00:00:00:00 - 00:00:54:13 Unknown What's up, everybody? Welcome to the Overachievers Gaming podcast. I am your host. Avast joined as always by the one, the only the redheaded stepchild of all of us, Chef Ron Diesel, Chef Karen Diesel. See that? You see the difference or the similarities? There's orange and orange. Orange. Orange. Not at your right side is correct. Is that you're, like slightly off center. 00:00:54:13 - 00:01:19:15 Unknown So on the screen. There you go. Yeah. No other way. Yep. Yep. There you go. We also have Ashley Pastrami, who's the deli meat champion, who is now just drop in shit, apparently. Did you grab her? Get your grabber. My. It's my toes. It's your toes. Yeah, your ears off. Coming fresh out of the hospital bed where the non-American socialism health care system works for all of us. 00:01:19:17 - 00:02:03:16 Unknown How? I can tell you how that experience has been just so wonderful. Pleasant. Are you. Are you, like, 20 or 30 grand in the whole? I am. Luckily. All in all, about only four grand in the whole. Only because the doctor I had big, big shout out to my boy, Doctor Andrew Hack, the Chiefs bouncer at Mount Sinai in New York, who's out of network completely since I've hit my of network deductible, which because I only hit that because of Petey which is also always had a network I hit the out of pocket out of out of I had the deductible which I think was like two grand at that point with my insurance at 00:02:03:16 - 00:02:24:15 Unknown a network, they paid 80% up to 80%. Right. I know this is not of the here or there, but it is like a very good feels good moment for at least for me. My surgery was $100,000, which is a made up number completely like not a real number. Like you look at that, you look at the itemize and it's like, none of this makes sense. 00:02:24:18 - 00:02:57:07 Unknown There's $100,000 the insurance agreed to give him 80%. So it's $80,000. Maybe after all the bullshit, like $60,000. His office told me that he will accept that percentage and I will not owe him anything else, which would have been $10,000 more. So I'm very thankful to that doctor. He was truly amazing. This was a procedure that, if you don't know, I had a cervical spinal fusion, so I have a couple of herniated disc in my neck, which isn't a very fun thing to have. 00:02:57:07 - 00:03:18:22 Unknown It's pain always sounds like straight up, most fun time ever. I don't know. I mean, very much so. Yeah. I hear everybody's I hear So you take to our challenge actually everybody is going to get 38 either turn in your death a 38 challenge Exactly exactly. Yeah. Imagine you're in pain all the time. Yeah, that's it. Sounds like it sounds like my back, like Cirque. 00:03:18:23 - 00:03:40:02 Unknown I mean, granted, I know yours is like, way. What? Yours is a much more intense version of that. I think mine's like the the baby did. No, you know, here's a crazy number. Here's a crazy number. This is just statistic. Up to 65% of the human population probably has a herniated disc in their spine somewhere between. Now we're back to there, to the middle, back to their neck, and they don't even know it. 00:03:40:02 - 00:04:01:00 Unknown Right? You know? Yeah. Without knowing it, it's when the herniation pushes against the nerve that runs up. There's like a thousand nerves, a million nerves that run up and down your spinal cord. It's when the herniation pushing. It's so like my nerve canal was completely blocked by one of their nations, completely blocked. So no malware does happen. But so they had to remove that disk. 00:04:01:00 - 00:04:15:22 Unknown They put a they put in a piece of padding which they said could have been from a cadaver. So I could have something like like a metal sheet going on right now. You're a zombie. I could I could be a party zombie. Yeah. It's either that or some kind of organic matter, whatever it is. And then they purge zombie. 00:04:15:24 - 00:04:37:18 Unknown Oh, you're no, you're a cyborg. Actually, that's exactly. Yes. Exact. And then they put and then they put a metal plate. They fuzed the vertebrate together. It's crazy shit. But yeah, so that was a crazy procedure. The doctor was great. My procedure was very smooth. I am so good that I've not been in too much pain, which is actually, quite frankly, insane. 00:04:37:18 - 00:04:53:12 Unknown The fact I just had a major neck surgery and I'm not I'm not taking any narcotics which can show you how not bad it's been. Well, that's good. Yes. Well, also, like, even if it wasn't pain, I probably wouldn't just cause narcotics yourself. I can say you don't want to get stuff like that. They're just absolutely terrifying in every regard, regardless of movement. 00:04:53:12 - 00:05:15:24 Unknown I was, like, medically prescribed. This is scary. Right? Then you really would be a zombie, then? I would, exactly. Yeah. But yes, I didn't. I only all in all, all I owed, I will have paid about $4,000 into this healthcare. And only because this doctor was like, I've accepted this full 80%. You're good. But because the rest would have been 20%, which is 20 grand, I'm max at $10,000. 00:05:15:24 - 00:05:44:04 Unknown So that's what the 10,000 I would have all in all paid $14,000. Yeah. So he really I'm feeling good. Took a shower yesterday. I took a shower today. I can't tell you guys how truly wonderful it is to be clean. Oh, for sure. I cannot fathom not like the privilege of having clean water. Is something that I feel like we probably take for granted. 00:05:44:04 - 00:06:00:07 Unknown Because the fact that I had it, I couldn't use it. Just like. Like I'm trying to think of, like, going without time, without being able to shower like that on my own accord. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, yeah, it's hard. I think it was the last time I was in that situation was when I broke my leg, like when I was like 18. 00:06:00:07 - 00:06:23:21 Unknown And I, I legitimately, like, broke the small bone in my leg and I could not take a shower for, like, multiple days. And then we had to, like, wrap my entire leg in, like Saran wrap, and then I'd be like one leg out the door. And my dad's, like, trying to help me wash this. It's like it's this injury, debilitating injuries and trying to cleanse ourself are very harsh. 00:06:23:28 - 00:06:42:26 Unknown You're right. Like being able to just a simple thing, like being able to clean yourself is very difficult. And you actually do learn to appreciate it, as you said. Yes. And also, I see the biggest shout out to my wonderful partner, Mallory, who is just taking the mountain Nurse Woods over here, who without her, I'd be man, you know, and licking my butt, you know. 00:06:42:29 - 00:07:00:04 Unknown So watch this. This is going to pay into what you just said. But like, I just watched this movie this week on Hulu. I need to look up the name of it really quick. It was about the guy that created the slurry for spicy Cheetos. Right? And the. Hold on this guy. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Just just bear with me here. 00:07:00:04 - 00:07:19:14 Unknown So the the whole point of this movie also, this guy is actually touted as probably one of the most brilliant marketing geniuses of our time. Right in the middle of this story. I remember, like, I actually really appreciated this moment because there's like a scene where, like, he's trying to figure out how to do it and he can't figure it out. 00:07:19:19 - 00:07:35:17 Unknown And he has this whole thing with his dad. Great, This is a true story. And his wife is basically like, you know, look, forget about this. I'm all in with you. Let's figure this out. He's like he's like men. If you ever want to be successful in life, find yourself a duty. He's like, I would be nothing without that woman. 00:07:35:17 - 00:08:01:07 Unknown And then he just goes into like 5 minutes about how she basically is the whole reason that, you know, he would never have been able to do this without her support. And truly and I just like I'm bringing this up because it just plays into it. You're saying that like having a good partner when you're in tough times, like this is extremely valuable, but it's like, it's my point, you know, it's something that you have to be able to do and you would hope that they're they're going to be there for you as well. 00:08:01:08 - 00:08:24:01 Unknown Yes. Yeah. I mean, a good a good partner is literally everything. And man, thank you. Thank goodness for Mallory or else I'd be there would be harsh, maybe harsh right now I'd be having a grabber. I would not. Yeah, it would not be. It's called Flamin Hot. I'm telling you, was actually a really good movie. I actually really enjoyed a very, very wholesome movie for and. 00:08:24:08 - 00:08:42:19 Unknown And the guy apparently started $1,000,000,000 industry the whole flaming hot like Cheeto Dorito, like the the whole the whole product line. He started all of it. And this is a dude that was like a just a janitor at Frito-Lay. So it's pretty cool, man. It's pretty cool. You know, I liked the whole I really liked the whole story. 00:08:42:19 - 00:09:03:03 Unknown And it's like to hear a story, you know, or like, the underdog story. Hell, yeah. Well, I'm glad that we have this entire thing to talk about because absolutely nothing came out for video games this week. And, you know, it's really. Are you saying that, Charlie, nothing has been the most times I've been playing video games and and I can't remember how I'm playing three games full time right now. 00:09:03:06 - 00:09:27:00 Unknown Can I guess what you're playing? How could you not know them? Okay, so you're playing against them, but you're playing Tears of the Kingdom. Yes, we're playing Diablo four. Yes. And you're playing marbles Snap. No, I haven't. I snap in weeks. Oh, you stop playing snow snaps, not playing. Oh, snap. But, well, I was the third game. Daisy. 00:09:27:01 - 00:09:42:22 Unknown I've been playing Daisy, so. Okay. And I only even even playing is that as much as I am is because I, I'm on this server. That's really fun. Has a great community. I mean, they just, you know, I built up this giant base like by my, like, solo playing, you know, fighting and, and collecting and looting and shit. 00:09:42:25 - 00:10:00:00 Unknown And then yesterday or the day before, something wrong happened in, like, the files made it or full server wipe. And I was probably going to stop because I was like, oh, whatever. I played enough of Daisy. Like, I remember the game is they did a full server wipe and I was like, Oh, okay, cool. And starting back from fresh. 00:10:00:00 - 00:10:23:03 Unknown So I'm playing, yes, three games at once, actually. Like kind of funny timing, but having the surgery and everything because I had not done that, doing it and not going anywhere if you know, I mean, like, yeah, I am fully chilling. So you're finally getting to catch up on your your backlog? Yes, my my backlog. Okay. So let's so let's see. 00:10:23:03 - 00:10:37:17 Unknown And so since since I'm sure that Charlie and I have a lot to talk about with Diablo, how about you tell us more about I yeah, I think all of us have we all have stuff. Stuff, you know? I know. But like when we haven't been playing a series of kingdoms, I tell you, I haven't touched that at all. 00:10:37:17 - 00:10:53:09 Unknown I mean, we have a switch. My it's my wife's switch. Yeah. You want me to start off on tears? Yeah, Go for it. I am. Well, you know, I tried. Did you even get to finish the intro? No, You. I haven't watched as much as my surgery, and it kind of hurts. I mean, yeah, I could tell. I actually. 00:10:53:09 - 00:11:15:03 Unknown I'm surprised you're making me laugh so much asking. Yeah, Yeah. You can find us on Instagram. Podcasts are Twitter's Over Cheers Pure website's O.G. podcast app and where get this episode where we're talking about what we're playing. We're looking for a little bit of gaming news and there you go. Okay, go ahead. Also, hilariously enough, while we're doing this, I'm sitting in the virtual queue for near Comic-Con, so this is like a hilarious this is everything. 00:11:15:05 - 00:11:34:02 Unknown Everything about what's happening right now is funny. Oh, when is that? Is that something I should I should get in on October. Have you? You've bought tickets before. I don't remember. So then. Yeah. You can't get you can't get them today. This is for if you've bought them pretty much every year you get a special link. Wait so how do you can you, can you buy an extra ticket? 00:11:34:05 - 00:12:03:13 Unknown Can I know? So the way that they have beaten let me check my email the bots even though it's not the not Yeah yeah yeah You have to have you have to do a fan verification and so before the link goes live today, I've had to set up my email beforehand to buy it and only buy them today if you went, if you, if you've done a fan verification in previous years you get the link take tomorrow for general popular population public. 00:12:03:16 - 00:12:19:09 Unknown So if you want to get them they're still tickets tomorrow but today is for if you've bought them previous years and you fan verified does that make sense? Yep. But if you really want come to Comic-Con, do you do it? I know. I really, I really do want to go. So I mean, I'd love to go. Oh no, that should be a good way for us to meet up, right? 00:12:19:12 - 00:12:33:07 Unknown I we could do a like we could do it in person. Have you really thought about it? I feel like you have to try the using, like do a set up. That'd be awesome. Yeah. Really cool. Yeah. Well, they let me know when they remind us when they go live of regular general on sale is Wednesday, June 21st. 00:12:33:10 - 00:12:54:02 Unknown Right so ten days to put that in the Yeah well I'm actually putting this in my work calendar now you should truly that'd be cool. Shit. What time. What time is it. But to know what not I know what time it is now I'm saying like, what time do they go live at 12 p.m. noon. 5 p.m. on the 21st. 00:12:54:02 - 00:13:14:07 Unknown Okay. Yeah. I would obviously set your, you know, reminder a little bit beforehand because there's a few comic so late at like 1159. Start pressing that refresh button. I put it at 45. Yeah. Uh, that would be really cool. That'll be really fun. Yeah. We going to try things. We can do it in prison pod that would be. 00:13:14:07 - 00:13:29:19 Unknown And just hang out and be really fun. Bring the pizza pod, having dinner we can you compare contrast we can get some Rico's and bring some pizza things we can compare I mean Connecticut pizza and you can get bring your own pizza You know I really do want to try I haven't tried naming it. I really want to at New Haven. 00:13:29:19 - 00:13:47:16 Unknown It's not that great. Wait, really? Don't they say like New Haven style is like. Yeah, they say that. Well, you know. Well, your boy Portnoy says that New Haven's the best. It's not that good. Oh, I would love to try it. Wait, wait, wait. I need to know, though, what other fucking styles of pizza in Connecticut exist, except for the one that everyone knows about. 00:13:47:21 - 00:14:05:12 Unknown There's the ones that people don't know, which is just like normal pizza, then, is it? No, It's like super thin personal style, like 12 inch like edge to edge cheese. Interesting. That's the shit that I always talk about and I love. Wait, like when you say thin, are you talking about like, thin, like the way but not like New York Thin. 00:14:05:12 - 00:14:30:00 Unknown Are you talking like, thinner? Yeah, like thinner. See, Ashley? Funny about that. Traditional Chicago pizza is called tavern style pizza. It's not the deep dish like casserole that people think about, and it's like paper thin crust. Same thing. Yeah. Oh, I've always been the try a tavern style too, which I never had. Tavern style. Yeah. So pizza was the fact I think we all compare contrast we'll get pizzas just the best and all doesn't matter where you are, what you got going on your life. 00:14:30:01 - 00:14:54:15 Unknown Pizza's the fucking best. But yes, that would be really fine. Okay, so the kingdom I don't think the devs realized what the fuck they were doing when they designed tiers of the kingdom. And I say this in the best way possible. Tiers of the kingdom is quite frankly one of the most extensive like building style games I've ever come across. 00:14:54:18 - 00:15:11:06 Unknown So, you know, I kind of went over a very brief intro of the game, I think the last pod, right? And I had to go in to my story. But the whole thing is Lingle lost his arm and he got the arm of a god like that's like his new arm is that is one of the old gods that ruled over Hyrule Like in ancient times past. 00:15:11:08 - 00:15:32:20 Unknown They're called the Zuni right? Super cool, like back story. Like, please play it, learn about the zone. I it's like such a different take on what we know of Zelda and kind of like the whole like deal with like magic and the realm check so he has this arm of a god essentially right? Ganon does arm off and this God saved him by giving him his arm. 00:15:32:21 - 00:15:55:14 Unknown Cool shit like fucking tight story. Like really cool. So with this arm, you could, you could do all this crazy shit and it's called the ultra hand. And with it, the two biggest things that's I mean, sure, there's so many things you do it. The two main things I'll say not biggest do me in these. You two are refuse items together or you can create new. 00:15:55:16 - 00:16:18:26 Unknown So this is going to sound weird because it's so you can attach things together that are not permanent or you could. Fuze Two things together that become a permanent like weapon for instance. So like if I have so everything now drops things that you can then Fuze So all the like the shitty little goblins they all have like dumb little horns now they're very weak, but you could put those horns onto a stick and now suddenly you have a pretty nice sword, right? 00:16:18:28 - 00:16:34:24 Unknown It's kind of their answer. They didn't make things less breakable. But now you can just make a million good weapons, right? And they're not the best weapons, but they're good, right? Really cool. Like you can put a bomb keg onto your shield in the second and he hits it, explodes out in front of them and blows them away. 00:16:34:24 - 00:16:56:28 Unknown It's hilarious. Like the fuzing part of the game is very fun. You can do make some really cool weapons and shields and all that shit. The other part of the ultra is the attach, so if I want to make a hot air balloon, I can't. There's like a still little vendor system in the game. You like exchange things for like different attachable items. 00:16:57:00 - 00:17:19:20 Unknown I can get a balloon, I can get a little dragon head. That's true. Tuff Flame. I can get a cart back, attaches it together and make a little hot air balloon like very, very basic there. Right. Nothing. Nothing crazy. Very, very silly. But then you have and I'm sure that that's what the dev side like. Oh, we'll make some gliders. 00:17:19:20 - 00:17:35:24 Unknown You can put some rockets on that you could put like little fans on it, you could drive around this car, you know, blah blah, blah. But to see the shit people have been making is truly it's almost to the point where I'm like, they have to patch this, they have to take this out. There's no way they allow this. 00:17:35:26 - 00:18:04:07 Unknown So one of the devices you can have is a homing beacon, right? And it literally will just trade it. Whatever you attach it to, it will make that go towards the closest monster. Right. You have lasers, you have rocket launchers, you have all these crazy things. So people are making these like floating war machines that will just target monsters and just evap evaporate them, evaporate them. 00:18:04:14 - 00:18:23:15 Unknown They'll put like 30 of these lasers on it. They'll put like 20 fans above it and they'll make it fly in. The homing beacon will just go towards like, like there's an army outpost and shit or there's like the giant, like, what is this a good sound? Like Legend of Zelda? I'm sorry. It's, like, hilarious. Yeah. No, no, I mean, because clearly, clearly, they didn't expect that. 00:18:23:17 - 00:18:49:02 Unknown They expected very simple building of like, Oh, I have to get from this island. That island. Okay, I'll make a little glider that can fly. Blah, blah, blah. Easy, right? But then the Internet doesn't do that, obviously. Obviously, you find these videos of people making these like crazy things that clearly I bet you it's going to probably happen is I bet you they'll patch it so you can only attach so many things to one thing at once. 00:18:49:09 - 00:19:06:27 Unknown Right. Instead of being able to put on like, you know, ten of these laser things with a guidance thing and like 15 of the fans that help you propel it forward, you probably can't do that because otherwise it's like touch. I haven't done it because that's like, that's too much for me. I am playing it in the in the veins. 00:19:06:27 - 00:19:24:08 Unknown I think a simpler man, you know? I mean, sure, sure, sure. But also the people doing this are people that are probably really doing it for like the tiktoks and stuff. Yeah. So this morning I was this why, why would they patch it? That sounds awesome. It's because in my opinion it's a bit, but it's a bit much, right? 00:19:24:10 - 00:19:48:21 Unknown I saw someone they made a literal Gundam. I mean, that's what I was just looking for the video. It literally my friend sent me one this morning and it's like, this is why the Japanese are better at video games than us. And it's really a Gundam. Yeah, like is literally a full blown yes. Isn't that a complete robot like that does with with like a laser beam that comes out of its midsection to like weapons over here. 00:19:48:21 - 00:20:08:21 Unknown And it's insane. It's incredible. I mean, like it was literally like, yeah, look it up. Like, look up the video I was trying to send it to you, but my friend. No. Find it. Yeah. Oh, God, it's so good. My friends and I have, like, so many League of Legends. I have like you've had so many good league memes lately. 00:20:08:21 - 00:20:29:08 Unknown It's just. It's become a thing in my friends circle. But yeah, so the game I've been. I'm glad you're enjoying it. I'm glad that it's living up to the hype. I'm glad that it wasn't a Yeah because you know, a lot of I think a lot of people were worried that they were going to try to, you know, Breath of the Wild itself is touted as like almost a perfect game. 00:20:29:08 - 00:20:44:27 Unknown Like a lot of people will tell you this about that and that's and I agree I think breath of wild I don't think breath was a part and I don't know if any game exists that is perfect shirt in the in the eyes of its fanbase it is right now there is always something to improve, right? Of course of course. 00:20:44:28 - 00:21:03:05 Unknown Amazing as Breath of Wild is as much as I love that game, I played so much of the game I like did I did almost everything 100% except for finding all 999, correct? Yeah. That wasn't necessary. Am I seems is the shit I told you. Right? It's badass, right? This is insane. Like, I'm like, hold you. Yeah, it's. 00:21:03:05 - 00:21:25:06 Unknown It's actually in. Cause what people are doing, right? You look very like the one that's, like lasers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's literally shooting lasers and, like, blowing shit up. I wasn't joking. Do look up the one that says there's one that's like America. Yeah, Yeah, It's like. It's like they have, like, what Looks like a stealth bomber going around and literally bombings. 00:21:25:11 - 00:21:50:17 Unknown The little encampments that, you know, it's literally no joke. So you're going to jump in it. Oh, my God. This is. Yeah, I'm amazing. It's so funny. But so I feel like the team has to be having, like an absolute heyday with like this where we're talking about this internally. Right. Here's the thing, though. I don't know, because I feel like So I could I hope I'm not generalizing. 00:21:50:17 - 00:22:07:12 Unknown There's definitely somebody that's going to be upset about it on these game developers. They want their games to be played the way that they envisioned. Right? And I feel like this is probably taking away from the original idea they had of what it's all like. This was honestly, this was a pretty big step up and to keep it in this is like the best thing in the world. 00:22:07:12 - 00:22:26:03 Unknown This is like this hilarious viral marketing for your own game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I don't even I don't even like Zelda games and I want to play this now. It's very funny. I'll say this right now. It's not easy to build those things that are, you know, it takes hours to do that because you have to get all those individual pieces and getting those is the whole thing. 00:22:26:03 - 00:22:43:15 Unknown And it's okay. I feel like you legitimately have to have some kind of engineering mindset in order to pull off something like that. Right? Like, well, because there are real physics involved, right? That's why I'm saying like they and so but like the game, I'm not doing any of that. I'm just playing it straight story wise. I'm taking my time with it. 00:22:43:17 - 00:23:00:18 Unknown I'm able to take my time with it because I have other games I'm playing. I just really I just love Zelda games. I think they've always they've consistently, always been such a good story and I just love taking that in. This story is Bonk. Oh, what I was saying before, Sorry, Breath of Wild is a great game. One of the best. 00:23:00:18 - 00:23:19:00 Unknown All the games ever. I don't think it's the best, which a lot of people put it up there. I still think like I still really enjoy Majora's mask and try to link to the past is my favorite one and nobody's ever just like, yeah, awesome. D'alger. For me, I was like, wonderful child, you know? But like as amazing and near perfect, Breathable was This is a game. 00:23:19:02 - 00:23:34:15 Unknown Truly. It feels like the beta to what to this is Yeah it feels like a breath of air was the fucking beta. We played the beta. I feel like I would say I would. I feel like I could agree that it is a perfect game, but I don't like the weapon system. Like I don't like the idea that the weapons break. 00:23:34:15 - 00:23:49:19 Unknown And I know that there are people that love that aspect of the game. Me personally just wasn't my that's the that was the biggest deterrence. I think honestly that probably is I would say that's probably the biggest beef people have with the games the way that was the thing that I had with it. Yeah, yeah. I don't like the way that aspect. 00:23:49:21 - 00:24:03:10 Unknown I said that I liked it. I didn't give a shit enough about it, you know? I mean, it was just I'll get other weapons. Well, see, there's like my friend games that are like, I like going out and farming all the different weapons and then breaking them because he likes to break shit. I it's just there's, there's different strokes for different folks, you know? 00:24:03:18 - 00:24:23:23 Unknown And now though there's kind of the answer to that because if I'm killing a bunch of enemies, my, my sword breaks. If I have a stick near me and I just killed the big boss who had this crazy giant horn, or you have, like, a giant, like, piece that he drops, I can fuze that to my sword. And now my sword just became queen. 00:24:23:23 - 00:24:44:01 Unknown Doubly better. You know, I like my stick. I found the ground just became, like, ultra better. You know what I mean? You're saying ultra, ultra interesting. It's a very it's a very good game. It's so good that Malory is ahead of me. No, she is just fucking blowing through like she's playing. Well, she also doesn't have D4 to play, probably. 00:24:44:01 - 00:25:17:27 Unknown Right? Right. But I sleep on the couch. I just sleep upright, which is very annoying. I can't tell you how annoying that it. Yeah, very annoying. But I woke up this morning to hearing in actually playing dead. Yeah. Playing in bed. Yeah. It's it's a it's a truly phenomenal game. I, I really can't stress enough that if there's one thing that I know I think we'll always do right it's Zelda and I think they I think it's because they understand they understand what is involved in that. 00:25:17:27 - 00:25:39:11 Unknown You know we are trying to like reinvent the wheel, so to say no. But they kind of are I would say this game, they reinvented the wheel. I would say with tears they kingdom. They. You think it was unintentional, though? No. And here's here's why. Originally, here's the kingdom. The foundation of it was a DLC to use the king. 00:25:39:12 - 00:25:56:01 Unknown Okay. Right. Right. And they realized they had so much good stuff to work with, Right? Like, screw it. Let's go ahead and let's make the second game. Do you think do you think that they all they had was the story and the glove and then they were like, hey, let's just turn this into a whole game. I think. 00:25:56:02 - 00:26:11:17 Unknown I think because the glove is what allows you to do the crafting and shit, right? Yes, yes, yes. I think that's probably exactly it. I feel like they were they were just like, this is cool enough by itself. Yes. Just and it probably wasn't as extensive as it is. I bet you they're probably oh, here's what we can do for you. 00:26:11:17 - 00:26:27:22 Unknown You know, they added on to it. Yeah. And then they're like, Yeah, let's just make this more because the one of the really cool abilities you can get is I forgot the name of it, but you literally swim up through rocks or like if there's a ceiling above you and you have to get above it, you can, you can swim up through it. 00:26:27:22 - 00:26:46:11 Unknown It's it's really you can swim upstream. You swim upstream, but you go through it rocks and like hard surfaces that existed as a dev tool and breath of the wild So the devs can get around the map faster and they're like, wait, this is oh, and they left it in. Let's make this part of the actual thread that's going to break is Yeah, it's true. 00:26:46:11 - 00:27:03:15 Unknown I would say play it. If you're, if you don't really like feel like you need to play it, that's totally fine. Take your time with it. Play it when you're bored. Do you want like I'm going to, to the office. I'm looking like played on the train and shit. You know what I mean? Like, and like, I wasn't going to play on the train, but last. 00:27:03:15 - 00:27:18:11 Unknown The last time when I was before my surgery, I was sitting on the train, someone sat next to me and it just played me. I was like, okay, I could do this like a dance. I do it, you know? They just do you. Dom You don't have to worry. You don't have the approval of anyone. But yes, it is great game. 00:27:18:13 - 00:27:45:21 Unknown Can't stress enough that it is just beautiful and well-made and yes, please, please play it because the story alone so far is good enough to play even outside all the cool shit you can do. Like building a fucking Gundam. Yeah, well, speaking of good storylines, must segway this into the next game. I actually was blown away at how good the storyline for D4 was that it finished. 00:27:45:27 - 00:28:09:10 Unknown I'm not going to say I'm not saying anything. I'm just I'm. I'm an Act three right now. All I'm saying I'm just about to finish two. Yeah. All I'm saying is that it's a really good story. It's very that's all I'm saying. And so there's, there's some cutscenes towards the end that are nominal. Dude, it's everyone playing. You want to talk about that or do you want to get into like mechanics, One that we can get into it before we get into this? 00:28:09:10 - 00:28:35:13 Unknown Hold on. Let me just say that there are some cinematic in this game that you haven't seen yet. There are fucking incredible like I think we're talking Yeah. Cinematic thing. They did good Blizzard this dude it's it gets it was it was so unexpected like I didn't expect it to be that quality that high of quality. I felt like I was watching Lord of the Rings like the battle for Middle-Earth, like it was fucking awesome and and it just gets better. 00:28:35:20 - 00:28:56:28 Unknown And I did not expect that from Diablo. That's all. That's all I want. I want to get out. I'm also very impressed by like the not just the Cinemax, but a cut scenes like the like the cut scenes that you have. Yeah. Like the ones that you're, like, starting to like that you see your character in. It's almost like like you go up and you, like, initiate the conversation and then it kind of like the camera almost like pans over a little bit. 00:28:57:02 - 00:29:13:02 Unknown Yeah, the best. The best. I mean, they start you off on that in the beginning or like when you talk to Laura in like a very opening and you're like having a cup of tea or whatever, but then it gets like more involved, like at the end act two, like when you're going and going through that ruins, I won't go, I won't spoil it for anyone else. 00:29:13:02 - 00:29:42:08 Unknown And but yeah, yeah, like towards the end of Act two, like I was like, wow, this is actually pretty, pretty cool because like, you get to see yourself in your own get up and, and like attire I guess. But yeah, it's, it's great. So yeah, what do you guys plan? Well, actually, I want one more thing. I think it's so funny that this story so I feel like we were all we all wanted this game to be good, but I feel like we were all collectively holding our breath a little bit. 00:29:42:08 - 00:30:00:18 Unknown Like. Yeah. Oh, I would definitely was. Yes. Yeah. After a moral. Yeah, I don't. Because as great as Diablo three was at the end of it, beginning Diablo three was very bad story was absolute garbage. Almost everything about vanilla. The other three wasn't that good. Right. I feel like we all came in Diablo four, like fucking let's go. 00:30:00:18 - 00:30:20:28 Unknown Like at least I don't want to speak for all of us, but I have been very much enjoying my time in the game and so I'm very thankful that bullies are deteriorating because we it was anyone's it was honestly anyone's fucking game. It really it was. This could have this could either been as good as it is now or it could have been the most toxic you ever seen. 00:30:20:28 - 00:30:35:07 Unknown So yeah, I don't think I really I genuinely do not think I have. Actually, I have one complaint and that's that I wish I had a catharsis that's really like my only, you know. Actually, no, let me let me let me do without complaint because they there will be more classes knowing that we didn't get that at the start. 00:30:35:07 - 00:30:56:02 Unknown Yeah. That, that it's not even really like a complaints we should like I just should have had all the classes from D3 and then adding and the druid and the rogue. Yeah. Well really so the rogue is like a cross between the Amazon and the assassin, like straight up because they're a trap bow, dagger build kind of thing. 00:30:56:02 - 00:31:13:21 Unknown I mean, those are the rogue is the demon hunter from D3. Yeah. I mean, it's Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean it, it, it feels. I mean I'm not gonna lie. It feels more like if, if, if that assassin and, and an Amazon had a baby that's what, that's what class right into these classes from Amazon I'm talking about dude. 00:31:13:22 - 00:31:31:24 Unknown Sorry. Because like I'm playing like I'm basically playing a boas on the dropped poison traps, which is exactly what an assassin would do. So that's why I say it's kind of like a cross between the two. And if I had if I wanted to, I could use daggers and do like a more stealthy build. But I play with two. 00:31:31:24 - 00:31:49:13 Unknown I play with like three male characters. Like my buddies are all playing melee, so it just doesn't exist. Right now I am doing Rogue. Yeah. Well, are you? I'm. I just hit 50 last night. Have you been enjoying it? Ah, yes, it's difficult. Probably in a Swisher. Okay, so I'm going to I'm going to play Rogue on on soft core for season one. 00:31:49:13 - 00:32:11:07 Unknown I will say this much. If you're going to play a rogue by yourself, be ready for it to be extremely challenging. When I played I it hasn't been at all problematic. I've been doing the what with the barrage and it's been great. But yeah, I mean, I myself, no, I mean in the game, not myself. Well, how far along are you Have you gotten to any like the challenging part yet. 00:32:11:07 - 00:32:27:18 Unknown I mean are you like have you passed level 30 then. Yeah, I'm 30, so I have a hard core. Rogue is 37. Yeah, I think you're just I think you're hard hardcore character. I love that record. At 38, I feel so bad it happened to because like I told, like you were coming to help us and we didn't you didn't really need to do what we were doing. 00:32:27:18 - 00:32:53:12 Unknown And Stan got on and I was like, Oh, why don't you go hang out, stand like you're probably be more worth your time. And Charlie was like, Yeah, sure, let me go do that. And then he dies. And I was just like, I could have, like, gonna push him to do that. He kind of just like, hung out with us and I don't feel like died waiting around because I was like, I so I broke my rule for hardcore with, with Stan, which was like, I was like, I like the idea that Stan And so there's a trophy for getting a hardcore character to level 50, excuse me. 00:32:53:19 - 00:33:10:06 Unknown And so the, the rule I made myself is like, All right, we're going to we're going to group up the entire time. We're not going to play solo. We're not going to play solo because, like, you know, as you get further into the game, like, it gets harder and like, enemies, you know, you can have mechanics like, do like crazy shit. 00:33:10:06 - 00:33:26:10 Unknown Like up until probably Act three, I think you can solo, it's fine, but gets harder and harder as you go along. So like, okay, we're going to stay together. He's playing a necro, so just make sense. We can all like, you know, if, if in the event that like we get attacked by the butcher, like, you know, we can play like a random. 00:33:26:15 - 00:33:43:29 Unknown Yes. Oh, yeah. So, Josh, you mentioned getting attacked by the butcher that day. And I was like, wait, I haven't seen him and I've seen him I've seen him three times by myself. And I fucking swear, dude, he only shows up when I'm by myself. Like, it actually pisses me off because it takes me a long time to kill him because I can't just, like, stand there and take and spank him. 00:33:43:29 - 00:34:06:18 Unknown I literally have to find a pillar and customer on the pillar in circles like he's and then he'll, he'll do like a roar that like an Aoki roar that will slow you and like, Dude, I swear to God, I have to, like, actually really try to not die whenever I come across him because I just I being in hardcore yesterday and it was just that the sweat is thing it it's super not easy man. 00:34:06:18 - 00:34:33:05 Unknown Oh God. Oh God No butthole puckering up a little bit because like, I was playing with one of our other our new members. On the Discord, which is Discord dot Music. I showed you podcast where he was. He was playing a barbarian, I was playing My Rogue. He had literally what, the Barbarian guy? Matt He had one. It left like he had a sliver of help on his hard core character and he did like more because we both ran out of potions or like, Yeah, you're running a potions match, but here's the trick. 00:34:33:05 - 00:34:55:10 Unknown Here's the trick. So you can actually quite the butcher infinitely like do. Homeboy will not catch you if you have. Well, see, here's the trick. You got to have boots with two charges. And I swear to God you can Kate the butcher for fucking days. And your health, your health will regenerate itself. So if you find yourself in a scenario where you're at a potions, run the fuck around and don't get yourself killed. 00:34:55:10 - 00:35:10:15 Unknown Like, it's as easy as that. He will stop to do. He has. He has like I think he has four abilities and he will stop at certain points. I swear if you find I do the easiest way. Take care of the butcher. Find a fucking room with a pillar in the middle of it and just run him around the bitch in circles. 00:35:10:15 - 00:35:30:12 Unknown It's the easiest way to do it. I've done it three times now and I have not. I've not died yet. I actually did it in World Tier two yesterday by myself, which took me literally 15 minutes to get done because I just could not. I just would drop a poison trap, do a lap, drop a the trap, do a lap like I was shooting arrows at him because I'm like, if I stop to shoot an arrow at him, he's going to charge at me. 00:35:30:17 - 00:35:44:09 Unknown He's going to stun me and he's going to fuck me up like, it's as easy as that. So. Right. But he drops legendaries like every time, so it's definitely important to kill him in the beta. I came across him once, thought that was just a part of the story. I didn't realize I was having a bad day around. 00:35:44:12 - 00:36:07:11 Unknown It's a random event in dungeons or cellars, by the way. Yeah, you'll be running around and you'll just see the, like, the little style icon or anybody. I haven't really been doing dungeons. I'm at level 30, I'm just about 30.2. I'm like, I'm doing a druid, okay? I'm just doing the basic icy veins level. The Druid family Tornado build. 00:36:07:14 - 00:36:28:09 Unknown No, it's it's an earthquake. An earthquake. It's pretty easy. Nice. And then once they get to end game, I was going to do just the straight up earthquake chatter. I love that. I can do the landslide build with the landslide. Yeah, Yeah, that. That build is fucking tight, dude. I saw some people doing it like End game and it looks so fun. 00:36:28:11 - 00:36:45:15 Unknown I was doing stands Werewolf Alphabet. It's really fun, but it's not really my playstyle. The poison werewolf filled. Very cool, but I'm just not a very much. That's what that's my boy. Rondo's playing and he. He absolutely loves it. He just did something like, does a bunch of, like, extra or. Oh, my God, he's, he's funny because it, it's. 00:36:45:15 - 00:37:02:15 Unknown You're doing a poison dart but also you crit damage which I think you don't go side by side but somehow they work together so the higher crit is the faster the it's like really weird and actually like quite I think so here's the other dirty part of our combination I'd cut you off is that I am a poison. 00:37:02:15 - 00:37:25:22 Unknown I'm a poison trap broke. So. So you just want stability. And I'm constantly throwing vulnerability, dropping poison traps. My that's my one ability, which is the empowerment, is that you can either imbue your bow or daggers with poison shadow or frost. And I just think poison, that's the other cool thing, is that like anybody that's affected by my poison does 50% less damage. 00:37:25:22 - 00:37:45:23 Unknown They have a very reduced attack speed. That's going to be a very strong four and game done 100%, whatever. So you're like more of a fucking support build than anything. Yes, that's I went that way. Well, actually. So the funny thing is, is I went rapid fire for my main ability. I didn't go with like an ac bo bobble or excuse me, I didn't go with an airy bow attack. 00:37:45:23 - 00:38:10:06 Unknown I went with Call of Arrows for my ultimate. And what you do is you hit the imbue min ability and the call of arrows will actually rain down with the poison effect. So it like spreads the poison across the entire room. So everybody has lower attack speed, they have vulnerability and they already have poison on them. So Toronto goes around slamming people with pulverize and he gets extra, could damage based off people that are already poison. 00:38:10:06 - 00:38:30:20 Unknown And he also has another ability that will basically pop the poisons. So people that are running over the poison trying to poison the poison creeper. Yeah. So so they'll be popping the poisons on them and then instantaneously be have the poison reapplied to them because they're standing on the trap. Yes, I know. It's actually usually they'll patch the poison creeper druid or the poison creeper ability of the druid. 00:38:30:25 - 00:38:55:19 Unknown It's like two. Good. That, that. And the only reason I say that is because every single every almost all the druid builds except for a separate landslide I think. Yes. Pulverize pulverize and it's insanely good. Yeah. If you stack overpower you do big, big numbers and you're somebody that's a tank dude. He's straight up. Just sat there on world tier three and takes the butcher like a champion. 00:38:55:19 - 00:39:12:24 Unknown The defensive abilities of Druid is pretty, pretty bonkers during the druid. It's funny because I feel like in the bay that the there was like and I always see your druids, you know like always here Druid, which is like, fine. I was like, Oh, maybe I'll change. Because they were. I don't remember, like, who the fuck? Everyone's going play your everything, right? 00:39:12:27 - 00:39:28:14 Unknown The only thing I haven't really been doing and again, I'm playing slow because I'm playing three games right now and I'm not really trying to rush anything. Yeah, I haven't really been doing the dungeons. Don't worry about it. It's neat you right? So I think there's there's two ways you can play this game. I think there's multiple ways you can play this. 00:39:28:15 - 00:39:47:22 Unknown I figure the end game when I need the boons to matter more is when you get sad and you get run out too. In my opinions. Yeah, it's boons. In my opinion. I would beat the storyline first. Now the reasoning I would say is the reason I say is that unlocks the Tree of Whispers and it also unlocks What else is it on Lock and unlock? 00:39:47:22 - 00:40:08:28 Unknown Something else I can't remember. It is basically like you really kind of want to just I mean, in my opinion room storyline, I don't really fucking watch the storyline on World Tier one. Have some fun. I enjoy it. You can do it on too if you want. You know, there's just not really a big benefit to doing it on to like the there's a big jump from 2 to 3, like 2 to 3 like three actually drops better gear. 00:40:08:29 - 00:40:30:22 Unknown I had like a huge soft cap thing that happens at level 50 though, and you kind of have to go to three. No. Is that true? Yes, that is true. Yeah. You do have to do so once you. So maybe you go back to one up until I get to 50. I would So everybody everybody's recommended even like the dudes that are putting out guys and things like that, they were saying like try they're, they're saying do the storyline on world tier one when you do it. 00:40:30:22 - 00:40:50:08 Unknown And then that's what we did. So we did that. And then yesterday when you want to go to World Tier three, you have to complete what is called a capstone dungeon. And we completed that. So now we can go to World Tier three. So now we have like on the, you know, on the map where you're trying to collect all the renown points and all that kind of stuff, and you can get extra skill points up to like the fifth point. 00:40:50:10 - 00:41:06:16 Unknown Well, now we're at the point where we can start collecting those things. And so now when we do dungeons, you know, we're getting points for the Tree of Whispers, and then you can go over to Tree of Whispers and get like a bunch of XP. You get a you can pick an A bundle that has like a shitload of items in it and a trade skill materials. 00:41:06:23 - 00:41:29:26 Unknown So, I mean, it's really like that's where the progression begins is once you hit, once you beat the storyline. So in my opinion, Russia storyline, switch it over and then go back and do the dungeons, things like that. Because some of the sometimes the dungeons have the can give you the points for the tree whispers and you want to do the thing is, is also you want to when you when you maxed out that's what unlocks the nightmare dungeons. 00:41:30:02 - 00:42:01:01 Unknown And the nightmare dungeons are the bomb dude like we did when we did one last night. And I got like some unique. Is that the one that's a step above legendary? Correct unique. And then there's I got some like a dude I got some unique dagger that was fucking incredible do a sacred, sacred, unique dagger because the in the nightmare thing sacred items drop and they're even more powerful than the regular items And yeah, that's that's what you want to do You want to be pushing those nightmare dungeons. 00:42:01:01 - 00:42:17:09 Unknown And not only that, you have to get a key to start the nightmare dungeon. You don't. You can't just like, start them up like you run regular. Don't. We were in a nightmare dungeon and the nightmare key dropped. I got one. Nobody else got one in there. So, like, we as a pack of four, could have gone and done another nightmare dungeon together. 00:42:17:12 - 00:42:39:10 Unknown And again, this is just why I'm telling you that you should push. I want you. I'm sorry. You should push the story. I actually. I think I'm going to stream it today and I'll switch off. Switch world your one? Yeah, just straight up to just just barrel through the storyline. Don't worry about anything else. And then because if you think about it, you, what you really want to do is, is like you want to do all those, those dungeons and side quests for the renowned points, right? 00:42:39:10 - 00:42:56:28 Unknown That's what I feel and that's why they want to waste any of it. Well, it's not wasted. Okay. So even so, if you collect the renown points and then you unlock the world Tier three later on, your renown points are still there. It's just that you be able day you're able to claim the awards or rewards until you actually hit world Tier three. 00:42:57:05 - 00:43:13:12 Unknown So like last night I did it and I had the world here for like immediately for the main area, for your peaks, right? And then now, now, like Michael and ah, my boy Toronto and I, we want to go around and find like all of the little the statues in the game. That's going to be our next goal for when the boys aren't on. 00:43:13:12 - 00:43:31:00 Unknown But I basically would strongly recommend people if you get a key for a nightmare dungeon, I mean, you can go run it by yourself, but it's, it's really it's really best to get it with a group of four people, I think, because like, if you go in there with a group before, the chances are somebody is going to get another key and you just kind of keep going on it. 00:43:31:03 - 00:43:49:07 Unknown And the nightmare dungeon where it's do the walk in, go dude, like the Sacred Gear had like twice the amount of power that a normal, normal one had. Like, I think Michael got an item out of there. Toronto got an item out of there that had like plus 82 all stats or something like that. Like, that's huge, dude. 00:43:49:07 - 00:44:05:22 Unknown It's tight. Yeah, like it's crazy. The gear that comes on, the nine diameters are super strong. Oh, I'm excited. QUEST two stance ten says So the reason the the reason that you want to wait is because when you're on World Tier three, you're going to get more XP for them, right? So it's going to be all the blue isolation points. 00:44:05:22 - 00:44:21:20 Unknown Wait on. I would wait on all of yeah, I'm starting to way with them. I've been doing them two. Don't even don't even worry about there are so many fucking side quests in the game I'm on. It's not going to matter. You're not. You have to act one at 36. So I realize if I were Charlie, I would be pushing through a little bit quicker. 00:44:21:20 - 00:44:43:13 Unknown But like, you have not done anything wrong. Like, do the math is so fucking big. Like, it's. It's so big, dude. Yeah, I'm about so big three. I think the the conquest is a conquest is the I haven't seen this yet except for my druid class thing where you have to, like, take over the towns strong. His strongholds. 00:44:43:17 - 00:45:01:15 Unknown Has that been a thing for anyone? Yeah. Is that like a cool thing yet? Yeah. I fucking love them, dude. I think they're. I think they're also. Are they random events? What is it? The strongholds themselves are like. You have to unlock them to unlock certain towns and there's three of them per map I want to say. And they're quite, quite good and quite fun. 00:45:01:15 - 00:45:17:26 Unknown And then once I think once you unlock the stronghold is when you unlock the Legion events for that area. I could be wrong on that aspect. So Legion, I was like the big like the big group thing that happens that everyone has to work together. It's easy. It's kind of like kind of like the open world stuff from my Guild Wars too, which I loved about Good Worst too. 00:45:18:01 - 00:45:33:12 Unknown I was mistaken about what I thought the strongholds were. I thought the strongholds were. If you have a town on the map, it can suddenly be overrun by demons. You have to take it back. That's what I thought it was. That's not the case. So I'm pretty sure it's not. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Maybe I just. 00:45:33:14 - 00:45:57:15 Unknown I mean, I've been baked out of my mind and trying to pick up a lot of stuff in this game. So, you know, I might consider looking at the item they all the this actually would be my one gripe with the game is that I when I pick up a wall of legend of like yellow items you know what I mean like from running dungeons or doing whatever it is we do, I just sit there for like a good 10 minutes and just be like, Is this an upgrade or not? 00:45:57:15 - 00:46:16:03 Unknown Because you can pull the aspect off any item and put it on those. Those are rare items. So I mean, in theory, like they could be really good, right? So you realize I should be. I just been selling everything to get gold. I probably shouldn't be because, you know, that's not true. That's not true. I actually I switch between selling and salvaging. 00:46:16:03 - 00:46:34:25 Unknown I swear I would sell. I would sell for the first. I would get a good nest egg because you're going to need that gold later on. That's right. That's why I figured, Yeah, you knew my coworkers. You're going to need the gold. Trust me. Like I've got 2 million gold. And that's when I stopped selling everything and switched over to salvaging everything. 00:46:34:27 - 00:46:54:00 Unknown Yeah, my one of my other not dynamic. That's okay. That's. That's fair. One of my coworkers is fucking flying, and they're like, Get as much. You're going to need the gold. Yeah, now you have. Okay, I got a buddy that's. I got a buddy that's. Are you are the the dude that's like the professional speed runner. He's already max level with two characters and, you know, it's crazy. 00:46:54:00 - 00:47:12:09 Unknown It's insane. I can't figure out how that's possible, but, you know, I mean, that's what he does for a living. So, I mean, I. Yeah, it's not what I'm doing. I think we all agree the game fucking rules. Yeah. So what is your what are your gripes with it then? I don't have a grave yet. Only because I don't feel like I'm far enough to have it. 00:47:12:09 - 00:47:37:12 Unknown Right? Yeah. Except for I think I do agree with what? Which I can actually. I can actually give you classes. I can give you a pretty legitimate gripe. I while the game is fucking phenomenal and I will give it a ten out of ten on my own personal scale because the launch was effectively seamless compared to D3 and it did than any other World of Warcraft. 00:47:37:15 - 00:47:57:26 Unknown I've been involved in the last five World of Warcraft expansion launches between classic and retail, and all five of them have been botched. So I will give them props on a very I mean, there was there was one. There was one. I mean, for me, I had to wait like an extra 2 hours to get in the game because there's an issue with the PlayStation five preorders. 00:47:57:29 - 00:48:12:13 Unknown But whatever, dude, I was in the game by like 9:00. Like, it's not a big deal. I remember the first three I took off. I took off school. Yeah, because I was in college and it was the server error. It was like 203. There was like a specific the code was like a meme for a long day. A day and a half. 00:48:12:13 - 00:48:34:00 Unknown Yeah. Took me to get into that game a day and a half. So that was a really good, I think my, my biggest gripe with the game as it stands right now is that like when we talk about then this is a this is also my gripe with D3 when we talk about D2, if we talk about the blood more, the cold plains, the durance of hate, I remember all of these places. 00:48:34:03 - 00:48:57:23 Unknown I could not fucking tell you shit about the geography for Diablo four. None of that. I come though. I might do that. I don't think so, man. Like for me it's like, cut. I don't know. Like it just is the ocean caverns. God gave a shard. Like. Like the normal cities are, you know, you're going to remember them, but, like, the map is so fucking big dude that my pothead brain will never remember any of it. 00:48:57:23 - 00:49:12:27 Unknown Like, I just won't. Like, I'm just telling you I won't. And I'm not. I'm just saying that as a personal gripe that, like I and this is not just a personal gripe with this game that's a grave of mine with most games today, is that, like the attention to detail is so grand that like, I'm not too grand. 00:49:12:27 - 00:49:31:24 Unknown It's almost too grand, you know, I don't know. I think Red Dead Redemption kind of ruin that for everyone. So I don't I'm not slicing brush up very slowly right now. Yeah. I'm not going to I'm going to stay. See that? That's like by any means deterring me from thinking that this game is bad as fuck. But I understand the industry starts to slow down due to shift. 00:49:31:24 - 00:49:53:12 Unknown Crown does gripe about big anyways. I mean that's that's really not a very serious that's a mild complaint considering the scope of the game. But yeah I'd the party system is good. The guild system works fine. You know wellbeing systems is fantastic. Like the what is good with the guilds. I haven't done anything guild wide. What is the guild Do like? 00:49:53:14 - 00:50:12:27 Unknown I mean, I'm in your guild but yeah, I mean what can you do? You won't. It won't matter until end game. It won't matter. I mean I don't think that they've. So when the season starts I think that, I think that is when we'll find out like what they have planned for guilds and whatnot. I mean as it stands right now, I mean it's really as the season started, I think they said in July, right? 00:50:12:27 - 00:50:32:09 Unknown Yeah, July. I want to say like it was at least five or six weeks before it was supposed to be like two months after the launch, give or take. But that would put it in August. You still want the 199 pack. You get around the place and I spent $90 on the game. I ain't given a fucking dollar of my money, right? 00:50:32:11 - 00:50:57:25 Unknown Yeah. Like if I give you $90 to play the game early, I don't. I am paying a dime. I Look, I want to play this game just like everybody else. That's my point. But anyways, Rogue. Great. I'm playing the trap build. I love it. I put I pick like cal traps, poison trap, poison, implement, call of arrows. And I do the vulnerability one, I really just sit in the back and I just fuck shit up for my boys like I play with my two. 00:50:57:25 - 00:51:16:12 Unknown My buddies are playing bars once, playing a bleed build, the other one's playing it does seem seems a spear, I think. I don't know what. I can't hear what he's playing, but it does seem like they did a good job of better balancing all of the classes from Beta. I will say it does signal the druid is one of the more I don't know. 00:51:16:13 - 00:51:37:22 Unknown I don't wanna say stronger. That's not right. That's fine with me. I just They were not that strong right there. They were not strong. They were not as strong in I think if I, if I had to have a complaint, I really do wish. I feel like there's no reason they didn't give us the classes they had from Diablo three the new classes, I mean, like the Monk and the Crusader and the witch doctor. 00:51:37:24 - 00:51:59:16 Unknown I feel like that's like especially the Crusader with the over the zealot, the the rhetoric of the, you know, an artist religion and like, the light and everything. The Crusader. Sure. I'm sure that'll be like a first class deal. That's what I'm saying. I just I don't feel that care. It it's kind of silly that those are DLC if I mean I'm sure they will be or our you DLC about like some kind of add on or something. 00:51:59:19 - 00:52:18:09 Unknown I feel like they would just be like the monk I think was such a cool different character. I really enjoyed the Monk, the witch doctor, obviously very similar to the Necromancer, but cool in its own right. I feel like if anything, the Druid is pretty much a mix of the Necromancer and the witch doctor in some kind of funny way. 00:52:18:09 - 00:52:37:12 Unknown Of course, there's a reason. Money. Yeah, I know, I know. I. I just. Yeah, I wish I could play my monk. The monk was my favorite class, probably. And Hunter. I understand that. Even I like Crusader a lot. The Rogue is pretty much a version of what the D matter was in some ways. I mean, but does anyone know if my. 00:52:37:13 - 00:52:57:00 Unknown My biggest gripe and I'm playing a sorcerer and a as my soft core character and I'm playing Rogue is my hardcore character. So anyone know if you can actually save different loadouts and specs? Oh, that's a good question, because I actually want to try. So I'm playing a chain lightning build right now for leveling and I'm about to hit level 50. 00:52:57:00 - 00:53:12:25 Unknown I'm at 47, I think, right now. So I but I want to try something different once I hit 50, but I want to save my build that I have now. So without just like I wish I could save it and then like respect and then be able to like, go back and then if I don't like it, just go back to build that I have before. 00:53:12:25 - 00:53:38:04 Unknown Otherwise I remember what I did go through. But, but I, but I'm very curious to see what they do for the different seasons. I will probably play a rogue and soft core for season one because I'm I my time with the Rogue and in the barrage build on hard core has been excellent. I want to try a different spec right now, but I'm also scared to try a different spec. 00:53:38:04 - 00:54:00:12 Unknown Sure, but it's fun. I mean, I play vulnerability to everything and Stan comes in with his necro and just like wipes the map with everything. And so I tried out a also, my alternate character is a lightning source and as one player never dared no walk in there, just chain lightning chain lighting, everything like everything blows up dead. 00:54:00:15 - 00:54:19:08 Unknown I'm like, Huh, Yeah, that's great. It's it's quite fun. But yeah, the game itself is excellent. I'm probably going to be playing it for a long time. I've been playing it nonstop. My wife's probably pretty annoyed at me because I'm a little. It's. I've been playing all the time, every listen, every, every minute of free time that I possibly have. 00:54:19:08 - 00:54:40:22 Unknown This is how you. It's a good game. I went from reading six nights a week to two nights a week. I was going to say two, five nights a week. Wow. This song get you okay. Do you need my narcotics? I think I might need them. I think I might need them. Yeah. That's funny. Yeah. Yeah. And the game's great. 00:54:40:25 - 00:55:06:00 Unknown I would. It is something to hit us up. Can play with us, man. I got to know I'm. I'm always looking for people to play. I always play in groups Like, it's kind of my thing, like solo. It's things scale, right? Things. Things scale. And like, even if you're playing, even if you play like last night, like we were playing like the Matt had his he lost his barbarian, so he made another barbarian and he was all ten playing with me and Stan are like mid thirties and he was fine as well. 00:55:06:01 - 00:55:32:03 Unknown Yeah. And then also also the game, you know, with the maps and everything giving you extra skill points, it definitely helped once you to check out more, you know. Well in this check you go condo I'm I'm okay I'm okay actually to be honest the problem is is like now like once I became a so like what I do is now in this part of the guild that you guys just joined is like I'm an organizer for adequate in world of Warcraft. 00:55:32:03 - 00:55:53:23 Unknown So like I organize raids and then I have a partner that I lead with and we split the, the profits, so to say, and I make I make so much gold of hosting these things. And like once you get a taste of like so, like for example, I made 75,000 gold off a run the other day and, uh, like in a normal run you go to you. 00:55:53:23 - 00:56:13:15 Unknown If you go as like a normal person, you make like 10 to 15 K if you're lucky. And so, like, I made 75,000. So like I'm saving up for shot morning, which is the, the big legendary sword from the Lich King. And Oh, yeah, it's going to it's going to cost me almost a million gold. So I'm like that's, that's my big goal of radical expansion. 00:56:13:17 - 00:56:32:11 Unknown I joined the Discord, but there wasn't a Diablo. I got to. Yeah, I think if you join the adequate discord, you have to actually hit the. Oh, oh, there, there. Yeah. This thing. They're a big discord so they've got a lot. I only saw a very small section, but I didn't see a rules thing. Would you mind shoot me over an invite to the Discord again? 00:56:32:11 - 00:56:56:19 Unknown I left it because I was like, Oh, people probably should me about endgame. I don't know where you're. Oh, it's roll sign up. That's what you have to do is he has to go into the roll sign up channel and there is a Yeah. Can you rainmakers A Yeah. Where's the thing for Diablo though. Oh you have to react to the thing it says this is the react below to receive the diablo for Earl. 00:56:56:21 - 00:57:24:07 Unknown Yeah I'll put a it's actually discord Doug slash adequate. I'll send you a an invite but I sent you one anyways actually we're on a podcast server here sending messages to each other. Anyways for all of you that are that are playing, you know if you guys are needing a Homer Guild or anything like that, welcome to hit us up. 00:57:24:07 - 00:57:54:22 Unknown Come join the adequate crew. And it's a lot of good gamers in their stands. Also playing with the primordial. It's much larger gaming community if that's more your bag, I think we have like 60 people in the adequate guild so far, which is more my or my speed. So. Okay. Yeah. Now now. Okay that's socially and even see the roles yeah yeah they have like this adequate been a guild in been a pretty well-known guild on fair now for probably like since it's classic I would say so they've been they've been a group for a while. 00:57:54:24 - 00:58:12:05 Unknown Yeah but anyway okay game is badass man. I will say that I the thing I like about this is that, you know, we are playing Diablo and this is the first time I've ever played Diablo and felt like I definitely want more people around. Yeah, What's that? Well, yeah, I like, like when I play Diablo two, I'm a weirdo. 00:58:12:05 - 00:58:32:13 Unknown I don't like a bunch of people around because, well, first of all, the loot is, you know, you still inside and draw. Yeah. It's not instanced. You're like, you know, you really don't want a bunch of people around. And in this game it's definitely it pushes you to want a group of people. Sure. I'm interested to see how large the groups get in the larger scale things because you can only have a team of four, right? 00:58:32:19 - 00:58:50:12 Unknown So like it's only ever going to be four. Yeah, but I mean, they're going to I think they're going to have like a raid of some sort or something like that later on where like you will have to put together multiple groups of four. Um, I think they will at some point or another. Yeah. I don't know. I don't, I that's just not that actually that's not something they've ever I mean unless they are trying something new. 00:58:50:12 - 00:59:08:25 Unknown But I would think they really maybe I'm wrong. I would think they are, but maybe I'm wrong know, I just, I just say that because that was the thing in Diablo four. So I mean in a, in a mortal I'm just saying like you could put together like four, four groups or you could put together two groups and go do the raid bosses together. 00:59:08:28 - 00:59:37:08 Unknown Right. Yeah. Yeah. Oh that may, maybe Yeah. Because you could do that because I think four was like the Max group and Immortal. And then you would have. Yeah. And you would do, you would basically do two groups of four together and it would be like three groups of four. It was what. It was like 12. Yeah. There was something you would chew up for it and it would be like, fill the empty slots with people basically, and you would have to like put the people in the slots and with all the PvP stuff in the Guild thing, I'm curious to see what they do for PBB and Guild. 00:59:37:09 - 00:59:53:29 Unknown I haven't tried PBB at all. I haven't tried it at all either. I'm, I'm, I'm, I probably do it just for the trophy stuff. I'll get picked down by somebody. I suck at PDP but anyway but anyway so yeah. So final thoughts on D for I know it's not final final thoughts, but like, what are your what do you get? 00:59:54:06 - 01:00:12:06 Unknown Okay, just okay, that's great. I'm I'm very happy that I'm happy that it's been living up to not just my own, but I think a lot of people's expectations. I feel like it really does feel like they they understood the assignment with this guy. It's like I feel like they knew how important it was that this game be good. 01:00:12:06 - 01:00:46:22 Unknown Otherwise it would have been a lot of people not happy, right? Oh, my God. Could you imagine like No Man's Sky or something or like a cyberpunk thing happening with this game that that would be like that devastating blow for Blizzard that made that the nail in the coffin for Blizzard for blizzard with overwatch two being botched. And basically they they're they're basically fucking what a Rini talk about that she's I mean Overwatch two got tanked they released the Wow token in wild classic which is essentially the death of wild classic because I now don't have to pay for a subscription. 01:00:46:22 - 01:01:05:07 Unknown I have three counts that I buy wow tokens for in-game within in-game gold they cost 5000 fucking gold, which is nothing. I just told you guys I make 75,000 gold off of one of my trades a week. So like I spend 15 K and I just paid paid my three months. How are they supposed to make money off of that? 01:01:05:10 - 01:01:37:14 Unknown You know, I'm saying like, like their monetization has gone for Rask Classic like for a while classic. So nobody's paying for it anymore. Everybody's trying to buy while tokens, so they just botched that. I mean, they just introduced that the ditch approach to like Blizzard. I mean if D4 had sucked Yeah you're right I think they would have probably we would have seen some major company every Yeah I almost feel like can you imagine if blizzard tanked but then everyone in charge of Diablo was able to go independent. 01:01:37:16 - 01:01:57:21 Unknown I thought it was funny. Yeah. Oh, man. But yeah, I'm very, very happy. The game is as good as it is and it feels like it is a breath of fresh air for for Diablo. I mean and if you saw the Path of Exile two trailer but it looks exactly like the before really you know I mean like exile was always like people touted it as a bet as a better deal. 01:01:57:21 - 01:02:17:10 Unknown But three because of had we it had more extensive like customization, class building structures and all that stuff. But really you look at Path Exile two and the trailer is like, oh, that's the that's the plot for. Yeah, yeah, right. I'm a hater, dude. I think Path of Exile sucks, but that's just me. I never could get into that game. 01:02:17:10 - 01:02:36:04 Unknown I never really tried out sides of where it was a good idea, but I feel like they were like, Oh, we're going to be a cooler diablo. And they went to Off the Rails. It's, Listen, dude, I was too much. It's not a bad game. I will never say that. What's that new game that came out recently that's supposed to be like another good RPG starts on E. 01:02:36:06 - 01:02:53:28 Unknown They just came out like a month ago or so. Emotionally, I think it starts with me. I don't know the I guess or something like that. I don't know. I just think Path of Exile is a shittier version of Diablo. I always have and I always will. And I think that I think I think that the skill tree being this fucking big is just obnoxious. 01:02:53:28 - 01:03:15:09 Unknown I really do. And not to mention the fact that when you're playing Path of Exile, you can have it if you play it. Just last epoch. Thank you. You could be playing a class where this side of the tree, the top right side of the trees where one of your skills are and the bottom left side is where one of the skills you need is how is somebody like me who's a fucking pothead ever supposed to remember where anything is on this ginormous fucking grid of abilities? 01:03:15:09 - 01:03:28:29 Unknown I'm sorry. I've never liked people of exile. It was thought it sucked. I was thought it was a shit verse. Not to mention the fact that the guy was doing some kind of rant today. Here items drop like fucking crazy, dude. Like you're full. Like within the first 5 minutes of playing the game. I think it's terrible. I use convoluted. 01:03:28:29 - 01:03:53:05 Unknown I think it's a shit game. Sorry. That's all. You really think I. I've always thought that it was the the Walmart version of Diablo is the it is the Kirkland brand. Diablo. Sorry. I'm just. I'm sorry. It really is. You know, it's funny. It really is. And I mean, there's people that fucking love path of exile that will talk They'll they'll sit here for hours and tell you how like Diablo sucks ass and is, is a shit game by comparison. 01:03:53:06 - 01:04:16:05 Unknown I'm like, right. The path of exile would never exist without Diablo, so you can't really that comparison. So I mean, they ripped off Diablo three and made path of exile. So like, it's might be really funny. Yeah. And then they tried to Indonesia deported to console and they fucked it up like they couldn't even put it over console So that's another reason why they suck ass free on console. 01:04:16:07 - 01:04:32:25 Unknown Yeah. Who do they try to charge for it at first, but then they fucked it all up and they had to offer it for free because no one who the fuck wants to buy more shit that doesn't work, you know? But it was great. I'm glad we were able to find that. Would you disparage Kirkland? Like, that's why we were able to find some kind of rage here. 01:04:32:28 - 01:04:50:29 Unknown We need to find it. We need to get somebody to make a kind to rage emoji thing we do. I think we do. Yeah. The Kirkland brand hot dogs are no joke, and the chicken bakes are fire, too. Don't, don't, don't get you twisted. Okay, I. You're right. I shouldn't have dogged Kirkland like that. I will go back to the Wal-Mart brand because I don't go to Wal-Mart. 01:04:50:29 - 01:05:16:19 Unknown But that's just me. That's fucking. That's funny. Oh, right, right. Well, I think that's going to do it for us because the chef has to go outside and touch some grass part. I'll fuck. It sucks. And so we're going to call it there. Thanks, everyone, for coming out. I'm going to try to scream a little bit today, but I have to move my PlayStation over here because one of these remarkable things I might try to stream today to all we can stream to get well, maybe we could play together and I can watch you when I get back. 01:05:16:19 - 01:05:35:15 Unknown Most we're almost even at the same story party you should do storyline together. Yeah, I'm just about finished three and I'll come hang out with you for two and then I just go, Yeah, with you. Agree? It's fine. Happy to happy to hang in play anyway. So thanks everyone for coming out. You can find us on Instagram Original podcast or Twitters or Chivas B websites Ojai podcast that I found were good. 01:05:35:15 - 01:06:00:27 Unknown This episode, every episode we were talking about what we're playing, what we're looking forward to, a little bit of gaming news, and then till then we'll see you all next time and come hang out with us. If you want to play Diablo for with us, you can come to our discord, which is Discord Dot Me slash O.G. podcast and you'll be able to sign into the Diablo page there and you'll be able to do some stuff and yeah, come hang out and see what we're doing and you'll see all the notifications are streaming and playing and releases and I guess all of that. 01:06:00:27 - 01:06:19:14 Unknown But let us know what you think about Diablo four in the comments below and this video and or because we're going put this on YouTube, maybe some chick talks and maybe some other stuff. No, but anyway, let us know what you think. If you think you got any suggestions for us, we're happy to talk about them. Or if you want anything else, you know, tag us on Instagram or whatever. 01:06:19:16 - 01:06:53:22 Unknown So see all later and looking forward to seeing you on Twitch and in in-game and on a disc or so. So then see you then be Scrooge.