acting in porn. 00;08;29;00 - 00;08;41;14 Speaker 2 It was so bad. But like they the girl walks in, she's like, you know, Oh, I can't get past the stage in this dungeon. And your boyfriend has a link or whatever. What's the what's the five star guy with the wings? 00;08;41;14 - 00;08;42;18 Speaker 2 Do you remember? His name is. 00;08;42;18 - 00;08;44;08 Speaker 3 Helping you with dealing with the weird. 00;08;44;20 - 00;08;59;17 Speaker 2 Feelings. So, like, she's like, oh, your boyfriend has a nice early link. The guy could borrow it some time and she's like, I think I can. And she like, sends attacks. And then this, like, chat dude comes in a business suit and he's like, I don't really have five star Li Ling. 00;08;59;17 - 00;09;08;01 Speaker 2 I also have five star birdies and five star this and that, and everybody's like, Oh my God. And they're like, Dude, I know, I see this. 00;09;08;01 - 00;09;10;20 Speaker 3 She's you like, you haven't seen those ads on face. 00;09;11;01 - 00;09;22;18 Speaker 2 At all, like the rides for kingdoms ones. But this one dude, this one actually kind of made me lol. Like I laughed out loud at this one. Like I was like, holy shit, this is so bad. I mean, like, yeah, it was. 00;09;22;23 - 00;09;34;03 Speaker 2 But I was dying laughing because he goes, Yeah, not only that, I got it for I got three of them for my first ten pulls and I got four free and I was like, Get the fuck out of here with that shit. 00;09;34;09 - 00;09;46;24 Speaker 2 Like that is so awful. Like, that was, that was the icing on the cake for the, for the advertising for me. I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no way, no way. That's false advertising straight up like you. 00;09;46;25 - 00;09;49;25 Speaker 3 Like you can lie about the gameplay. Don't lie about the polls. Yeah, but. 00;09;49;25 - 00;10;03;20 Speaker 2 You know that that like if, if somebody were to come at them about it, there is in theory a chance that they can get a like 0.0000 1% chance they can do it. So like nobody could really, like, you know, you can test them for it. 00;10;03;20 - 00;10;18;19 Speaker 2 But yeah, like there is though so funny because because I mean the first one I think they give you at least one guaranteed and then the system after that is like 90 polls or something. Well, it was something ridiculous. 00;10;18;22 - 00;10;19;02 Speaker 3 Right. 00;10;19;15 - 00;10;21;11 Speaker 4 It's like I think it was, like. 00;10;21;12 - 00;10;22;14 Speaker 2 Took on the system. 00;10;22;20 - 00;10;27;04 Speaker 3 Yeah. The system's like, hey, the system is better than bad. What about elections? 00;10;27;12 - 00;10;28;07 Speaker 2 No, no, no, no. 00;10;28;18 - 00;10;30;01 Speaker 3 It was. No, no, no, no. 00;10;30;03 - 00;10;40;05 Speaker 2 Dan and I both played someone war in that game. Didn't even have the pity system and is literally a copycat of what this slide. Well, no, sorry. This site is a copycat of what someone or was. 00;10;40;06 - 00;10;43;09 Speaker 4 Yeah. I think someone who is more does have a pity system at this point, but. 00;10;43;17 - 00;10;57;04 Speaker 2 Well, okay, that's fair. I mean. Yeah, I mean, the game's been around for, what, like six or seven years, so this is great. I think it's I think it's probably one of the better mobile games come out in a while, like polished wise balance. 00;10;57;04 - 00;11;14;29 Speaker 2 Like it's pretty. One thing I think is weird is there's not a lot of attackers, like it's mostly supports and controllers, which is interesting, but there's only really like three or four good attackers. And ironically, I think most of them are four stars, which are harder to get than the five stars in a weird, strange way. 00;11;16;13 - 00;11;34;09 Speaker 2 Yeah. I mean, they they what they did one thing I think is better than some war or a couple of things better and like the, the access to ability upgrades for the characters is pretty streamlined. Like, like back when I only said this because my reference to this style of game because I've been playing mobile games for 00;11;34;09 - 00;11;51;10 Speaker 2 forever is someone war. And in that game the biggest pay wall was Devil Mountains, which were the things you had to use to level up your characters because getting duplicates was so, so hard to get come by in four stars and five stars, whereas in dislike they give you like ability, character upgrades like crazy. 00;11;51;10 - 00;12;01;02 Speaker 2 And I think that's so much better. And the only thing I think I want to complain about is that there's not enough fusion characters. I mean, you should be able to fuze more characters than just the two that they offer you for a reason. 00;12;01;10 - 00;12;14;26 Speaker 2 Gabrielle Although Gabrielle six like Gabrielle is like you must create this character. If you're like just starting out, it's like you're just stupid not to do it. But I mean, that's one unclear in the tower and you know, they're just about to roll out with the club stuff today. 00;12;14;27 - 00;12;16;27 Speaker 2 Right. Like the court battles, the battle. 00;12;17;02 - 00;12;22;00 Speaker 1 All the battles. Yeah. So if you haven't signed up, you're listening. Our client and our client live your phone. 00;12;22;05 - 00;12;34;14 Speaker 2 So I haven't. Oh, now. Hey, man, chill out. I got to get a sweat out of it. I got I got to sweat out and, like, you know, make sure all my teams have all the relics on them and everything, you know, can't, can't be acted like a scrub. 00;12;35;29 - 00;12;37;25 Speaker 3 I'll be scrubbing. Yeah, exactly. 00;12;39;26 - 00;12;42;03 Speaker 2 That's fine. I'm really going to be a scrub. I'm just acting tough. 00;12;42;20 - 00;12;43;10 Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah. 00;12;44;21 - 00;12;59;27 Speaker 1 So what do you guys think of, like, you know, where the game is going? I know personally, like, I mean, I'm really enjoying this light, but I've I've hit a hard wall of like. Yeah, and then I can I can do because I just don't have the characters that I need to progress. 00;12;59;27 - 00;13;18;21 Speaker 1 And I've, I've probably pulled, you know, probably 200 spins at this point. And I've just have not gotten like I, I still need Tiger Mom. I still need a few people. What do you guys think of the triple dimension thing where like you getting characters behind that I know stand essentially watching chat like no like I hate 00;13;18;21 - 00;13;21;00 Speaker 1 it. Ah I yeah. I mean it's. 00;13;21;10 - 00;13;32;02 Speaker 4 It's the same as it was in some countries or it's just that there's more characters now that you need to get from chat rooms or and in some countries where it was like you only had to get one of them because there wasn't. 00;13;32;29 - 00;13;36;17 Speaker 4 I forget what the system's called, the resonance or whatever it was. 00;13;36;17 - 00;13;38;19 Speaker 2 The same thing does ripples. 00;13;39;02 - 00;13;54;29 Speaker 4 Yeah, but I mean you only needed to get the what was it the light in the. But then you could pull it up from any other element worth of in a game. So it was like you only had to get one and like, oh, in this one, what is it? 00;13;55;05 - 00;14;03;27 Speaker 4 You got to get six, right? Yeah. You got to get six copies which is how many fucking things. I mean it's so, it's so it's it's like, it's. 00;14;04;06 - 00;14;13;05 Speaker 2 Like you're 40, 40 something ripple runs, right? And total, I would say, like it's got to be roughly around no more. Oh it's. 00;14;13;05 - 00;14;29;04 Speaker 1 Alright. It's, it's just like I'm fine with like having the ripples be there for like groups if you need to get like those additional things. But having people like released only through Ripple through chats or whatever I think is like, yeah, I don't know, it's dumb to me. 00;14;29;05 - 00;14;29;23 Speaker 1 It's, I mean that's. 00;14;30;10 - 00;14;43;24 Speaker 2 That is how it was in some war though like that. He what, what stands talking about is there was one character in particular, the white. It was like a white wolf and it was like the best one. And it had this amazing ability that you had to have in. 00;14;43;27 - 00;14;57;20 Speaker 2 It's like just one of the most essential units. So everybody went for it. But as you saying, you only need you to form one and then you could finish upgrading it by by dumping in the other elements of the same like wolf into it. 00;14;57;20 - 00;15;09;23 Speaker 2 Whereas in this game, you know, you don't have that same option to increase the resonance, which is like the changing the gold star on the character to purple because there and there's six in total when you make them six stars. 00;15;10;05 - 00;15;10;25 Speaker 2 But um. 00;15;11;14 - 00;15;30;09 Speaker 3 So the question I have though is like, is the issue, the fact that the characters are behind that ripple system or that they're only unlocked there, or the fact that the only way to access the ripple system is when you have to basically lurk in chat until somebody hopefully gets it released publicly. 00;15;30;09 - 00;15;44;20 Speaker 3 Or if you're in the clubs, then, you know, everybody in the club can announce, Hey, this is up. Like, I think if it was only in a club thing, a club element that might make it feel a little better and it might drive players to be in clubs more. 00;15;44;28 - 00;15;55;15 Speaker 3 But because you have that that aspect of, you know, the only way in some cases if you're not in a club or to get more opportunities is you have to sit in, chat and wait until somebody does it. 00;15;55;18 - 00;16;02;23 Speaker 3 And then, of course, there's the limited the super limited amount of people that can join in a single ripple event is like, Yeah. 00;16;03;18 - 00;16;19;29 Speaker 4 Yeah, that's what I was going to touch on. Is that the limited number? Like, That's crazy. You got it. You got you got to have I remember one one day like a couple of weeks ago, I was like, I got, I got this Korean API, I'm going because I got in second in one of the ripples and 00;16;19;29 - 00;16;27;03 Speaker 4 it was like the craziest thing. I had to have hit it like a split second. It got posted in chat. You got to like the shit out of your phone. 00;16;27;21 - 00;16;35;00 Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah, you got. Yeah, you got to be mad that bad tapping to get in and sometimes it's just not, not, it doesn't happen fast enough. 00;16;35;11 - 00;16;47;22 Speaker 1 Ain't nobody got time for that. No, you can't. You can't, you can't like sit there and like watch chat all day. I mean, there's been times where, like, I'm actually watching it comes in, I tap it like, quickly and like, I'm 4 seconds away from it opening and I'm like, it's full. 00;16;47;22 - 00;16;48;10 Speaker 1 I'm like, Yeah. 00;16;48;10 - 00;17;05;20 Speaker 2 30 people get in this so fast. Like, I think, I think that's the shitty part about it is I think the chats, like I think the announcement and the chat is either lagging or it repost the same person like to a different channel like it just I think the whole system is totally convoluted and messed up like 00;17;05;20 - 00;17;17;14 Speaker 2 it's just not good for poor execution. But this the way to solve it is like you were saying, just keep it in the clubs or I don't know, man, it's just at least pop up with a notification somehow. 00;17;17;14 - 00;17;26;11 Speaker 2 Some, I don't know. Like, that's not enough. Like seeing the comment in the chat is not enough. And even every time that I do see it, it doesn't matter. Like you're saying, I could be sitting here watching this. 00;17;26;14 - 00;17;33;29 Speaker 2 I you see you're watching the chat. I see pop up and be like and it's for rated or know it's been up for like 15 minutes already and and then it just made the announcement like. 00;17;33;29 - 00;17;44;03 Speaker 4 Yeah, you got to, you got to be watching chat like this. You can't watch chat like you sound like and then like that. That takes too long to get your arm there. You got to, like, have your finger on the screen. 00;17;44;04 - 00;17;53;11 Speaker 2 So, I don't know, man, I'm good, you know, I don't even know. I don't even know that I need either one of those characters. Like, that's the thing. So, but, you know, one thing we didn't say about, you know. 00;17;53;12 - 00;17;54;23 Speaker 3 You do you need them. 00;17;55;04 - 00;17;58;01 Speaker 2 Yeah. I mean, I already have Clara and I've already got. 00;17;58;26 - 00;18;03;17 Speaker 1 Your phone and you have her. I don't have any of the I'm still rocking shampoo and that's all like. 00;18;03;17 - 00;18;20;21 Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean unfortunately, like so full disclosure, like, most people would hate me. I got Tiger Mom and clear like on the first day. And then I've also pulled like two or three other ones and my teams are kind of building out to be pretty dope and I'm having a great time. 00;18;22;00 - 00;18;33;04 Speaker 2 I feel bad because the this, the shitty part about these kinds of games, right, is that there are people out there that are like really trying and you get stuck because you cannot pull that character. I know, man. 00;18;33;04 - 00;18;44;06 Speaker 2 And it's like the same thing happened to my best friend from when we play Summers where I was over 30 Natural five stars and he had to and this is over like the span of two years playing this game. 00;18;44;19 - 00;18;59;03 Speaker 2 It's infuriating, you know what I mean? And the same thing can happen in this kind of game and you could be spending money and it'll still be that way. And it's it's just it's the the unnecessary or the unnecessary the the the evil part of these kinds of games. 00;18;59;03 - 00;19;00;26 Speaker 2 That kind of sucks. But, you know. 00;19;01;05 - 00;19;09;16 Speaker 1 Yeah, that's why I refuse to spend money in this game because I think I spent like the $1 to get, like the original character and then like the monthly gym thing. 00;19;09;26 - 00;19;19;21 Speaker 2 The stamina packs are the only things that I. Would you recommend to anybody to spend money on? Because the stamina or even buying gems to replenish your stamina, that's the best value you're going to get out of the game. 00;19;19;21 - 00;19;37;19 Speaker 2 Buying gold records, they're awfully price. I think the price they're like two or $3 a record in theory. Like they're not it's not priced very well at all. And I'm surprised at that because and we didn't say this at the beginning, but dislike was made by the same team at RFK Arena and in RFK. 00;19;37;19 - 00;19;44;16 Speaker 2 Like, I never found the offers to be wildly predatory or like, you know, like, they're always. 00;19;44;16 - 00;19;45;13 Speaker 3 They're always pretty good. 00;19;45;22 - 00;19;52;04 Speaker 2 Yeah, but the gold record price in this game is blasphemous. Dude, it's terrible. 00;19;52;13 - 00;19;55;16 Speaker 3 It's like $2 per something is really bad. 00;19;55;17 - 00;20;10;10 Speaker 2 Like, I think you spend, like, I think it's like $15 for seven records. Like, if I'm not mistake, it's a weird number. Like, it's, it's an odd number and it doesn't make any sense to me considering you're going to put a times ten pull, but you're going to put a, a pack in the store that sells odd 00;20;10;10 - 00;20;25;10 Speaker 2 numbers of records like you're not even selling ten. You know, it's very it's very odd the way that they structured the whole thing, considering it's from a team that has their shit together, I would I would expect that kind of nonsense from other game studios, but not from Lilith. 00;20;25;19 - 00;20;39;25 Speaker 3 So that was also a little insight into the gaming industry in particular, like the team that developed the game. Yeah, content is, is not the team that usually dictates what the packs are, right. Oh that's a whole different team. 00;20;39;25 - 00;20;53;01 Speaker 3 That's a whole different. Yeah. That's your, your cousin, your product managers. I'm not quite so much, but it's a it's a so basically you've got your developers, you know, like the designers, engineers you are whatever, they're making the product, right? 00;20;53;01 - 00;21;09;02 Speaker 3 But then you've got your project managers or maybe your producers depends on how the team is, is, is constructed, right? What their roles are. They're the ones that are like, Oh, hey, we can typically sell this thing because this is what's most marketable based on what players are going to need as they progressed. 00;21;09;02 - 00;21;17;29 Speaker 3 And they're also going to examine as they played, if you get all those data things and stuff like that where they're like, Well, what is it that people need the most? What can we sell it for? And then they set the prices. 00;21;18;04 - 00;21;33;21 Speaker 3 And then sometimes you have your marketing team that also makes adjustments to what's available or what you're going to push based on, you know, research that they've done. As far as, you know, what is what they feel is going to get the most return in revenue. 00;21;33;22 - 00;21;47;04 Speaker 3 It's all about what is it called, ah, poo poo poo, I think is the acronym they use for it. I can't remember exactly what top of my head, but it's it's just about how much money per user you're getting now. 00;21;47;08 - 00;21;52;00 Speaker 1 So essentially me, Danny Perry from Mythic Quest is the guy. 00;21;52;06 - 00;21;57;02 Speaker 3 Yeah. Yep, that's exactly it. If you've seen Mythic Quest, Danny Purdy, that's the guy you should hate. 00;21;57;27 - 00;22;02;02 Speaker 1 Yeah. And that honestly, that show is phenomenal. No one's if no one. Why need you. 00;22;02;02 - 00;22;08;25 Speaker 2 Watch. It is hilarious. Yeah, I need it. Yeah. I don't have Apple TV, but there's a couple of shows that come out that I like. 00;22;09;04 - 00;22;11;08 Speaker 1 It's like super cheap. It's like five bucks a month. 00;22;11;16 - 00;22;13;06 Speaker 2 Whatever. Yeah. All right, decide on. 00;22;13;14 - 00;22;13;23 Speaker 1 You'll see. 00;22;13;24 - 00;22;14;19 Speaker 2 I'll look into. 00;22;14;19 - 00;22;18;16 Speaker 1 It in Diablo Immortal. But you won't spend $50 for. 00;22;19;03 - 00;22;22;01 Speaker 2 Priorities, man. Priorities. Okay, sign up. 00;22;22;01 - 00;22;33;22 Speaker 3 For a one month watch, binge it and then cancel also did you know that's that the actress is one of the testers is the voice of Aloy. Oh. Research. Ashley Birch. 00;22;34;11 - 00;22;36;12 Speaker 1 That's awesome. I did not know that. That's funny. 00;22;36;27 - 00;22;45;00 Speaker 3 Yeah, I didn't know it either until all of a sudden, like, somebody pointed that out to me was like, Oh my God, that is her. Okay. She also does Tiny Tina. 00;22;46;07 - 00;22;49;01 Speaker 4 Oh, that's why that name was familiar. Okay. 00;22;49;06 - 00;22;49;14 Speaker 3 Yeah. 00;22;49;15 - 00;23;07;08 Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah. Okay. What's that? Game is awesome. By the way. I've been playing Tiny Jordan's Wonderland. You know, up until Devil Mark Marks, I've been doing nothing but Diablo Moro lately. No, and it's. I really enjoy talking. He does one of the like I was I didn't realize how much I wanted a a borderlands fantasy game. 00;23;07;23 - 00;23;09;20 Speaker 1 It is amazing. 00;23;10;00 - 00;23;12;23 Speaker 3 Did you not play a salt on Dragon keep from what I did. 00;23;12;27 - 00;23;27;03 Speaker 1 But like I played it because like it was free on games past or something like that and I had an or it was like $5 or something like came it was um, well, I mean, I played it but I didn't, it didn't have the same, like, you know, assault on dragons keep you still like you didn't have 00;23;27;03 - 00;23;43;09 Speaker 1 like the magical elements of, you know, spells and everything. Like you're just essentially it's like the precursor to tiny team is Wonderland. Because of that, you know, you still have like your main abilities, whatever. But like, I like the overworld, how you like your little bobble head walking around, you know, stuff like that. 00;23;43;09 - 00;23;58;21 Speaker 1 So they do the math like it's really well done. And I'm, I hope they continue to push that out in accordance with, you know, the Borderlands teams because it's a lot of fun. And I'm just like, what? Those games are great because like I feel like I could just happen to them whenever I want and I'm not 00;23;58;21 - 00;24;09;03 Speaker 1 feel like I, you know, and stressed to finish the game in any point in time. Like, you know, I don't it's not a huge time suck because like you go and I do a dungeon that takes me 20 minutes and that's it. 00;24;09;17 - 00;24;20;02 Speaker 3 Yeah. Finish a quest. Hop back out. The only issue I would just I think the Borderlands Games a lot is, is the the loot comparison process where like, oh, this thing dropped, is it better or is it worse than what I actually have? 00;24;20;02 - 00;24;20;26 Speaker 3 I don't know. 00;24;21;02 - 00;24;32;21 Speaker 2 Yeah. I mean, yeah. You into a lot of weapons and you end up spending a lot of time sleeping like, man, you got a really good weapon and, and you don't want to use it. And, but it's better than the one you have. 00;24;32;24 - 00;24;33;25 Speaker 2 And I mean. 00;24;34;06 - 00;24;49;02 Speaker 3 Yeah. And then you also have the inventory problem early on, right. Because you have to go through the game to unlock more slots on your character to carry as well as more slots in your backpack. Like how much loot have I just left behind or broken down that I probably could have, you know, used or something like 00;24;49;02 - 00;25;02;00 Speaker 3 that along the way if I just had the ability to, you know, equip it rather than having to go, this sucks. I mean, choice is important, especially in a game like this, but like that limit so early on sucks. 00;25;02;10 - 00;25;19;15 Speaker 4 Yeah, it was interesting. They locked so many of the item slots behind, like, I think it was story progression or something. Mm hmm. Yeah, like, like level my girlfriend, like, and I played through it, and, like, we did, like, as much of the side content as we could while we were going through it. 00;25;19;25 - 00;25;26;23 Speaker 4 And so we got to like max level and we still had like a ring slot and a next slot or something we hadn't even unlocked yet. 00;25;26;23 - 00;25;28;11 Speaker 3 It was like, Oh yeah, that's what's. 00;25;28;11 - 00;25;29;13 Speaker 4 Going on here. 00;25;29;22 - 00;25;31;14 Speaker 3 But got to reach a certain point in the story. 00;25;32;01 - 00;25;47;00 Speaker 4 It was fun game like it lasted us a long time. Like I think it lasted us like two or three times more than Strangers of Paradise and like she'd never played F-Pace before. And so, like, this was her intro to it. 00;25;47;00 - 00;25;58;00 Speaker 4 Like, the fantasy part hooked her and like, really hooked her, like, she really got into it. So it was, it was a good experience. Like, she's still trying to get me to play it sometimes and I'm like, I've kind of. 00;25;58;07 - 00;26;01;16 Speaker 2 Downer I got so I'll lose out. 00;26;01;20 - 00;26;02;08 Speaker 4 Right. Yeah. 00;26;02;17 - 00;26;04;29 Speaker 3 Yeah. Hey, yo, does she have a phone? Yeah. 00;26;05;09 - 00;26;05;26 Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. 00;26;06;09 - 00;26;10;20 Speaker 4 Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. She's coming over later today. We're going to get her stands. 00;26;10;20 - 00;26;12;19 Speaker 2 Like, I got three phones just for her. 00;26;13;11 - 00;26;14;09 Speaker 4 I got to. 00;26;14;09 - 00;26;16;17 Speaker 2 Choose which one she wants. Yeah, yeah. 00;26;18;12 - 00;26;20;20 Speaker 3 Yeah. There you go. Fake. 00;26;21;01 - 00;26;34;19 Speaker 1 Amazing. All right. Well, even the her with that, that's dove into Diablo Immortal because I'm super stoked about this. Also speaking up for anyone who's listening, make sure you listen to the end because I have a little fun activity for us all afterwards. 00;26;34;19 - 00;26;35;20 Speaker 2 A fun activity? 00;26;35;22 - 00;26;35;26 Speaker 3 Oh. 00;26;36;11 - 00;26;36;20 Speaker 1 Yeah. 00;26;37;15 - 00;26;44;19 Speaker 3 No, you can't ask to out anybody on a platinum run. This is not a PlayStation game unless. 00;26;44;21 - 00;26;46;05 Speaker 4 Unless it's Diablo Immortal. 00;26;47;08 - 00;26;47;16 Speaker 1 Yeah. 00;26;48;19 - 00;26;53;29 Speaker 2 When are you going to take that challenge? Are you. Are you saying my challenge? I posed. Did you even see the one I post the other day? 00;26;53;29 - 00;26;58;22 Speaker 1 The retro Elden ring? What is that even like? What platform is that even on game boy. 00;26;59;08 - 00;26;59;18 Speaker 3 Oh. 00;27;00;03 - 00;27;19;02 Speaker 2 Boy. Yeah, they made it so like yeah they made a well people making makes of Souls Games is like really popular now. So ever since the person did the Bloodborne ones and yeah so they did an Elden ring one on legitimately Gameboy Color. 00;27;20;22 - 00;27;35;27 Speaker 1 All right well whatever I'll figure it out. I mean, that's neat. I'll look at it. I mean, I guess I get emulated on on everything. I'm kidding. So we're not before actual is the war against Diablo Immortal? Is there anything coming out you guys are really excited about or something? 00;27;35;27 - 00;27;47;22 Speaker 1 It's come out recently. The only reason why I asked is because I literally it's also been pop up my steam notifications and someone's playing V rising and I really want to play Be Rising, but I got too many other games to play and also like I'm going to wait for it to go on sale. 00;27;47;22 - 00;27;52;21 Speaker 1 I know it's only $20, but I'm going to wait till it hits like, you know, 14 bucks or something like that. And I'll play it. 00;27;53;08 - 00;28;07;21 Speaker 2 I'm playing everything I want to play right now. I have like five games I'm playing legitimately. I can't take anything else. I'm playing World of Warcraft despite Guardians of Claudia. Diablo Immortal legal legends like I'm. 00;28;08;11 - 00;28;09;22 Speaker 1 You're tapped out and you're free. 00;28;13;07 - 00;28;14;18 Speaker 3 Sounds like you got four. 00;28;15;11 - 00;28;21;03 Speaker 2 Yeah, I know I do. I'm having a lot of fun right now. It's a good, good time to be a gamer, in my opinion. 00;28;21;15 - 00;28;24;00 Speaker 1 All right, you stand. You got anything coming out that you're looking forward to? 00;28;24;21 - 00;28;31;08 Speaker 4 I mean, this the sonic game meets, and I've been talking about it. Dischord looks fantastic. Like, yeah. 00;28;31;08 - 00;28;32;11 Speaker 2 Yeah. Wow. 00;28;32;11 - 00;28;41;09 Speaker 4 Like, I don't think I would have ever thought I was saying, like, a sonic game is one of the best looking games I've ever seen. But, like, here we are because holy shit, that game looks awesome. 00;28;41;27 - 00;28;50;22 Speaker 2 And it looks better than some of the Mario games it's been coming out. I mean. Well, I mean, it's just because it's on a different platform, right? I mean, obviously they're going to they're going to what are they going to push it on PlayStation or Xbox? 00;28;51;24 - 00;28;52;19 Speaker 2 Sonic. Did you say. 00;28;53;00 - 00;28;53;25 Speaker 4 PlayStation? 00;28;54;02 - 00;29;01;18 Speaker 3 No, both PlayStation. Xbox. I think it's I don't think it's PC, but I think it's all consoles. Sega is multi console now, so. 00;29;01;21 - 00;29;09;08 Speaker 4 Okay. Okay. I saw there's a new star motion game that got announced. I've been I. 00;29;09;16 - 00;29;10;06 Speaker 1 Was sure that. 00;29;10;11 - 00;29;22;10 Speaker 4 I yes. I played the second one way back on PC on or PS2 or whatever like that. That was a fantastic game. And then like I have played any of them since and like to do what looks awesome. 00;29;22;11 - 00;29;29;03 Speaker 4 And so I want to give that a try. And then like we just had the well, is it the place you. 00;29;29;06 - 00;29;30;12 Speaker 2 See the state of play? How am I. 00;29;30;23 - 00;29;31;17 Speaker 4 Going to buy Dennis. 00;29;32;25 - 00;29;33;26 Speaker 2 Presley or I mean. 00;29;34;15 - 00;29;35;21 Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. 00;29;35;25 - 00;29;38;00 Speaker 3 Oh, yeah. You're in on that one too. 00;29;38;13 - 00;29;50;14 Speaker 2 I can't wait for it. I am sad that it's I was watching it and it's like March 6th or whatever it was, 20, 23. I'm like, Oh, wait, usually a full year away like that. 00;29;50;20 - 00;29;55;02 Speaker 3 I don't watch those things. The only I know attention to them is because of the podcast, right? 00;29;55;03 - 00;29;55;14 Speaker 2 I know. 00;29;55;14 - 00;29;57;21 Speaker 3 I don't care. I think it's coming out right now. Yeah. 00;29;57;28 - 00;29;59;14 Speaker 2 I mean, they just haven't looked. 00;29;59;14 - 00;30;11;03 Speaker 1 I haven't looked at that. I didn't watch that at all. I wanted to watch it. I just like I was in the middle. It was it's been a long it's been a long week for for work because I we have a I'm headed to L.A. tomorrow to go for a senior year. 00;30;12;10 - 00;30;15;01 Speaker 1 So it's just like I haven't had any time to look into anything. So. 00;30;15;06 - 00;30;19;11 Speaker 2 Oh, games that I'm excited about straight. You basically run. 00;30;19;11 - 00;30;20;26 Speaker 3 Around. Oh, yeah. As a kid. 00;30;20;26 - 00;30;27;07 Speaker 2 I'm 100% be buying that. Are you kidding me? I have got, like, definitely trying that out. 00;30;29;22 - 00;30;33;29 Speaker 4 What about? What else? What about what about that Ninja Turtles bundle thing that's coming out? 00;30;34;20 - 00;30;40;11 Speaker 2 Oh, I already I have it reserved. I mean, whenever it finally comes out, I'm going to get it. I mean, yeah, they they keep pushing it back. 00;30;40;11 - 00;30;41;00 Speaker 4 Apparently. 00;30;41;26 - 00;30;46;08 Speaker 3 That's all that. That's all the existing Ninja Turtles games, right? Supposedly. 00;30;46;16 - 00;30;47;13 Speaker 4 Yeah. Including the. 00;30;47;13 - 00;30;48;16 Speaker 1 Remasters of fighting. 00;30;48;16 - 00;30;51;20 Speaker 4 Games you've never heard of or seen. Yeah. Yeah, like that's. 00;30;52;02 - 00;31;00;12 Speaker 3 Oh, I probably heard and seen of them. Might, might have played one or two here and there. Give it a shot and be like, nope, not playing. This is garbage. 00;31;02;00 - 00;31;21;26 Speaker 2 Yeah. The also I'm like. I mean, I'm going to I guess they did the trailer for Fantastic 16 and I'm going to be buying it, but I'm not hyped about it at all because I am afraid that the comment system is like 15 and if anybody knows me, they know I was ten for that combat system. 00;31;22;07 - 00;31;28;28 Speaker 2 So but I'm going to go into it with open mind. I will play it. If it sucks, I will not play it just like I didn't play 15. 00;31;28;28 - 00;31;31;06 Speaker 1 But I'm like I like 15. But I was just me. 00;31;31;13 - 00;31;44;09 Speaker 2 No man. A lot of people like to see my best friend Michael. Like, the thing that got me was like the I don't like, okay. So I'm like, I'm not really like, a fan of. Uh, those kinds of games, you got to like mash buttons and get like combos. 00;31;44;10 - 00;31;57;20 Speaker 2 Then, you know, like the higher combos you get, like, you get a like, experience increase and then it like, you know, makes you just want to become like a button mashing crazy person. And it's like, that's cool. If, like, that's, you're kind of game like by all means. 00;31;57;20 - 00;32;12;16 Speaker 2 But I've played every single final fantasy game ever for the most part, and that is to me was not what a game was, but. And I understand they got to evolve. And I understand that like they got to come out with something fresh because that is what it is. 00;32;12;16 - 00;32;20;06 Speaker 2 But now I would have been perfectly fine if it was just the normal ass turn based RPG game. I would have bought it ten times over, but you know. 00;32;20;18 - 00;32;34;09 Speaker 4 Not anyways. Did you see that they're going to remaster nine next like that out? Yes. Yeah. Super hyped. Like I'm more excited about that than seven, I think. But I'm also I'm all seven. I'm very like you're talking about with 16. 00;32;34;09 - 00;32;45;19 Speaker 4 I'm also worried about the combat. If they do the combat for nine remastered like seven like seven remastered was better combat than 15. But was it by that much like. No, no, they. 00;32;45;26 - 00;32;47;22 Speaker 1 Continue the Strangers of Paradise. 00;32;48;07 - 00;32;54;17 Speaker 4 Yeah, that was that was awesome. Yeah. But that also wasn't the same team that made the Final Fantasy Z there, was it. 00;32;54;18 - 00;33;06;13 Speaker 2 Yeah. No, no, no, unfortunately not. But I mean, it was great. I thought it was honestly, I remember sitting there playing that and thinking to myself like, I wish this is what 15 was or even like the next game. 00;33;06;13 - 00;33;25;06 Speaker 2 Like, I hope this is what they do is something similar to this because it was good, like really, really good. You weren't just button mashing like you actually had like the ability to make decisions on like what you were doing and based on the situation and what your enemies weaknesses were, you could do things on the fly 00;33;25;06 - 00;33;38;04 Speaker 2 . Whereas like what I've seen 15 I was just like, Oh, you fly off this and then do this like zip line attack here. And then I got to all then I got to get this and then you got to like switch over to this guy and you got to knuckle up in the air, and then you got 00;33;38;04 - 00;33;45;20 Speaker 2 to go back over here, and then you got to fly over here. And I'm like, Fuck that, I'm big, dude. I don't want to do this. I want to do this. 00;33;45;28 - 00;33;49;06 Speaker 4 Well, I think shit about like, why would you like. 00;33;49;24 - 00;33;50;06 Speaker 2 Serious. 00;33;50;21 - 00;33;52;09 Speaker 4 Shit? Like, am I Spider-Man. 00;33;52;09 - 00;34;07;23 Speaker 2 Or what the fuck? I honestly do. Like, I don't mean to sound like misogynistic or anything like that, but like when my best friend's girlfriend was getting further in the game faster than me, and like, she's not like a true gamer, like I am, I started to get really pissed off and like, then she was like getting 00;34;07;23 - 00;34;20;11 Speaker 2 like massive combos. And I'm like, this is the person that casts her boyfriend to beat bosses in, like, the Legend of Zelda games for her. Like, and I'm and I'm like, not able to do this. And, like, it really broke my ego as a gamer. 00;34;20;11 - 00;34;32;00 Speaker 2 And like, I just was like, I'm so over this game, like, I'm not doing it. So anyways, with that being said, I hope they take the Stranger Paradise route. That would be fantastic. Instead of the zip lining route. 00;34;32;27 - 00;34;33;19 Speaker 1 Knows it will see. 00;34;33;25 - 00;34;39;24 Speaker 4 Yeah I don't want to this these if you don't want to see visa finding that's all I'm going to say. 00;34;40;12 - 00;34;40;25 Speaker 2 Yeah. 00;34;40;28 - 00;34;47;12 Speaker 1 Yeah, that'll be hilarious. All right, so let's hop into the discussion, the topic of the afternoon. 00;34;47;21 - 00;34;49;10 Speaker 3 I don't know what I'm excited for. 00;34;49;11 - 00;34;50;02 Speaker 1 Oh, okay. 00;34;50;02 - 00;34;50;16 Speaker 2 Yeah. No. 00;34;50;24 - 00;34;52;04 Speaker 1 No, you don't. Oh, you don't? 00;34;52;20 - 00;35;10;15 Speaker 3 No, I'm just. I'm just going to do a bunch of shameless plugging for my own company, but, yeah, please do. Please do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So we just finished a alpha for the multiverse is brawler like TV two mostly fighting games so I'm super excited about the open beta coming for that in July because that was 00;35;10;15 - 00;35;12;12 Speaker 3 a lot of fun. If you're a fan of Smash Brothers. 00;35;13;01 - 00;35;18;13 Speaker 2 Oh, geez, now Warner Brothers looks fine. Oh, yeah, that was super good. 00;35;18;15 - 00;35;21;17 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Shaggy, go super saying yes, yes. 00;35;21;17 - 00;35;25;23 Speaker 2 Yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah. It looks so good because she's. 00;35;25;23 - 00;35;26;22 Speaker 4 Not a super man. 00;35;27;04 - 00;35;33;13 Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Bugs Bunny gets, like, jacked in the job was like, okay. I was like, what is this? 00;35;33;21 - 00;35;41;05 Speaker 3 Yeah, it's good. It's fun. Aside, if you like Smash Brothers or that type of platform brawler, check it out. Like, we've got those. I don't know. Coming up. Try it. 00;35;41;05 - 00;35;41;13 Speaker 4 Out. 00;35;41;14 - 00;35;47;18 Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, come on, dude. Like, Shaggy went super saying dude. I mean, you had me at that. 00;35;48;24 - 00;36;03;08 Speaker 3 He's a shaggy is a good character in the game that goes super same thing. Good pretty fun, obviously. Then we've got our entire other slate of stuff that got pushed back from like 2020 to 2021, 2022. Gotham Knights being the first one I think is probably going to come since. 00;36;03;11 - 00;36;18;00 Speaker 3 Yeah, but yeah, that one. And then one of the games we talked about on the pod on Friday night was the announcement of the new Pokemon mainline games that are following in the similar kind of playstyle as our case. 00;36;18;22 - 00;36;25;01 Speaker 3 I'm like, Hmm, I might have to buy some more Pokémon or some my mainline games, which I have never purchased in my life. 00;36;25;28 - 00;36;26;20 Speaker 2 Why is that? 00;36;27;14 - 00;36;32;05 Speaker 3 Because I'm older than most people who are fans of Pokemon. Yeah, yeah. But you did. 00;36;32;05 - 00;36;39;10 Speaker 2 It so late so you didn't try like the actually original blue and yellow and they were red blue. 00;36;39;22 - 00;36;44;04 Speaker 3 Get to remember when Pokémon came out, I was of the age where, like, this is for kids, man. 00;36;44;08 - 00;36;53;17 Speaker 2 Yeah. Okay. So I was I think he's saying that I think I was like 12 when I played blue, so that would make sense. You were probably in your early twenties, right at that. 00;36;53;17 - 00;37;02;22 Speaker 3 Point, something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. So then? So then it was just like, I'm not playing Pokémon. And it wasn't until Pokémon Go where I was like, Wait a minute, there's something with this Pokémon thing. 00;37;02;27 - 00;37;03;24 Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah. 00;37;04;03 - 00;37;16;00 Speaker 3 And, and then arcs and then unite and know, like, okay, maybe I'll have to start paying a little bit more attention. Now, it might cost my kids, you know, I have kids now, so they play Pokémon Do. So you got to speak their language. 00;37;16;11 - 00;37;16;26 Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah. 00;37;17;01 - 00;37;17;10 Speaker 1 All right. 00;37;17;10 - 00;37;18;23 Speaker 2 And the trading card game, too. 00;37;19;19 - 00;37;29;21 Speaker 3 Yeah, well, I'm not getting in the trading card game. There's one more thing that that Jeff and I talked about earlier, and that's next July instead of playing football comes back all. 00;37;30;27 - 00;37;33;28 Speaker 1 Oh, yes. Finally coming back, right? Yep, yep, yep, yep. 00;37;33;28 - 00;37;35;28 Speaker 2 It's been since 2014 actually. 00;37;36;13 - 00;37;50;00 Speaker 1 Yeah. I was going to say there's been I mean just to double click on the the Gotham Knights thing. What's your take on that? Huge. Because I have you know, it looks awesome. But like at the same time, I'm like, I don't know. 00;37;50;01 - 00;37;52;05 Speaker 1 I don't I don't know. Like, it looks. 00;37;54;24 - 00;37;57;27 Speaker 3 I'm in an unfortunate position of I can't talk about it because I. 00;37;57;28 - 00;38;03;08 Speaker 1 I bet. But just like I'm just I'm I have I have high hopes for it. I have high hopes for it. 00;38;03;08 - 00;38;10;22 Speaker 3 So I'm I'm hopeful, you know, so I can't go into details, but I'm I'm hopeful. 00;38;10;25 - 00;38;15;26 Speaker 2 So you get to play these games yourself, like like yeah. Before this. I mean, I keep pretty cool. 00;38;15;26 - 00;38;29;25 Speaker 3 Well, I mean, they, they sometimes they'll send out like company wide play tests and things like. Right. Like I saw multiverses months ago. Right. Right. And so yeah. And, and every single like get the exactly. Perks of the job. 00;38;30;04 - 00;38;39;00 Speaker 3 If I get the opportunity to add people in, I'll try and send out some codes here and there depending on like who I know and what their most favorite franchises are. 00;38;40;07 - 00;38;42;15 Speaker 2 And job of the day. Man, you got to be careful. Yeah. 00;38;43;06 - 00;38;57;11 Speaker 3 One of the things. I mean, it's what it is. It's. Exactly, exactly. And it's like, I need to make sure, like, if I give this to somebody, they're not going to violate the NDA for fun benefit. And because that'll screw me over and it probably won't screw me over, but like I don't wanna looks at risk. 00;38;57;13 - 00;38;58;16 Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah. You just look down. 00;38;58;27 - 00;39;10;01 Speaker 2 Yeah. It's, it's a bad, it's a bad tone for you and like the conversation, like, how do you want to give the codes, coach this game? Like, Oh, man, now he let that asshole in here that was just like messing shit up. 00;39;10;01 - 00;39;21;13 Speaker 3 And I don't want to go that deep because, like, there's so many people that they get involved. The company is so big that they probably wouldn't drill that far down unless it was somebody like a, you know, game I was working on in the studio that I was in, maybe. 00;39;21;18 - 00;39;32;20 Speaker 3 But even then, I think given the position, I still wouldn't be like just throwing codes out there to wherever, whoever, like as much as I, you know, like the people that listen to the podcast and everything like that. 00;39;32;20 - 00;39;43;21 Speaker 3 I'm not throwing the codes out there because of that theme. Same thing. I need to keep this close to the vest because I don't want to be that guy that let his kids take off or his kids took a picture of the console that wasn't released. 00;39;43;28 - 00;39;59;25 Speaker 3 He didn't know about it and then got fired because they shared it online. Yeah, right. That's something I don't want to happen to me. And one other one other aspect of being in the industry is I get because I know people at other companies, sometimes I can get access to games before they come out there. 00;40;00;00 - 00;40;13;09 Speaker 3 So like similarly I, you know, if I get stuff like he drew once anything from Riot, right? Oh yeah. It's from right. Yeah. My friends at right hook me up and I'll you know if I if I could add him to I told him I'm priority. 00;40;13;17 - 00;40;17;20 Speaker 3 If only one code comes to me, you get nothing more than one. 00;40;17;25 - 00;40;27;05 Speaker 1 My cousin's a game director at Riot and I don't even get stuff. Yeah, he's family and stuff, so. Oh, Hebrew. Like committed pro. 00;40;27;13 - 00;40;27;23 Speaker 3 Come on. 00;40;28;25 - 00;40;45;01 Speaker 2 Apparently, one of the things that he said about Riot is that I think they keep things very internal in that regard. And like percent. Yeah, that's like I think probably one of the perks of working at the company is they like are very adamant about playing the games that everybody else is working on. 00;40;45;01 - 00;40;57;02 Speaker 2 So you get the other insight of developers that are all within the same riot team. So it kind of like cultivates a more cohesive environment. And I was like, it's a dope idea. I. 00;40;57;10 - 00;41;12;20 Speaker 3 I, it's the level of ownership that everybody in the project, in the company shares a vision and is able to keep moving towards that vision and supporting one another. Too many times you get these studios or games, developing studios or companies that have multiple projects where it's adversarial. 00;41;13;03 - 00;41;15;07 Speaker 3 I'm looking at you where. 00;41;15;15 - 00;41;19;04 Speaker 2 They they they pit one team against another to say, like it better. 00;41;19;10 - 00;41;27;09 Speaker 3 It's incentivized. Whoever does the best then gets more of a bonus so that you're not collaborating. And that's bad for the company overall. 00;41;27;09 - 00;41;29;05 Speaker 2 That's very corporate and small minded. 00;41;29;19 - 00;41;32;10 Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah, exactly. All right. That's just. 00;41;32;15 - 00;41;32;24 Speaker 2 Yeah. 00;41;33;16 - 00;41;42;01 Speaker 1 All right. Diablo, diablo. Immoral. I'll let stand kick it off on this one because he hasn't had much of a chance to talk about stuff. 00;41;42;01 - 00;41;43;26 Speaker 2 But who can I hijack the conversation? 00;41;44;07 - 00;41;44;20 Speaker 3 Yes. 00;41;45;01 - 00;42;00;08 Speaker 1 It happens, everybody. It's okay. It's fine. But let's talk. Dan, give us your initial impressions of Diablo because you you're already so in the area, like Paragon like 141. Like Paragon like six. 00;42;00;08 - 00;42;01;20 Speaker 4 Six, seven or something. 00;42;01;23 - 00;42;09;04 Speaker 1 What, what's your what's your hot take on how, how this compares to like all the other Diablo Games that are out there. 00;42;09;21 - 00;42;34;14 Speaker 4 Um, so I think, you know, coming in like, you know, we all, we all know how, how the initial like unveiling of the game went and stuff and it was like the worst, the worst thing that's maybe happened and I don't know how long like in terms of gaming announcements, but um, so I think over the years 00;42;34;14 - 00;42;54;06 Speaker 4 I haven't had much expectations, but like the timing's working out and I don't know if it was because of COVID or what, but like the timing is working out great for it to like be like a gap bridge or between like two hour and for like in terms of like for anybody who's once like plays the entire 00;42;54;09 - 00;43;04;26 Speaker 4 . Series. And so, like, for me, that's working out perfectly because like I, you know, I've played to our butt and stuff. I'm not trying to platinum it like you fast, but I mean. 00;43;04;26 - 00;43;06;03 Speaker 1 It's a long, it's a long process. 00;43;06;04 - 00;43;27;01 Speaker 4 Yeah. Like, and, and I'm so like messing around with like three each season a bit depending on what the seasonal stuff is and, and that's fun. But like it's so, it's so much just because the gameplay is fun, like the actual activities, it's like do some regular ups now, do some greater gives you some regular ups now 00;43;27;01 - 00;43;45;23 Speaker 4 , do some greater ups. And it's like so stupidly dumbed down and like simplistic that like it's I think most, if not everybody that like has been playing three like consistently like immortal is just a breath of fresh air because there's just so many more things to do. 00;43;46;00 - 00;44;07;06 Speaker 4 There's so many more things that you have to do to, like, progress to make your character stronger. Um, I mean, so like, in terms of, like the systems involved in Immortal, like, I think, I think there's so many different activities and stuff in the game and this is just on launch like even compared to three, I think 00;44;07;06 - 00;44;12;10 Speaker 4 like in terms of depth, this is, this is the best diablo we've seen like easily. 00;44;12;28 - 00;44;13;24 Speaker 2 In the raids yet. 00;44;15;00 - 00;44;23;00 Speaker 4 I mean there's that, that's that one that we had to do. Well, that's all. All. Yeah. Which, which is fun. Have you done that one yet? 00;44;23;28 - 00;44;27;00 Speaker 2 No, no, no. I unlocked it last night, but I haven't done it. 00;44;27;00 - 00;44;40;23 Speaker 4 Yet, so maybe we can get you in that today or tomorrow or something. And that's yeah. I think that's a really good sneak preview. I hope it is to like future stuff we're going to get. I know there's a second raid that I think might be in the game now. 00;44;40;23 - 00;44;51;10 Speaker 4 I'm not sure. I haven't seen anybody. I know there's like like a thing in the battle pass for completing it for like quests or something. Yeah. 00;44;51;10 - 00;44;53;14 Speaker 1 The character starts with a V or something like that. Yeah. 00;44;53;21 - 00;45;06;06 Speaker 4 Something different on. It's a longer name I think, but I mean someone, someone in Discord and it might have even been one of you guys I don't remember was like surprised when we did when we did that fight for them yesterday. 00;45;06;06 - 00;45;19;11 Speaker 4 BASH And they were like, I thought it was going to be like an MMO, right? Like I thought it was going to be more than just a fight. So, I mean, there's probably demand for that. Like it would be cool to see if they put like an actual like MMO raid in there where we have to clear 00;45;19;11 - 00;45;25;14 Speaker 4 through some trash, maybe fight a boss or two. And then like before we get to like the main, like the fight. 00;45;25;14 - 00;45;26;24 Speaker 2 That's kind of what the dungeons are like. 00;45;26;24 - 00;45;28;02 Speaker 1 So yeah, yeah. 00;45;28;27 - 00;45;36;14 Speaker 3 Well, sexual time is the thing that you have to keep track of. Like how much, how long do they want you to dedicate to each play session, right? 00;45;36;22 - 00;45;49;27 Speaker 4 Yeah. But I mean, like, they, they could add they could add like a 30 minute raid or something. And like, I don't think that would detract from from it at all because there's, there's already stuff in the game that takes less time to. 00;45;49;28 - 00;46;03;17 Speaker 4 So players of options like an older rift you could go in and do and they would take that like both of the rifts in the game I think have ten minute timer don't they. So I mean that's that's perfect for people who just don't have as much time to play. 00;46;04;16 - 00;46;17;03 Speaker 3 So yeah, but I think if you get to a point where like you're going to put that much time into something, you're going to have high level rewards behind it. And then players who don't have that time are going to be frustrated because they don't have that time. 00;46;17;14 - 00;46;27;03 Speaker 3 I get I like the I mean, if I if I was in a similar situation where it was like, but I want to play more. I want to play longer. I want to do something that's bigger. Right. You know, that's great. 00;46;27;06 - 00;46;45;17 Speaker 3 Well, I think what you I think what might work is if you do a thing like that and then there's a goal that you can get either through doing that, that dungeon, or maybe it takes longer through several shorter sessions or something, and then both players can have an equal opportunity at the thing. 00;46;45;17 - 00;46;51;20 Speaker 3 It's just like this team, this team, they have a time they can go to a time. Is what really is the biggest currency right now, right? 00;46;52;00 - 00;46;58;18 Speaker 4 Yeah. Maybe they could even make it available via PvP too. That would give players another option as well. 00;46;59;04 - 00;47;11;03 Speaker 1 Yeah. I'm curious to see what the more of that aspect of the game is going to be like, the whole shadow versus morals, because we haven't really seen anything of that yet. I mean, it's literally been only out for like, you know, six days at this point. 00;47;11;17 - 00;47;16;15 Speaker 1 So it's been six days. Yeah. The 31st is when it launched a day early. 00;47;16;24 - 00;47;17;21 Speaker 3 That's right. Yeah. 00;47;17;21 - 00;47;18;09 Speaker 1 No, I lost on. 00;47;18;09 - 00;47;21;18 Speaker 3 The first two days was it was the first and the 31st. 00;47;21;18 - 00;47;37;05 Speaker 1 Yeah. Because it's just about the second and it came. So it's been out five days. Yeah. But yeah. So I'm curious to see what that the PvP aspect of the, the actual like battleground portion of it is very much like overwatch my opinion and how it like you have to you're pitted against like you have to like 00;47;37;06 - 00;47;50;08 Speaker 1 attack these two or three points. Once you take all those points down, then you have to escort like someone to like the crystal and they need to, you know, kill the crystal or whatever. So it's, it's, it's, it's very reminiscent, like what people are used to. 00;47;51;01 - 00;48;06;07 Speaker 1 But I'm curious to see if, like, you know, how that evolves. And I and I really can see that being a bottleneck for a lot of people for pay to win it's people could just dominate. Yeah with with everything but there really isn't a ton of things that you can buy that makes a pay to win because 00;48;06;07 - 00;48;11;21 Speaker 1 right now it's like you can get a battle pass, which I finally broke down, bought battle pass yesterday. I was waiting. 00;48;11;21 - 00;48;12;13 Speaker 2 I was waiting for. 00;48;12;14 - 00;48;14;03 Speaker 1 My mobile 19 on the battle pass. 00;48;14;24 - 00;48;18;19 Speaker 2 And it's you get a lot of good stuff from it, man. It's a really good stuff. 00;48;18;19 - 00;48;31;28 Speaker 1 And it's like ten bucks and it's fine. I mean, like, look, I've, I've, I've spent a lot of money on a lot of games I've never played in the past. So it's just like I don't find it too egregious to be like, okay, fine, whatever. 00;48;32;15 - 00;48;42;06 Speaker 1 I'll spend $10 on a battle pass and then ships like, Oh, I got these $5 offers, I'm going to buy all these $5, like, and I'm like, now he's got me thinking about all the $5 offers now, are they. 00;48;42;13 - 00;49;01;05 Speaker 2 Yeah, but those are like one time offers. I'm telling you, the ones that are bad buy are the ones I was looking at yesterday when the three of us were sitting there talking and it's like 25 bucks for three legendary crests and a legendary gem and then like 300 of the like whatever the in-game currency is so 00;49;01;05 - 00;49;17;27 Speaker 2 awful value and then you buy, then you spend like 12 or 15 bucks more and all you get is one additional legendary gem. So, I mean, I've seen a lot of I mean, you know, I don't know if you've any watch asmongold or you know I've seen like his over the top dramatic videos about the like you 00;49;17;27 - 00;49;31;04 Speaker 2 know. Terrible offers and predatory ness of the game and all that crap. But, you know, they're saying that it's like, you know, one of the worst pay to win games in the history of pay to in gaming. And like, I just don't feel that way. 00;49;31;04 - 00;49;49;06 Speaker 2 I don't feel that way. I don't know, like, maybe I just don't care that much about being, like, the number one in the world. And, like, I really sincerely feel like, like some of these people have, like, mental illnesses, and it's like it's become a slippery slope because it's not about gaming. 00;49;49;06 - 00;50;00;22 Speaker 2 It's about like a guy number one. Oh, it's like, okay, that's cool when you're talking about skill, but like, that just means you just spent more money than everybody else. Like, that's not, like, that big of a deal, right? 00;50;01;05 - 00;50;18;16 Speaker 2 Like, but what are they spending their money on is my question. And I think it's legendary gems. Yeah. Like it's all circling around the legendary gems, which is crazy to me that they hold that much value because I'm, I'm still like only 40 and I have a bunch of legendary gems. 00;50;18;16 - 00;50;21;24 Speaker 2 But like, do you guys think that, like, they're that powerful? I mean. 00;50;21;24 - 00;50;22;13 Speaker 1 Yes. 00;50;22;13 - 00;50;23;17 Speaker 3 Yeah, they can be. Yeah. 00;50;24;00 - 00;50;47;19 Speaker 1 And they can essentially change exactly how things function like legendary gear, but legendary gems is like it's legendary. B To be honest, it really does changed. Sorry for the bad pun, but it really does change. Like how the style of the game and your gameplay functions like it's pretty, it's wild to see that, that aspect of it 00;50;47;19 - 00;50;59;27 Speaker 1 because like I'm just going through like different builds and whatnot for my crusader and you know, I've got, yeah, I have a, I have a solo build and then I have a group build and a group build is fucking awesome. 00;50;59;27 - 00;51;19;27 Speaker 1 Like we take down boxes in like 5 seconds with my group build because you're just doing like you're doing holy banner, which essentially makes their own crit 100% of the time for 10 seconds or 5 seconds. And you just can really just like hammer home a lot of crazy offense, but like there's a lot of things like 00;51;19;27 - 00;51;34;27 Speaker 1 , you know, if you have this legendary gentleman there, it like changes your, you know, adds like additional multipliers. It adds like a reflect to, you know, something that has like it's supposed to just provide immunity from damage, but then it just, like, reflects damage back to you. 00;51;34;27 - 00;51;50;01 Speaker 1 So, like. I don't necessarily see it being huge for PvP. You can get everything if you're patient and like as with all these mobile gotcha games, like time is your biggest currency. So if everyone's patient enough, you can definitely get every single thing that's in the game. 00;51;50;01 - 00;52;03;11 Speaker 1 You just, you know, money unlocks it faster. As with all these mobile games. So I don't I don't see it being a huge like, oh my God, this is the worst pay to win game in the world. I think there's another game out there that is way worse that we don't play. 00;52;04;18 - 00;52;05;14 Speaker 2 Yeah, no, I don't. 00;52;05;23 - 00;52;15;15 Speaker 1 I don't see it being that bad of a thing, to be completely honest. I haven't hit there's there has not been a point in the game where I've said, oh, my God, I can I further myself any more? 00;52;15;15 - 00;52;27;28 Speaker 1 I need to open my wallet to get past this thing, to get better pools or get better gear or get whatever. Like, I'm about to hit level 60 and then maybe that changes. Once you hit level 60, you start getting into Paragon stuff. 00;52;27;29 - 00;52;42;10 Speaker 1 Yeah, because, you know, there's definitely been times where, like, I can't progress because of how crazy the how crazy difficult things are. Like, Stan and I did a bunch of challenge reps yesterday, like we're going through all the way up to like level 16. 00;52;42;23 - 00;52;54;08 Speaker 1 We've cleared level 16. Fine. But then we're like, Oh, that's right, 19 and we just got our asses kicking, you know, like maybe that's where it ends up. But like, I'm perfectly fine just running like the challenge reps that I could do. 00;52;54;09 - 00;52;58;24 Speaker 1 Like, I don't need to be like I need to be world first to hit challenge of 200 like so. 00;52;59;08 - 00;53;11;09 Speaker 2 But that says hold on, hold on. Did you see or Jesus Vash, did you see the guy that did the math get the best gear? It's been $50,000 and that would take around 3 to 4 years to get. 00;53;11;29 - 00;53;14;26 Speaker 1 I don't believe that. I honestly I don't believe that. 00;53;14;27 - 00;53;16;12 Speaker 3 Well, on a second, even if. 00;53;16;12 - 00;53;19;26 Speaker 4 It's true, though, like, who cares? Like we're having fun and we've spent like. Yeah. 00;53;20;07 - 00;53;20;16 Speaker 2 Yeah. 00;53;21;00 - 00;53;32;08 Speaker 3 Right. Yeah. That's that's the problem is everybody's like, well, look at this long ticket. I mean, are you playing the game to beat it in six days and be like, I don't want to play? Or do you want something that you're going to be playing for a while? 00;53;32;11 - 00;53;51;06 Speaker 3 Right. Like especially with Diablo, right. The way the ABL breaks down is you're supposed to be playing the game for a while. It's the loop game. Like you're making incremental progress based on small pieces of loot that you get that gives your character a small bonus to get you past that next level of the Rift challenge or 00;53;51;06 - 00;53;56;14 Speaker 3 whatever it is. That's what Diablo is about. I mean, it's about people. 00;53;56;18 - 00;54;03;16 Speaker 4 Months and years on end. I mean, I got to for what like over a decade now, like 15 years or something. 00;54;03;17 - 00;54;12;03 Speaker 2 I think people just don't get it. I think in today's today's like modern gaming culture they yeah. Like people. 00;54;12;14 - 00;54;12;22 Speaker 3 They. 00;54;12;27 - 00;54;16;13 Speaker 2 It's it's just a weird I don't know which is it's. 00;54;18;03 - 00;54;23;06 Speaker 3 I find it funny that there's such a level of competition from a generation that just got participation trophies. 00;54;24;04 - 00;54;26;20 Speaker 1 That's a good way of putting it. 00;54;26;26 - 00;54;27;22 Speaker 4 Got a good way. 00;54;27;23 - 00;54;32;20 Speaker 2 That's a really good way of putting it, man. Got them? Yeah, that's a really good way of putting it for sure. 00;54;33;08 - 00;54;50;23 Speaker 3 It's basically got credit for showing up. But like so going back to what that's saying about like how legendaries drastically change your playstyle. I love the fact that they have suggested builds that you can explore in the game. 00;54;51;07 - 00;54;51;17 Speaker 2 Right? 00;54;52;04 - 00;55;05;19 Speaker 3 There are so many great quality of life things within this game that make your play more comfortable and less aggravating in the sense that you're not spending more time outside of the game trying to do research on it. 00;55;05;26 - 00;55;12;21 Speaker 3 It's yeah, sure will guide you to the next spot that you have to go to automatically. That's why I mean, we're not playing the game for you. We're just taking you there. Right. 00;55;12;28 - 00;55;29;07 Speaker 2 That is one good thing. Man is not an AFK farmer. I really like that. And it's a because that's like the black desert online and I love those kinds of games like me. Wrong, but like I wanted this to be different from those kinds of games because I already been playing those for a while and you get 00;55;29;07 - 00;55;47;16 Speaker 2 bored of them after a while because it becomes a f k simulator. You're not actually playing the game. Whereas this one, like you said. And not only that, you have to for the zones, you actually have to get to a certain point in the questline to be able to actually auto around for the bounties in that zone 00;55;47;16 - 00;56;04;11 Speaker 2 . So like they don't just let you automatically walk around inside of there immediately without the auto follow, which is actually pretty or auto walk, which is pretty cool. But yeah, I will say I've been playing the PC version primarily and you guys were talking about this. 00;56;04;27 - 00;56;10;05 Speaker 2 You could definitely tell that this the PC version was a late addition and that. 00;56;11;07 - 00;56;11;20 Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah. 00;56;11;20 - 00;56;23;17 Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. I know that. It's just you can really tell and I don't, I don't understand why people are bitching and moaning about it. I think it's great for what it is. I do notice, like I was playing on my in bed last night for a while on my phone for the first time. 00;56;23;17 - 00;56;39;20 Speaker 2 I like really cut into it and the game played so much better on the phone. Like so much better and especially play smoother. Yeah, it was slashing combat like demon hunter. Like I noticed a lot of times I'll be like auto shooting and I'll just my character will be just like shooting off into the void. 00;56;39;20 - 00;56;59;01 Speaker 2 Like, it'll literally turn the opposite direction of the enemies and just fire arrows in the wrong direction. Same thing with like when I press the abilities, generally speaking, on the, on the phone, it'll auto aim that towards the back of enemies whereas and the PC like I have to actually aim it in the right direction because it'll 00;56;59;01 - 00;57;13;29 Speaker 2 literally point it in the cardinal opposite direction of where the enemies are every single time. So which, which I don't care because this open beta in the top right corner of the game when I log in like I expect those kinds of things to be like that. 00;57;14;02 - 00;57;27;14 Speaker 2 That's part of it, right? So they're going to I know they're going to fix it after all. And as the days have gone along, like I've noticed, the PC client plays a little bit better every single day. So I don't know if they're hot fixing a lot of things as time goes on or if the systems are 00;57;27;14 - 00;57;40;18 Speaker 2 catching itself as people play it more and more. But it's definitely getting better and I like it. I think it's great. I mean, it's kind of better that I don't say is better than D2 remake. It's not really the right way to put it. 00;57;40;18 - 00;57;42;07 Speaker 2 It's a completely different style of game. 00;57;42;07 - 00;57;50;23 Speaker 1 It is. I mean I have easily 200 hours in D2 are. Yeah and so because I'm trying to platinum that game and it's just, it's just it's taken a long time. 00;57;50;24 - 00;57;51;05 Speaker 3 Yeah. 00;57;51;12 - 00;58;02;19 Speaker 1 I mean I've, I've played it a lot, which is why I went crusaders. I was like, I'm going to do as much early as possible because that's essentially what I'm trying to do right now with my Paladin and ETR. 00;58;03;19 - 00;58;17;02 Speaker 1 And so it's definitely it's not the same comparison, it's the same game, it's the same brand, but it's completely two different products. It's like saying that like, you know, the Gap shoes, the Gap shirts are like are way better than the Gap pants. 00;58;17;02 - 00;58;23;29 Speaker 1 Like, they're brand, but they're completely different things. So it's, it's, it's not fair to compare the two. 00;58;23;29 - 00;58;39;11 Speaker 2 I also it kind of feels like a Diablo MMO in a weird way. Like, like I don't double three not have to say it's it's a different spin on Diablo three for sure but it's a mobile game. Yeah. 00;58;39;13 - 00;58;56;04 Speaker 2 In a, in a kind of like an MMO universe, sort of. So like there's like a south, there's like a town center which is West March. And Mark, I mean, you're doing dungeons together like for all intents and purposes, like it is an MMO game just minus the like paid subscription. 00;58;56;07 - 00;59;02;28 Speaker 2 It's optional, but now it's pretty much the closest thing we're going to get to a Diablo MMO for a while. 00;59;02;28 - 00;59;13;17 Speaker 1 So I really hope that if this is any inclination to how far is going to go with like raids and that because they've hinted at like, you know, this is more of an open world, you see other players and everything like that. 00;59;13;17 - 00;59;29;06 Speaker 1 So I'm hoping that this is a thing. But like Ferro had a really good. Point that I wanted to kind of get touch on with the group here is and Stan, you can correct me because you're in that group as well we're talking about is like, okay, so if you have this this thing here that people are 00;59;30;08 - 00;59;47;18 Speaker 1 , you know, they're ideally a devil model is going to go on for years to come. And that's you know, they're putting all this time, resources and energy behind it to put it there. What's the point of building Diablo four if they're like, yeah, if it's going to be in roughly the same concept, the same idea from a 00;59;47;18 - 01;00;04;09 Speaker 1 different player base. Now I know there's like mobile is a completely different market and targeting ordinate audience from Diablo for because Diablo for more hardcore PC users, hardcore fans and totally different concepts and everything like that. But what if they put like this a lot of the same microtransactions in there because it is Activision after all, and 01;00;04;09 - 01;00;21;03 Speaker 1 it's not necessarily just just Blizzard. So what do you guys think about like the differences of how you potentially see Diablo four Vistas versus what Diablo Immortal is right now? Granted, we don't know Intel or looks like, but just thinking, just like, you know, thinking ahead in like perceptual izing. 01;00;21;10 - 01;00;34;25 Speaker 4 I mean, for me, the biggest thing is the story, right? Like, because I've been here since one, like. Like, for me, immortal is actually cool because the story, like, I didn't skip any cutscenes in any of the game, like, playing through the story. 01;00;34;25 - 01;00;50;12 Speaker 4 So I mean, for like, like I said earlier, like Immortals for me is like a time, a time sink in between two hour and four. Like when it comes out, like, I can't see myself playing immortal anymore. And so that's, I mean, I. 01;00;50;12 - 01;00;51;09 Speaker 2 Mean, maybe, maybe. 01;00;51;12 - 01;01;00;17 Speaker 4 Maybe I will like if you guys are still playing it, maybe, maybe I will. I don't know. But like, I can't imagine you guys not playing for either. So like, oh yeah, I feel. 01;01;00;17 - 01;01;00;24 Speaker 3 Like not. 01;01;00;27 - 01;01;21;00 Speaker 4 Going to be playing for with you guys instead of immortal with you guys, which, you know, and like, it's, it's, it's just going to be like, everything that immortal is only better, right? Like, because we're going to have, we're going to have dedicated like console, like next gen graphics and load times and all this. 01;01;21;00 - 01;01;39;28 Speaker 4 All the, all the stuff, all the bells and whistles that we don't have in Immortal, which, to be fair, isn't that many things. But those are those are things we don't have. And like maybe, maybe if we don't get like the raid, the real MMO raids that we were mentioning earlier in Immortal, maybe we'll get them in 01;01;39;28 - 01;01;43;26 Speaker 4 for. I don't know. Yeah. I mean so yeah. And we know that. 01;01;44;04 - 01;01;44;16 Speaker 3 That's. 01;01;45;07 - 01;01;45;22 Speaker 4 Oh god. 01;01;46;11 - 01;01;58;09 Speaker 3 Oh, so that's, that's a very good point. Like that's the thing I was going to mention was like all of the stuff that you're seeing in Immortal that lends to a shorter time of play or requirement to play is now removed. 01;01;58;09 - 01;02;20;27 Speaker 3 When you get to Diablo four, they can expect that you can sit there for, you know, half hour or 40 minutes or whatever to complete content and some of the like the creature comforts or quality of life things can also be not necessarily removed, but adjusted to where player engagement and involvement is something that becomes greater. 01;02;21;26 - 01;02;41;16 Speaker 3 They can they can basically expand on everything because it is just an upfront cost. And then the expectation is that, yeah, I'm paying to play this game for a long time. You know, I want to play for an hour or two plus at a time, plus it's going to look better, right? 01;02;41;18 - 01;02;43;09 Speaker 3 All of this is cool. It's cool. 01;02;43;24 - 01;02;45;11 Speaker 4 It looks good. 01;02;45;18 - 01;03;01;00 Speaker 2 The phone's good, man. Yeah. I mean, it's a great fucking game for us. Okay, so, like, if you go on the Facebook groups, people are just bitching and moaning about the game like left and right and then are complaining about the graphics, the gameplay storyline. 01;03;01;02 - 01;03;16;10 Speaker 2 They're all complaining about this game's pay to win. And I'm like, dude, like, this is actually a sick game. Like, because of people like you, the developers are going to be deterred from making good games like this if just everybody just whines and complains about this stuff. 01;03;16;10 - 01;03;20;20 Speaker 2 Well, not really, because the money speaks more for itself, but which I'm sure they're making a killing on this game. 01;03;20;28 - 01;03;25;20 Speaker 3 But I mean, it does factor in like people that people want to make games, just people shit on them first. 01;03;25;20 - 01;03;43;18 Speaker 2 Do I get yeah I seriously dude like it's so stupid to me that people are whining about this game. It's for free. If you don't like it, go play some other shit dude. Like it's free. Nobody is like you are picking up your you'll get you have free time, you're picking up your phone. 01;03;43;22 - 01;03;54;16 Speaker 2 So I want to download this game and play it. They're not holding the gun to your head and saying like, what are you going to shoot sign? Like? They're like, you're logging in and playing it like go play. 01;03;54;16 - 01;04;07;05 Speaker 2 Something else is a bajillion games to play. Like why do what is anybody have to cry about it like it's so I get so annoyed with how like every game it's like somebody's got to break out the white picket fence and start, like, roasting everybody ablaze. 01;04;07;05 - 01;04;10;04 Speaker 2 Like it's a video game, bro, calm down. Like. 01;04;10;22 - 01;04;17;22 Speaker 4 I think the best when I heard was that, like, all the microtransactions in Immortal are being used to fund. For. 01;04;20;13 - 01;04;21;05 Speaker 2 Right. 01;04;22;28 - 01;04;24;23 Speaker 1 And also, like the I mean, we talked to with. 01;04;24;24 - 01;04;26;08 Speaker 2 The idea. 01;04;27;00 - 01;04;36;26 Speaker 1 That the microtransactions aren't really that egregious, in my opinion. Like I said, like, there's nothing that's been like, oh my God, I have to open my wallet to get packs. 01;04;36;27 - 01;04;42;12 Speaker 2 We walk into Marvel Strikeforce. Okay, I swear to God, within the first 5 minutes. 01;04;42;12 - 01;04;43;17 Speaker 4 If we log into what. 01;04;44;24 - 01;05;00;24 Speaker 2 We log into a game with Marvel characters, that's a55 arena style RPG game. All right. You will log in within the first 5 minutes. Yes. Yes, I let me tell you, it sounds like a great idea, right? 01;05;00;25 - 01;05;01;14 Speaker 4 You may not. 01;05;01;27 - 01;05;02;10 Speaker 1 Work on it. 01;05;03;05 - 01;05;23;07 Speaker 2 Yeah. So anyways, if you log into this game, if you choose to hate yourself like this are you log into this game, you will be asked within the first 5 minutes to spend anywhere from 50 to $100 for a squad of characters that will become trivial within the first day and a half of that game. 01;05;23;08 - 01;05;35;12 Speaker 2 Okay, so when I played Diablo Immortal, I didn't get a single pop up dude. I didn't even get a pop up for the battle pass. And I don't know if it's different on the phone, but on the computer, I didn't get a single pop up. 01;05;35;15 - 01;05;51;09 Speaker 2 I didn't get one for KING The Orcs offer. I didn't get one for the five year offer. None of them either go into the shop and buy them myself. And I was over here like, man, I put aside money like I want to spend money on this game like water where the offers that so I'm just saying 01;05;51;09 - 01;06;07;25 Speaker 2 like yeah I definitely think it was a PC thing regardless. Like it did not seem to me like a, like I seen Predator dude, I played the Star Trek game one of the worst games ever because I was trying to get free gems on for the Disney game or whatever. 01;06;07;25 - 01;06;18;07 Speaker 2 And they had this like, you know, affiliate thing where you get to level 20 and you build this thing, you'll get 6000 gems in the Disney game. And I'm like, Yeah, man, I'm going to get 6000 jumps. Holy crap, man. 01;06;18;13 - 01;06;34;19 Speaker 2 Like that gives me buy net marble. I think that they are or NetEase or something like that. Dude that game was a pile of shit and peop and like you would see people getting $99 offers for like you can build a ship that doesn't even it looks like a pixel on a map. 01;06;34;19 - 01;06;45;12 Speaker 2 It's not you're not I don't even know what you're paying for. And at least in Diablo, if I get something I'm paying for, it's like I can buy a cosmetics set that makes me look like flaming God awesomeness. 01;06;45;13 - 01;06;56;17 Speaker 2 I'm saying like. Yeah, like that to me is at least I don't know, man, like, and that's not even $100. That was like I think it costs like ten, 15 bucks to get that. So like, I'll do that all day and. 01;06;56;17 - 01;07;00;20 Speaker 4 The monthly battle pass that you get a cosmetics from at the last level. 01;07;00;27 - 01;07;03;03 Speaker 2 Five bucks, five freaking. 01;07;03;03 - 01;07;05;19 Speaker 4 Bucks. Like that's what people are complaining about. 01;07;05;19 - 01;07;07;16 Speaker 3 And it's a pretty good looking cosmetic too. 01;07;07;17 - 01;07;19;05 Speaker 2 No. Yeah, they did a really good job of incorporating the battle pass into the daily gameplay to where like you don't just get benefits for strictly the battle pass, like you get XP for your character. 01;07;19;13 - 01;07;24;17 Speaker 1 And that's awesome. That's the best way to level in the game, really. In the battle pass up, even you can do it free. I mean. 01;07;24;17 - 01;07;26;17 Speaker 2 They did that intentionally if you ask me, but I. 01;07;26;17 - 01;07;29;27 Speaker 1 Know. But still, like, that's a great way to incentivize people. 01;07;30;02 - 01;07;40;29 Speaker 2 It's nothing. And if you think about it, like I saw people talk about somebody said this in the chat and I was as I was like reading the dumpster fire of the toxic chat. But guys like if you think about it, you pay $50 a month for a while. 01;07;40;29 - 01;07;52;05 Speaker 2 Subscription, this is $5. Like it's nothing. You know, I'm saying to play a game that you're spending hours playing like you can't even spend $5 on it. Like what kind of broke ass are you like? And I understand. 01;07;52;16 - 01;07;56;01 Speaker 2 Hey, ties rough man. There's people that can't even four or $5. I understand that. And I feel. 01;07;56;14 - 01;07;57;15 Speaker 3 Like that's in some places. 01;07;57;27 - 01;08;00;16 Speaker 2 You didn't make, you know, like. 01;08;00;16 - 01;08;01;13 Speaker 1 $7 a gallon. 01;08;01;13 - 01;08;08;05 Speaker 2 Hey, you know, it is what it is. And I know that there are situations like that for people. And, you know, it's unfortunate, but. 01;08;09;01 - 01;08;15;06 Speaker 4 Yeah, but, but it's like, let's keep it real though. These are the same people that are going to buy floor and then shit all over it too. 01;08;15;21 - 01;08;16;22 Speaker 2 Yeah, exactly. 01;08;17;00 - 01;08;19;05 Speaker 1 It's been 60 to $100 on for. 01;08;19;22 - 01;08;24;17 Speaker 4 Oh they're going to spend 100, 120 on the bus. The highest on the collector's edition. 01;08;24;18 - 01;08;26;25 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll get the collector's edition. Yeah. 01;08;27;13 - 01;08;31;28 Speaker 4 That's yeah I did that with three. I think I'm going to have to with four aren't I. 01;08;32;02 - 01;08;50;21 Speaker 2 Oh of course. Yeah, course. Great game. I mean I'm glad that they took a long time to, like, smooth out whatever it is that they were smoothing out, because I really don't I mean, compared to the Diablo three launch or even the D2 R launch, like this game was smooth as as Vince. 01;08;50;24 - 01;08;57;25 Speaker 1 Yeah, that's like double that's definitely double click on that because there thinking sorry that's a that's a tech term that I listed looks like on that. 01;09;00;02 - 01;09;00;08 Speaker 2 Check. 01;09;00;13 - 01;09;01;24 Speaker 1 For sure dude it's like. 01;09;01;24 - 01;09;12;06 Speaker 2 It's okay mine's robust. I hate I hate when people are like, oh yes, this is a robust list of integrations or something. Like you say, it has a lot of integrations. Dammit. We just got a slight tech sector. 01;09;12;06 - 01;09;14;01 Speaker 2 Yeah. Take it off line. 01;09;15;27 - 01;09;16;25 Speaker 1 Sure. Just go into like. 01;09;18;17 - 01;09;21;16 Speaker 2 You're going to break out first like you got no breakout room. Okay. 01;09;23;21 - 01;09;24;21 Speaker 1 This is ping me. Ping. 01;09;24;21 - 01;09;25;21 Speaker 3 Maybe later. Yes. 01;09;26;15 - 01;09;28;28 Speaker 1 No, but the but I. 01;09;29;07 - 01;09;34;10 Speaker 2 Was talking about now the launch the launch circle back on the black. 01;09;34;21 - 01;09;52;05 Speaker 1 Student. And I'm not even going there. Yeah. Yeah. The the launch aspect of it, it was smooth. There's no queues. There is no wait time. Even though they launched a day early, like there was like no server maintenance. 01;09;52;05 - 01;10;04;17 Speaker 1 There's nothing crazy happening. Like everything play. There's no like, you know, rubber banding, no lag spikes, no nothing. There's been a handful of things of like that's kind of just like weird from like your audio dropping out for dungeons and whatnot because. 01;10;04;20 - 01;10;05;19 Speaker 2 On the phone or PC. 01;10;06;18 - 01;10;19;24 Speaker 1 I'm talking on the phone. But, but I'm, I'm giving the PC a pass because it says beta. It was a it was all it said many times. This is a last minute idea and thought process, but do not expect to do this. 01;10;19;24 - 01;10;36;10 Speaker 1 But we saw the opportunity to do this and like just to say, like, you know, San and I talked about this like controller support out of the gate works perfectly. Like I'm using, I'm like, I have this guy, which is a which is a backbone, which is fantastic to use and it works great for my for this 01;10;36;13 - 01;10;46;03 Speaker 1 . I can also plug this in. Yeah. There you go. I can also plug this into my computer and use this as a controller like on the actual PC itself. I can I'm using my old PS4 controllers on my iPad. 01;10;46;12 - 01;10;52;27 Speaker 1 Like between everything, like, you know, there's cross-play support you could do like we all so many like. 01;10;53;10 - 01;10;54;00 Speaker 3 Except for me. 01;10;54;11 - 01;10;56;24 Speaker 2 Except for me. The guy. I don't know any of them over here. 01;10;57;04 - 01;10;58;05 Speaker 3 Oh, I see. So. 01;10;59;03 - 01;11;04;06 Speaker 1 Yeah. So you can use a ps5. You can use piece for controller, you could probably PS3 controller. Really wanted to switch. 01;11;04;08 - 01;11;04;26 Speaker 4 Microsoft. 01;11;05;12 - 01;11;10;13 Speaker 1 Switch controller. You can literally use all these different things and it's all available day one. And like a lot of people. 01;11;10;20 - 01;11;12;08 Speaker 2 Just give controllers. 01;11;12;19 - 01;11;22;23 Speaker 1 A lot. A lot of people have been like especially a lot of stuff on Reddit that I've been seeing on the Diablo subreddit. I'm saying like, Yo, Isaac, there's a lot of good stuff, but I just want to shit on the game and talk about the bad stuff. 01;11;22;23 - 01;11;24;05 Speaker 1 Like, well, list the good stuff. 01;11;24;06 - 01;11;24;14 Speaker 4 List. 01;11;24;18 - 01;11;36;14 Speaker 1 Stuff you like saying because like you can't just have a biased opinion about something just because you have this thing. And also like and then I've said it a million times, like in terms of microtransactions and for mobile gaming, like this is not that bad. 01;11;36;14 - 01;11;46;25 Speaker 1 Like for everyone who's played a mobile game in the last five years, they all know that like there's all these things that happen and it's like it's, it's super money hungry and they just want to get a cash cow out of it. 01;11;46;28 - 01;11;56;16 Speaker 1 Like, in reality, like, I think that they're doing things smart and pricing things out well and that it's just going to be they're trying to make it, you know, for people who want to spend the whales in the Yeah. 01;11;56;17 - 01;12;11;02 Speaker 1 Around who want to like spend money to get stuff because they have money outside, you know, more money than God or whatever they're able to do. So but for this stuff, it's like, I don't know, it's just I'm, I don't know, I'm super stoked about where this is going and how this is playing out. 01;12;11;06 - 01;12;13;20 Speaker 1 So I'm going to get off my my rant box now. 01;12;13;22 - 01;12;27;00 Speaker 3 No, I mean, you have very valid points. Like one of the things like also from a tactical perspective is I'm on the West Coast putting on East Coast server and I've yet to feel significant or any lag. It feels like it's good, right? 01;12;27;01 - 01;12;31;00 Speaker 3 I was concerned about that. Seems like it's working pretty well. 01;12;32;14 - 01;12;48;26 Speaker 2 You know? Okay, well, I do have one complaint. I wish more bands had more slots. Like, I don't. I don't understand the dynamic of here, am I controlling my and I understand the dynamics of, like, the clans versus the war bands. 01;12;48;26 - 01;13;01;07 Speaker 2 Like, I don't. I mean, I'm sure they're in the grand scheme of things. Like there's more like there will be more fleshed out with this as time goes on. But like on the launch, like it seems like the war bands are more important than the clans. 01;13;01;07 - 01;13;05;19 Speaker 2 And I don't get what the clan is for because I don't have any interaction with people yet. 01;13;05;28 - 01;13;11;10 Speaker 4 But once we get the shadow and immortal thing unlocked for the clan, maybe that will start to change. 01;13;11;10 - 01;13;14;04 Speaker 3 Or yeah, that's going to become a bigger thing. Yeah. 01;13;14;04 - 01;13;28;11 Speaker 4 Gosh, I think I also agree with you though on the size of the war band. Like I feel like that would have been cooler because you know, we have eight player raid content. It would have been cool if they would have had like we're band size of like 16 or 12 or 14 or something. 01;13;28;19 - 01;13;34;10 Speaker 2 Yeah. At least, at least give you room for for bench playbacks or alternates or something. Yeah. 01;13;34;19 - 01;13;36;20 Speaker 4 Or like Yeah. Drums or something. 01;13;37;00 - 01;13;42;01 Speaker 1 I, I haven't even dived into alternate characters. I just picked one. So have you guys played any alts? 01;13;42;02 - 01;13;43;23 Speaker 2 Yeah. Oh, yeah, definitely. Yeah. 01;13;44;02 - 01;13;51;27 Speaker 3 I heard that. At some point, though, they're going to offer the ability to change your character, your main character's class. 01;13;52;10 - 01;14;03;18 Speaker 2 Yeah. Wouldn't surprise me. You can. And you can do that in the game. Guardians of Claudiu that I'm playing, because they just released the new one, the gunner and I was a rogue and I paid like 20 bucks to switch to a gunner and it was so worth it. 01;14;03;25 - 01;14;19;18 Speaker 2 So I think that's like a thing that they're doing in these modern games now is they're giving people the option of switching. Because if you spend so much money and time invested in a class and you don't like it, it's like it did you would you would rather switch to another class you could enjoy then for you 01;14;19;18 - 01;14;35;25 Speaker 2 to like, oh god, I got to make another all like, no, I'm going to stick with this game because like I have to, I have all this money invested. It's actually, I mean, yeah, I don't know, like new, like I'm sure older players, you know, that are nostalgic or, you know, prefer the old school approach. 01;14;35;25 - 01;14;41;00 Speaker 2 You'd be like, Man, it's cheating or it's stupid. But I kind of think it's genius because it, you know. 01;14;41;24 - 01;14;44;03 Speaker 3 We talk about money being the currency or time being the currency. 01;14;44;12 - 01;14;45;08 Speaker 2 Yeah, exactly. 01;14;45;08 - 01;14;46;27 Speaker 3 Yeah. That's basically what you're investing in. 01;14;47;00 - 01;14;55;18 Speaker 2 I was going to quit the game and because I was I was pissed that I was like, broke is awful in this game. And everybody said it was just be good and I'm sorry, I'm talking about guard. Is it cloudy and not Diablo? 01;14;55;18 - 01;15;09;07 Speaker 2 And then, you know, somebody was like, oh, you can switch class. I'm like, oh shit. Thank God it like saved the game, you know? So that would be cool because I'm sure there's people out there that like, like Charlie was just saying, like he just he started is this but what if you didn't like that and he 01;15;09;07 - 01;15;22;16 Speaker 2 invested like, you know, 6 hours playing it? It's like, man, I don't want to do this all over again. Oh, I can just spend, you know, in-game currency and switch over to a barbarian or wizard or something like dope, you know? 01;15;23;16 - 01;15;33;18 Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm sure that definitely would be balancing stuff because right now it is weird. Stan and I were talking about yesterday was like, you know, Wizards right now is ultimately like fundamentally the worst class of Diablo. 01;15;33;22 - 01;15;35;29 Speaker 2 That's how it was when Diablo three launched you. 01;15;36;01 - 01;15;51;06 Speaker 1 Yeah. So seeing that, I'm curious as to, you know, I like that idea of being able to switch classes because that's yeah, it goes, it goes along that line of yes, I have all this time and money and energy invested into it and like I don't I that's why, that's why I was asking the question because like 01;15;51;06 - 01;16;01;28 Speaker 1 , should I start working on a wizard? Like, what do I like? Because now I can get my paragon levels. I'm curious, like, are there anything that you think are things shared? Like, do you have that currency shared between characters? 01;16;01;28 - 01;16;21;07 Speaker 2 Yes, the currency is currency issued. I don't know about the stash, but you you do start. Okay. So I on my necromancer, I unlocked the battle pass on my demon hunter. The battle pass. When it unlocked it was level one and I was able to complete the levels on my alternate character as well. 01;16;21;07 - 01;16;22;08 Speaker 2 Oh yeah. 01;16;22;18 - 01;16;30;01 Speaker 1 So like you can get those like, like level ten when you get like the unique, legendary item that you can unlock those per each character. 01;16;30;01 - 01;16;37;19 Speaker 2 Then did you as far as I know. Yeah. But like I only hit level two on like on my necromancer on the battle pass because I haven't spent a lot of time on it. 01;16;38;00 - 01;16;39;11 Speaker 3 But yeah. 01;16;39;23 - 01;16;51;23 Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm, I mean, it's, I'm pretty, I mean, I would like for somebody to tell me if I'm wrong or because like, my initial thought was like, Oh man, am I going to have to because I started the demon play with my best friend and then he can log on. 01;16;51;23 - 01;17;04;27 Speaker 2 So I was like, I'm starting Necromancer because that's what I want to play by myself. So I started leveling Unlock the Battle Pass and my demon hunter started out. I was already level five on the Battle Pass and the Necro was level one and I collected the level one reward. 01;17;04;27 - 01;17;12;09 Speaker 2 So I was like. I didn't have to buy it again like I thought. I thought for sure I was going to unlock it again, which I was going to do because it's five bucks. It's not a big deal to me. 01;17;12;18 - 01;17;24;08 Speaker 2 So I was going to do it again and I'm like, Oh, sweet. Like, I didn't have to do it, you know? But I'm sure the the boon, the daily log in calendar, I don't think that I don't know if that one rolls over to the characters or not. 01;17;24;08 - 01;17;36;16 Speaker 2 I haven't checked that one yet I would say. But the yeah. So I thought that was pretty badass. And, and not only that, this is going to be, this is basically going to like push people to want to make alts and, and do more characters. 01;17;36;16 - 01;17;44;21 Speaker 2 And I mean, people like Stan over, they're going to basically have like every class a little sticky with battle pass 900 maxed out so. 01;17;46;05 - 01;17;57;17 Speaker 4 Yeah maybe I don't know I was I was thinking about that because like if my girlfriend does get started playing today, like am I going to want to play my, my doctor or do I want to try like making another character? 01;17;57;17 - 01;18;04;17 Speaker 4 And I'm like, I might do that and see what it's like as far as like what transfers over kind of like are you talking about? 01;18;05;14 - 01;18;07;14 Speaker 2 Do the Negroes. The Negroes sick? 01;18;07;15 - 01;18;08;29 Speaker 4 I'm sorry. Like fun. 01;18;09;02 - 01;18;18;13 Speaker 2 It's. It's definitely the. I mean, one thing that's different about the game is that they change all the skills. Like they're not all the same by any means, and they definitely. 01;18;18;13 - 01;18;19;03 Speaker 3 Some of them are. 01;18;19;12 - 01;18;28;12 Speaker 2 Well, yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, like, Strafe is the exact same for a demon hunter, but like, they don't have vaults anymore. They have something. They have, like, a grappling shot. Like. 01;18;29;06 - 01;18;31;19 Speaker 4 Yeah, that all sucks compared to vault, right? 01;18;31;24 - 01;18;45;24 Speaker 2 It's totally shit compared to ball. Yeah, for sure. So. But then. But then like they have but like there is a, I got a, I got a legendary item that if I use smokescreen it smokescreens my entire team which I thought was super cool. 01;18;45;25 - 01;18;57;00 Speaker 2 Yeah. So like you can tell there's a lot of, there's going to be a lot of like different variants of what you can do and. Oh, definitely the I. 01;18;57;16 - 01;19;14;27 Speaker 3 Know I would say that's what I was talking about earlier when talking about switching up the playstyles or whatever, like with the Crusader you start out with was a falling light, which is a two step ability where you set a spot and then you can immediately, you know, following sort of you really jump drop down on that 01;19;14;27 - 01;19;25;06 Speaker 3 spot, then you get a legendary item that changes that from the jump in the drop to a33 stage dash, one dash forward and slice your sword instead. 01;19;25;19 - 01;19;27;06 Speaker 2 Oh, interesting. That's cool. Yeah. 01;19;27;16 - 01;19;30;03 Speaker 3 That's and that's. Yeah. And like. 01;19;30;14 - 01;19;31;13 Speaker 2 But it's like you get that. 01;19;32;02 - 01;19;41;07 Speaker 3 You can get that drastic of a change to an ability or something small, like where there's another legendary where you throw the shield and rather than just hitting one enemy, it bounces off of multiple enemies before you. 01;19;41;08 - 01;19;41;24 Speaker 2 Spend. 01;19;41;28 - 01;19;43;24 Speaker 3 Fortunes around. Yeah, exactly. 01;19;43;25 - 01;19;44;26 Speaker 1 Hammered in essentially. 01;19;44;26 - 01;20;03;07 Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got a great get an item last night that allows the strafe to throw grenades instead of doing shots. I didn't get it because there was the other item was better, but it increased the damage on century by 10% and I've gotta another thing that the centuries actually shoot rockets every oh shots 01;20;03;15 - 01;20;03;26 Speaker 2 so it's. 01;20;04;04 - 01;20;05;13 Speaker 4 Like one I like such. 01;20;05;25 - 01;20;19;15 Speaker 2 Centers are dirty do they blow shit up so I'm I'm very much enjoying the demon hunter I wish I had the ability to do more spells or more abilities. Like four is very limiting for that class because there's so many freaking good abilities. 01;20;19;27 - 01;20;34;01 Speaker 2 But it's it's it's easily my favorite. I love the demon hunter. So much fun. Nigger's sick though because I love like the grappling ability where you just like you break out of sight and you're like mailing stuff and then you get your skeletons and you could do, like, bone walls and. 01;20;35;05 - 01;20;37;12 Speaker 4 Yeah, bones, bells just keep. 01;20;38;22 - 01;20;52;25 Speaker 2 The games. Cool shit, man. Diablo dude, you know? Yeah, it's like. It's like a faster, not buggy version of Diablo. I don't know. Machines. 01;20;53;04 - 01;20;54;11 Speaker 3 But not buggy version. 01;20;54;19 - 01;21;04;28 Speaker 2 I don't know. It's not what I meant to say. I meant to say it's like the the combat doesn't seem that super buggy to me, other than the fact that when I'm playing on my on my computer, the the shots are going the wrong direction. 01;21;04;28 - 01;21;10;11 Speaker 2 But like I said when I was on the phone, that was not a problem. So. Yeah. Yeah. 01;21;10;29 - 01;21;17;19 Speaker 1 Well, well, is there any, any last comments before we get into, you know, close up the pod and get into our last thing of the day? 01;21;17;20 - 01;21;19;24 Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. We've been talking for an hour. 01;21;20;08 - 01;21;30;12 Speaker 4 I don't know. Does anybody want it? Does anybody want to hear about all these controllers I have? Cause they're like the Android ones. Yeah, I don't know. Like, I think you go through it real quick. Okay. 01;21;30;12 - 01;21;30;29 Speaker 1 So far. 01;21;30;29 - 01;21;46;03 Speaker 4 Real quick. So yesterday I got the Razer Kishi. It's like one of the most well known ones, and it fits my phone with the case, like, barely. It's a snug fit. It's it's whatever it doesn't have, it doesn't have. 01;21;46;03 - 01;21;53;00 Speaker 4 But mapping which I've, I think if you're going to use one of these controllers like you want. Right. Because like you can. 01;21;53;06 - 01;21;54;09 Speaker 1 I can do that on the background. 01;21;54;10 - 01;22;11;04 Speaker 4 Yeah. And like that's, that's the best feature about it. So like there's, there's this one which is Shaq's and like it fits great in your hands. It has the most buttons out of all of them. It has button mapping and it can fit like more, more phones and more cases. 01;22;11;15 - 01;22;24;07 Speaker 4 Unfortunately, I was looking at their page the other day and it's like not available right now, which really sucks, but it's, it's like the best one. And then I got this one, the game ser, which is kind of like in the middle and it's, it's whatever. 01;22;24;07 - 01;22;40;16 Speaker 4 It's, it's good. It does everything but like the, the, but the whole button tapping thing is amazing because like, you can, you can add so many different buttons. Like you can add a button for your map minimap, you can add a button for like closing your menus, you can add a button for the codex, you can add 01;22;40;16 - 01;22;54;07 Speaker 4 a bot, you know, and you can, you could do other stuff like at Turbo to Turkey's if you want, like to be sure, you know, because like sometimes your auto attack will like hinder you using a potion or your alter something. 01;22;54;07 - 01;23;00;07 Speaker 4 And so if you put turbo on those buttons, then you'll get it like a split second zone or whatever. But. 01;23;01;07 - 01;23;06;12 Speaker 3 What was the one you said was the second one that had the auto mapping or. No, that was the first one, the auto plant mapping. 01;23;06;12 - 01;23;10;23 Speaker 4 But both of these two have bought mapping the game ser and the Shaq's. I think it's the. 01;23;10;24 - 01;23;14;07 Speaker 3 Shaq's I think. Yeah. That the one you said was the better one. Yeah. 01;23;14;21 - 01;23;32;09 Speaker 4 Yeah. And it also has something that the other two don't have. It has pressurized triggers, which is really awesome, like if you play like a shooter or something. So like just overall, like it has, it has the most buttons, it has it has that it feels the best out of all three of them too. 01;23;32;18 - 01;23;42;16 Speaker 1 But yeah, real quick, I've been like just running through dislike and the bluestacks in the background. I just picked up Nicole on dislike, which is like the best character out of the new characters. 01;23;42;16 - 01;23;44;14 Speaker 4 I just. Oh, really? Oh, nice. Nice. 01;23;44;27 - 01;23;53;12 Speaker 1 She gives it, like, invincibility to everybody. So I was like, Are you fucking kidding me? Was just how it works. Like, I was like, Oh, I can't do anything because, like, I'm like time I'm gated behind these characters. 01;23;53;12 - 01;23;55;14 Speaker 1 No. Oh, picked up the best. There you go. 01;23;55;20 - 01;23;57;25 Speaker 2 I was going to ask and they really back in. 01;23;58;22 - 01;24;00;09 Speaker 1 Yeah. Is she support. 01;24;00;09 - 01;24;02;06 Speaker 4 I think it sounds like it. It sounds like it. 01;24;02;11 - 01;24;04;09 Speaker 2 The the one you back in the. 01;24;04;09 - 01;24;15;14 Speaker 4 One last accessory I've been using. I was told stuff about this I think the other day is the stand that I have and I put on top of a box. And so I put my phone on the stand and it has a fan in it too. 01;24;15;22 - 01;24;31;02 Speaker 4 And so it's like perfect for playing mobile like so that's because, because those, those Bluetooth controllers like I use those if I'm in bad but normally I'm using the switch controller and the stand so I can just play it kind of like it's a console game, which is great. 01;24;31;02 - 01;24;36;03 Speaker 4 And this thing, this thing was like 12 or 15 bucks or something, but it was necessary. 01;24;36;06 - 01;24;41;06 Speaker 2 They got four phones now and like phones are basically like the modern day game boys and. 01;24;41;07 - 01;24;41;22 Speaker 4 Right. 01;24;42;10 - 01;24;45;13 Speaker 3 Yeah. Game years better than they ever were though. 01;24;45;13 - 01;24;59;14 Speaker 2 Oh, better than way better than they ever went. Holy shit. I think about like the, the, the resident evil guide in game that I paid 200 bucks for and I loaded it in. I was like, this is atrociously bad. 01;24;59;14 - 01;25;09;11 Speaker 2 And you know, we have come so far as, as gamer. I said that like the retro gaming community, like it's not that bad. I thought it was a pretty good game. I'm like, dude, do. 01;25;10;24 - 01;25;11;00 Speaker 3 Do. 01;25;12;04 - 01;25;16;03 Speaker 2 Do you have a phone? Have you do you play anything in the last five years? 01;25;19;14 - 01;25;19;23 Speaker 1 Yeah. 01;25;20;02 - 01;25;20;09 Speaker 2 Yeah. 01;25;21;01 - 01;25;32;22 Speaker 1 Yeah. And, and I like the I picked up the backbone just to kind of piggyback off of Stan because this is, you know, I need something my phone only just has like the lightning port. And you can you can charge it as well while you're playing, which is great. 01;25;33;02 - 01;25;47;11 Speaker 1 The only thing that I dislike about this, the only thing is the fact that, like, the back's just a little bit too flat, as you can kind of see, like as opposed to a controller has like res. So it's like it's hard to grip, you know, cause like, you know, if yeah, because I normally have to like 01;25;47;11 - 01;25;58;05 Speaker 1 , put my hands like my fingers like this in order to play it and then use like these here is because like it's hard to like hold on to for some reason. So it's just like just ergonomics, but otherwise I think functionality wise, it's great. 01;25;58;05 - 01;26;10;06 Speaker 1 And I can actually I just found out that, you know, I put a link to if anyone is interested in getting one, I put a link in our discord. Essentially, it's like a referral link that you get ten bucks and I get ten bucks to do some stuff. 01;26;10;06 - 01;26;23;06 Speaker 1 I'll put it in in the pot as well if know interested. But I think I could stream right to twitch from this. Yeah. You get like, well I'm playing it so I'm going to try that next week while I'm away in L.A. cause I have some time to play a little bit, but. 01;26;23;14 - 01;26;26;20 Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, you said you're going to be in L.A.. It's funny. I would be right down the road in Carlsbad. 01;26;27;27 - 01;26;29;01 Speaker 1 So I don't know where that is. 01;26;29;12 - 01;26;31;00 Speaker 3 That's between L.A. and San Diego. 01;26;31;08 - 01;26;45;00 Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Cool. Yeah, yeah, I'm there all next week, so from. From Monday through Sunday, so. You're phone anyway. So let's. I wanted to look and do something. We haven't done this in a while for our early listeners of the Pod World. 01;26;45;00 - 01;27;02;19 Speaker 1 No, we used to do like trivia back in the day. So we're not doing trivia. We're doing something a little different. Since we've been talking about a lot of mobile games, I wanted to bring back something that we used to do, like probably two years ago I'll go called a mobile gamer bullshit where we were, like I 01;27;02;19 - 01;27;09;15 Speaker 1 say, I give a couple of names. I'm going to give ten names of mobile games and I'm going to say whether or not you guys think they're mobile other a mobile game or if they're bullshit. 01;27;11;21 - 01;27;12;02 Speaker 3 Makes sense. 01;27;12;27 - 01;27;13;01 Speaker 2 Whether. 01;27;13;02 - 01;27;14;11 Speaker 1 Or not they're made up or whatever. Okay. 01;27;14;19 - 01;27;16;08 Speaker 2 Am I am I in on this or is it just the. 01;27;16;09 - 01;27;25;19 Speaker 1 Everyone's in on it. Everyone everyone's playing except for me because I obviously wrote the list. Right? So, so with that. So I'm going to I'm going to hand it off to I want to go in and order what I have here. 01;27;25;19 - 01;27;36;21 Speaker 1 So as I got huge, I got Stan, I got Chef. So that's what's on my screen. So that's what we're going to do. So when I have the time down, I don't forget it anyway. Okay, so number one. 01;27;37;21 - 01;27;40;08 Speaker 1 Traffic tour. Mobile game. Bullshit. 01;27;40;25 - 01;27;43;20 Speaker 2 Bullshit. No. Now I'm going to order. 01;27;44;26 - 01;27;45;01 Speaker 4 The. 01;27;45;27 - 01;27;49;13 Speaker 3 Mobile traffic tour. I'm going to go mobile game. 01;27;50;16 - 01;27;51;06 Speaker 4 Mobile game. 01;27;52;14 - 01;27;53;25 Speaker 2 Yeah. Bullshit. 01;27;54;16 - 01;28;03;21 Speaker 1 Okay. And I'm going to. I'm going to give the list at the end of it. So we're not going to give them, you know, as we go. All right. So. All right, number two, my singing monster. Small game or bullshit? 01;28;04;19 - 01;28;09;12 Speaker 3 Damn. That actually does sound like a mobile game. My singing monster. Yeah. Google mobile. 01;28;09;12 - 01;28;11;11 Speaker 4 Game. It does? Yeah. Mobile game. 01;28;13;07 - 01;28;14;19 Speaker 2 Piece. Okay. 01;28;16;27 - 01;28;19;05 Speaker 1 Number three, strike one returned. 01;28;20;06 - 01;28;27;05 Speaker 3 Strike one returned. Oh, Jesus. I know I'm wrong, but I'm going to go. Bullshit. 01;28;28;26 - 01;28;30;24 Speaker 4 I think that's a mobile game to. 01;28;34;08 - 01;28;35;21 Speaker 2 Go back to. 01;28;35;28 - 01;28;39;05 Speaker 1 The street. It gets tough. It gets real tough. All right. 01;28;39;11 - 01;28;40;20 Speaker 2 We're not on the tough ones already. 01;28;41;03 - 01;28;41;25 Speaker 3 Oh, geez. No. 01;28;42;25 - 01;28;45;08 Speaker 1 All right. Number four, Armada space warfare. 01;28;46;20 - 01;28;49;25 Speaker 3 Oh, good God. Now I'm gonna bullshit this. 01;28;50;05 - 01;28;50;29 Speaker 4 I think that's a. 01;28;51;26 - 01;28;57;29 Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm pretty sure I've seen that mobile game. I've seen similar with our model. I've seen something with our modern. 01;28;58;28 - 01;29;05;17 Speaker 1 That's the tricks. Like they're all mobile. Exactly. All right. Number five. Number five. The room three. 01;29;06;18 - 01;29;11;12 Speaker 3 The room three. Well, no, because I thought the no bullshit. 01;29;13;14 - 01;29;19;26 Speaker 4 I think that's bullshit too, because I think two is the only one I've like the highest when I see evidence of a. 01;29;20;15 - 01;29;21;02 Speaker 2 Mobile game. 01;29;21;11 - 01;29;21;19 Speaker 4 Set. 01;29;24;13 - 01;29;25;06 Speaker 3 Obviously I'm up. 01;29;25;27 - 01;29;28;01 Speaker 2 I'm I'm I'm not looking anything up. 01;29;28;01 - 01;29;32;03 Speaker 4 He said we got it we got we got all the rest. 01;29;32;20 - 01;29;34;15 Speaker 2 I'll play the rest of the game like this. 01;29;34;15 - 01;29;38;23 Speaker 1 There you go. All right. Number six, Crazy Office Slap and smash. 01;29;39;00 - 01;29;40;03 Speaker 2 Oh, definitely. 01;29;40;03 - 01;29;42;20 Speaker 3 Oh, that's a mobile game. That's a mobile game. 01;29;43;10 - 01;29;44;18 Speaker 2 Wait effect. 01;29;44;26 - 01;29;47;26 Speaker 4 What kind of mobile game is that? 01;29;51;13 - 01;29;52;05 Speaker 3 I'm giving you game. 01;29;52;21 - 01;29;58;03 Speaker 1 All right, I guess everyone's on. Be okay. All right. Number seven, King Clash Arena. 01;30;00;19 - 01;30;04;10 Speaker 3 I think I've heard of that. It sounds familiar. I'm going to go mobile game. 01;30;05;00 - 01;30;05;23 Speaker 4 Mobile game? 01;30;06;16 - 01;30;09;25 Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm going mobile game, too. I'm pretty sure I've seen King Clash. I don't know if so. 01;30;10;01 - 01;30;12;19 Speaker 4 Who is that? The first one? We've all agreed on this. 01;30;13;18 - 01;30;14;28 Speaker 3 No, the second one. Yeah. 01;30;14;28 - 01;30;20;18 Speaker 1 Well, that's true. Yeah. All right. Number eight, pillow fight girls ball gamer bullshit. 01;30;23;09 - 01;30;33;18 Speaker 3 Wait. Is Pornhub making games now? You know what? Because I want it to be a thing. I'm going to go mobile game and it's. 01;30;34;12 - 01;30;36;10 Speaker 4 What is it called again? Pillow Fight Club. 01;30;36;15 - 01;30;37;20 Speaker 3 Pillow fight, girls. 01;30;37;28 - 01;30;38;27 Speaker 1 Pillow fight, girls. 01;30;39;01 - 01;30;46;18 Speaker 4 Perfect. Perfect. Oh, God, that sounds like a mobile game, doesn't it? Do it. Mobile game. Old game. 01;30;46;19 - 01;30;47;28 Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm going. Mobile game. 01;30;48;14 - 01;30;50;19 Speaker 3 Okay. That's three in a row we agreed on. Yeah. 01;30;50;22 - 01;30;53;27 Speaker 1 Yeah. All right. Number nine, Sally's pony, right? 01;30;55;28 - 01;30;59;20 Speaker 3 No, I'm going to go bullshit it. Although it probably is. I'm just going to go bullshit. 01;31;00;11 - 01;31;03;28 Speaker 4 That sounds just specific enough to be a mobile game. 01;31;03;29 - 01;31;05;16 Speaker 2 I think I'm going to bullshit. 01;31;07;07 - 01;31;07;16 Speaker 3 Okay. 01;31;07;29 - 01;31;12;07 Speaker 1 And the last one. Space takeover over city. 01;31;14;26 - 01;31;25;01 Speaker 3 Dude. So that is a crazy enough game to where the translation would be bad. Well, I'm going to go mobile game. Hmm. 01;31;25;02 - 01;31;30;12 Speaker 4 That's a good point. No, I think I'm going to go bullshit on that one. 01;31;31;20 - 01;31;32;24 Speaker 2 Can you say the name one more time? 01;31;33;10 - 01;31;36;05 Speaker 1 Space takeover over city. 01;31;38;08 - 01;31;39;03 Speaker 2 I'm gon bullshit. 01;31;39;27 - 01;31;40;06 Speaker 1 That. 01;31;40;18 - 01;31;41;03 Speaker 4 Proud of. 01;31;41;12 - 01;31;46;18 Speaker 1 Ready? Here we go. Number one traffic tour. Indeed. Is a mobile game. 01;31;47;16 - 01;31;48;15 Speaker 2 Mother massacre. 01;31;49;02 - 01;31;51;26 Speaker 1 By singing monsters is indeed a mobile game. 01;31;51;29 - 01;31;52;26 Speaker 2 Did I say yes? 01;31;53;08 - 01;31;53;28 Speaker 3 Yeah. You said. 01;31;53;28 - 01;32;00;09 Speaker 1 That? Yes. Yep, yep. Number three, strike one returned is indeed bullshit. Oh. 01;32;00;15 - 01;32;02;16 Speaker 2 Over three. Oh. 01;32;02;16 - 01;32;06;28 Speaker 1 Number four, Armada. Space warfare is indeed bullshit. No. 01;32;06;28 - 01;32;09;08 Speaker 2 Look over your border, man. 01;32;10;02 - 01;32;14;09 Speaker 1 The room three number five is indeed a mobile game. Yes. 01;32;14;16 - 01;32;14;26 Speaker 2 Okay. 01;32;15;28 - 01;32;28;15 Speaker 1 And you all got this one right to the crazy office. Slap and Smash is a mobile game, and it looks like the most obscure thing I could find. I was like, I had to do something that's just sports. 01;32;31;09 - 01;32;34;09 Speaker 1 All right, King Clash Arena is bullshit. 01;32;34;14 - 01;32;39;28 Speaker 2 No. Oh, on. What is it, ten? Because there is a king clash. Like it's your game. 01;32;40;07 - 01;32;42;09 Speaker 1 Cause it's called Clash Arena. 01;32;42;25 - 01;32;47;02 Speaker 3 Oh, see, I knew he was going to do something like change the name slightly. 01;32;47;03 - 01;32;56;00 Speaker 1 Yeah, I looked it all up, so I made sure that these are all, like, legit or not. So one, four, six fox, who will be happy to hear that pillow fight, girls, isn't it again? 01;32;56;09 - 01;33;09;04 Speaker 2 I knew it. I knew that was the game. That's true. There's too many bucks out there for that to not be a game. No offense. No offense to anybody likes that game. I'm just saying that they that get gamers, they like some stuff that. 01;33;10;26 - 01;33;20;09 Speaker 1 I just I just saw chat. Yes. Prior to being I am just naming off my head bookmarked just now. Yes. And Sally's pony ride is indeed bullshit. 01;33;20;19 - 01;33;21;23 Speaker 2 How so? 01;33;22;05 - 01;33;34;12 Speaker 1 Maybe there is. There's so many pony games, though. It's just like I was like, how do I. There is a Sally's Sally's ride, but it's not Sally's pony, right? So this changed ever so slightly. And finally, space take over. 01;33;34;16 - 01;33;36;09 Speaker 1 Over city is a real game. 01;33;36;18 - 01;33;37;25 Speaker 3 Yes, it. 01;33;38;12 - 01;33;44;06 Speaker 2 Is. I think it's terrible. I mean, I think I went to for it to 410 or something like that. 01;33;44;14 - 01;33;53;24 Speaker 1 The spider is hoot. Hooch is a, stan is for and chef is for. So who you are mobile game or bullshit winner or this O.G. partner. 01;33;53;24 - 01;33;56;17 Speaker 2 G Imagine that the guy that works in game development. 01;33;56;24 - 01;33;58;07 Speaker 3 I've never heard of any of those. 01;33;58;08 - 01;34;06;02 Speaker 2 No, I did all that. It just goes it just goes to show that your knowledge of bullshit when it comes to naming of video games is on another level. Sir. 01;34;06;11 - 01;34;16;25 Speaker 1 I tried. I try to keep it as like, you know, as bullshit as I could. And while also putting in some things I just like, there's no way this is a game. Let's just know it. And then it just like, no, no, I know that 100%. 01;34;16;25 - 01;34;23;14 Speaker 1 It sounds like. Like a mobile game like that. Yeah, I like the translation error philosophy is the good way to go. Yeah. Yeah. 01;34;23;23 - 01;34;27;00 Speaker 3 That's what I thought I was going with. Like when, when it was to like, specific and. 01;34;27;01 - 01;34;28;25 Speaker 2 Well, what pillow fight girls? 01;34;29;20 - 01;34;33;16 Speaker 3 Oh, no, no, no. That was it. Yeah, I'm a crazy sick fuck. No, but that. 01;34;33;23 - 01;34;39;24 Speaker 2 No, you know, I'm going to kill off. Like, I feel like I saw a game not too long ago where it was girls pillow fighting. That's why I like, i. 01;34;40;11 - 01;34;44;05 Speaker 3 I it's just. It's not like something. It just seemed like something that would totally be out there. 01;34;44;17 - 01;34;55;10 Speaker 1 Yeah. Amazing. So, anyway, thank you all very much for joining us this week. I know we kind of like went way over time what we normally do, we try to keep it to an hour, but I felt like there was a lot of good fun stuff to do because we're talking a lot of mobile game stuff. 01;34;55;10 - 01;34;59;16 Speaker 1 So huge. Thank you very much. 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