00;00;00;00 - 00;00;00;28 Speaker 1 So that this is going to. 00;00;01;25 - 00;00;23;12 Speaker 2 Be I mean, I have to hit record on on street lamps or romance. Now, what am I doing? Squad cars. That's the way to look at work, to actually be on the record, the audio, how to put them out and podcast what everyone else. We normally don't do these live We've been doing these recorded and we're just tuned into it later because I'm like testing something, but it doesn't actually work. 00;00;23;17 - 00;00;30;00 Speaker 2 So I'm because we're talking about spoilers, we don't want people getting spoiled and so on. All right. 00;00;31;02 - 00;00;36;03 Speaker 3 Yeah. So if you haven't watched episode four or five, make sure you don't stay in the switch. Shut. 00;00;36;03 - 00;01;21;07 Speaker 2 Yeah. And if you you should because there was last week and there's another episode today. Yeah we're very excited to watch. So anyway, what's up everybody. Welcome to the Overachievers Gaming podcast. I'm your host of Ash, joined as always by chef Chrono in Ash Pastrami, the Marvel Snap master. 00;01;21;29 - 00;01;24;02 Speaker 3 I used that word and say. 00;01;24;26 - 00;01;26;06 Speaker 2 Yeah, he snapped it up. Right now he's doing. 00;01;26;11 - 00;01;27;22 Speaker 1 My snapping up right now. 00;01;28;09 - 00;01;30;02 Speaker 2 Oh, snap. Anyway, downloading. 00;01;30;06 - 00;01;30;15 Speaker 1 Now. 00;01;30;15 - 00;01;40;27 Speaker 2 Now we are here to talk about episodes four and five of this small indie show called The Last of US. 00;01;41;11 - 00;01;43;04 Speaker 1 Some actors you may never heard of before. 00;01;43;19 - 00;01;48;03 Speaker 2 Some actors you definitely have never seen before. On other Disney store major. 00;01;48;15 - 00;01;51;29 Speaker 1 Major, major shows in television and movies. 00;01;52;06 - 00;02;18;17 Speaker 2 Yeah. So let's just dive right in because we've got two episodes get through and we have half an hour in which to do it. So we're going to run through and talk about this. So episode four for people who Don't remember, was set off with Joel and Allie running through the countryside, gallivanting and sprinting. I'm just getting there after driving in the car and they're seeing, you know, this is when they get into Kansas City, which is different in the game. 00;02;18;17 - 00;02;23;17 Speaker 2 It's Pittsburgh. But you know, where they where they shot this, which I believe is Calgary. 00;02;24;10 - 00;02;26;05 Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah. 00;02;26;05 - 00;02;27;10 Speaker 2 Is is it. 00;02;27;21 - 00;02;28;25 Speaker 1 Supposed to look like Kansas City? 00;02;28;25 - 00;02;48;15 Speaker 2 Yeah, it resembles Kansas City more than it does Pittsburgh. Yeah. Pittsburgh, as you know, is a little bit more denser and whatnot. So which is fine. They've been they've already been deviating from the game a bit and also makes more sense because like, you know, Pittsburgh, Kansas City is like middle country as opposed to Pittsburgh, which is only like 6 hours from Boston. 00;02;48;16 - 00;03;05;02 Speaker 2 The afterlife makes more sense of why they would, you know, just like it shows more elapsing of time, whatnot. So anyway, so they get there and then they had this whole confrontation where I love that they pulled that thing from the game over. Like, you know, the guy was like, help, help, help me. And then they just just run through it. 00;03;05;03 - 00;03;05;18 Speaker 3 Well, also. 00;03;05;18 - 00;03;14;11 Speaker 1 Like also line by lines from episode four was the nudie magazine. Hilarious. Also finding the Hank Williams cassette. 00;03;14;11 - 00;03;19;08 Speaker 2 I'm so glad that they did include that. So I didn't know if they're going to continue both images. 00;03;19;23 - 00;03;20;24 Speaker 1 Which is hilarious. 00;03;21;22 - 00;03;41;25 Speaker 2 Yeah, but I just really, really liking like the dynamics that they're really building towards. They're kind of they're really, at least in episode four, they hint at it. And in episode five, we talk about it, they really talk about they really hint at, you know, the whole, you know, loss of innocence and Joel becoming a protector now as opposed to just being cargo. 00;03;41;27 - 00;03;48;05 Speaker 2 So which is just like why they're kind of going for it. But then, you know, in episode four. 00;03;48;05 - 00;03;48;16 Speaker 3 Where. 00;03;49;25 - 00;03;56;19 Speaker 2 We are introduced to a new person, Kathleen, who is played by him term or her name. 00;03;56;28 - 00;03;58;11 Speaker 1 Same, She's in so much shit. 00;03;59;00 - 00;04;12;04 Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm really blanking on the name, but anyway, she, she is like in the game. You're like up against Federer. And so there's really no resistance outside of the fireflies. But I really like. 00;04;12;10 - 00;04;13;09 Speaker 1 Hunters, right? 00;04;13;18 - 00;04;14;24 Speaker 2 Yeah, there's Hunter. Oh, yeah. 00;04;14;24 - 00;04;16;17 Speaker 1 And these are kind of supposed to be hunters, aren't they? 00;04;17;03 - 00;04;20;17 Speaker 2 Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. Supposed to be a little bit Melanie Lynskey. 00;04;20;17 - 00;04;21;06 Speaker 1 That's her name. Yeah. 00;04;21;25 - 00;04;52;12 Speaker 2 Personified as like hunters. Why not? You know, just resistance and whatnot. And then they, you know, they make an untimely habit, untimely demise to sort. But I just like how they're showcasing, like how other societies have played out and also how like there's, you know, people essentially like, you know, everyone thinks that they would do a better job than the powers that be only to, like, fall back into the exact same thing that, you know, the previous regime. 00;04;52;15 - 00;04;52;27 Speaker 2 And it was. 00;04;53;26 - 00;05;09;05 Speaker 1 Also yeah, because I think in the well we don't find it out in I guess we do a little bit in episode four of how terrible terrible Fred Federal was in Kansas City specifically compared to like the federal we see in Boston are just like shitty authoritative. 00;05;09;07 - 00;05;15;07 Speaker 3 Yeah, but it's just a controlled area. I mean, like they're, they're not like, oppressed. I mean, yes, kind of the way I. 00;05;15;07 - 00;05;16;21 Speaker 1 Mean, well, they you think about the. 00;05;16;23 - 00;05;20;21 Speaker 3 Not as not as bad as they're not as much as is depicted in the Kansas City. 00;05;20;23 - 00;05;42;13 Speaker 1 Area. When you get to Kansas City, there's like Rabe tortured a fucking black bag like kidnaps and shit. So there's like, definitely like there was a I don't want to say a more extreme cause for resistance, but like, you know, that's obviously some fucked up shit. But I mean, yeah, we'll talk the talk about how the resistance changes because we really see the resistance being outwardly terrible in episode four. 00;05;42;13 - 00;05;51;18 Speaker 1 It's more so episode five, but it is really interesting that, well, actually everything I talk about more so is episode five. So whenever I keep going what you're saying. 00;05;51;28 - 00;05;52;05 Speaker 2 You know. 00;05;53;02 - 00;06;23;07 Speaker 3 My favorite, my favorite part of episode four is when they crash the car and in the game this is they almost nailed the angle and everything in which Joel has to basically save him and Ellie. And the stark difference between the game in the show is when Trey is going to enter the the screaming contest. But Joel, like, gets attacked by a guy and he's like kind of losing. 00;06;23;07 - 00;06;40;07 Speaker 3 And Ellie comes in and shoots the dude. That's definitely okay. So in the game, the way it happens is that something happens where Joel gets knocked out by a infected and his gun is like in a pool of water and he can't get it. And the infected is like, you know, about to get him. And Ellie comes up and shoots it. 00;06;40;14 - 00;06;59;20 Speaker 3 So they effectively replace that scene, which is a very important scene in the game, because that's the first time that Joel gives Ellie a gun. And, you know, he kind of gave her one early in the TV show. And I was wondering how they were going to spin her kind of doing her first kill, I guess so to say. 00;07;00;02 - 00;07;13;20 Speaker 3 And that is how they depicted it. And I thought it was pretty good. They nailed it, in my opinion. But I love how like the guy, the car and he's like, go hide in the wall. And she kind of hesitates for a second and he's just like, Do what I tell you to do. And she does what he tells her to do. 00;07;13;20 - 00;07;32;07 Speaker 3 And then he just like, goes on. It does as bad as Joel, shit kills everybody. And great, great, great depiction of that whole scene because it's in the game. That was a pretty, pretty huge turning point. And now I remember dying there several times, but that was those part of my favorite part of the whole the whole episode for. 00;07;33;26 - 00;07;55;04 Speaker 2 Yeah, there's a lot of good you start to see the, the character development change go like you're along for the ride with these characters. You start to, you know, in the middle of the season ish because it's only nine episodes. So you start to really understand and get a sense for what what the characters are up against, the stakes that are there and why, you know, everything's so important. 00;07;55;04 - 00;08;13;13 Speaker 2 You know, what's, what's essentially what's happening. And it's just the realistic aspect of like, you know, the guy, like not, you know, in the game. He kind of like people call out for like this is more so in part two of the game where you actually hear like the other people call out the other, you know, people's names. 00;08;13;13 - 00;08;30;21 Speaker 2 They get like, oh shit, they got Kevin, you know, that sort of thing. So it's just like you kind of hear that in the background of like and it just gives it more life to the show and not just be like, okay, I killed a bad guy, blah, blah, blah, whatever. Like, you don't know, like you could be someone who's a resistance fighter or terrorist depending on how you look at it. 00;08;30;21 - 00;08;37;10 Speaker 2 So it's just it's just great. It's just such good writing. And so the writing is really telling. 00;08;37;10 - 00;08;38;07 Speaker 1 The writing is so good. 00;08;38;13 - 00;08;53;26 Speaker 3 I like that they had the I like the they had the actor that played, Oh my God, why is John's brother's name escapes me and me like the guy that originally played the voice actor for Tommy was Catherine's right hand man. 00;08;54;01 - 00;09;01;24 Speaker 1 I mean, apparently they're on the show, Larry, and there will be more about it. There will be. There's like more voice actors that will be coming into the show as just other people. 00;09;01;24 - 00;09;17;24 Speaker 3 Well, Charlie, I think you mentioned that the oh, my God, why am I blanking on all of the character's names right now and North? Yeah. Yeah. So the two that's the head of of Fireflies was actually the character that played the during the show, during the game. 00;09;17;24 - 00;09;18;23 Speaker 2 Played Marlin. 00;09;18;29 - 00;09;19;19 Speaker 3 Right, right. 00;09;19;21 - 00;09;21;02 Speaker 2 So that's I mean, it's. 00;09;21;02 - 00;09;22;13 Speaker 1 Actually that's exactly the voice that. 00;09;22;18 - 00;09;31;28 Speaker 3 I'm glad that they pulled these same people out because they did such a good job with it in the game that I'm glad that they get to see the the big screen. 00;09;32;27 - 00;09;34;10 Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah. They get to bring it full circle. 00;09;34;10 - 00;09;58;22 Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah. It definitely brings a level of authenticity to the TV show that a lot. I mean, I feel like fans of the game are noticing and, you know, it makes us it's kind of like pleasing the fans or a little sad fan service. But the people that don't know that, they just get to see these people that are doing really good at their roles because they kind of are those people, so to say. 00;09;59;03 - 00;10;15;22 Speaker 1 Or at least they've just been in that world. Yeah, might not even be like, like Marlene's is. And she was that person, right? But like the other ones, they're just they just were a part of that world for a bit, you know, So they understand some of, some of the dynamics of that already built world from somewhere else. 00;10;15;22 - 00;10;32;00 Speaker 2 Yeah. And then you have guy who plays Joel in the game Nolan North he's his I think it's Nolan or is that is that Uncharted or is he is he's actually in the game or he's in the show later on which we won't get to but like when it's more of a snow country. 00;10;32;19 - 00;10;36;21 Speaker 3 Oh yeah yeah. I think it's actually the next episode, if I'm not mistaken. 00;10;36;21 - 00;10;40;14 Speaker 2 Well, I think this is I think tonight's episode goes in to. 00;10;41;26 - 00;10;43;03 Speaker 1 The Troy Baker. 00;10;43;24 - 00;10;44;10 Speaker 2 For Baker. 00;10;44;10 - 00;10;57;00 Speaker 1 So I also did, I think Troy Biggers also always the Joker. Oh, yeah. He is a really good joker. He was he was the Joker and I think Arkham stuff. Yeah, Sorry, I couldn't, you know. 00;10;57;18 - 00;11;08;20 Speaker 2 I think it's either might be that or it's going into the left, the left behind aspect of it. You know, when they talk about Tommy's dam. Oh. 00;11;10;02 - 00;11;16;03 Speaker 1 You mean the trailer. The trailer for, for episode six showed It showed when they meet back up to me. I don't. 00;11;16;03 - 00;11;29;29 Speaker 2 Know. That's true. Yeah, I forgot about the damn part where they got to go and, like, restore the dam where they find Tommy at the dam. I can't. I can't remember what it is I had in the game. But yeah. And I think, I think you're right. I mean, they go meet up with him tonight, but we won't get. 00;11;30;00 - 00;11;47;04 Speaker 2 We won't spoil it too much until we get some this stuff anyway. Yeah. So you know, there's a lot of worldbuilding and setting up of Kansas City and the stakes of the entire time during that episode. Even though I know how that how it happens is like, how the fuck are they going to get out of this? Yeah, I had no idea. 00;11;47;05 - 00;12;07;19 Speaker 2 It's like they're stuck there in a town, you know, It's just like, you know, how are they going to navigate this entire thing? So it's just like really good at building anxiety and whatnot. So but they have, with the end of the episode, ends with them, like trying to go up to a skyscraper to get a better aspect. 00;12;07;19 - 00;12;18;05 Speaker 2 And then they wake up with Henry and Sam holding them at gunpoint, which we'll get into episode five now. So any other notes on episode four now? 00;12;18;07 - 00;12;18;19 Speaker 1 I was tell. 00;12;18;19 - 00;12;19;25 Speaker 3 You it is any working. 00;12;20;13 - 00;12;23;23 Speaker 2 Anywhere. She is the voice actors for Tess that's the way. 00;12;24;08 - 00;12;26;29 Speaker 3 Oh Oh that's right. Okay. That happened recently too. 00;12;27;16 - 00;12;58;10 Speaker 2 Yeah. I believe that's who it is. But I'm. I could be. I could be, but I'm not very good with numbers. A much better, much better with. But anyway, so episode five, Episode five essentially tells the story of Sam and Henry, which I actually like how they incorporated that as like, you know, Sam and Henry were or Henry was, you know, a part of the essentially, what do you call it, a contributor. 00;12;58;10 - 00;13;36;23 Speaker 2 I think it was collaborator. Collaborator, Collaborator. Yes, yes, yes. Thank you, though. So he's a collaborator, which means he was like giving information to Pedro, working with Pedro to help out people and really just kind of gave it higher stakes. I don't remember what happened in the game between Sam and Henry with Joel. I know that they they switch things up and made Sam deaf, which I really thought made the entire, you know, made the dynamic really great because it made it required Sam to rely on Henry more than just being like another person. 00;13;36;25 - 00;13;40;17 Speaker 3 I also sort of made the episode a little bit. It gave it a little bit of depth, you know? 00;13;41;22 - 00;14;02;04 Speaker 2 Yeah, it gave a reason for it and it just really made the ending of that episode like way more heartbreaking than it was. So but essentially with that, they were just going through and having some plans to get out out of episode I'm sorry, getting out of getting out of. 00;14;03;03 - 00;14;03;16 Speaker 1 Kansas. 00;14;03;23 - 00;14;13;20 Speaker 2 City, the town. Thank you, sir. And then trying to get, you know, go through all the the tunnels and whatnot. I was like, really like, well, they went through the tunnels. I was expecting them to get, like. 00;14;13;28 - 00;14;41;08 Speaker 3 Sort I expected it to be like a bombardment. Like, I didn't expect it to be kind of a walk in the park like it was for them. But the following scene definitely is, y you know. Right, exactly. Which is interesting because when they, they, I think in episode four, there was a moment where Catherine went into a jail cell of some sort and there was like a pool. 00;14;41;23 - 00;14;54;02 Speaker 1 Wound on the ground. No, no. That wasn't the jail cell. That was when they were just looking at Terri, her right hand. Tommy's voice showed her a crater that was being formed. 00;14;54;04 - 00;14;59;07 Speaker 3 Right, Right. Which which building? Which is what ends up being the. But I mean, as. 00;14;59;07 - 00;15;03;24 Speaker 1 We learned in episode five that. Right. They pushed all of the infected underground. 00;15;04;05 - 00;15;05;24 Speaker 3 Yeah. So explain. 00;15;05;25 - 00;15;06;23 Speaker 1 The years ago. 00;15;06;23 - 00;15;08;14 Speaker 3 And they were wondering where they were. 00;15;08;25 - 00;15;31;16 Speaker 1 So one else, I think I think probably the higher echelons of the hunter like of the resistance and they probably knew about the the infected being I mean, I'm sure actually everybody that knew about in in Kansas City knew that federal pushed the infected underground because I'm sure that Federer probably touted that as like a great thing that they did was they got rid of the infected. 00;15;31;16 - 00;15;49;01 Speaker 1 But it comes I think, of a very interesting, very interesting thing here is, you know, toward the end, obviously, we see the just a massive wall of infected come out, which I'm skipping a little bit ahead of some of this episode, but I'm only saying this because the biggest reveal is we see a blowtorch come out of the ground. 00;15;49;08 - 00;16;21;20 Speaker 1 But I'm thinking like if these infected were underground there for 15 years, there was probably like dozens, if not hundreds of like big other, bigger like other blowers and other like crazy infected just because of the evolution of the infection. Yeah. And in this world build like we saw one and obviously there's probably just more shit like, you know, CGI reasons and all that stuff for like, there's probably like so many other terrible things down there because of how long they were just all cramped in a space like, like that, like going on. 00;16;21;25 - 00;16;29;11 Speaker 3 Yeah, but yeah. Hey man, in the in the game. Well, I mean, actually that's Charlie. Remind me, is the gym the first time you see a loader? 00;16;29;23 - 00;16;30;06 Speaker 2 Yes. Yeah. 00;16;30;09 - 00;16;48;19 Speaker 3 Yeah. So? So that was. That was what I was really excited about. I guess they're not. They're not going to go that that way because it was with Bill. So they I thought the reveal was pretty good. It was a little they could have done a little more with it. I mean, considering the blower has several attack moves in the game that are pretty good fighting the killers. 00;16;48;19 - 00;16;50;11 Speaker 3 So I'm sure we'll see him in and. 00;16;50;13 - 00;17;03;14 Speaker 1 Talk about I doubt we'll ever will ever see our our protagonists actually fight against bigger, badder, infected other than clickers and runners. 00;17;03;14 - 00;17;04;18 Speaker 3 Why do you why do you think that? 00;17;04;28 - 00;17;15;05 Speaker 1 Because when you get attacked by a blade or in the game, you can get punched in the head and like you put a bandage on and suddenly your health is back, back to normal. But like in the real world, that's obviously not how that shit works. Yeah, that's. 00;17;15;05 - 00;17;15;14 Speaker 3 True. 00;17;15;14 - 00;17;23;23 Speaker 1 So it's either going to be like fucking a crazy explosion that kills a border, but it's not going to be like it's going to be like how a game will be and it can't be. You can't emulate that. You can't. 00;17;24;03 - 00;17;29;05 Speaker 3 You mean you don't want to show like a like a five minute gunfight where he's just repeatedly shooting it and. 00;17;29;28 - 00;17;48;19 Speaker 1 Yeah, something that's not something that he doesn't look good. If you get hit with the spore bomb and like you die in the game, like, you know, that's you can't emulate that on screen. It's going to be a fast thing. Right. And I think also like the scene we saw of the like the hundreds of infected, probably even thousands for all we know, coming out of the ground. 00;17;48;19 - 00;18;00;29 Speaker 1 And then the blow are just like wrecking house is is more of a realistic way. I think they could have shown and I think there was really well a well-done way to show that shit He had the little clicker girl down this it was Kansas City. 00;18;00;29 - 00;18;02;12 Speaker 3 Kansas City is not safe anymore. 00;18;02;24 - 00;18;04;03 Speaker 1 Yeah exactly exactly. 00;18;05;00 - 00;18;06;22 Speaker 3 But I'll are gradually. 00;18;07;04 - 00;18;18;19 Speaker 2 I was going to say the the sticking to the border and you're saying about you know the one you know attack moves or whatever I did like did they put in the the old death because that's what happens in the game like we get you he grabs you by the. 00;18;19;11 - 00;18;20;02 Speaker 3 Ripple. Your head. 00;18;20;13 - 00;18;22;11 Speaker 2 Is over up your head and half as. 00;18;22;14 - 00;18;30;15 Speaker 3 Yeah he'll literally grab you by your mouth and then just literally pull your head apart, like from where your jaw is. Just. Yeah, it's pretty brutal though. 00;18;30;15 - 00;18;35;13 Speaker 2 It is pretty brutal, but I'm glad that they left it and they see it. I mean, there's not focus, but it's out of out of it. 00;18;35;13 - 00;18;38;05 Speaker 3 Still, the message was well received. Yes. 00;18;39;07 - 00;18;47;04 Speaker 2 Yeah. It was really just I would just like little nods. Like I liked how they just incorporating these things across the board from the game. Yeah. Keeping things true to the story. 00;18;47;11 - 00;18;50;23 Speaker 3 Was Catherine's character, was she actually in the. I don't remember. 00;18;50;24 - 00;18;51;12 Speaker 1 How she's not. 00;18;52;00 - 00;19;06;19 Speaker 3 Looking into that. I know she wasn't, but was there. I truly can't because this was a while ago I played it. There wasn't a federal agent that represented her right? I don't think so. This is just a completely this is an adaptation of the TV series. Completely. 00;19;07;13 - 00;19;08;09 Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah. 00;19;09;12 - 00;19;15;12 Speaker 2 It just makes it more realistic and grounded as opposed to them just running around fighting infected and hunters. 00;19;15;17 - 00;19;26;29 Speaker 3 Yeah, I love how like some there were people actually complaining on the internet. I mean, this is how like silly people are, but there were actually people complaining that she did not have the body of a post. I know it. 00;19;26;29 - 00;19;44;11 Speaker 1 Wasn't just people. It was actually another prominent actress that God was shit on for doing that. She was showing a post post like the World. You're you're awfully like a thick like some bullsht. It was it's such a shit even. And she's like just like I think the woman the actress. Was it Melanie or I? Of course. I just looked her up. 00;19;45;23 - 00;19;47;07 Speaker 1 It's like a fuck yourself. 00;19;47;22 - 00;19;50;17 Speaker 3 Dude. It was a pretty stupid comment. I mean, such. 00;19;50;17 - 00;19;51;20 Speaker 1 A stupid fucking thing to say. 00;19;51;20 - 00;20;03;07 Speaker 3 She looks pretty fucking post-apocalyptic in the in the show. They made her look pretty. I don't wanna say rundowns, not the word, but you know what I mean. She's, like, covered in dirt. And yeah, you're like. 00;20;03;08 - 00;20;04;19 Speaker 1 You look grimy and gritty and you're. 00;20;04;22 - 00;20;07;18 Speaker 3 Never seen, you know, you've never seen, like, curvy people in. 00;20;07;22 - 00;20;17;23 Speaker 1 In that way. I just thought I would just be an asshole. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, like, fuck that person or the ding dong piece of. 00;20;17;29 - 00;20;25;12 Speaker 2 Of all the things that I did not expect there to be in the in the show was the sniper sequence. I had no Oh. 00;20;25;12 - 00;20;26;15 Speaker 3 That was so good. 00;20;26;28 - 00;20;28;27 Speaker 2 I did not. I was like I was not expecting that there. 00;20;29;04 - 00;20;37;19 Speaker 3 Were he actually like hides behind the car and then ducks around to the left of the car. I mean, that's literally how you do it in the game. Like it's literally the whole like. 00;20;37;27 - 00;20;40;00 Speaker 2 And he goes left, which is what you do in the game. 00;20;40;04 - 00;21;01;20 Speaker 3 That's exactly right. And he goes around the left side of the building. I mean, the only difference is, is in the game you're countered by a few infected while you're trying to get there. But actually, correct me, but the scene where you're like sitting there and you're actually shooting, you're not shooting the people, you're shooting the infected as Ellie and the others are trying to survive. 00;21;01;22 - 00;21;21;23 Speaker 1 Well, I remember from the game because I never played it. I've only watch video clips of it. But also remember at one point, don't they shoot at a like the I don't know if it's fed whoever it is that's chasing them to alert the infected. They swarm a car and shit. Yeah, that was a part. Yeah, obviously. I mean, the whole arc with this one, there just wasn't any infected yet to come out and to do stuff with. 00;21;22;06 - 00;21;36;06 Speaker 3 Well, the way they did it because of the way they did it, I mean they in the game they didn't come out, I mean maybe they did come out of the ground, but it wasn't that whole like the surplus of infected out of the ground was not a part of the game, which is cool. I thought the way that they did it. 00;21;36;15 - 00;21;37;04 Speaker 1 Was while the. 00;21;37;05 - 00;21;37;27 Speaker 3 Protesters. 00;21;37;28 - 00;21;44;03 Speaker 1 Yeah, they like like rats coming out of a hole. They tripping over each other. Going over each other? Yeah. Really? Really? Yeah. 00;21;44;06 - 00;22;03;09 Speaker 3 Actually, like in capture, it encapsulates like, the essence of, like, what you would fear the most out of something like that. Like if you're all out in the middle of nowhere and there's just eruption of like a swarm of in fact you come out of the ground, like that would literally be the scariest shit you could possibly imagine. 00;22;03;09 - 00;22;14;08 Speaker 1 So, Oh my God, it's crazy. And the only thing I mean, like, obviously, like in a moment of being scared, you get scared, like, what can you do? But like, the second that cars are to fall and you heard that shit, it's like, get in the fucking cars. 00;22;14;20 - 00;22;32;19 Speaker 3 Get the guys. Let's Damn, dude, time to. Time to go. Time to go. Yeah. There was a similar there's a similar scene in the Resident Evil series they just recently did where they were all out in the military. People were all out and they got attacked by clickers and it's the same thing. They're all outside of their cars shooting these things. 00;22;32;19 - 00;22;36;03 Speaker 3 I'm like, Get in the cars. You all like, What are you doing, dude? Like, Let's go. Oh. 00;22;36;22 - 00;22;48;05 Speaker 1 Yeah. I think I wonder if, like, it's not like outright said, but I one of the implication all the infected after they're finished in that area you see them start running towards the way the cars came. So I wonder if that means that like Kansas City is the whatever. 00;22;48;05 - 00;22;49;01 Speaker 3 Oh yeah. Kansas City. 00;22;49;03 - 00;22;49;18 Speaker 1 Just done. 00;22;49;18 - 00;22;58;23 Speaker 3 For. Yeah, for sure. Like they're they that was it. Like they, I mean they got in the queues so like they're, they're all dunzo for sure. Yep. 00;22;59;11 - 00;22;59;18 Speaker 1 Yep. 00;23;01;03 - 00;23;12;14 Speaker 3 So they wait and then the way that the episode ended was definitely as brutal as I remember it in the game, because I remember when I played it in the game, the. 00;23;13;07 - 00;23;13;13 Speaker 1 It's. 00;23;13;13 - 00;23;36;12 Speaker 3 Hard gets the kid gets infected and he kills, he kills the kid and then he has this like look and he does shoot himself in the head thing. And I, they Neal they, they, they nailed that scene to the tee. Yes. And, and my friend who obviously has not seen it was just like, well shit, I guess I can't get I can't get into any of these characters because none of them stick around longer than one episode. 00;23;36;12 - 00;23;41;21 Speaker 3 I was like, That's the last of us, you know? Like, that's literally the game show. 00;23;42;00 - 00;23;42;08 Speaker 1 That. 00;23;42;14 - 00;23;57;21 Speaker 3 I remember specifically thinking that to myself when he shot himself in the head in the game. I was just like, Well, shit, man. Like, we just survived all this epic shit and you're just going to blow your brains out like that. Like, Oh, man. Yeah, but I'm the man. 00;23;57;29 - 00;24;20;14 Speaker 1 Henry, In saying, we're also just super great actors, Like, Henry was really good, and I really like the actually the, like the kind of but switch. But there is like kind of a coming around of Joel at the start of it when Henry tells me as a collaborator and and Joel that the like even like I don't work with rats or something and like then like coming around towards the end and it's like, you know, what would you have done? 00;24;20;15 - 00;24;22;22 Speaker 1 You know, my, I was protecting my little brother, you. 00;24;22;22 - 00;24;24;09 Speaker 3 Know, humanizes him a little bit. 00;24;25;00 - 00;24;25;18 Speaker 1 Yeah. Would that. 00;24;26;02 - 00;24;26;27 Speaker 3 Humanizes them. 00;24;26;29 - 00;24;27;20 Speaker 1 And you realize, I mean. 00;24;28;20 - 00;24;36;02 Speaker 3 Sure, it makes them relate. It makes them relatable to Joel. Yeah. Like Joel. Joel understands why he did it right. 00;24;36;02 - 00;24;51;07 Speaker 1 And I think it's really cool that I think that just the the kind of like warming of Joel every episode where he's kind of like becoming more, more, more, less fucking cold than shit is really nice. 00;24;51;07 - 00;24;56;16 Speaker 3 I mean, that's definitely how the game is. Do the you, you feel it like gradually over time? 00;24;57;28 - 00;24;59;00 Speaker 1 Oh, I didn't realize. 00;24;59;00 - 00;24;59;10 Speaker 3 Yeah. 00;24;59;11 - 00;25;05;29 Speaker 1 That's actually straying from earlier when they were in that underground kid's playroom. She was wearing that Blue's Clues shirt. Well, I think. Realize that. 00;25;06;02 - 00;25;08;18 Speaker 3 Yeah. 00;25;08;18 - 00;25;09;06 Speaker 1 Interesting. 00;25;09;29 - 00;25;18;00 Speaker 2 Sorry. Amazon package that showed up. They needed some passcode. That a new thing you're doing? Hmm. I you don't work for Amazon or. 00;25;18;00 - 00;25;21;10 Speaker 3 Yeah. Come on, man. Okay. 00;25;24;01 - 00;25;24;10 Speaker 2 All right. 00;25;24;10 - 00;25;34;24 Speaker 3 So you actually do you know where it is done? I'm not even going to react. So anyways, what you're saying, Charlie. 00;25;35;10 - 00;25;36;26 Speaker 2 I wasn't able to listen. 00;25;36;26 - 00;26;00;03 Speaker 3 So we were talking about a scene where Henry and Sam shoot themselves and or the death scene, and then you're talking about the relation between Joel or the scene where Joel kind of tells kind of, but he tells Henry why or Henry tells Joel why he saved his little brother and all that kind of stuff. It's it's. 00;26;00;18 - 00;26;00;28 Speaker 2 Yeah. 00;26;01;27 - 00;26;19;28 Speaker 1 It's like and just the dynamic of of Joel and Henry from episode 45 and like they kind of coming around from both Joel accepting them into the group and then at first admonishing Henry for being a collaborator and then also then being like, You're okay, you can I. 00;26;19;28 - 00;26;41;14 Speaker 3 Remember I remember that scene in the game where you're in the sniper tower and I remember how many times I fucked up and I accidentally shot Ellie or Sam and I'd have to restart the whole thing over. That was actually a really pain in the ass area. But they did it right. They definitely did. I, I was. I was out for some reason. 00;26;41;14 - 00;26;57;26 Speaker 3 I had such a nerd boner about the fact that they had him go left around the vehicles, just like. Just like the game, you know? I mean, it's really it's real. It's it's it's just good to see that they're actually really sticking to like, even though they can't, you know, you can't film what goes on in the games. 00;26;57;26 - 00;27;10;13 Speaker 1 It's just it can never be it can never be like it can never be like tit for tat can ever be like boom, boom. You know? I mean, there's going to have to be changes just because that's how they like, right? 00;27;10;13 - 00;27;17;12 Speaker 3 So they have to find creative ways to do that. The callbacks to it. And they're pretty much doing pretty sick out of it, if you ask me. 00;27;17;12 - 00;27;18;20 Speaker 1 Yeah, not killing it. 00;27;18;25 - 00;27;20;22 Speaker 2 It has great adaptations for sure. 00;27;20;28 - 00;27;24;16 Speaker 1 Yes. And all the changes that they made have made sense. 00;27;24;16 - 00;27;26;18 Speaker 2 I think it's made it better. Yeah. 00;27;26;18 - 00;27;28;27 Speaker 1 If anything have made it a little better, right? 00;27;29;11 - 00;27;40;19 Speaker 2 Yeah. I mean, that's that's what Neil Druckman said in episode two and behind the scenes. Have you ever watched the bit like the after thing where, like they talk about how they, how they do it and they're like, do interviews. One, I highly recommend it because yes. 00;27;40;19 - 00;27;40;23 Speaker 1 The. 00;27;40;23 - 00;27;41;11 Speaker 2 Vacancy. 00;27;41;14 - 00;27;41;22 Speaker 1 Rate. 00;27;42;10 - 00;28;01;02 Speaker 2 Is they said like, you know, if I'm misinterpreting, but it's along the lines of misremembering. It's along the lines of like, you know, if it's you know, if there's an idea that we have and it doesn't make it better, we stick to the game. But if there's an idea we have and it does make the story better, we we deter from the game, which I think is the correct way to do it. 00;28;01;03 - 00;28;16;06 Speaker 2 So because the game is so has such a claims to it that they have to do it properly and honestly. That's what people should be doing for any sort of adaptation anyway is like stick to the source material if you can make it better, do it. But if it doesn't, then don't do it because it's like. 00;28;16;15 - 00;28;16;24 Speaker 1 Right. 00;28;17;08 - 00;28;34;03 Speaker 2 Otherwise you're just doing a disservice to whatever and the fans and know have, you know, upset stuff went on. So I'm very curious to see, not to talk about, not to go on a slight I change, but I'm like, I'm curious to see what they do about the Mario movie. So what's that like off. 00;28;36;14 - 00;28;37;06 Speaker 1 The fucking station. 00;28;37;12 - 00;28;38;05 Speaker 3 Did you guys see the. 00;28;38;05 - 00;28;41;12 Speaker 1 Fucking SNL skit of Pedro Pascal? Being Mario is better. It's so. 00;28;41;12 - 00;28;58;08 Speaker 3 Good. It's so good. I know he's not only did they. I thought that was so great about the Pedro. I mean, this is part of what we're talking about here with the skit was them doing Mario in the Last of US and that shit was really freaking funny, Like, really fucking funny. Do you ever watch it? You need to go check it out. 00;28;58;23 - 00;29;06;03 Speaker 2 Yeah, but have you guys you get through towards the end of everything or not yet of what was about episode five. 00;29;06;25 - 00;29;07;13 Speaker 3 Well, we talk. I mean. 00;29;07;13 - 00;29;08;26 Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm pretty much it. I feel. 00;29;08;26 - 00;29;10;21 Speaker 3 Like Kansas City is pretty much Dunzo. 00;29;11;08 - 00;29;11;27 Speaker 2 And Kansas. 00;29;11;27 - 00;29;16;28 Speaker 3 City and Sam and Harry. Sam shoot them. So I'll Sam gets bit by an infected freaks out. 00;29;18;26 - 00;29;20;22 Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah. They said harsh. 00;29;21;14 - 00;29;41;25 Speaker 3 I do like how I do like how they did the same kind of little scene where they're burying him at the end and she in the game. I think she puts something different in his grave, not the little Etch a Sketch thing, but she puts something else in his grave. I can't remember what it was, So I liked that they. 00;29;41;25 - 00;29;52;27 Speaker 3 They still did that throwback and it's like the only time you're going to see it. And this is kind of when you're going to see Ellie's childhood childlike. 00;29;52;27 - 00;29;53;14 Speaker 2 Innocence. 00;29;53;21 - 00;30;03;27 Speaker 3 Years kind of go away because that's what it was in the game. So, you know, she kind of a little bit of her dies inside when she when when Sam gets killed. So is a. 00;30;04;00 - 00;30;14;04 Speaker 2 Flurry about yeah I was leery about the comment on that as well and the duck man 88 saying and Joe saying how'd you like the effort of Ellie to try trying to heal him? 00;30;14;07 - 00;30;15;07 Speaker 3 Oh, right. 00;30;15;17 - 00;30;33;10 Speaker 2 Yeah. I thought that was just like, you know, she's trying. She very much wants to be like, you know, have a reason and say like, Hey, my blood is medicine, blah, blah, blah. She tries to do it. It doesn't work. I kind of like that. They kept it in, like, realistically, because it's like that wouldn't have I mean, that seems like something that would happen in a game, but not necessarily in real life. 00;30;33;10 - 00;30;33;20 Speaker 2 And I'm like. 00;30;33;20 - 00;30;34;12 Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah. 00;30;34;13 - 00;30;41;00 Speaker 2 That more realistic be like if you're suddenly healed and you're like, what the Yeah. He would have been, would have gotten weird where it was. 00;30;41;00 - 00;30;41;28 Speaker 1 So yeah. 00;30;41;28 - 00;30;51;22 Speaker 2 But I won't get into the reasons like they go into what that is, but it's not necessarily like her blood is. 00;30;52;21 - 00;30;52;25 Speaker 1 The. 00;30;52;29 - 00;31;11;13 Speaker 2 Healing. Don't get into doing stuff. It's just like this other thing. So but yeah, and it's just like, you know, this kind of starts off and you know, Ellie just kind of ends it with being like, shell shocked essentially, because they just had these the first human interaction they've had that people who weren't trying to kill them, this is the route it goes. 00;31;11;13 - 00;31;31;06 Speaker 3 So they just talked about Joe and Joel joined Henry and just talked about taking the journey together, basically. Yeah. And, you know, there was kind of like this lighthearted moment of like, okay, we got some people we can roll with for a little bit and not so much, which is very on brand for the Last of US. 00;31;31;06 - 00;32;01;17 Speaker 2 So yeah, yeah. But I'm really I'm really looking forward to see what tonight's episode brings because it's just going to be another gut punch. It just, it's just what's going to happen. So I'm curious, I don't remember what's what happens at this point in the game when they get to when they find Tommy. I don't I don't really remember the ending of the game, but I know they're doing some flashback stuff with with Ellie to introduce. 00;32;01;17 - 00;32;04;01 Speaker 2 Oh, what's her name? The girl that she. 00;32;04;08 - 00;32;04;21 Speaker 3 Dana. 00;32;04;27 - 00;32;08;27 Speaker 2 Was in love with. I can't remember if she wants Deena well know. 00;32;08;27 - 00;32;11;13 Speaker 3 Deena's the girl in the last of us, too. That she. 00;32;11;25 - 00;32;16;05 Speaker 2 No, no, no, not Deena. It's like when she's a kid, right? And when she gets bit the first time. 00;32;17;01 - 00;32;18;06 Speaker 3 Oh, I don't remember. They find. 00;32;18;06 - 00;32;22;29 Speaker 2 Out. Yeah, that's how they. That's how they find out they're doing that flashback. It was a DLC from The Last of US, which talks. 00;32;23;05 - 00;32;25;07 Speaker 3 Oh, you know what? I never played that DLC. 00;32;25;07 - 00;32;28;11 Speaker 2 Yeah, it's great. And it talks about. It's kind of like left behind. 00;32;28;11 - 00;32;30;28 Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah, That's basically her whole backstory. 00;32;31;26 - 00;32;42;27 Speaker 2 Yeah. So, yeah. And I think that was the the, the woman who played Ellie, her voice. Ellie is actually playing like Ellie's mom in this one. 00;32;42;28 - 00;32;43;19 Speaker 3 Oh, really? 00;32;43;27 - 00;32;46;05 Speaker 2 Yeah. So I think they're going to get into a little bit of that backstory. 00;32;46;05 - 00;32;47;01 Speaker 3 So I'm curious. 00;32;47;01 - 00;33;02;08 Speaker 2 To see and I like that they're doing if it's I don't know when that's happening, I just know that's going to happen because they've talked about in previous well, I like the fact that they're going to go into her backstory after you've already know her as a character as opposed to introducing it first and like then it doesn't matter as much. 00;33;02;09 - 00;33;19;17 Speaker 3 Yeah, you already have like the this like set of feelings associated with that character. And now you kind of get to learn like the backstory a little bit. Side note, I like that they kind of did a little minor throwback or Easter egg about the comic books because in the game you have to collect the different little book comic books along the way. 00;33;19;25 - 00;33;35;16 Speaker 3 And she basically mentions to Sam like, Oh, I've got episode, I've got issues. Yes. And then and then and yeah, because that was like that was actually the collectible item that you went through and found in the game. So I did enjoy that. I thought that was cool. 00;33;36;29 - 00;33;38;24 Speaker 2 Yeah, Yeah, it's a nice little novel. 00;33;38;25 - 00;33;54;05 Speaker 3 You're doing great with all the little Easter eggs, man. They're keep they're doing the fan servicing the right way where it's not like egregious and we just kind of notice these little things and we're like, Oh, sweet. But, you know, to the average consumer, just like right there, I want to. 00;33;54;05 - 00;34;17;07 Speaker 2 Go watch Craig's all the rest of the stuff that he's done. He also has a podcast, too, called Screenwriting, I believe is what it's called, where they talk about a lot of stuff behind the scenes in the industry. And I just want to go I remember listening to it a few years ago when I was like still trying to relearn how to do screenwriting because I was like, I was like thinking, I want to like, write a script and figure out what I want to do. 00;34;17;07 - 00;34;22;11 Speaker 2 And someone suggested it. So but I want to go back and watch Chernobyl. I never actually saw the show. 00;34;22;11 - 00;34;24;09 Speaker 3 Oh, sure, it was great trouble. 00;34;24;28 - 00;34;26;12 Speaker 2 He was one of the creators of that show. 00;34;26;12 - 00;34;27;18 Speaker 3 I actually really enjoyed that. 00;34;28;15 - 00;34;45;12 Speaker 2 You know, I went on my iPad to watch it all on the plane this week. So. All right. Well, I think let's do it. We're going to keep it quick to 30 minutes and, you know, let us know what you think if you want to come join us on discord and talk all this film stuff, because our film activities are more than our game activities at this point. 00;34;45;12 - 00;34;53;21 Speaker 2 But you can join us on Discord, Discord Slash O.G. podcast where we talk about, you know, video games and we're looking. 00;34;53;21 - 00;34;55;20 Speaker 3 Forward to look at Italian sandwiches. 00;34;57;00 - 00;34;57;28 Speaker 2 And Italian. 00;34;58;06 - 00;34;58;27 Speaker 3 The mozzarella. 00;34;58;27 - 00;36;03;05 Speaker 2 Sandwiches. Yes. Okay. Well, thank you everyone, for coming out and listening to this episode. We're going to have more. I don't know when we're going to be able to record the next episode. Maybe we'll do it again two weeks when we do next episode, because I'm going to be probably forever. But yeah, great. So you also there's.