00;00;00;01 - 00;00;08;05 Speaker 1 All right, so. So here's the newest thing on Twitch that I do not understand. And, Dom, tell me when they're going to, like, finally do the smack down on this. 00;00;08;15 - 00;00;16;07 Speaker 2 What is it that way? Although I know you guys have insider knowledge. Look, just because you we're team. 00;00;16;10 - 00;00;23;10 Speaker 1 I know, but that means that you, like, know everything at the billion dollar company. You're like my insider, you know, they're. 00;00;23;10 - 00;00;24;01 Speaker 2 Supposed to know. 00;00;24;07 - 00;00;26;05 Speaker 1 Everything, like the ins and. 00;00;26;05 - 00;00;26;17 Speaker 2 Outs. 00;00;26;27 - 00;00;29;14 Speaker 1 Of the entire operation of Twitch. 00;00;29;14 - 00;00;31;29 Speaker 3 Okay, so this is how it's supposed to happen? Yeah. 00;00;32;00 - 00;00;35;24 Speaker 1 Like you're supposed to infiltrate them from the inside and then get a partner status. 00;00;36;12 - 00;00;39;14 Speaker 3 Yeah, that's the whole point of your agreement, right? To work at Twitch. 00;00;39;14 - 00;00;41;08 Speaker 2 Yeah, right. You don't, you don't help out a. 00;00;41;08 - 00;00;45;17 Speaker 1 Pod because you're supposed to be out there getting us free partner status on the inside. 00;00;45;19 - 00;00;50;13 Speaker 2 Yeah. It's not like anyways anyways. Anyway got me was like so. 00;00;50;18 - 00;00;51;14 Speaker 1 I'm trying to figure. 00;00;51;14 - 00;00;55;01 Speaker 3 This out, setting yourself up on the camera at least for the Jesus Christ. Thank you. 00;00;55;05 - 00;00;56;02 Speaker 2 I center this week. 00;00;56;12 - 00;00;57;09 Speaker 1 Am I certified? 00;00;57;11 - 00;00;59;19 Speaker 3 Okay, dancers looks like he's like going off the frame. 00;00;59;20 - 00;01;00;23 Speaker 1 I dodge, so. 00;01;00;23 - 00;01;04;10 Speaker 3 I do the pod from here. Guys, I want to do the pod from here. It's great. You see me? 00;01;04;22 - 00;01;06;21 Speaker 2 He's good. He's good thing he's. He looks like. 00;01;06;21 - 00;01;11;12 Speaker 1 Batman right now. He's got, like, the darkness, my old friend kind of thing going on. 00;01;11;24 - 00;01;12;19 Speaker 2 Anyways, we love. Yeah. 00;01;13;18 - 00;01;16;11 Speaker 1 So. Okay, so anyways, what's going on? A twitch to. 00;01;16;11 - 00;01;17;21 Speaker 2 See with you again. 00;01;17;21 - 00;01;19;02 Speaker 1 I'm only sleeping. 00;01;19;02 - 00;01;19;20 Speaker 3 That's all I know. 00;01;19;29 - 00;01;37;09 Speaker 1 Okay, so I now see this. Like I see this, this angle that people are playing right where they're doing the I'm only sleeping thing and then they leave like some random shit playing on the background and they're basically banking off of the ad creative that's being sent out to the viewers that are in there at that point in time. 00;01;37;16 - 00;01;39;04 Speaker 4 Like it sounds about right. 00;01;39;18 - 00;01;54;02 Speaker 1 I mean, is that like, I mean, that's like the newest thing because I only reason I say is because I have a friend of my wife I've talked about before. The guy that does is the Diablo Speed Runner and I mean, I know he's just like following Sue because I know he's not the type of person to be like, Oh, you guys want to watch me sleep, you know? 00;01;54;02 - 00;02;09;20 Speaker 1 But like, he's banking on it right now. So I just see it as like the new angle that people are playing. And it's just so I don't know. I mean, it is what it is. It's kind of smart. But at the same time, I'm like, Really? That's where we're going. 00;02;09;20 - 00;02;15;23 Speaker 4 So can't can the player hate the game? You got to make money and make money do it. You can, you know. Yeah. 00;02;15;26 - 00;02;29;09 Speaker 1 So the plan is that from now on, the O.G. podcast has to be live and it has to be on always on Marvel Strike for streamers. 00;02;29;09 - 00;02;30;23 Speaker 3 I mean, like what what. 00;02;31;26 - 00;02;35;14 Speaker 1 Your what you guys are like. So I was joking but you know that like. 00;02;36;13 - 00;02;37;07 Speaker 3 But not really. 00;02;37;12 - 00;03;01;23 Speaker 1 No we'd like that's what these people are doing is they're like they're, they're, they're going under the category of I'm only sleeping, but then they're like playing like videos or they have like this word scramble game that they'll play and the chat will like sit there and play the world's word scramble game. And they're they're essentially banking off of the ads that are going out to the people in chat every hour that are like on the auto thing. 00;03;01;26 - 00;03;02;14 Speaker 1 I was I was. 00;03;02;14 - 00;03;02;17 Speaker 2 Just. 00;03;03;09 - 00;03;05;22 Speaker 1 Merely joking about us doing it. Oh. 00;03;05;25 - 00;03;10;07 Speaker 3 Oh, I see. So they have like something that says I'm asleep with like a banner and then it's just live. 00;03;10;13 - 00;03;15;03 Speaker 1 Yeah, that's it. Like, literally. Or if you're like one of the girls, like Amouranth or something, you put a camera. 00;03;15;05 - 00;03;15;21 Speaker 3 Actually sleep. 00;03;15;21 - 00;03;33;17 Speaker 1 In your ass while you're sleeping. And people I don't get like thousands of people will watch it and sit in the chat and talk. And it's just like, okay, I mean, you know, I like Dom said, can't hate the player, hate the game. You are not the video games round. 00;03;33;22 - 00;03;35;10 Speaker 2 Around front burner engineer. 00;03;35;11 - 00;03;37;21 Speaker 3 Amount. Oh yeah. The intro. I forgot. 00;03;38;07 - 00;03;44;20 Speaker 4 Did you like, run a marathon this morning? Like, what is going on? You do like me? Yeah. 00;03;44;21 - 00;03;46;16 Speaker 1 You're like, not. I'm not stoned right now. 00;03;47;09 - 00;03;48;09 Speaker 2 Got it. Okay. 00;03;48;18 - 00;03;50;20 Speaker 1 Why am I a little more energetic than usual? 00;03;50;20 - 00;03;52;00 Speaker 2 Very much. I went to bed. 00;03;52;05 - 00;03;59;03 Speaker 1 I went to bed early last night, and I didn't smoke weed this morning. So I definitely have more energy than usual. I'm trying to smoke less. Sweet guys. 00;03;59;09 - 00;03;59;27 Speaker 4 Got it, got it. 00;03;59;27 - 00;04;04;00 Speaker 1 Got it. Mike, is that okay? Okay, then I can be less zombified. 00;04;04;09 - 00;04;04;19 Speaker 2 Dude. 00;04;04;19 - 00;04;06;29 Speaker 3 Totally you do you. 00;04;06;29 - 00;04;10;10 Speaker 4 But yeah, I feel yourself, you know? 00;04;10;10 - 00;04;12;11 Speaker 3 All right, I guess I'll get into the intro. 00;04;13;00 - 00;04;13;24 Speaker 4 I guess. I guess. 00;04;14;02 - 00;04;15;10 Speaker 2 I don't know. 00;04;15;12 - 00;04;50;09 Speaker 3 Now, what's up, everybody? Welcome to the issue is gaming podcast. I'm your host. 00;04;50;09 - 00;04;52;15 Speaker 2 What's why you smirking for? 00;04;54;13 - 00;05;03;13 Speaker 1 All right, you know what? Hold on, hold on. I'm I got a hold on me. Let me I got to I'm going to call my private jet so I can fly up to New York City and air. 00;05;03;18 - 00;05;28;13 Speaker 3 Drop in the artificiality pod podcasting toast. I am your host of Ash joined as always by Ashley sleepy pastrami and chef I have way too much energy pronto by this week. This is episode 86. Thank you very much for joining us at the dead a couple of days after Thanksgiving. For those paying attention in other parts of the country or world or wherever, it doesn't matter. 00;05;29;21 - 00;05;40;10 Speaker 3 We are here to talk about what we're playing, what we're looking forward to, and and a little bit of gaming news anyway. 00;05;40;12 - 00;05;42;25 Speaker 4 Oh, I forgot the download God of War Ragnarok. 00;05;43;04 - 00;05;47;10 Speaker 2 Let's what are you doing for life? Forget to download God. 00;05;47;10 - 00;05;49;17 Speaker 3 Of war and do it now. Just don't don't do it now. 00;05;50;05 - 00;05;59;08 Speaker 4 I can't do it right now. I will do it when I leave here to go train. I will leave it up to. I'm sure it's a giant download. 00;05;59;08 - 00;06;01;26 Speaker 1 It is, it's like 40 or 50 gigs I think. 00;06;01;26 - 00;06;03;09 Speaker 4 Yeah, I will do that. 00;06;03;26 - 00;06;05;15 Speaker 3 It's happened. I've got to go for it. 00;06;05;25 - 00;06;07;00 Speaker 2 I will. I will do it. 00;06;07;04 - 00;06;11;25 Speaker 1 You want to hop, like ready to talk to talking about the game on the Temple Mount? 00;06;11;25 - 00;06;12;04 Speaker 2 Yup. 00;06;12;11 - 00;06;17;05 Speaker 4 I don't want I don't want you guys to say anything besides if the game is good or not. But I know the game is good. 00;06;17;11 - 00;06;36;26 Speaker 1 Well, there's nothing. Okay, so there's nothing for me to reveal that would be a spoiler, because I'm probably like, I want to say I'm like 30 or 40 hours into the game, and I feel like I'm like 20% into the game based off like the map size and the remaining goals that you have, like the different object, like. 00;06;37;18 - 00;06;39;28 Speaker 4 It's a map objective. Like the ghost didn't really shit. 00;06;39;28 - 00;06;42;29 Speaker 1 Yeah, I didn't really play all the way hellfire or. 00;06;42;29 - 00;06;53;15 Speaker 4 Wait, wait, hold up. Sorry, Judge, I don't mean to interrupt you, but obviously the hellfire, the chat and what feels like a long time is life. Continue. Sorry, I just want to call out that our biggest fans in the chat. 00;06;54;08 - 00;07;16;02 Speaker 1 Yeah. So anyways it I didn't really beat God of war for but it the game definitely feels like a sequel to it in many ways that I had to go back and watch the actual like catch up. I guess you could say they have like a catch up that you can do where like a story we can recap, recap. 00;07;16;07 - 00;07;36;16 Speaker 1 So and I would, I would highly suggest because the game definitely like launches right into the storyline, which is phenomenal, like absolutely phenomenal. The gameplay is flawless. Like there's no, I have literally zero complaints about the game other than I suck, I can answer hard. 00;07;36;28 - 00;07;41;12 Speaker 2 Yeah dude you with the first. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's usually great. 00;07;41;12 - 00;07;49;05 Speaker 3 I, I sucked up my ego and I went down to give me a story because I was just like, there is just certain times writers. Like, there's little mini bosses. Yeah, a lot more mini bosses. 00;07;49;05 - 00;07;50;29 Speaker 4 Yeah, that's cool. I like the mini boss aspect. 00;07;51;08 - 00;07;53;08 Speaker 3 I was just like, I cannot. I cannot beat these guys. 00;07;53;08 - 00;08;11;28 Speaker 1 You have to learn how to use the skills and there are certain skills that counter certain enemy types. Like I realize like there's one area where you can, you can throw your ax at the wall and it will like if you aim it, it'll have like a blue or a pink arrow and it'll go back to the like they say it will bounce off. 00;08;12;03 - 00;08;28;13 Speaker 1 And then if it hits a target, it will do like a circular spinning attack thing. Well, my best friend and I are both like, fuck this. Like, what? Am I ever going to actually do this? Well, I actually tried doing it and it insta put him into stagger mode. So I was like, Oh, well, you know, here I was struggling to fight these guys. 00;08;28;13 - 00;08;32;13 Speaker 1 And the whole time I was really just supposed to like throw light line up the ax, like. 00;08;32;25 - 00;08;34;20 Speaker 2 Good. We are saying. 00;08;34;26 - 00;08;45;21 Speaker 1 As I'm saying is like I didn't really play for so I didn't really know that like a lot of these mechanics in the game are, there literally are certain ways to counter certain enemies that's new. 00;08;45;21 - 00;08;47;02 Speaker 3 That's not that wasn't in the first. 00;08;47;02 - 00;08;48;10 Speaker 1 Oh so that wasn't the first one. 00;08;48;11 - 00;08;49;11 Speaker 3 That wasn't like the other. 00;08;49;12 - 00;09;11;17 Speaker 1 The other thing is that there's there's the dark elves in the light elves, like if you use the, the fist in the shield as opposed to using the dual blades or the ax. Oh my God, ten times better. But it took me a while. It took me throwing my ax as somebody and forgetting to recall it and then starting to punch them in the face and seeing like because. 00;09;12;03 - 00;09;13;00 Speaker 4 You're punching them. 00;09;13;02 - 00;09;27;00 Speaker 1 Yeah. You see, like chunks. They're stagger but and they, but they were like really hard for me to kill. I was losing to them and then, like, I was getting frustrated and I just like, was like, fuck it, let me throw my ax at one of them and see how much does and I forgot to recall it. And I was just punching and I'm like, oh my God. 00;09;27;00 - 00;09;42;20 Speaker 1 Like, this is the way to beat these dudes. Like, so, I mean, I'm just learning as I go. Like, there's definitely fights I've lost on where I'm like, Fuck, I suck at this game. And then I'm like, Oh, wait a minute. There was like, actually a, like, Cheers mechanic to beat this guy. I just had to figure it out first. 00;09;42;24 - 00;09;59;13 Speaker 4 Yeah, maybe not even necessarily like shrimp cheese, but it seems like there's more because like in the previous game, it was really just where they fire you's ice acts where they ice used their their blades, the chaos. It seems like there is more intentionality there. 00;09;59;24 - 00;10;00;11 Speaker 1 That's still me. 00;10;00;11 - 00;10;06;27 Speaker 4 No, I'm sure it is. But it seems like there may be more some more intentionality with why you would do certain things. 00;10;07;05 - 00;10;09;04 Speaker 2 Yeah, 100% or whatever. 00;10;09;05 - 00;10;10;14 Speaker 1 I mean, it's just I mean. 00;10;10;15 - 00;10;17;24 Speaker 4 The, I mean the download I just honestly like I keep forgetting it. I have to find all the because I put the PlayStation away until I find the cable. 00;10;17;26 - 00;10;30;12 Speaker 1 So yeah the storylines phenomenal man like I it's up there. It's up there in those games like Last of US where I can put the controller down and I just sit back and watch it and I feel like I'm watching like a really good movie, you know? 00;10;30;18 - 00;10;32;28 Speaker 3 Yeah, I haven't skipped a single line of dialog and. 00;10;32;28 - 00;10;33;19 Speaker 2 There's no. 00;10;33;26 - 00;10;34;14 Speaker 4 That tracks. 00;10;34;21 - 00;10;43;00 Speaker 1 What's, what's the one guy's name that's that's the like the Hammer Smiths friend Brock I think is his name. 00;10;43;00 - 00;10;45;20 Speaker 4 Brock. And they're Big Brother three Rocket Cinder. 00;10;45;21 - 00;10;47;10 Speaker 1 Okay, so again, I didn't play the first one. 00;10;47;11 - 00;10;47;27 Speaker 4 Very blue when. 00;10;48;10 - 00;10;49;25 Speaker 1 Brock is fucking hilarious. 00;10;49;25 - 00;10;53;14 Speaker 2 Like well you didn't play for. I played like. 00;10;53;14 - 00;10;58;24 Speaker 1 I played like half of it. I really got it. I really didn't cut into it as much as I should have. Should I just. 00;10;59;01 - 00;10;59;21 Speaker 3 Go back and play it? 00;11;00;13 - 00;11;01;07 Speaker 2 Is honestly. 00;11;01;07 - 00;11;03;25 Speaker 4 Very good. Like, yeah, no, I'm good. 00;11;04;03 - 00;11;30;28 Speaker 1 I always knew it would be. It's just, you know me, I'm a heroin. Excuse me. A wow addict. Yeah, but no, the game. Game, dude, I can't even I love I love doing all the exploration stuff and I love side quests. I like the fact that the out of the RPG element to it, I started already upgrading all my gear because that's one of the platinum trophy requirements is that you have like every item upgraded in the game. 00;11;31;10 - 00;11;31;28 Speaker 1 So. 00;11;32;14 - 00;11;33;00 Speaker 3 Oh really. 00;11;33;00 - 00;11;56;04 Speaker 1 Yeah. The, the replayability. But behind it I find is phenomenal. And also I also think that it's cool that the gear isn't just, hey, let me so I could distract by the chat. Apparently you have superhuman abilities to go from clean shaven to, well, not shared out. 00;11;56;15 - 00;12;00;14 Speaker 4 Yeah, I. It's not really a beard. I just. I am a. 00;12;00;14 - 00;12;01;23 Speaker 1 Argentine stallion, man. 00;12;02;09 - 00;12;22;11 Speaker 4 I grow hair very fast. This is why I enjoy being clean shaven, but at the same time, I don't usually, like, go to full. Full, like hard, clean shaven because it just comes back in like a day. I mean, I shaved fully for the day. I did full, you know, with the razor and everything shaved, but it. 00;12;22;11 - 00;12;31;24 Speaker 1 Could be worse. You could not be able to grow a beard, period. That's true. You could be one of those people that has to like buy the gel and the rolling thing on their face to try to help their. 00;12;32;11 - 00;12;32;18 Speaker 2 Well. 00;12;33;04 - 00;12;36;23 Speaker 1 Beard pores open up. And the thing. 00;12;37;01 - 00;12;38;04 Speaker 4 Yes, the beard pores. 00;12;38;08 - 00;12;40;14 Speaker 1 Thing I get ads for. 00;12;40;16 - 00;12;41;08 Speaker 4 You're actually that wrong? 00;12;41;08 - 00;12;41;25 Speaker 1 No, no. Why? 00;12;41;26 - 00;12;43;24 Speaker 4 Beard pauses as a career, right? 00;12;43;24 - 00;13;09;13 Speaker 1 No, I know. I get I get ads for this shit all the time and I'm like, I can grow a full beard. I do not understand why I have ads for this stuff. Speaking of beards, criticism, mean beard. Okay, this is this is one thing that I have to say that I think is so freaking badass about game development in general is like Kratos looks old in this game, you know, I'm saying like you can actually tell that he's starting to. 00;13;09;14 - 00;13;37;04 Speaker 1 Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So like, and I think that's fucking awesome because without just flat out making him look like I'm like 90 years old, you know, they kind of like subtly make him a little bit look aged throughout the game as he goes, which is so cool because I mean, again, I don't know what's going to happen at the end, but you know, in idiom or no with these games so if you're Joel in the first 5 minutes of Larsson's to spoiler alert for anybody who hasn't played a games now for like two years I don't care. 00;13;37;10 - 00;13;55;00 Speaker 1 But you know, I just find that a lot of these game studios are having to do things like bring on a new again, this is I don't know what happens the storyline. I just feel like if they're making him look old at some point in time, he's going to stop being the god of war and only try to. 00;13;55;00 - 00;14;16;14 Speaker 3 Destroy this last blast of the the Norse. Oh, they did not trilogy. This is the last of the Norse. Yes, that's it. I'm. I'm curious words cause I haven't finished the game yet so I don't really know. I'm, I just got the I want to say I just got the I won't say what it is, but I just got the last thing that allows you like, you know, I've seen like the, the, like the, the geyser type yellow. 00;14;16;14 - 00;14;17;12 Speaker 1 Yes, yes. 00;14;17;19 - 00;14;20;11 Speaker 3 So I just got the the thing to be able to use this. 00;14;20;11 - 00;14;31;21 Speaker 1 Year ahead of me, which is which is sometimes why? Because I feel like you have definitely played it less than me, but I think I just spend too much time being like, ooh, squirrel, I'm stone. Let me look at that. 00;14;31;21 - 00;14;33;13 Speaker 3 Oh, I do. But I. 00;14;34;07 - 00;14;34;20 Speaker 2 See. 00;14;35;06 - 00;14;52;16 Speaker 3 I pretty much spent the last two days doing nothing but playing it because I've been meaning to just catch up on stuff and stuff. So it's just been go, go, go, go, go for me for the past two weeks. And it will be for the next two weeks. So. Right. I'm just like I'm trying to I'm trying to beat it and get the platinum before crisis gear. 00;14;52;19 - 00;14;53;13 Speaker 3 So yeah. 00;14;53;13 - 00;15;05;01 Speaker 1 I'm sure you are. I'm sure you are. It was funny. I had a I had a moment where I was sharing screen sharing with my friend Michael because he's way ahead of me. And he was trying to he was just like helping me get through some of the puzzles. Like. 00;15;05;12 - 00;15;07;15 Speaker 3 That's a thing you can do. It's really awesome. 00;15;07;15 - 00;15;08;28 Speaker 2 Yeah. It's, you know, I'm not even. 00;15;08;28 - 00;15;13;12 Speaker 1 Allowed the the voice controls come out of the controller and I mean, it doesn't have. 00;15;13;12 - 00;15;14;01 Speaker 2 Any. 00;15;14;14 - 00;15;25;23 Speaker 1 Like it's there's no static, there's no background noise. I was blown away like actually how like seamless it was because it caught me by surprise. I was on the phone, we were in PlayStation chat and then it swapped over and I was like. 00;15;25;29 - 00;15;26;15 Speaker 2 The fuck is. 00;15;26;15 - 00;15;36;22 Speaker 1 It coming out of my controller? But anyways, he was, he was watching me play and he'd be like, you know, dude, what are you doing? Like, what are you looking at? 00;15;36;22 - 00;15;39;11 Speaker 2 And I was just like, Bro, look at this. Look at the way that the. 00;15;39;11 - 00;15;45;07 Speaker 1 Clouds in the trees in the and it's like he's like, Dude, what are you doing, man? Like, play the game. I'm like, you know. 00;15;46;01 - 00;15;48;18 Speaker 2 Take a step to appreciate, like, what these. 00;15;48;18 - 00;16;07;28 Speaker 1 People are working on. You know, don't just, like, fly through the game and just make blood fly everywhere. Like, there's more to it than this. That, like, you know, that there's some dude at the studio that was, like, super proud of how long it took them to design some element in the game. And I want to try to appreciate that in your game like this, you know, so I like, like little things like the. 00;16;09;13 - 00;16;10;08 Speaker 2 I love how. 00;16;11;04 - 00;16;24;05 Speaker 1 Memory like sits on the back and like we'll actually look around and like look at things. I think it's just so cool. Like there's so many elements about the game that they actually didn't overlook and, you know, somebody's giving us. 00;16;24;09 - 00;16;26;09 Speaker 4 Your man great reviews we got to work for right now. 00;16;27;18 - 00;16;29;05 Speaker 1 Why is that, like the same thing that they do? 00;16;29;05 - 00;16;32;23 Speaker 4 Yeah, because you're just it's just funny because you didn't play the fourth one, so. 00;16;32;28 - 00;16;35;01 Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. Well, that's true. It's true. 00;16;35;02 - 00;16;38;08 Speaker 4 It's just it's like. It's like I'm not really making like it's it's. 00;16;38;08 - 00;16;44;17 Speaker 1 It's a testament to the fact that they stuck true to what they know that their fans like and they double down on it. Right. 00;16;45;26 - 00;16;46;04 Speaker 2 Yeah. 00;16;46;23 - 00;16;53;17 Speaker 1 I, yes. I mean I've heard people complain and say like I feel like I'm playing Ghana for 4.1 instead of God where five and I'm like. 00;16;54;22 - 00;16;55;14 Speaker 2 Is it a good game? 00;16;55;14 - 00;16;59;06 Speaker 3 That's that's why we want it. Right. More of the same. That's what anybody wanted. It was. It was. 00;16;59;14 - 00;17;06;29 Speaker 4 I think. Yeah, it definitely is. Sometimes like the next Zelda. I don't really imagine I don't really expect it to be. 00;17;07;26 - 00;17;09;18 Speaker 1 A mean like a breath of wild too. 00;17;10;01 - 00;17;13;17 Speaker 4 Well, yeah. So the next one is it's like tiers of. 00;17;14;05 - 00;17;14;26 Speaker 2 What's called. 00;17;15;13 - 00;17;16;07 Speaker 3 Tiers of liberal. 00;17;17;09 - 00;17;18;08 Speaker 4 Tiers of the kingdom. 00;17;19;11 - 00;17;20;15 Speaker 3 And like my of is. 00;17;20;15 - 00;17;47;03 Speaker 4 Good tiers thinking, I don't expect tiers of the kingdom to be a hard sequel. I expected to be built there just to build off of how great Breath of the Wild was. And that's kind of what I assumed with Ragnarok, too. Like, I don't want I didn't really want too many things changed up from right firm. Got to work for it to be honest because got to work for was it a perfect game you know. 00;17;47;07 - 00;17;52;04 Speaker 3 Yet when they go to the God of war six whatever ends up being absolutely changed up. But like yeah. 00;17;52;12 - 00;17;54;29 Speaker 4 Especially if you're leaving the Norse area, right? 00;17;54;29 - 00;17;58;23 Speaker 3 Yeah. If you're sticking with this tone like you're not going to switch the Leviathan ax for like, you know. 00;17;59;01 - 00;18;02;23 Speaker 4 Hatchet the Israel. Yeah, dual hatchet, right? Yeah. 00;18;02;25 - 00;18;03;02 Speaker 2 I mean. 00;18;03;13 - 00;18;05;09 Speaker 3 If anything it would be cool. It splits in two and. 00;18;05;09 - 00;18;06;13 Speaker 2 Then he has a totally if. 00;18;06;13 - 00;18;10;15 Speaker 1 Anything Atreus would be the next. I mean I would just make sense right? 00;18;10;15 - 00;18;11;16 Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah. 00;18;12;06 - 00;18;19;22 Speaker 1 Following in the footsteps of the God of war. Finding out the way you don't think I can't. The joke which shows that. 00;18;20;08 - 00;18;23;02 Speaker 3 It's okay that it's over when it went over your head. 00;18;23;08 - 00;18;23;14 Speaker 2 And when. 00;18;23;23 - 00;18;24;06 Speaker 4 You whenever. 00;18;24;06 - 00;18;25;03 Speaker 3 Too big brain for you. 00;18;26;04 - 00;18;26;10 Speaker 2 That's. 00;18;26;11 - 00;18;28;22 Speaker 4 I don't know necessarily what it was also. 00;18;29;28 - 00;18;36;23 Speaker 3 Sorry to dumb right but yeah without getting too spoilery. 00;18;36;23 - 00;18;37;20 Speaker 4 Tumbleweed moment. 00;18;37;20 - 00;18;38;05 Speaker 3 Spoiler. 00;18;38;05 - 00;18;42;12 Speaker 4 At first I time shatter sorry continue talk. 00;18;42;12 - 00;19;03;27 Speaker 3 About the the next. I just really enjoyed I think I really like how there's more exploration, there's more things to do. It's not just while the first one, you know, got to work out really like new and fresh as a breath of fresh air with the exploration. I think they really doubled down on it this time around. Just gave you more stuff to do in the open world ish areas. 00;19;03;27 - 00;19;11;14 Speaker 3 Yeah. And so far I haven't normally with like open world games again. So I'm like, I got to do this and I have to go that I haven't had that yet. 00;19;11;15 - 00;19;31;23 Speaker 1 No. You know, it's not overwhelming and there's not like a lot of side quests that make you like people like me that have total A.D.D., like tumbleweed moments like this. The chatter just talked about the game doesn't feel like like if you, if you if I go to do a side quest, it's like the side quest is I go do it and then I'm done. 00;19;31;23 - 00;19;55;03 Speaker 1 I'm back. On the main storyline. There isn't 15 side quest for me to do that, lead to more side quests, to lead to more side quests. And then you spend like a day and a half doing side quests. You're like, Wait, what was I even doing in the main storyline game? Because that's what happens to me and that's why I never played like Ghosts Ashima or Red Dead Redemption two because I just know that those are games where somebody with aid will get lost and never, ever, ever finish the main storyline. 00;19;55;03 - 00;19;58;05 Speaker 1 So this game does not have that same problem. 00;19;58;09 - 00;20;05;28 Speaker 3 So I, yeah. I it's going to be, it's going to be interesting game of the year. Yeah. 00;20;06;05 - 00;20;07;01 Speaker 2 I mean. 00;20;07;13 - 00;20;24;16 Speaker 3 Which reminds me, I call Xiang, she is down for it and oh yeah. So yeah it's going to be, it's going to be a tough one in my opinion. But the thing that I really like is like even with those side quests, stuff that you can do, I like the fact that they the straight out call out in the game. 00;20;24;17 - 00;20;47;18 Speaker 3 I don't remember if they did this and got to where for where they said, okay, like we can continue on the mission or there might be some extra stuff if you want to stick around and go find it like which I like a little bit. And with that as well that there is the thing that I really like, which is like there might be some conversations that have happened with the there might have been some conversations happen in the main storyline. 00;20;47;18 - 00;20;50;15 Speaker 3 And then while you're doing the side quests stuff like they're talking about it, they're talking time. 00;20;50;18 - 00;20;51;04 Speaker 4 That's nice. 00;20;51;10 - 00;20;51;22 Speaker 2 Yeah. 00;20;51;24 - 00;21;10;29 Speaker 3 Well, there is something where, like, Brock tells a riddle to Mia and Amir can't get it. And like, Amir is obsessing over everything. And like I'm doing, I'm going like backtracking into, like, some older places, like to pick up on like some of the other. Now that I have that, that thing that allows you to go like, All right, cool, I'm going to go back and let's see what I can do. 00;21;11;03 - 00;21;21;08 Speaker 3 And like, I'm in the older, like, I'm, I'm like smart online, whatever, and they're like still talking about that stuff. So it's not just realm specific. It's like wherever timeline in the game is huge, it's really wild. 00;21;21;17 - 00;21;36;18 Speaker 1 The the conversations they have in general are great. But the my favorite was like when you finish, when you first get tier tiers, like, hey, I see an opening over here. And so me being. 00;21;36;18 - 00;21;39;20 Speaker 4 Used here, who is that? Is that a character that's not come up in the game yet? 00;21;40;18 - 00;21;41;22 Speaker 1 I don't know. Is it. 00;21;42;00 - 00;21;43;07 Speaker 3 Yeah. Don't get spoilery. 00;21;44;04 - 00;21;46;12 Speaker 4 He does. He didn't realize he's a spoiler. Yeah. Spoiler. 00;21;46;16 - 00;21;47;00 Speaker 3 That's a spoiler. 00;21;47;01 - 00;21;51;03 Speaker 4 Here's Dier's out in the fourth game. It's okay. 00;21;51;13 - 00;21;54;28 Speaker 1 So anyways, there's this character that you have to summon and so anyways. 00;21;54;29 - 00;21;57;12 Speaker 3 Do that's what you just do. That's well as I'd say it does not. 00;21;57;12 - 00;22;16;05 Speaker 1 So there's, there's a character that's running around and he like runs off this other way and he's like, Hey, what do you, what do you do in openings over here? And Atreus is like, Oh, he does that sometimes. He'll just, he'll just go over there and then like the other time, it's like, Hey, Kratos, come over here. And it's like, No, there's a chest over there. 00;22;16;05 - 00;22;28;24 Speaker 1 Oh, okay. We'll be over here when you're done. This is kind of funny that they acknowledge that you're, like, definitely going a different way than where the storyline is supposed to take you because you're trying to explore and go get things and they talk about it. 00;22;30;15 - 00;22;37;09 Speaker 2 Dammit, here. Okay. Okay. I just. I just. I guess I just. This was the fourth game. 00;22;37;09 - 00;22;41;12 Speaker 1 I know. And now I'm realizing that I'm a sucker and I got to go back and play the other one. 00;22;41;12 - 00;22;45;02 Speaker 2 So yeah. Woops. Yeah. My first. 00;22;45;03 - 00;22;46;19 Speaker 3 Time. So it's very, it's very good. 00;22;46;21 - 00;22;51;28 Speaker 2 I mean at least, at least I yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, that's all right. At least it's not. 00;22;51;28 - 00;22;56;06 Speaker 1 Like into the game spoiler or anything that's like pretty, pretty frickin early on. 00;22;56;20 - 00;23;03;00 Speaker 3 You. Yeah. I thought Dom left after that conversation. 00;23;03;00 - 00;23;03;19 Speaker 1 I was like, so. 00;23;03;19 - 00;23;05;24 Speaker 4 Bad Juju did not want to be in my room. 00;23;06;08 - 00;23;07;19 Speaker 3 So I thought you just left after you like. 00;23;07;27 - 00;23;09;04 Speaker 2 Oh, no. 00;23;09;04 - 00;23;10;24 Speaker 4 I didn't even realize she was in my room, but she. 00;23;10;24 - 00;23;11;06 Speaker 1 Was like, you're. 00;23;11;07 - 00;23;12;23 Speaker 2 Scratching out of the spoiler. 00;23;13;05 - 00;23;19;06 Speaker 4 Yeah. Got to go and go, boys. That were really pissed me off, you know what I mean? Now, it's not a big deal. 00;23;19;20 - 00;23;22;03 Speaker 2 I actually, I. I think it would be a. 00;23;22;03 - 00;23;22;21 Speaker 1 Bigger deal. 00;23;22;21 - 00;23;25;07 Speaker 4 If I. You. I don't mind spoilers. I just don't like spoilers too much. 00;23;27;00 - 00;23;27;09 Speaker 2 Yeah. 00;23;27;26 - 00;23;33;24 Speaker 4 I'm not like it's like I ruin the game for me that you told me that, you know, now the other people that are watching, I can't speak for them. 00;23;33;29 - 00;23;38;04 Speaker 1 I would hope, you know, because I mean, that's like one of the first things that takes place. So. 00;23;38;04 - 00;23;41;02 Speaker 2 Oh, really? Then yeah. 00;23;41;03 - 00;23;46;27 Speaker 3 You're you're going to miss you missed the whole big reveal the end of four that you've already learned about this point. 00;23;47;04 - 00;23;48;15 Speaker 2 Me. Yeah. 00;23;49;12 - 00;23;52;18 Speaker 1 I have no idea what you're talking about and I'm not going to comment. 00;23;52;18 - 00;23;53;03 Speaker 2 On what you have. 00;23;53;07 - 00;24;00;06 Speaker 4 You had, I mean yeah. If you watched the recap you well, you watch a recap. It's not going to be as big of a spoiler. 00;24;00;18 - 00;24;05;06 Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah. The big thing at the end of four was that Petraeus is Loki. 00;24;05;23 - 00;24;07;15 Speaker 1 Oh oh. Okay. 00;24;07;21 - 00;24;09;07 Speaker 3 And they say that in the recap anyway. Yeah. 00;24;09;10 - 00;24;16;15 Speaker 1 So well that's like I mean he starts talking about it in like the frickin intro. So I mean, I would, I would assume that's not a spoiler. I mean. 00;24;16;16 - 00;24;20;22 Speaker 3 I mean, it it is because that was the big reveal at the end of the game. Oh, that's who he is. 00;24;20;22 - 00;24;25;08 Speaker 1 Well, I mean, the game starts out around. I mean, I mean, they're still trying to figure out if he is Loki or not, right? 00;24;25;08 - 00;24;26;13 Speaker 3 Yeah, exactly. Yeah. 00;24;26;22 - 00;24;27;14 Speaker 2 Oh, well. 00;24;27;22 - 00;24;29;16 Speaker 4 Yeah. Let's just let's just stop. 00;24;30;11 - 00;24;35;26 Speaker 2 Yeah, it's my intro. I have. No, let me let me get to the fucking intro. 00;24;36;02 - 00;24;39;08 Speaker 3 That's not our fault for you didn't download it and play it, if that's okay. 00;24;39;08 - 00;24;45;26 Speaker 4 Listen, if it was two years from now. Sure. Okay. It just happened like a week or two ago. The game came out. Relax. 00;24;45;26 - 00;24;46;27 Speaker 3 All right. What's up? Hey, at. 00;24;46;27 - 00;24;48;17 Speaker 1 Least I didn't do drop out. Spoiler. 00;24;49;19 - 00;24;52;07 Speaker 4 That's it. Doesn't matter. Nothing matters. Everything's okay. 00;24;54;03 - 00;24;56;22 Speaker 3 This means I'm going to have to stop the. Stop the party. Go play the game. Yeah. 00;24;56;26 - 00;24;58;09 Speaker 4 Just clearly. Yes. 00;24;58;19 - 00;25;00;05 Speaker 3 I mean, obviously that. 00;25;02;13 - 00;25;08;00 Speaker 1 Dom, you can put me in you can put me on a headlock on the third when we fight also. 00;25;08;00 - 00;25;17;28 Speaker 4 Yeah. You're not a let me say you're not because you were coming the previous weekend which I'm not in town for, but now you're coming the weekend. I am here. So, yeah. 00;25;17;28 - 00;25;25;06 Speaker 1 We, we just we decided that it wasn't I wanted to spend, like, my actual birthday with my parents, so we decided that we can be better. 00;25;25;29 - 00;25;28;00 Speaker 2 Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. 00;25;28;04 - 00;25;40;24 Speaker 1 I finally get to meet these two guys. For anybody that you know, that's a listener. I've never met Ashley and Charlie. I said, Ashley and Charlie. Dom and Charlie. Ashley and Ash Bashi. 00;25;40;24 - 00;25;41;19 Speaker 4 Vashti Yeah. 00;25;41;23 - 00;25;42;18 Speaker 1 Ashley Pastrami. 00;25;43;15 - 00;25;47;14 Speaker 3 That was, that was my account name when I took our names and their stuff. Account. 00;25;47;15 - 00;25;48;07 Speaker 1 Oh, that's right. 00;25;48;10 - 00;25;49;01 Speaker 2 That's right. 00;25;49;16 - 00;25;51;10 Speaker 1 Vashti Pastrami. 00;25;51;10 - 00;25;57;02 Speaker 3 But yeah. Yeah. Oh, very good. Well, I don't know. I don't know if we'll be able to do an in-person pod. I don't know. 00;25;57;02 - 00;25;58;00 Speaker 1 Probably right now. 00;25;58;06 - 00;26;01;21 Speaker 3 Probably not, because that's a that's a big giant asset trying to figure that out. And I don't know. 00;26;02;02 - 00;26;03;02 Speaker 2 What we'll do, like we. 00;26;03;02 - 00;26;07;26 Speaker 4 Always do is the the sports bar near me, Brooklyn. They have podcast rooms. 00;26;08;02 - 00;26;10;03 Speaker 2 Oh shit. To rent. Oh, really? 00;26;10;03 - 00;26;11;12 Speaker 1 Yeah, actually, I want you to sing it. 00;26;11;13 - 00;26;12;17 Speaker 4 You can scream at it, too. 00;26;12;21 - 00;26;16;13 Speaker 1 I wanted to go to that E sports bar. So because. 00;26;16;17 - 00;26;17;02 Speaker 2 I mean, there's a. 00;26;17;02 - 00;26;27;17 Speaker 4 Few there's actually a few really cool ones. There's one in Manhattan called O's Studios or just O's, rather. And then there's one in near me called Your Heart is Wild. 00;26;27;17 - 00;26;27;23 Speaker 1 Right. 00;26;27;23 - 00;26;29;05 Speaker 4 Now. I know. I just woke up. 00;26;29;11 - 00;26;35;23 Speaker 1 Dude, I'm jealous. How long you're here? Is there a long hair? Dude, Charlie's, like, grow hair. 00;26;35;23 - 00;26;38;11 Speaker 2 So I say. 00;26;38;11 - 00;26;39;12 Speaker 4 I put it back on voicemail. 00;26;39;12 - 00;26;42;18 Speaker 2 I feel bad. But what I. 00;26;42;26 - 00;27;10;04 Speaker 4 Is like, if we if we could do something like that. But yeah, the, the one in Manhattan is a little more like I don't want to say like hip, but it kind of is the one in Brooklyn is way more like low key and like chill, you know. So yeah, I just have I haven't actually haven't been to the one in Manhattan, to be honest, but I wouldn't mind checking it out. 00;27;10;08 - 00;27;20;00 Speaker 1 I haven't been to any of them. Obviously, I'm pretty stoked to have like cats, deli meat sweats and I'm going to go. 00;27;20;00 - 00;27;23;05 Speaker 4 Are you saying you be ready for that line? Because I'm tough. I've been. 00;27;23;05 - 00;27;26;26 Speaker 1 Told. I told my buddy told me I should expect to wait an hour and a half to 2 hours. 00;27;27;10 - 00;27;28;08 Speaker 4 At the very least. 00;27;28;08 - 00;27;47;19 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fine. I mean, dude, hey, I'm a foodie. Like, my girl is a foodie. I mean, I'm not. I'm I've never been in New York. It's like I would prefer to go to Carnegie Deli, but I know it doesn't exist anymore. So, yeah, my dad is just mostly about like my dad telling me, like, hey, you know, you should go check out Cass. 00;27;47;19 - 00;27;51;25 Speaker 1 When I was your age, I remember going to New York for the first time, and I had a Yeah. 00;27;51;25 - 00;27;54;29 Speaker 2 Yeah. 00;27;54;29 - 00;28;00;25 Speaker 1 Yeah. Pretty stoked. Anyways, what are the video games that you've been playing? Anybody else? Anybody been playing? Anything else? 00;28;01;24 - 00;28;05;11 Speaker 3 A boatload of Marvel Snap. 00;28;06;00 - 00;28;09;04 Speaker 1 You know, Marvel snap is fire like that game fire. 00;28;09;10 - 00;28;10;02 Speaker 2 You know. And I'm actually. 00;28;10;02 - 00;28;32;29 Speaker 1 Surprised at how popular it is as a streaming game compared to a lot of other card games that have tried to launch. It's actually pretty successful. The game is great. Yeah. I mean, I think it's I think the best part about the game is the fact that as it goes along, it just kind of gets better with the decks and the countering of decks and things like that. 00;28;32;29 - 00;28;53;14 Speaker 1 Yes. Know I myself, I mean, it's obviously, you know, as you get further in the game, you're going to have more cards and more. But I mean, like if I'm playing Hearthstone in my experience is playing Hearthstone. It was always like, Oh well you just get the best deck and you play the best deck in this game. That seems like there's so many different variations of what you can do and there's always a counter for those variations. 00;28;53;22 - 00;29;06;12 Speaker 1 And I mean, you're kind of it's kind of a crapshoot, right? Because how do you know going into this game that this guy is going to have to move deck or destroy deck or one deck or whatever? What are some other ones that are out there? There's got to be some other variants that are out there that's not even aware. 00;29;06;15 - 00;29;07;05 Speaker 1 There's control. 00;29;07;05 - 00;29;13;04 Speaker 4 Decks. Yeah, there's, there's the yeah, there's the Zola bullshit combo is. 00;29;13;29 - 00;29;15;12 Speaker 1 What do you what are you guys rocking. 00;29;16;00 - 00;29;38;22 Speaker 4 Right now. I'm doing a budget destroy deck. I don't have death yet. I want to do the death destroyer combo. So I'm waiting to get that card, but I'm doing like a shitty version of it where. Yeah, I would say it's Angel Nova, Bucky Carnage, Armor, Wolverine, Killmonger Wave, Hulkbuster Sabretooth Death Lock and the Destroyer. And it's got death like that. 00;29;38;22 - 00;29;47;16 Speaker 4 I'm not like death like it's not been it's not been working for me. But yeah, it's kind of just like. 00;29;47;16 - 00;29;50;25 Speaker 1 Did you get the battle pass the same? 00;29;50;25 - 00;29;51;14 Speaker 2 I don't. 00;29;52;25 - 00;29;56;13 Speaker 4 I don't think I did. Which do I want. The medal. 00;29;56;13 - 00;29;57;26 Speaker 2 Pass and that and. 00;29;57;26 - 00;30;00;00 Speaker 4 That 60 on the pass. 00;30;00;16 - 00;30;02;17 Speaker 3 Then. Yeah it did unlock everything that if dude. 00;30;02;17 - 00;30;03;26 Speaker 1 You're 60 already. 00;30;04;19 - 00;30;05;18 Speaker 4 I'm playing a lot. 00;30;05;27 - 00;30;06;10 Speaker 1 Yeah I have. 00;30;06;16 - 00;30;07;17 Speaker 2 Access to. 00;30;07;26 - 00;30;10;10 Speaker 4 All these. My collection was 683. 00;30;10;25 - 00;30;12;06 Speaker 2 Dang dude, you. 00;30;12;06 - 00;30;13;10 Speaker 1 Have been playing a lot. 00;30;13;23 - 00;30;14;06 Speaker 4 Playing. 00;30;14;06 - 00;30;15;20 Speaker 1 So you kind of like this game. 00;30;16;18 - 00;30;47;29 Speaker 4 I really like the game. I enjoy competitive card games. I used to play magic very heavily and I think this is kind of like a weird mix, but like, I don't find this game to be, like, overly competitive to a degree, but I find myself being, like, fairly hooked on it, which is fun because, like, I was never really a big fan of Hearthstone. 00;30;48;13 - 00;31;06;07 Speaker 4 Yeah. And I have like a nostalgic connection to Hearthstone. Like, I wait, the Blizzard universe wasn't last night. It's not like I just like this because it's Marvel. I just. I think that this game is just a the ease of it is great. The fact that it's cross-play between computer and PC is wonderful. I know Hearthstone is now. 00;31;06;07 - 00;31;09;07 Speaker 4 I think. I think it is. Maybe it's not. I'm almost positive. 00;31;09;12 - 00;31;11;15 Speaker 1 So there's an actual PC client for this. 00;31;13;00 - 00;31;13;16 Speaker 4 For Marvel's. 00;31;13;18 - 00;31;14;03 Speaker 3 First team. 00;31;14;08 - 00;31;15;29 Speaker 2 Oh yeah. Oh no shit. I didn't. 00;31;15;29 - 00;31;16;12 Speaker 1 Know that. 00;31;16;21 - 00;31;18;10 Speaker 4 Oh, yeah, yeah. 00;31;18;16 - 00;31;19;03 Speaker 2 It's dope. 00;31;19;03 - 00;31;21;22 Speaker 1 So you could actually get this on your steam dactyl if you wanted. 00;31;23;01 - 00;31;25;01 Speaker 3 I mean, I would just play it on mobile at that point. Yeah, he's. 00;31;25;01 - 00;31;26;06 Speaker 4 Playing. Oh well sure, sure. Yeah. 00;31;26;12 - 00;31;30;07 Speaker 1 Which is the listeners that might not want to play it on mobile. They want to play it on their steam decks. 00;31;30;11 - 00;31;40;13 Speaker 4 It's an easy it's an easy like play. You know? Yeah, it's great. I'm I'm a big fan. I'm big fan of the game. 00;31;41;05 - 00;31;47;14 Speaker 1 What's it like? What's your favorite location? 00;31;47;14 - 00;31;57;05 Speaker 4 I don't that's a good question. I think the when I was playing Zoo, the vibranium, the fucking deck was fire. 00;31;57;23 - 00;32;00;16 Speaker 3 Yeah, I'm a big fan of it. Out of my one deck, my ones deck which. 00;32;00;19 - 00;32;03;10 Speaker 1 Which one for the listeners is the, the vibranium one. 00;32;04;01 - 00;32;09;11 Speaker 3 So that's costs it cost it's one energy and it has a, an attack of or and it can't be destroyed. 00;32;09;11 - 00;32;27;00 Speaker 4 It can't be a straight. So it would say it's literally Wakanda as though it was the spot. And so when you go there, you just shuffles five or three vibranium rocks into your. 00;32;28;06 - 00;32;28;19 Speaker 3 To deck. 00;32;28;23 - 00;32;29;10 Speaker 4 Into your deck. 00;32;29;11 - 00;32;31;29 Speaker 3 I've been having this weird thing where. 00;32;31;29 - 00;32;32;18 Speaker 4 I hate the fight. 00;32;33;22 - 00;32;34;19 Speaker 2 You hate to fight one. 00;32;34;19 - 00;32;35;10 Speaker 1 That's my favorite. 00;32;35;10 - 00;32;37;22 Speaker 4 One. So fucking love it. Annoying. 00;32;37;22 - 00;32;52;15 Speaker 1 Yeah, well, I'm playing a dumb asked deck where I've got like Hulk abomination in a couple. I mean, I'm playing an absolute scrub deck because I'm not that far into it like you guys are. But I definitely love throwing down like nomore on that one or Jessica Jones and just. Sure, yeah. I don't know. It's just funny watching. 00;32;52;17 - 00;33;05;01 Speaker 4 Because all the decks I was playing weren't cotuit it like they weren't they work with that location. Like if I did zero, I'm killing all my small guys myself or they're killing my small guys until I'm pumping them up at the end of the game. 00;33;05;01 - 00;33;05;12 Speaker 1 Yeah. 00;33;06;09 - 00;33;10;08 Speaker 4 If I'm playing Destroy I might try to destroy those cards until I want to destroy them, you know? I mean, like. 00;33;10;09 - 00;33;27;26 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. See I actually got really cocky and I threw down and a more on that one and the dude threw down the devil dinosaur one where it's like, Yeah, yeah, he fucked me so hard on that one. I was like, Oh, the first time somebody beat me on that, I totally did not expect. And I snapped too. 00;33;27;26 - 00;33;47;07 Speaker 1 I was like so overconfident that I had won the match and he threw that card down. I was just like, Oh, touche. Good, sir. Touché. I like that one. Definitely is like the only card you could have. Possibly a play to counter my moves, but the game's great games, fricking phenomenal fun, and I think they just added a whole new wave of cards. 00;33;47;07 - 00;33;47;23 Speaker 1 The card. 00;33;48;03 - 00;33;48;15 Speaker 4 Seems like. 00;33;48;16 - 00;33;49;24 Speaker 1 It'd be probably. 00;33;50;00 - 00;33;50;15 Speaker 2 The card. 00;33;50;27 - 00;33;52;14 Speaker 1 Game. Yeah, surely. 00;33;52;18 - 00;34;10;01 Speaker 4 Whoever did this shit is they did. They did a great job, and all the variations are really cool and very fun. Like, all, like, all like the baby, the pixel art. All, like, really cool, hyper and then when you when you like ultra a card and you get it shiny and shit. 00;34;10;05 - 00;34;12;28 Speaker 2 Yep. Shiny logo. Shiny logo. 00;34;13;01 - 00;34;15;21 Speaker 4 What's more than shiny logo. There's actually. 00;34;16;09 - 00;34;18;23 Speaker 1 Yeah. There's one or there's one of I think it's the. Yeah. 00;34;19;09 - 00;34;30;08 Speaker 4 It's Ultra. Yeah. So you fully do a card, you fully like hype it up and then you get a new version of the card where the entire background is shiny and then you can upgrade that part too. 00;34;30;12 - 00;34;32;18 Speaker 2 Yeah, it's what happens. 00;34;32;18 - 00;34;37;15 Speaker 1 When you upgrade one of those, the new maxed out, I'm assuming I'm just yeah, I can, I can't imagine. 00;34;37;16 - 00;34;37;27 Speaker 2 Just being. 00;34;37;28 - 00;34;47;24 Speaker 1 Annoying, but I've only done that with one of my cards I think my my Spider-Man, the one that they gave away in the battle pass last month, the Miles Morales one, I think I did. It was the one I. 00;34;47;24 - 00;34;49;09 Speaker 4 Think I have like five now. 00;34;50;00 - 00;34;50;14 Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm. 00;34;52;16 - 00;35;02;12 Speaker 4 I, I will say I do wish there was kind of a better way to get cards because I'm at the point now where I don't have many missions left. 00;35;02;12 - 00;35;03;27 Speaker 1 And it's completely random. 00;35;04;27 - 00;35;32;07 Speaker 4 And I hate all these caches that you get are cool. But at the same time, I'm like most of the times I'm getting fucking credits or gold, which is cool, but also like, I don't want credits and gold right now. I want you on the cards. I want you cards. And I know that I could use the gold to buy credits, an upgrade to an upgrade cards that hopefully get more caches to get more, you know, I mean it. 00;35;32;28 - 00;35;48;23 Speaker 4 Yeah, I do wish there was kind of a better system here to get cards and obviously not something that's pay, but yeah, I don't know. I feel like I'm I'm just at a point now where I just want more cards to build cooler decks and I'm just like sitting here twiddling my thumbs a little bit. 00;35;48;29 - 00;35;49;10 Speaker 2 Yeah. 00;35;49;19 - 00;35;56;14 Speaker 1 Yeah, I saw somebody on streaming the other day or on twitch streaming the other day, and they had it listed that they were free to play. And I'm like. 00;35;57;20 - 00;35;59;07 Speaker 2 Sure way to pay to win in this game. 00;36;00;08 - 00;36;10;25 Speaker 4 So the only way you could do it is, like I just mentioned, if you buy a bunch of gold and then you buy a bunch of credits and then you just conflict, you have to play, sell. 00;36;10;25 - 00;36;11;01 Speaker 2 But. 00;36;11;01 - 00;36;12;18 Speaker 1 You just upgrade every single. 00;36;12;24 - 00;36;34;05 Speaker 4 Conflict can't. Well, you should be upgrading as much you can. Yeah, I wouldn't even say like don't be specific with it because quite frankly, it's just straight up. Like the more you upgrade, the more points you get, the more caches you get, the more card you get. That's it. So you could just constantly fucking upgrade cards to unlock caches. 00;36;34;05 - 00;36;47;10 Speaker 4 But it's, it is like the most unintuitive pay to win possible. So it's not even like I know people would spend money because they can spend money if they want to, but at the same time it's like it's the most unworthy pay to win. 00;36;47;17 - 00;36;50;21 Speaker 1 I feel like it's strictly cosmetics. That's why I always like it's worse. 00;36;50;28 - 00;37;05;15 Speaker 4 Well, it's not even just that it's cosmetic in the center upgrade for cosmetics but you're upgrading gets you the fucking the cards and caches and I should it just it's a worse it's a worse loot box than a normal loot boxes. 00;37;05;16 - 00;37;10;07 Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, I didn't really feel like you would have to spend an astronomical. 00;37;10;07 - 00;37;13;26 Speaker 4 Spend a lot of money for the lowest possibility of getting. 00;37;14;02 - 00;37;24;10 Speaker 1 Yeah. Like you're you're possibly you're actually going to get more variance and like cosmetics than anything else, right? 00;37;25;08 - 00;37;43;11 Speaker 4 Well, you're guaranteed a cost. So I think, I think I think I'm not making sense because you're already guaranteed a cosmetic buy by upgrading a card. But you're getting the but upgrading the card gets you points to go into your collection level, which is where you get new cards. Well, you pass hopefully you get new cards from because you're not even always getting that. 00;37;44;14 - 00;37;51;09 Speaker 4 But that system like once you get Where am I at? So once you get in the collection level. 00;37;52;17 - 00;37;56;12 Speaker 1 Yeah, you, you guys are way ahead of me. I'm at collection level like so. 00;37;56;12 - 00;38;01;09 Speaker 4 Once you get the five 538. No actually no it's not even sorry. 00;38;01;15 - 00;38;03;28 Speaker 3 I'm not that far. I'm like less than 300 guys. 00;38;03;29 - 00;38;05;13 Speaker 1 I'm less than 300 for sure. 00;38;06;22 - 00;38;26;11 Speaker 4 Once you get to collection level, like maybe it's 500 or something, you stop getting random cards as your possibility of opening and you go to collection collectors caches which are not always guaranteed. Yeah, sorry. They're not always guaranteed. Guaranteed to be cards. They're either going to be credits, gold or card or even. 00;38;27;18 - 00;38;29;10 Speaker 2 Oh, that sucks. See it does. 00;38;29;10 - 00;38;31;29 Speaker 1 It. So every eight points it doesn't give you. 00;38;32;13 - 00;38;42;11 Speaker 4 A dollar you know. So Yeah. And when you're, when you're, when you're early on in your collection level. Yeah. You're guaranteed to get a new card every two to points. 00;38;42;11 - 00;38;42;21 Speaker 2 Yeah. 00;38;43;13 - 00;38;45;07 Speaker 4 Yeah. I always went to the very bottom. 00;38;45;23 - 00;38;46;14 Speaker 2 I'm at two. 00;38;46;14 - 00;38;48;25 Speaker 1 Point eight points, I get a different item. 00;38;49;07 - 00;38;57;21 Speaker 4 Yeah. And then it starts to go to I think four and then eight and then yeah, once you get into the super high levels you're not guaranteed to be guaranteed to get due card at all. 00;38;57;29 - 00;38;58;12 Speaker 1 Yeah. 00;38;58;26 - 00;39;00;27 Speaker 4 You're, you're, you're opening cashes. 00;39;01;06 - 00;39;06;14 Speaker 1 Okay. So, so in other words, that sucks. Yeah, I would agree with you then. That's definitely not. 00;39;06;14 - 00;39;34;14 Speaker 4 Yeah. It's just, it's very slow, which like it is what it is, you know, where we're trying to go. He said disappear. Me. Yeah, but yeah. So if you, if you wanted to spend money, you could just fucking go buck wild in the gold and then go buckwild in the credits and then buckwild into upgrading all the cards you have that are currently sitting there and that will get you new cards. 00;39;34;14 - 00;39;37;02 Speaker 4 It's just it just it's a crapshoot. Yeah. 00;39;37;02 - 00;39;38;20 Speaker 1 That's not a way to spend money. 00;39;38;29 - 00;39;53;23 Speaker 4 I'm not like. I don't doubt that there's people doing that. I mean, you know, we all like there was, you know, that ding dong was it Tokyo Mac or something? The dude who fucking did what like 40 grand to to do. 00;39;53;27 - 00;39;54;15 Speaker 2 This stick man. 00;39;54;18 - 00;39;58;04 Speaker 4 Shit missing Mac. No, no, not him either. Oh, you're talking about somebody. 00;39;58;04 - 00;39;58;24 Speaker 1 A different game. 00;39;59;07 - 00;40;02;16 Speaker 4 Than I am. Marvel. Strikeforce. There was a dude. Who? That Japanese. 00;40;02;16 - 00;40;04;23 Speaker 1 Dude. Oh. To download to Denmark today. 00;40;05;00 - 00;40;09;05 Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah, yeah. What. 40 fucking grand. And then chargeback is credit card or something. Yeah. 00;40;09;09 - 00;40;10;04 Speaker 2 Yeah. Oh yeah. 00;40;10;04 - 00;40;12;25 Speaker 1 Because he wasn't given he spent all that money to beat. 00;40;13;21 - 00;40;14;25 Speaker 4 Was it not from. 00;40;14;29 - 00;40;15;24 Speaker 1 You or Dartmouth. 00;40;15;25 - 00;40;17;02 Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah. That's what it was to. 00;40;17;18 - 00;40;24;20 Speaker 1 Sort of get the well he didn't get a certain reward or something like that, so he charged the cash back. I do. Yeah, I do remember that. 00;40;24;20 - 00;40;32;09 Speaker 4 Yeah. Like, insane. But like. Yeah, like I, I personally just. 00;40;32;12 - 00;40;37;20 Speaker 1 I didn't get a card. Yeah, that's rough, man. That's. That's probably since like at the end of the matters. 00;40;38;01 - 00;40;43;22 Speaker 4 I even said it in the describe the day I'm like going on so fucking far having not gotten a card. 00;40;44;08 - 00;40;54;22 Speaker 1 Yeah, that's, that's crazy. I didn't, I didn't realize that it cuts you all. I just assumed that it would like probably increase the level of, of collection points you have to do to get to each level. But that. 00;40;54;22 - 00;40;59;05 Speaker 4 Seems like. Well, it does, but then it's also hard. Yeah. Then you're open, you're opening new boxes at that point. 00;40;59;05 - 00;41;04;29 Speaker 1 Yeah. So I mean that, that would be balanced out if the battle pass were giving you. 00;41;05;28 - 00;41;10;06 Speaker 4 A card even that's doing caches after season point and I'm level like 50 or something. 00;41;10;18 - 00;41;29;20 Speaker 1 The caches that I got out of there didn't even give new cards. It gave variants the cards when I, when I was in the caches in the last battle pass, I didn't get that many of them. So I don't know. But um, yeah, I just remember I got like 3 to 3 of my variants came from three of the caches that I opened up in the last one. 00;41;30;09 - 00;41;34;25 Speaker 1 But either way, I'm pretty excited to see where they go with the game. Keep adding cards, keep adding variance. 00;41;34;27 - 00;41;38;08 Speaker 4 You don't you don't get variants from cache. Are you talking about in the battle pass. 00;41;38;08 - 00;41;41;15 Speaker 1 I definitely got variants out of the caches in the battle pass. Yeah. 00;41;41;16 - 00;41;46;23 Speaker 4 Oh in the battle pass. Maybe not the, the, your collection pool will never give you variants that's giving you the strategy cards. 00;41;46;25 - 00;41;47;09 Speaker 1 Gotcha. 00;41;47;11 - 00;41;53;05 Speaker 4 Yeah. But yeah it's just slow but like whatever. 00;41;55;01 - 00;41;59;26 Speaker 1 I'm interested to see in figuring out if they're going to add anything else, like any other. 00;42;01;14 - 00;42;02;09 Speaker 3 Modes and whatnot. 00;42;02;09 - 00;42;17;17 Speaker 4 Yeah, apparently they're going to start eating in playing with friends and stuff, which I would hope. And yeah, I don't know, I don't know. I, I would like to play with friends. I think that'll be fun. 00;42;18;04 - 00;42;28;29 Speaker 1 One would be it won't be cool if they, if they had some kind of almost like a draft tournament or like not like a booster tournament. But it may be tough to do in this game, but. 00;42;29;16 - 00;42;43;13 Speaker 4 It wouldn't getting extra cards what matter because like magic like if you play magic online, the magic to treatment, magic arena, whatever it's like called, you're building straight up decks where you need multiple the same card. You know where in this game it's not it's not the same thing. 00;42;43;13 - 00;42;44;15 Speaker 1 Where you could be. All right. 00;42;44;15 - 00;43;04;08 Speaker 4 You got you don't have one. The one card, it's going on a deck because you only get 12 a 12 card deck as opposed to a magic where you're building like a 60 card deck or some shit. You know, it's it's yeah, it is. Yeah. I would like to see something like that where you could at least do something to get more cards. 00;43;05;16 - 00;43;08;26 Speaker 4 I'd be curious of what, what they could do though. 00;43;08;26 - 00;43;19;02 Speaker 1 But I do like the fact that the game started out a little. I don't want to say it was boring, but because it definitely wasn't boring, it just I was definitely slaughtering people at the beginning and then. 00;43;19;13 - 00;43;20;29 Speaker 4 Beginning it's like, yeah, it's crazy. 00;43;21;01 - 00;44;00;08 Speaker 1 You're just, you're too dumb steering people. And I'm assuming that's because some of them are computer or a good portion of them are bots, but as the game gets further along, I find it to become very much more challenging. Yeah, I don't. I feel like in other card games I play once I've been playing for a while, it's not so much challenging as it is just I don't have the top tier cards or you just get to the point where if you don't pull the right kind of cards, you lose, you know, like I find that that's like the state of what used to bother me about Hearthstone was that it was that like, you 00;44;00;08 - 00;44;22;13 Speaker 1 know, getting all the cards you would either have to spend money or you'd have to grind your face off, you know, and it got to the point where you would just play against people that had all the cards and you just lose instantaneously. And it just wasn't fine, you know? But this game, it's great. They they've they've avoided all of that or at least they always it feels like there's an answer to every deck that is a problem that I've come across. 00;44;22;13 - 00;44;38;15 Speaker 1 Like there's always some kind of card variation you can play and there's not too many cards where it's like, you know, if you're only having ten cards in your deck and there's six turns, the odds of you not pulling what you need is so much lower than when you have a 60 card deck. So I like that about the game. 00;44;38;15 - 00;44;45;02 Speaker 1 But um, anyways, Marvel Snap podcast. 00;44;45;02 - 00;44;46;21 Speaker 3 Snap to it, snap. 00;44;46;21 - 00;44;47;20 Speaker 2 To have. 00;44;47;20 - 00;44;59;01 Speaker 4 To as fuck out of here. That's funny. I am also I have been playing Warhammer Dart type the beta for the new Warhammer. 00;44;59;03 - 00;45;00;02 Speaker 1 Which is it? 00;45;00;16 - 00;45;02;16 Speaker 4 It's very fun. It's also better than I thought it would be. 00;45;03;06 - 00;45;04;22 Speaker 1 It looks sick. 00;45;04;22 - 00;45;06;07 Speaker 4 It's very good. 00;45;06;25 - 00;45;11;01 Speaker 3 Chris texted me about it. So have you played this one like I'm not into that as much as are, so. 00;45;11;16 - 00;45;12;04 Speaker 2 Yeah, it's. 00;45;12;05 - 00;45;14;03 Speaker 1 It's crazy cool though. 00;45;14;03 - 00;45;32;21 Speaker 4 It is really funny because Chris doesn't have a computer or a console and he's like, I want to get a console for the kids, but also I want to a console play games. But at the same time I, I, he's like, I want to play PlayStation games, but dark tide is only on as a, as a microsoft exclusive right now, etc., etc.. 00;45;32;28 - 00;45;34;26 Speaker 4 Sounds like that's terrible and sorry. 00;45;35;25 - 00;45;37;14 Speaker 3 Yeah, I just want to get that Xbox. 00;45;37;26 - 00;45;38;20 Speaker 4 Yeah, exactly. 00;45;40;02 - 00;45;43;24 Speaker 3 Because everything else depends on what you want to play. You're going to play. Now, don't worry about stuff coming later. 00;45;44;05 - 00;45;44;15 Speaker 2 Yeah. 00;45;45;12 - 00;45;45;18 Speaker 3 No. 00;45;47;16 - 00;45;53;10 Speaker 1 Yeah. It it doesn't look like a Warhammer game. I mean, it looks like we are. 00;45;53;10 - 00;45;54;03 Speaker 4 So it's, it's. 00;45;54;03 - 00;45;55;27 Speaker 2 Pretty much it's a beneficial. 00;45;55;27 - 00;46;38;13 Speaker 4 Sequel to this other game. BERMAN Tied pretty much. And so this is just a better version of that. I only played version ten a little bit. I mean, I had I play it, I thought I did, but it's with Warhammer, you know, there's fucking all this crazy space, either magic or superhuman shit, this and that. But in, in fucking with dark tide, it's just straight up like normal. 00;46;38;19 - 00;47;15;10 Speaker 4 The quote unquote normal people there are like there is like a cycle. You can be, but it's not like space. Marines are like fucking giant, like chaos wizards. You're just like a soldier or you're an ogre, which is a mutant like a mutant human, like a giant, a giant person. There is a cycle character, but it's like a very low level like or not like a space Marines like or so it is cool though because you're like a you're a specialist squad that gets dropped into what's called a hive, a hive or like mega cities on planet in on planets in the Imperium dropped into a hive to like kill some fucking chaos baddies, you 00;47;15;10 - 00;47;15;26 Speaker 4 know what I mean? 00;47;15;27 - 00;47;19;10 Speaker 1 Yeah, it didn't look like it was in beta from the people I saw playing it, but. 00;47;20;02 - 00;47;36;08 Speaker 4 It's so it is unfortunately very beta. It is. I had a lot of crashes. It's been very unfun in that regard. Oh shit. But like, yeah, almost every other mission. Maybe I they crashes for me. 00;47;36;10 - 00;47;37;21 Speaker 1 Oh shit. Nevermind. 00;47;37;21 - 00;47;37;28 Speaker 2 Yeah. 00;47;38;18 - 00;47;46;14 Speaker 4 Yeah. It's, it's pretty annoying in that sense but it's like for in. Yeah. That's a matter for you. Exactly. 00;47;47;00 - 00;47;50;17 Speaker 1 That was me the first like a week of Diablo four so I get it. 00;47;51;01 - 00;47;51;12 Speaker 2 Yeah. 00;47;51;23 - 00;48;12;27 Speaker 4 But it's fine. The game is the good thing they just announce is that they will not be resetting progression in the back. So I actually haven't been going too hard in the game, uh, as like I could because I was like, oh, they're going to, they, they said they weren't going to keep any progression, but they will be now, which is really nice. 00;48;14;05 - 00;48;16;09 Speaker 1 When you see progression, you mean just like in the storyline. 00;48;17;00 - 00;48;27;29 Speaker 4 You mean you it's multiplayer game in the sense of you're playing with other people that do these missions, but you level up your character and with that comes being able to buy a better gear and stuff. 00;48;27;29 - 00;48;31;17 Speaker 1 So it's kind of is, is that like Tarkov or more like cod kind of stuff? 00;48;32;05 - 00;48;54;20 Speaker 4 Neither. It's it's you're in for Mish, you're in for man strike squads and you do just a single player, not a single player. You do a single mission that's like a mode. That's a game where you're playing against the computer, but it's not like tarkov in the sense of like, you find gear in the mission and you keep it. 00;48;54;20 - 00;49;18;26 Speaker 4 You, you get money and experience and that allows you to, you know, buy shit after the mission ends with some kind of weapon or an armor or something. And then you, you know, you just jump back in another mission, which is usually there's right now there's only, I think six missions available to play. But it is like a fairly large mission pool that you'll be able to play come release. 00;49;19;24 - 00;49;39;24 Speaker 4 But yeah, it's not like you're not playing, you're not like shooting other people, you're shooting bots, you know, it's like a mission where it's like you have to kill this high level chaos warlord and you're going through the the hive, which is like a ghost city, but it's not like an open map city. It's, you know, tunnels and and buildings and shit like that where it's a single progression. 00;49;39;24 - 00;49;51;27 Speaker 4 It's like a linear progression. And then, yeah, you get to the end, you kill the boss and you get extracted and you go back to like you're, you're floating the space cathedral and called a. 00;49;51;28 - 00;49;52;04 Speaker 2 Day. 00;49;53;14 - 00;49;54;19 Speaker 3 My shot of being a boom. 00;49;54;29 - 00;49;55;18 Speaker 4 As they said. 00;49;55;18 - 00;49;56;00 Speaker 3 Your uncle. 00;49;56;14 - 00;50;23;14 Speaker 4 And your uncle. But yeah, it's super fun. It's really good. It's not the only thing Warhammer about is the fact that there's, like, chaos, demons and stuff. You're, you're, you know, you're either playing as a a sharp shooter, a zealot, which is like a more melee build. You can be a spiker, which is just like what you expect, like psychic shit or an ogre. 00;50;23;14 - 00;50;44;08 Speaker 4 An ogre. It's called an ogre. And specifically in an ogre in is like I mentioned, like they they are superhuman. Superhuman, not superhuman. Like a mutant, like bigger person that's in that's just like more, that's like more tanky build, you know. Yeah, that's kind of it. It's fun. That's good. I think the main is free. 00;50;44;19 - 00;50;46;06 Speaker 2 So did you. 00;50;46;06 - 00;50;48;00 Speaker 3 Is it. I'll try it or is it working? You get it? 00;50;48;14 - 00;50;49;01 Speaker 4 It's on steam. 00;50;50;12 - 00;50;51;15 Speaker 3 On steam or. No, I would. 00;50;51;15 - 00;50;56;22 Speaker 1 Like to try it. It looks sick, although I need I need to get a new I need to get a new graphics card and computer in general. 00;50;57;07 - 00;50;58;07 Speaker 4 You probably play a Super. 00;50;58;07 - 00;50;58;20 Speaker 2 Mario. 00;51;00;11 - 00;51;05;04 Speaker 4 Super low, low quality or low quality house on the way. What I'm looking for. But you know what I mean. 00;51;05;21 - 00;51;09;26 Speaker 2 Like playing with spikes. Yeah. 00;51;09;26 - 00;51;10;20 Speaker 3 Or Again. 00;51;11;14 - 00;51;13;12 Speaker 1 Or Hammer Dark Knight or Bright. 00;51;14;06 - 00;51;15;22 Speaker 2 Side Dark type. Yeah. 00;51;16;11 - 00;51;38;16 Speaker 1 So while we're talking about these games, I wanted to mention because I did try to copy some gaming news since we kind of talk about the kind of stuff. But they did. They did the director of Ragnarok did rule out the fact that there will be no potential DLC for the game. 00;51;38;16 - 00;51;40;16 Speaker 3 So I'm okay with that. Yeah. 00;51;41;01 - 00;51;42;20 Speaker 4 They didn't do DLC for the fourth one. 00;51;42;22 - 00;51;55;11 Speaker 1 No, some people were just basically speculating that they were going to because that's what all studios are doing these days for big triple-A titles. But this is something that I thought was really interesting. Dom Did you pick up. 00;51;56;15 - 00;51;57;19 Speaker 3 The preorder for Beta? 00;51;58;24 - 00;52;01;01 Speaker 1 Did you pick up Scarlet or Violet by any chance? 00;52;01;22 - 00;52;06;29 Speaker 4 I haven't, only because of how fucking absolutely buggy I've heard the game is. Yeah. 00;52;07;12 - 00;52;11;27 Speaker 1 So Nintendo was actually issuing refunds for the game. 00;52;12;05 - 00;52;13;08 Speaker 4 I heard it has. 00;52;13;08 - 00;52;13;23 Speaker 2 To be pretty. 00;52;13;23 - 00;52;28;21 Speaker 4 Bad to do. Yeah. I'm like, yeah, I don't know what to do because I want to play it, but at the same time, I don't want to waste my money on something that is not fucking usable. It's not playable. They're going to be, you know. 00;52;28;27 - 00;52;34;09 Speaker 1 Amazing. I see so many. And I didn't have any problems with Arceus personally. And I know a lot of people were. 00;52;34;18 - 00;52;34;27 Speaker 2 Enjoying. 00;52;34;27 - 00;52;49;00 Speaker 1 The game, but they were like, Oh, the graphics suck. You know, we've, we've been playing these games for you know, 20 years or something like that and the graphics still stuck on. I kind of have to agree with people. Like it is surprising that Pokémon being a. 00;52;50;00 - 00;52;51;28 Speaker 2 Pokémon is not a. 00;52;52;05 - 00;53;01;10 Speaker 1 Small franchise. Okay. They're one of the globally one of the largest names in video gaming period. Okay. So you would expect. 00;53;01;23 - 00;53;02;08 Speaker 2 A little. 00;53;02;08 - 00;53;19;17 Speaker 1 More out of them than dog share graphics and a buggy game to be released. I think Nintendo needs to take a step back and not issue out another dogshit game and actually, like try to do try to appease their fans because yeah. 00;53;20;07 - 00;53;39;15 Speaker 4 Unfortunately game freak is completely this has been the case for the last like few Pokemon is Aki it's like the last few Pokemon games have a not have like the graphics have not been the best. Yeah and this is Nintendo's fault. This is 100% game freak. I mean, the temperature, the tenno. 00;53;39;15 - 00;53;40;17 Speaker 2 Could not. 00;53;40;17 - 00;53;41;00 Speaker 4 Pull the. 00;53;41;00 - 00;53;42;22 Speaker 1 Reins designing the game. It's not. 00;53;42;22 - 00;53;43;04 Speaker 4 Now. 00;53;43;13 - 00;53;43;18 Speaker 1 They're. 00;53;43;18 - 00;54;04;22 Speaker 4 Not licensing to be like, oh, you what? You should understand how important this franchise is for our fucking everything that we do and everything that you do. Yeah, but game freak is 100% just resting on the fucking laurels of it being a pokemon game. Yeah. And people being like, I will do anything to play Pokemon. 00;54;05;11 - 00;54;09;09 Speaker 1 You know? And how far is that going to go? Because people are only going to so much shit. 00;54;09;09 - 00;54;12;07 Speaker 4 I think. I think I think I think it's starting. I think it's starting to hot. 00;54;12;17 - 00;54;18;04 Speaker 1 Dude, if, if if Nintendo is issuing refunds, that's huge. I mean, because Nintendo. 00;54;18;13 - 00;54;19;23 Speaker 4 Just doesn't even do doesn't. 00;54;19;27 - 00;54;20;09 Speaker 1 Know. 00;54;20;15 - 00;54;22;17 Speaker 2 Well, first of all, yeah. You used to have to pay. 00;54;22;17 - 00;54;43;10 Speaker 1 Full price for Breath of the Wild or the regular Super Mario Odyssey, whatever the shit is on. I mean they don't Yeah. They're not doing price cuts on their, their products at all. So issuing refunds is a pretty huge ordeal and I'm pretty surprised to see that they're doing that. The game has to be dog shit if that's the case. 00;54;43;10 - 00;55;01;19 Speaker 1 I mean, it has to be it for them to acknowledge that the game is that bone that's that's not good because them issuing any refunds validates the the user's experience of it being a terrible game. And you know it's not a good look for them. 00;55;02;15 - 00;55;06;05 Speaker 2 Not at all. Because these are who who made. 00;55;07;25 - 00;55;11;19 Speaker 1 Let's go Pikachu and let's go Eevee was that still was that game freak still? 00;55;12;25 - 00;55;19;10 Speaker 4 I think Niantic may have done that which gives the studio who did Pokémon go right? 00;55;19;10 - 00;55;25;11 Speaker 1 And I got to say that I haven't played any. I played dark years, but I haven't played any of the sword and shield. 00;55;25;19 - 00;55;26;24 Speaker 4 No. So game freak number. 00;55;26;25 - 00;55;46;22 Speaker 1 Okay. So for me, I didn't I'm not talking about graphics wise, but for me, let's go. Pikachu and Eevee were phenomenal games. I didn't play sword and shield and I didn't play the other ones. But for me as an adult, that is a fan of the OG like series of Pokemon. That was the best game they've come out with in forever. 00;55;46;29 - 00;56;11;10 Speaker 4 But the Sword Shield was nice because it brought up, it added in the stadium element to it, which is kind of like a callback on the Pokémon Stadium, which was quite right. The the graphics for Sword and Shield were just as if it was on the ice like Niantic, the graphics were sword and shield were just as if it were straight up a normal like Nintendo Gameboy style. 00;56;11;24 - 00;56;33;16 Speaker 4 At this point it was the Diaz 3D s and stuff, which was fine. I wasn't like, get a mega stink because they didn't, you know, update the way the game looked. But I was like, Oh, we're going from a handheld to now the official console version. This should be definitely better and different. And it wasn't. But as the oh, whatever, you know, the next one. 00;56;33;22 - 00;56;51;06 Speaker 4 And then we got a taste of that with arcades which is like, you know, cool, fine, whatever. But then now I expected the play of what we're doing. Arceus And that's cool. But what I wasn't expecting was it to just not be done. 00;56;51;06 - 00;56;51;18 Speaker 2 Good. 00;56;53;17 - 00;56;57;08 Speaker 3 It's done good and dun dun dun good. And that's it, that's it, that's it. 00;56;57;11 - 00;56;58;27 Speaker 4 That's a Dundalk accent coming on. 00;56;58;27 - 00;57;00;06 Speaker 3 Charlie and look. 00;57;00;07 - 00;57;01;07 Speaker 4 At that saying Hey, not. 00;57;02;26 - 00;57;03;05 Speaker 2 True. 00;57;03;06 - 00;57;14;04 Speaker 4 But I am I am surprised at them thinking that they could just get Loch Ness and get away with it. That's like not learning to read. I can put it. 00;57;14;26 - 00;57;16;04 Speaker 3 But I say that. Yeah, I. 00;57;16;04 - 00;57;33;20 Speaker 1 Mean, do they? They clearly did because like you were saying, like, Nintendo's not the kind of company that is just going to release crap games. Like I'm really surprised that they did that because they've, they've dropped triple-A titles before and told them to go back and I mean, didn't they do that with like Metroid Prime three or something like that? 00;57;33;20 - 00;57;45;28 Speaker 1 Like they were working on one of the Metroid games and it's still probably dread was not supposed to be the next Metroid to release in the series, but it ended up doing I mean, ended up being that way because I think that there was another. 00;57;46;07 - 00;57;54;02 Speaker 4 They scrapped the entirety of Metroid prime four that's 4.4 was supposed to come out and they got the scrapped the entire the entire thing so because. 00;57;54;14 - 00;58;16;22 Speaker 1 Clearly they're not going to put out shit. So what happened here, you know, like did they just say like, oh well woops he's like, let's just see how it does and do damage control if it pops up. But either way, not a good look for them. I wouldn't want to be one of the people that are in attendance right now. 00;58;16;22 - 00;58;39;11 Speaker 4 Yeah, I don't know. I guess I'm not I'm not buying at least until it's been patched where this memory because it's a memory leak issue. And apparently that's why the graphics are shit, because there's something happening with the memory. So until that shit is at least notice noted that it's like there's a solve it. I'm not buying im I'm wasting my fucking time playing a busted ass game now. 00;58;39;12 - 00;58;55;04 Speaker 4 Especially like I have a first gen switch which as time goes on, worse and worse. So like, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't know. It's kind of a bummer. I was just looking forward to it, but I'm not wasting my fucking money so yeah. 00;58;56;23 - 00;58;58;04 Speaker 3 Wait till it's patched or something. 00;58;58;13 - 00;59;00;19 Speaker 4 At least. At the very least. Yeah, at the very least. 00;59;01;24 - 00;59;02;03 Speaker 2 Yeah. 00;59;02;09 - 00;59;05;07 Speaker 1 Otherwise you would have been one of those people getting a refund. 00;59;05;07 - 00;59;06;08 Speaker 2 Probably. Yeah. 00;59;06;11 - 00;59;08;01 Speaker 3 Probably going to refund and have the game. 00;59;08;10 - 00;59;10;11 Speaker 2 Oh yeah. How does. 00;59;10;11 - 00;59;12;07 Speaker 4 That work. I guess they make you. 00;59;12;17 - 00;59;13;04 Speaker 1 Using major. 00;59;13;04 - 00;59;18;13 Speaker 3 Tournaments. The same thing with cyberpunk. Like every three 5% of tag. We're going to keep the shirt. 00;59;18;15 - 00;59;18;24 Speaker 1 Dude. 00;59;20;08 - 00;59;21;19 Speaker 3 It's not a guy that made cyberpunk really good. 00;59;22;05 - 00;59;24;06 Speaker 1 And then they made it go really good. 00;59;24;06 - 00;59;34;21 Speaker 3 Mm hmm. I haven't I haven't really dived into it since I did it, but it's one of my things to do over the holiday break is to dove back into that game. I just need to start over from scratch because I spent, like, 2 hours on it. 00;59;35;23 - 00;59;48;20 Speaker 1 Well, my my next piece of news, surely, is going to be a complete death blow to your personal ego. But there Sony is going to be removing shovel wear and easy platinum games from the PlayStation store. 00;59;48;21 - 00;59;49;12 Speaker 4 Yeah, you saw it. 00;59;49;12 - 00;59;50;00 Speaker 1 So. 00;59;50;04 - 00;59;51;10 Speaker 3 You don't need to shovel. 00;59;52;09 - 00;59;53;15 Speaker 2 It. That we all know. 00;59;53;15 - 00;59;54;29 Speaker 1 Your pad the stats somewhere in there. 00;59;54;29 - 00;59;58;17 Speaker 2 There we all know Charlie. You know, it's just. 00;59;58;17 - 01;00;04;04 Speaker 4 Sitting there going into a Lego Batman on easy mode. They just swap in through it, pal. Okay? 01;00;04;05 - 01;00;05;08 Speaker 3 I mean, it's a legit. 01;00;05;11 - 01;00;08;03 Speaker 4 I know. I just. I couldn't think of. I could think of a game. Okay. I'm sorry. 01;00;08;10 - 01;00;10;15 Speaker 2 Okay, so you're going in there and getting one. 01;00;10;16 - 01;00;13;08 Speaker 1 And you're you're platinum in geometry. Okay. 01;00;14;13 - 01;00;27;22 Speaker 3 I, you know, there's that. I just because that's funny to find I'm doing that. But there was there was one time where I did that, where I was just like it was like a 99 cent game. And you just have to like jump like 100 times and you go, wow. 01;00;27;24 - 01;00;32;15 Speaker 2 Do you know, there was one time you did that? There was because he could you know, the rule. 01;00;32;15 - 01;00;37;00 Speaker 1 Is that if there if you made one exception for it, you definitely made more than one exception for. 01;00;37;19 - 01;00;39;00 Speaker 3 Only one. Very good. 01;00;39;08 - 01;00;41;27 Speaker 2 Very funny. Yeah. Well. 01;00;42;25 - 01;00;45;10 Speaker 1 Sorry about your. Sony's on to you and. 01;00;45;10 - 01;00;51;07 Speaker 3 Well, it's only one platinum if they'd rescind it, so it's fine, right? But that's one place I feel like I make it up with a crisis. 01;00;51;07 - 01;00;54;09 Speaker 2 Oh, I feel like the league, the. 01;00;54;10 - 01;01;02;19 Speaker 1 Bigwigs at Sony were sat down and they were like, All right. So the over Cheever's gaming podcast is starting to get a little bit too much steam behind them. 01;01;02;19 - 01;01;14;27 Speaker 4 And that's that's what it was the hundred percent what it was. Yeah, that's what it was. They're like, Hey, boys, we got it, we got it. We have what we have available. You know, these guys are really are they got the fire. 01;01;14;27 - 01;01;15;18 Speaker 2 Do it right now. Do it. 01;01;16;13 - 01;01;17;13 Speaker 3 Keep going. Keep going. 01;01;17;15 - 01;01;22;11 Speaker 4 My whole life as a joke. You know what I'm saying? I'm just I'm just going to keep going like this. Are asleep, I guess. 01;01;23;08 - 01;01;25;27 Speaker 1 How dare you besmirch Lego Batman? 01;01;26;22 - 01;01;28;18 Speaker 2 I actually. I do hear you. 01;01;28;29 - 01;01;39;18 Speaker 4 Yeah, I. I'm sorry. I do fully recognize that it's the Lego Batman. The Lego games are actually fire games. 01;01;39;22 - 01;01;41;07 Speaker 3 They're great. My fantastic. 01;01;41;11 - 01;01;41;20 Speaker 2 I would. 01;01;41;20 - 01;01;46;20 Speaker 1 Say that I talked a lot of shit about Lego Star Wars and then I saw. 01;01;46;20 - 01;01;47;18 Speaker 3 And you still need to play that. 01;01;47;23 - 01;01;55;05 Speaker 1 I saw the game in the Black Friday sale and I watched the trailer for it and I was like, you know. 01;01;55;05 - 01;01;55;25 Speaker 4 Any cool stuff. 01;01;55;25 - 01;01;56;16 Speaker 2 For Black Friday? 01;01;57;00 - 01;01;57;21 Speaker 1 I had no, that. 01;01;57;21 - 01;01;58;18 Speaker 3 Really wasn't much. 01;01;58;18 - 01;02;02;00 Speaker 4 $4 billion spent in the U.S. economy on Black Friday. 01;02;02;09 - 01;02;02;27 Speaker 2 On what? 01;02;03;17 - 01;02;05;13 Speaker 4 On on purchases, on things. 01;02;06;02 - 01;02;10;08 Speaker 1 I mean, I can't lie. I did buy my my lady friend. I bought our crisp white shit. 01;02;10;08 - 01;02;21;09 Speaker 4 I brought a new jacket, a brand new I got two new jujitsu. Guys, don't tell Mallory I brought some new joggers. I fully I went full full of sell out on dummies values on Black Friday. 01;02;22;05 - 01;02;33;24 Speaker 1 Do you I'm pretty stoked I got the entire since she doesn't listen to it anyways I got the entire demon slayer like all the mangas, like the collection. So I got her the whole thing for for Christmas. I'm pretty. 01;02;33;24 - 01;02;35;06 Speaker 2 Excited. Cool. Yeah. 01;02;36;01 - 01;02;40;21 Speaker 1 It was the first thing. Anyway, we watched the other so, you know, figure she's into that kind of stuff. 01;02;40;26 - 01;02;44;04 Speaker 4 So he kept. 01;02;44;08 - 01;02;47;03 Speaker 2 Cute. 01;02;47;03 - 01;02;55;05 Speaker 1 So. Oh, another video game that came out that we didn't even talk about because I haven't had time to play it is tactics ogre reborn. 01;02;56;02 - 01;03;00;06 Speaker 3 With the fire. I played a little bit of it and I have to say I'm not into those games. 01;03;00;28 - 01;03;02;04 Speaker 2 Oh, it's a tactic game. 01;03;02;04 - 01;03;26;11 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. It's totally a fantasy tactics. It well actually it was the studio that made final fantasy tactics. This was the game they made before final for his tactics. That is the same as like the same art style and it has a very cult following, but it was never released in the United States on Super Nintendo. So it's like one of those like rereleases, I guess you could say, but they remaster it. 01;03;26;11 - 01;03;51;25 Speaker 1 And as a person that does like those games, I love it. I think it's fucking phenomenal. I've had zero time to play it, but it's, it's, I think they've done an excellent job remastering it. And yeah, I wish I had more time to play it, but I've been, you know, doing things like getting my a mortal or I'm sorry, the undying run in World Warcraft where you're like doing the first dungeon without anybody dying on a raid, boss. 01;03;52;02 - 01;03;53;02 Speaker 2 Stupid shit like that. 01;03;53;20 - 01;04;01;28 Speaker 1 I know, I know. I got to sneak in my wow accolades somewhere in there because these are the overachievers gaming podcast and that is an overachiever. 01;04;01;29 - 01;04;05;20 Speaker 4 Do you know, it's like that just, you know, whatever you want. 01;04;05;20 - 01;04;06;28 Speaker 1 At least I'm having fun, right? 01;04;07;07 - 01;04;08;00 Speaker 2 That's all I'm. That's all. 01;04;08;00 - 01;04;08;12 Speaker 3 That matters. 01;04;08;12 - 01;04;09;02 Speaker 2 Fine, fine. 01;04;09;14 - 01;04;11;08 Speaker 4 The fun we had along the way. 01;04;11;25 - 01;04;13;10 Speaker 3 And the friendships that came along with. 01;04;13;24 - 01;04;13;29 Speaker 2 That. 01;04;14;28 - 01;04;18;14 Speaker 1 Is how it is, how we justify playing more of a strike force. 01;04;19;05 - 01;04;19;13 Speaker 2 Yeah. 01;04;20;03 - 01;04;34;24 Speaker 3 I mean, essentially. So what that came out of it. Yes. The friends. Alumni. Yeah. So I have not I've tried to take over, I put on my steam deck to take with me to Japan. Yeah, but I did not, I just could not. I don't know what it was, I just could get into it. 01;04;35;03 - 01;04;41;07 Speaker 1 Do if it's not your, if you don't like those kinds of games, you're not going to like them. Like it's just you have to. 01;04;41;11 - 01;04;45;15 Speaker 3 I was like, Oh, I spent 50 bucks on. I might as well try. I'm like, I just can't. I just can't get into it. 01;04;46;14 - 01;04;47;19 Speaker 2 That's it sucks. 01;04;47;19 - 01;04;56;29 Speaker 1 About buying video games, man. Is that like they don't you can't just go to Blockbuster and rent games anymore and try it out and then be like, Oh, hey, I like this game. I want to go buy it. Now, they don't have that. I mean, you. 01;04;56;29 - 01;04;58;13 Speaker 2 Could, you could, you know. 01;05;00;08 - 01;05;04;17 Speaker 1 I guess be can you return video games if you don't like them? I don't even know if that's a thing. 01;05;06;07 - 01;05;06;27 Speaker 2 I mean, and. 01;05;06;27 - 01;05;07;26 Speaker 3 I just took them. 01;05;07;26 - 01;05;09;16 Speaker 1 On like a Violet or Scarlett or. 01;05;11;11 - 01;05;19;21 Speaker 3 Yeah, I don't know how that works. And I haven't really gotten into, like, steam achievements because I don't even want to go down that road. Yeah, that would. 01;05;19;21 - 01;05;21;27 Speaker 1 Be the one. That would be a rabbit hole. 01;05;22;21 - 01;05;25;07 Speaker 3 I mean, it's the same shit as platinum stuff, but like. 01;05;25;07 - 01;05;25;21 Speaker 1 Yeah, but they're. 01;05;25;21 - 01;05;34;25 Speaker 3 So I don't care enough about steam. I don't care enough about Steam to do it. Yeah, fair. Which I don't know why I chose PlayStation over steam, but whatever. 01;05;35;15 - 01;05;37;16 Speaker 4 There's two reviews too much on is too much on steam. 01;05;37;20 - 01;05;39;00 Speaker 1 Yeah. Dude, if you want. I mean. 01;05;39;02 - 01;05;39;16 Speaker 4 Pretty much. 01;05;39;23 - 01;05;46;05 Speaker 1 That would be a full time job trying to keep up with that. You would need like associates. 01;05;46;05 - 01;05;47;07 Speaker 2 Yeah. You definitely. 01;05;47;07 - 01;05;51;16 Speaker 1 Outsource your your game time to a VA somewhere and have them. 01;05;52;01 - 01;05;53;08 Speaker 4 Yeah you'd have a literal assassin. 01;05;53;27 - 01;05;55;14 Speaker 2 Do you or. 01;05;55;14 - 01;06;08;25 Speaker 4 No. Say you requested an assistant into your into your into your normal day to day work. What is that for? Well, I just really needed help with this project going on where I just played them every single day. 01;06;09;20 - 01;06;10;10 Speaker 1 I'm sure of it. 01;06;10;24 - 01;06;11;15 Speaker 4 Yeah, exactly. 01;06;13;00 - 01;06;25;18 Speaker 3 I mean, I don't know. I would love to get I mean, I know maybe I'll get into it because I say that now, okay. I just don't know. It doesn't have the same like. 01;06;26;03 - 01;06;30;21 Speaker 4 Because it was a trophy, it was like a physical trophy. You get in PlayStation. 01;06;31;21 - 01;06;33;15 Speaker 3 And like there's a there's a doll side. 01;06;33;15 - 01;06;33;24 Speaker 4 There's like. 01;06;34;03 - 01;06;35;00 Speaker 2 There's a digital. 01;06;35;00 - 01;06;36;02 Speaker 4 Look. It looks it's. 01;06;36;16 - 01;06;37;23 Speaker 2 A visual. 01;06;38;01 - 01;06;39;07 Speaker 4 A visual trophy. 01;06;40;09 - 01;06;41;17 Speaker 3 And no visual trophy. 01;06;41;28 - 01;06;42;16 Speaker 2 Really gaudy. 01;06;42;17 - 01;06;49;17 Speaker 4 Oh, you have a is it a chief badges. Is that what it is. And you just yeah. They're badges like. 01;06;49;17 - 01;06;54;09 Speaker 3 It's some stuff and I mean you can sell them which I don't know I like. I mean there's definitely like some rare stuff that you can get. 01;06;54;11 - 01;06;55;15 Speaker 4 No one gives a shit about. 01;06;55;15 - 01;06;56;29 Speaker 2 These badges would be good. 01;06;57;01 - 01;07;04;07 Speaker 1 It would be cool if like, you actually got something for doing it. Like if you, if you had a 100 platinum got missing. 01;07;05;08 - 01;07;10;21 Speaker 3 I would, yeah. If you had like, you know, a thousand platinum games, you would never see me and then you, like, really shimmer. 01;07;10;28 - 01;07;31;00 Speaker 1 It really should be like it should be like something if they're okay. First of all, if they're going to remove platinum trophies and silverware, shit, and they're going to make you spend time on their on their console buying things and they're saying, okay, hey, we're going to put this reward system in there. If you platinum like 100 games, they should send you like a certificate or something, like something you could put on, get a. 01;07;31;00 - 01;07;31;11 Speaker 2 Free game. 01;07;31;21 - 01;07;43;23 Speaker 1 Or get a free game. Yeah. I mean, like it, like it's any skin off their back. If you spend that much time and money on their consoles, then what's the, what's the harm in giving somebody a free game, that dollars game or you doesn't even have to be a game could be a 30 or $40 game. 01;07;44;13 - 01;07;48;17 Speaker 3 Yeah, there's one free. Well true. We'll see. 01;07;48;18 - 01;07;49;18 Speaker 1 What would we know if. 01;07;49;19 - 01;07;53;00 Speaker 2 I'm just wondering. There's nothing from free shit. 01;07;53;12 - 01;07;58;04 Speaker 4 I know absolutely nothing of a big old ding dong. 01;07;58;04 - 01;08;17;11 Speaker 3 Oh God. Yeah, we get. I've been playing the Summers Work Chronicles a little bit here and there. It's been fun. Yeah. And you know, Stan and I follow him grouped up it all, but I just, you know, I log in, like, once or twice a week, just let it run. And just as I say, it's it's a fun little MMO game, I have to say. 01;08;17;12 - 01;08;22;22 Speaker 1 Yeah, if I wasn't super burned out on those kinds of games, I would totally check it out. 01;08;23;01 - 01;08;26;24 Speaker 3 But yeah. Oh yeah, no, I would definitely get burned out on it for sure. 01;08;26;24 - 01;08;46;03 Speaker 1 Yeah, I have already played like that. I well first of all, I played someone whose work relentlessly and spent so much money on it. I just I don't know. It looks great though. I mean, it's definitely a definitely an A-plus mobile like MMO type game. Right. And not to mention. 01;08;46;03 - 01;08;46;27 Speaker 3 That it's on Steam. 01;08;46;27 - 01;08;48;17 Speaker 1 Too. And as much like a gumi is. 01;08;48;28 - 01;08;50;23 Speaker 2 Where his economy that did make him I think. 01;08;51;06 - 01;09;12;15 Speaker 1 The come to us I can't remember I think they come to us they're pretty good about like taking care of the fans and not being shrewd like, you know, Fox X was with myself, you know, oh hey guys, we know we royally f this up. Here's, you know, one gold item out of the 50 you need to get into dark dimension for how fun. 01;09;12;23 - 01;09;21;17 Speaker 1 They're actually like, Hey, we messed something up. Here's like 12 free summons, 100,000 gold, some crystals, like, go have fun, you know, like, they're not. 01;09;21;23 - 01;09;29;21 Speaker 3 Yeah, but that's they've been it's been very good, you know, non-paid again. I mean, you can you can fight and pay to to do something. 01;09;29;21 - 01;09;32;29 Speaker 1 Sure. They've got they got that sched mapped out to a tee. 01;09;34;04 - 01;09;40;15 Speaker 3 But like I mean I enjoyed it enough where like I bought like the, the monthly pass battle pass where it was like $6. 01;09;40;15 - 01;09;40;27 Speaker 1 Yeah. 01;09;41;18 - 01;09;45;27 Speaker 3 Well, I mean, it's just like whatever ends like $6, I play a game and I play it for a while. 01;09;45;27 - 01;09;48;22 Speaker 1 It's like when I looked at they had like six passes. 01;09;49;04 - 01;09;57;04 Speaker 3 Oh they do 1000 for yeah. But I was like, yeah, but it was one of the, one of the summons that you can get that's really good. I was like, Fuck it, I'll just go for it. Or the $6. 01;09;57;06 - 01;09;58;00 Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean. 01;09;58;00 - 01;10;08;19 Speaker 3 I mean, I'm, I'm having a good time with it. It's fun. Like I can literally have it like whenever I want. And my bosses, like my, my gaming computer is right here and I have my other one. I have it up on steam. 01;10;08;19 - 01;10;10;02 Speaker 4 You're just watching. Don't worry. 01;10;10;20 - 01;10;11;10 Speaker 3 He doesn't watch it. 01;10;11;16 - 01;10;12;15 Speaker 2 Like he's just. 01;10;12;18 - 01;10;13;18 Speaker 3 I just have it. I remember. 01;10;13;18 - 01;10;19;16 Speaker 4 I remember it. Like, I would sometimes be paranoid when I was saying shit, when I was, I thought. You said today if I was like, what? The fucking bosses are watching this. 01;10;19;28 - 01;10;21;27 Speaker 2 Like sucker with the. 01;10;21;27 - 01;10;27;28 Speaker 4 Fucking ego, I think, oh, I don't know. Sitting my boss watching it was like these five people. It's five people in here who's here right now. 01;10;29;17 - 01;10;33;08 Speaker 1 So you never know. There's there's there's people that listen to the Bond. 01;10;33;18 - 01;10;47;13 Speaker 4 Street extreme elements being one of them Commander Root which a the bot must that's a bot that's on every single stream ever. How does that how it is I don't understand how that weak commander root way. No, this isn't the bot. 01;10;48;24 - 01;10;49;18 Speaker 2 This is the bot. 01;10;49;28 - 01;10;50;19 Speaker 4 And it's part. 01;10;52;23 - 01;10;53;16 Speaker 3 Partner bro. 01;10;54;16 - 01;10;57;22 Speaker 4 I'm pretty sure Commander Russo about that at literally every single street you. 01;10;57;22 - 01;10;58;16 Speaker 1 Work at Twitch. 01;10;59;09 - 01;11;00;02 Speaker 4 When you stop it. 01;11;00;28 - 01;11;05;04 Speaker 2 Stop it, just stop it. Just shut the fuck up. 01;11;05;20 - 01;11;11;00 Speaker 3 It's pretty good. That was really good. You got a minute? 01;11;11;00 - 01;11;17;23 Speaker 4 Yes, it was good. Charlie. Yeah. Commander Root is the bot and its partner. That is insane. 01;11;17;23 - 01;11;18;15 Speaker 3 I know how that works. 01;11;19;07 - 01;11;20;02 Speaker 1 Dude. I mean. 01;11;20;15 - 01;11;41;27 Speaker 4 There are a lot of people that watch it. Technically, it's not doing anything wrong. It is a person that set up a command to be to watch streams for statistics. Like if you go to community stream, it just has only statistics of different streamers and you can watch. It's like you watch it. Yeah, that's just weird that they went through the trouble of getting it partnered. 01;11;42;22 - 01;11;47;08 Speaker 4 I mean, that bot has been around on Twitch since 2011. 01;11;47;08 - 01;11;48;04 Speaker 1 Somebody is making money. 01;11;48;04 - 01;11;48;25 Speaker 3 Off whatever it makes. 01;11;48;25 - 01;11;53;08 Speaker 4 Money maybe. But ads on it, it should probably. 01;11;53;08 - 01;11;55;10 Speaker 3 Yeah, it can be like I'm sleeping now. Did you know you. 01;11;55;17 - 01;12;02;21 Speaker 1 Guys happened to did you guys happen to watch the videos on like the new ad thing that they offered to. 01;12;03;28 - 01;12;04;15 Speaker 2 Streamers. 01;12;05;06 - 01;12;07;18 Speaker 3 It's partners thing that's like 19 different ads. 01;12;07;20 - 01;12;33;13 Speaker 1 Yeah yeah. Basically like you can set a limit of a number of ads that it sends out per hour. And if you display that to a certain number of people, they give you like benchmark goals so you can make like play like what is it like 3 minutes of ads to 100 people in an hour and you'll get like an extra $500 or something like that? 01;12;33;13 - 01;12;53;05 Speaker 1 I don't I don't know. The numbers are way that numbers way off. I was obviously wrong on that by I'm just saying like they gave streamers as like benchmarks basically to run ads to their people. And I mean, the ads don't go to subscribers. So it just kind of reinforces two things. Number one, if you don't want to add, subscribe to the channel. 01;12;53;05 - 01;13;04;16 Speaker 1 You like to support the person you're watching. And if they're not, then they're going to profit off of you anyway. So, you know, it's I thought it was good for the streamer, but I don't know. 01;13;05;09 - 01;13;05;28 Speaker 4 I have no idea. 01;13;06;15 - 01;13;08;05 Speaker 3 But that's what start setting up the I'm asleep. 01;13;08;11 - 01;13;26;07 Speaker 1 That's why you that's why you see that that's why you see people doing the I'm asleep or you see people doing stuff like there's a lot of people that do like passive live streams of like Watch Me program or watch paint or doing stuff. It's different stuff like that, watch me make music and they're making money off of it because they're just running ads every hour to anybody. 01;13;26;07 - 01;13;30;29 Speaker 4 That's why I mean, those people are already probably doing those streams because they wouldn't make money off it if they weren't. 01;13;30;29 - 01;13;32;21 Speaker 2 Are some of them and some of them. 01;13;32;21 - 01;13;33;08 Speaker 1 Yes, but. 01;13;33;25 - 01;13;39;14 Speaker 4 No. But I mean, like, if you have a stream, no matter, you're not gonna get any money if you don't watch. 01;13;39;23 - 01;13;41;05 Speaker 3 Three Zoom meetings all day long. 01;13;41;14 - 01;13;54;15 Speaker 4 But like you're not going to have you're not going to have you're gonna make money off of it. If no one's viewing the stream to watch the ads, you know what I mean? So if you're not already having a community, you make money, you know? So I don't. 01;13;54;15 - 01;13;55;00 Speaker 1 Know. Totally. 01;13;55;06 - 01;13;57;17 Speaker 3 Yeah. You all about to get a bunch of Twitter notifications on? 01;13;57;18 - 01;14;15;27 Speaker 1 No dum dum. I hope. I hope I completely agree with you. It's the people that already have a following, that turn, that stuff on and people will go in there either to interact with the community like you said, or they're doing it to support the streamer because they know that the person is making extra money off of it and they're just like, you know, throwing it up on their monitor. 01;14;15;27 - 01;14;25;28 Speaker 1 I do that for my buddy. When he's doing that, I'm always keeping only sleeping thing. I'll throw him up on there just because I know it helps him out. But what's, you know, it's no skin off my back to have an extra stream up on my third monitor. 01;14;25;28 - 01;14;30;28 Speaker 2 So yeah, yeah, yeah. 01;14;30;28 - 01;14;36;04 Speaker 4 I haven't looked to the answer personally. I don't know anything. I mean, like, I don't even own stream anymore. So like. 01;14;36;20 - 01;14;39;01 Speaker 2 Yeah, I thought about the streams, I thought. 01;14;39;01 - 01;14;53;28 Speaker 1 About streaming, playing while and then I thought about how like I get anxious about doing something wrong. And if there was somebody there watching me do that thing wrong, I would probably feel like super guilty about it and get really pissed at myself. So I don't. Sorry. Well, you could just. 01;14;53;28 - 01;14;58;07 Speaker 3 Do two months ago. Not that when I started my last. 01;14;58;07 - 01;15;00;20 Speaker 4 No, as my last drinks two months ago. 01;15;00;20 - 01;15;07;29 Speaker 3 You could do it Josh and just like not enable chat and stuff like look, I'm not responding, I'm just literally doing this and that's it then. 01;15;08;04 - 01;15;12;16 Speaker 4 No, I'll definitely watch you breathing. People watch. Has to have some kind of response. 01;15;12;25 - 01;15;19;09 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody, everybody knows me. They know that. They know that I have the inability to not respond. 01;15;19;09 - 01;15;39;17 Speaker 4 That's why this platform does well, because you could watch a football game and you could see Cam Newton make a a fucking tight play and you're like, Yo, Cam mean, that's awesome. He's going to look at the camera. Hey thanks. Things wish I mean, that's really cool of you to say how's your day going? But you could watch a game or do some cool thing. 01;15;39;17 - 01;16;02;24 Speaker 4 He'd be like, Yo, that was fucking people, pepper boop. That was so cool. And then I go, Oh, thank you. I mean, I really appreciate that. How was your day? Obviously, the level of celebrity is a lot different, but it's still live, real interaction that you're getting. Even some of the big streamers, obviously you have to do the different lengths like you had to like probably like fucking sub or something but they get to those people watching, how could you, how could they see you? 01;16;02;24 - 01;16;26;10 Speaker 4 And there's like 30,000 chats a second. But even then it's possible. Like artus us who's one of the bigger star crossed streamers. Every once in a while, I'll like tip $3, which is the minimum just to say something and have it read out. Usually it's funny, dumb shit making fun of him, but it's there. It's exists, you know. 01;16;26;10 - 01;16;26;25 Speaker 4 Good talk. 01;16;27;18 - 01;16;28;00 Speaker 3 Good talk. 01;16;28;11 - 01;16;47;20 Speaker 1 I was distracted by my lady friends buying some wild gold for me. Oh, excuse me. I would never do that. Anyways, I agree with you wholeheartedly. So I think that for me personally, my favorite thing is that like when I my favorite streamer is a guy named Retro Island Gaming. And the thing I love about him is. 01;16;47;20 - 01;16;48;11 Speaker 2 How. 01;16;50;00 - 01;17;16;05 Speaker 1 He interacts with his chat. It's like nonstop, I mean, he's constantly getting hit with like, you know, like he has this thing where, you know, the shadow. He always wears a wizard hat and like the shadow, like slam the wizard hat off or like they'll do like this wizard duel to like put the hat back. But he's so engaged in his chat and I think that's why he's so successful in this example, is because people are going in there and they love his positivity. 01;17;16;05 - 01;17;39;00 Speaker 1 And I like that too, for me personally. And I mean, he's playing retro games and everybody knows that that's my shirt. So it's I like interacting with those kinds of people if I'm going to be on Twitch, but then like if I'm going to full disclosure, guilty pleasure of mine alinity watches like she's been watching Jersey Shore and so I've been kind of like spectating a little bit of it. 01;17;39;10 - 01;17;41;26 Speaker 1 And I definitely made like, You're right. 01;17;42;13 - 01;17;43;26 Speaker 4 How does she like a DMC for that? 01;17;44;01 - 01;18;00;13 Speaker 1 I don't know. You're right. I actually I've been wondering that she all she does is watch reality TV on there. But and I mean, she's not small. She got like five or 6000 years average anyways. They, you know, I read something in the chat and she read it out loud and I was just like, How the hell did she see that? 01;18;00;27 - 01;18;11;16 Speaker 1 Like, I never I've never talked in a person's chat that has like five, 10,000 times. I'm like, What's the point? You know? But I just like just reactively type something in. And she read it and I was like, What? 01;18;13;03 - 01;18;17;01 Speaker 4 Sorry to interrupt. Have you seen either DMS in our. 01;18;18;01 - 01;18;18;20 Speaker 2 In our. 01;18;19;13 - 01;18;24;17 Speaker 4 Either of our chats via discord or here I have to get going we ran later than the normal. 01;18;24;17 - 01;18;24;26 Speaker 3 Happened. 01;18;24;27 - 01;18;26;05 Speaker 1 Oh, no, I didn't. I'm sorry. 01;18;26;05 - 01;18;28;29 Speaker 4 Yeah, it was just me saying I had to leave, which I said 10 minutes ago. 01;18;29;00 - 01;18;30;15 Speaker 1 No, no, no. I'm so, so sorry. I didn't see it. 01;18;30;29 - 01;18;34;16 Speaker 3 You kind of ran off, and which I have started that yet. I need to do that. If you guys. 01;18;34;18 - 01;18;36;08 Speaker 4 Keep going, you can. I just have to go. 01;18;36;08 - 01;18;36;15 Speaker 2 No. 01;18;37;00 - 01;18;37;21 Speaker 3 Dude, I'm sorry. 01;18;38;01 - 01;18;39;12 Speaker 1 I totally wasn't paying attention. 01;18;39;14 - 01;18;46;18 Speaker 2 No, no. You did nothing wrong. Josh, for privacy, the still chat here. Yeah, well, I just got off. 01;18;46;28 - 01;18;51;21 Speaker 1 Do you have to do you have to do a charity event for rats that are going to. 01;18;51;22 - 01;18;52;05 Speaker 2 I'm kidding. 01;18;52;05 - 01;18;54;24 Speaker 4 I'm kidding. On Sundays. 01;18;54;24 - 01;18;55;13 Speaker 3 I try to do. 01;18;55;14 - 01;18;56;00 Speaker 4 Every class. 01;18;56;00 - 01;18;58;13 Speaker 3 Thank you, everyone, for coming out for this episode of 80. 01;19;00;21 - 01;19;01;26 Speaker 2 786. 01;19;02;18 - 01;19;04;16 Speaker 4 Resolution here in four days. 01;19;04;16 - 01;19;18;19 Speaker 3 Yeah. Episode 86 of the Overachievers Gaming Podcast. I am back and we are joined as always our pastrami and chef KRON Diesel and we'll see you all in two weeks where we talk more about other games and we're. 01;19;18;19 - 01;19;19;05 Speaker 4 Josh Gilmore. 01;19;19;05 - 01;19;22;06 Speaker 3 Spoilers, right? Ragnarok So we can actually talk sports. 01;19;22;07 - 01;19;27;03 Speaker 4 I'm literally well actually now I only have time to start the download now. Sorry, guys. Thanks. Thanks, chef. 01;19;27;22 - 01;19;30;02 Speaker 1 I ruined it. I ruined it for you. There's no point in playing the game. 01;19;30;05 - 01;19;31;00 Speaker 2 Well, go. 01;19;31;07 - 01;19;36;09 Speaker 4 I'm going to go outside and throw the can. I even play on PS4? Is my broom going to blow up? Like, you know what I mean? 01;19;36;14 - 01;19;36;24 Speaker 2 You have the. 01;19;36;24 - 01;19;38;11 Speaker 3 Pro, you have the pro. It'll be fine. 01;19;38;12 - 01;19;38;28 Speaker 4 We'll see. 01;19;39;22 - 01;19;46;19 Speaker 3 We'll see. Yeah, we'll see you there. All right. Thanks, everyone, for coming out. I always appreciate and we'll see you all very soon in two weeks. 01;19;46;19 - 01;19;51;28 Speaker 2 So I later I had. 01;19;51;29 - 01;19;54;08 Speaker 1 Fun with jiu jitsu. Good, sir. 01;19;54;29 - 01;19;56;23 Speaker 4 Thanks, guys. I'll see you later. 01;19;56;23 - 01;20;40;18 Speaker 2 Yep.