Dom:                00:00:00       Let's go.

Speaker 2:          00:00:02       Here we go.

Dom:                00:00:06       I see recording. You're not going to know anything. Yeah, I know. I know your tricks now. I'm not a fool. I'm not [inaudible]. I know now it's like a, you know better. I'm not being this. What's that? What was that Dateline or the Dateline to do, to walk out of like the, the, like, like the old creepy dudes. Like he'd be like, Hey, we want to sit down in this chair over here. Like, that's what you're doing with me every time that Chris, Chris, whatever, his Harper, I don't know his name. You're trying to get me. I'm not going to get, got

Speaker 2:          00:00:38       no.

Speaker 3:          00:00:50       [inaudible].

Charlie:            00:00:50       What's up everybody? Welcome to the overachievers gaming podcast at the Marvel strike force insider edition number 12. Here. We're back as Christ 12. We're at 12, which means we've been doing this for three months. You know, that's math. I don't know math. Well, actually. Oh, actually, no, it's longer that at 12. We've been doing it for six months. Not three months. I can't math. Wow. We're doing it biweekly. So anyway. Uh, I am your host VASH, AKA Charlie joined as always by the other half of the overachievers gaming podcast, Dommy ashy pastrami. And this week returning back to the podcast to talk to us is my new Alliance leader mystic Mack. What's up buddy? New Alliance leaders. True. Our new Alliance leader as well. Hey, I'm happy to be back on the podcast. I had a lot of fun last time and happy to do it again. Yeah, thanks for joining us again.

Charlie:            00:01:45       This a lovely Saturday evening cause uh, you know we're old now and have nothing to do on Saturday evenings. We can't go out and do stuff so it's great to deal. It's laying on the couch. Yeah, absolutely. Good. Yeah, that's exactly what I've been looking forward to doing all week and I can't wait to, to continue doing that after we're done recording cause my wife is currently out shopping for Christmas presents. So once we're done I want to go back to playing a ghost recon break point. So that'd be fun. You're playing that. I thought it was way, it's fun. I mean I got it through GameFly so shout out to game flies, you know, sponsor us. Um, big. It will be good for that sponsor's game plan. I'm going to, you know, I'm gonna add them right now. You should, you should ask them. I've been meaning to clip some stuff instead into anyway.

Charlie:            00:02:29       Uh, you can find us on Instagram at O G. dot. Podcast or website is being over cheever.com. I'm going totally out of order. Our Twitter, nothing is overachievers. P M all right I'm going to go to the website again being overachiever.com is where you can get this episode and every other episode that we do offer rusty. Yeah, we did have last weekend off cause we took the rest of the year off for the regular podcast. So we do a Marvel strike force podcast. We also do a regular podcast about video games in general and currently we're off until the end of the year in which we're going to be doing our game of the year episode. Just cause we have a lot going on. We do the podcast every weekend. It gets tiring. I mean, some stuff, it's hard. It gets, it gets very tiring. So anyways, let's get into it with the bacon and go with our two week recap.

Charlie:            00:03:18       But first we actually know, now this will be the end of the recap. Okay. So this, the blitzes we had in the past two weeks, I've been a Ronin yay. I guess I liked it. I isolated Phoenix, so it was good for me. There you go. Uh, we had the first round of strife, which I don't know how you guys did. I was pushing a little hard and like I got like think like 1800 in that blitz or something like that. So I know, uh, I know your, your thoughts on blitz. Mack is like, you just

MysticMac:          00:03:45       don't, no, I actually, for sinister and strife, I didn't blitz. I think for strikes first blitz I got top 2%, but that's the highest I've done in a month or two at the most.

Charlie:            00:03:57       So yeah, I will have to say though, I'm glad that with the new changes that top 2% still gets you shards on the second round of things. So I'm right there right now, I'm sitting at 7 million for the second round of Stripe, which is happening now. And uh, and then being between strife and or the events of Stripe, we had the most awaited character release that everyone's been waiting for night nurse. That was great. Fantastic. Uh, they even do her like, yeah, maybe, but even so

MysticMac:          00:04:31       new players have their own blitz shards. So I mean, anyone who's out of the new player, blitz shard, they don't really need Niners. I mean much better healers now. So

Charlie:            00:04:41       yeah, like, yeah, but back in the day she was O G and O P so, but uh, and then I guess we're back with the, I already said the second strike file. It's, we've been off for two weeks.

MysticMac:          00:04:54       You said you were at 7 million for this 7 million. Currently right now I'm at 700,000 barely, barely hit the milestones. I don't do that shit at all. Well, I might, I might push a little harder because I have a feeling, uh, I heard a rumor that psych ops is going to be a legendary, this is a rumor and I'm thinking they might require more routers. So I mean, if you think about it, who else? If I want to missing, they could require supernaturals or marauders or whoever, but right. Just a rumor by man, if that's the case, if they do, they don't even have five marauders out yet. So that's a thing. True. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, definitely true.

Charlie:            00:05:42       Either way. It'd be really shitty if they did. Um, supernatural because of, you know, ghost writers and Elsa are all paywall.

MysticMac:          00:05:50       I don't even have ghost writer, five-star having five red star, but I haven't four gold star. So, yeah, I uh,

Dom:                00:05:58       I know, I know. I always say I don't buy things, but I went ahead and bought that offer for groceries. I just, I was seriously 40 yards away and I was like, you know what, I want this team. I really want this team. Especially the $50 offer. No, there was a $30.

Charlie:            00:06:13       Okay. And how do you, how do you feel about your decisions? I just hope my girlfriend didn't hear me and sorry, I had your money. Dom, you gotta you can do with it without you ever, you won.

Dom:                00:06:24       There's still judgment. No,

Charlie:            00:06:27       that's 30 less hamburgers you're going to have.

Dom:                00:06:28       Honestly, if I would've, if I would've paid more attention to that, I was going to get invisible woman. I probably wouldn't have bought gross writer cause I was going to dump everything into supernatural. Now I finally have a visible woman. Which event, obviously that's probably part of the recap too, was that visible event is live. Uh, it will be ended by the time this episode is live, but I finally invisible women in fantastic forces to crucial in war, like two crucial.

MysticMac:          00:06:51       Do you have, do you have them all in locked

Dom:                00:06:54       finally, finally at all? Yeah, I did it before. Seriously, before this event, I didn't have the, the problem is they're all garbage stars, garbage namers four red stars. That's about it.

MysticMac:          00:07:05       That's good though. I mean I do a shit ton of roster reviews and fantastic for, they're probably the team I recommend most everybody just because you have them high enough, they can pretty much be any defensive team out there. So

Dom:                00:07:18       yeah, I mean luckily like bio is like I only use tech as I'm sure most people are like have like before like fantastic forests. So I have mad bio, I'm going to like really dump into them. Uh, so I'm really excited for that. But yeah, the invisible woman event, thank God that finally came back around. I finally had finished the stick six, five star enough to get her. So nice. Nice. Yeah,

Charlie:            00:07:40       no, that's a, that was a good, I got a, I was able to unlock them visible when around the first time she came around and I got her to six star, did not have enough to get her to seven star, which I'm, you know, I was debating whether I wanted to push or not and I was like maybe like I'm about 120 shards shy of shocker and like 60 on Mysterio and I've just told myself I'm not going to buy those offers when they come around. I'm just going to wait it out. It's fine. Star's fine. She's only, she's only a three red star for me. So

MysticMac:          00:08:10       that's about right. That's about how far off I was as well. And I didn't push it either. I mean I'm farming so much stuff right now. It's just going to happen whenever it happens. Nobody's going to dump money into it.

Charlie:            00:08:22       Yeah. So I've been pushing for S guardians cause we saw, I mean, we were going to talk about the, you know, this war section later on, but we, we've seen now that, you know, four of the, as guardians are out with Heimdall and, uh, [inaudible] sips coming six coming out Thursday. And I'm curious to see how she performs and whatnot. But we saw with this, this past week's war that as guardians are really difficult to beat on ward

MysticMac:          00:08:49       and it's to say the least. Uh, yeah, they impress me. Um, I'm, I'm, I'm at the point where I'm like, uh, telling people you we see like a 300 K as guardian team. I'm like, just use X-Men cause I mean, yeah, yeah. They're, they're good. They're really good. They're tough to beat. I mean, um, they're kind of new. So anytime there's a new team that comes out, people don't really know what to use against them. But I've used, I P I tried to punch down a a hundred K would defenders got beat trying to power power armor team, got beat trying to aim team got beat. So, uh, yeah. Uh, I've seen a lot of people beat him with aim but I haven't figured it out yet.

Charlie:            00:09:32       Yeah. I was able to get lucky with some aim, uh, with my aim team. But it was like, uh, like my aim team is like I think 200 K and like I was facing like a maybe like 180 K as guardian team. So they weren't super powerful but I was able to get lucky. I really think though that the strategy to beating the as guardian team, not to give away secrets here on the podcast but is really just trying to take a hell of first and then a crucial Loki. Yeah. Cause you just have to, because once she, once she starts spreading buffs and start killing people, like I don't know, there's one, there's one point which like after one battle I had three, Greg's on the field

MysticMac:          00:10:09       and it's, I mean it's all, they're all tough because Thor is a beast now. I mean you gotta, you gotta be careful of his passive. When he gets five charges, you could have defense down on you or something and you just wipe the map cause everybody, so you really gotta pick and choose and be careful that battle. Um, so I don't, I don't know. I'm really impressed with them. I'm working, I'm working my ass guardians up sides. I can get them right now.

Charlie:            00:10:35       Um, which is interesting for me cause like I'm currently lacking on any sort of mystic gear. I've haven't, I have not had a single mystic gear show up in the store section, like store a raid or war store at all this week. And it's been really frustrating because I just have to keep refreshing nodes to farm them. But I was like, come on, give me three times a day. I mean, good thing SIF is a skill character. Oh my God. Thank goodness. Yes. Yeah. Seriously didn't even think about that, but that's, that's great. So yeah, so there was other still dying, the dying from a month ago. Um, so the other thing that that is, um, that happened, uh, as of this recording, well, today's Saturday, so yesterday the Heindel event happened and it was up for all of an hour before it got pulled because there was an issue in which as you were doing core refreshes, that the, it was actually refreshing your campaign and not the event campaign, which is more than the calendar in terms of reimbursement. Yeah. So the reimbursement was a, you got a charge for, I think it was a 35 charge total or something like that until they bring it back.

MysticMac:          00:11:42       So I have two things here. One, why are they launching stuff on a Friday night when all of them are going home on the weekend to where if something goes wrong, they can't come and fix it. So we gotta wait, whoever knows how long. And too, uh, I heard that some people think that this calendar is just a week of the advance. So when the event finally comes back, we'll only have it for a week instead of two weeks, which would be bullcrap because you know, if the regular event broken one, you know what I mean? If the regular event was up, we would be getting more than five shards a day. So if that's the case, they need to make sure they're running the event, the full scheduled two weeks when they bring it back instead of just giving us five shards a day and saying, Oh, there, there you go. So

Charlie:            00:12:31       yeah, especially since they're going to be requiring as guardians for black bolt, which is kind of shitty, you know, it's like, it's for people who don't want to open their wallets and whale out on, on, uh, characters and whatnot. It's, it's really kind of a fuck you to them just because of the, you know, just the, it's like, so some people like to enjoy this game and play it for our, for the, you know, the Marvel aspects. Some of it for the competitive aspects. Some of it for, you know, maybe a little bit of both with the strategy and whatnot. But it's like, come on now, why? Why is this? Um, why would you go and do this to your player base is like, and actually I'm just curious like why don't they just QC this stuff? Like, like did, did they not have a QC team?

Charlie:            00:13:11       It'd be nice to hear, but you know, you, you can never, you can never really like, you never know honestly like, like now, and I'm trying to learn more about coding with, since, you know, my girlfriend's like an engineer now and it's like, shit slipped through the cracks. Unfortunately it slipped through the cracks. But just like, still like quality control is like, yeah, all the controls, just like, you know, you go through the whole point of quality control is to like test out and make sure everything works to really max that out. You really stress the hell out of it. And you're like, yeah, it's, it's a lot of if then statements, so if I do this, but then what happens? You know, I break cause that's what happens. Yeah. Yeah. But either way, it's just, it's just frustrating that now you know, that, you know, since a player base we, the player base are now being forced to go for it and then just, you know, Hey, like where are the, where are the testers now? So yeah, you're right that the shitty thing is that there's going to be, you know, this can be offers, there's going to be more offers now. And I mean, yeah, they offered, they offered a couple of offers, uh, when the events that happened, a bunch of orders that you can buy. Like you can buy five Wars for 20 you want this in front of you.

MysticMac:          00:14:21       Sadly, they've suckered me into it, so can't say much. Yup.

Charlie:            00:14:26       Oh, gotcha. Yeah, exactly. There's a Fox, an employee like, yes, he has listened to podcasts. Yeah. But either way. So I'm still enjoying the game as it is and I really think that the new characters are a really good, it's something that we needed for a while with mechanics and whatnot though. Although one thing I wanted to talk about since this is still part of the recap, since black bolt was announced and also was announced and how they get and what's, what's, you know, five as guardians. Um, luckily there's three of them have been out for a while, a little on a tube, been out for a while. Hell has been out for maybe a month or so. Um, I am jealousy now coming in and six coming in a blitz, which I'm not stoked about, but it is what it is. But, so this skill set for Blackbelt really kind of makes me wonder.

Charlie:            00:15:16       So essentially is passive is like if there's somebody underneath, is it 25%, he starts to auto attack. Like anybody who it gets under that. And then if you're, if you're tech villain Ultron, he automatically starts you attack for like double damage or something like that. Um, and then if he kills somebody with, um, you know, if he gets, if he lands a final blow or whatnot, what she probably will, if they're going under 25% very quick, very easily, uh, they cannot be revived. Now, the only, you know that that kind of works against Ultron in terms of, um, you know, his self revive or anything like that. W w if he starts to match. But at first I was like, Oh, this is going to be a great combat and two arena shards and arena defenses. And I think this would be kind of cool.

Charlie:            00:16:03       And I say, man, adds another theory crafting to it. But the thing that I was thinking about and I read a lot about online is that just, it's mainly, I'm thinking that this is mainly an AI thing, so they're going to start putting this in raid so can start putting this in dark dimension because it kind of negates, uh, their, you know, Minerva or scientist Supreme or Ultron in general. Like as soon as he, uh, summons, he gets disrupted and you can't get any of his buffs. The only thing you can really do is just have scientists bring on your team and just like flip those busts if you need to. Right. It's just like kind of frustrating.

MysticMac:          00:16:37       Yeah. I mean, um, as far as like war blitz in arena, I wasn't too concerned about it. But it's definitely going to change the landscape of raids and dark dimension and yeah, you know all that. Cause we basically own any global or tech node. We're all bringing in Ultron. So what's going to happen when they plop a black bolt, you know, in there and make it that much more difficult. So I don't know. We'll have to see what happens. I just have a feeling we're going to start. I have to keep him blinded all the time

Charlie:            00:17:07       to happen. Cause that's the only, that's the only way that you can combat that. I think if you just keep him blinded, he can't apply the D buffs and then you'll be golden. So he's going to be a lot of, a lot of star Lord's in there. And there's tech globals, although I don't think the star Starla is global at all. But anyway, uh, we're finishing up on the, the alpha raids right now, right? Or is it alpha or is it beta? Beta. Okay. Beta raids cause how long it's been, we're about halfway through, right? I believe so they end next week after this. A beta raid ends in two days. Nevermind. Bitter aid ends in two days. So there we go. So, uh, it's

MysticMac:          00:17:44       next week. Brain brain. I always set it and say next year, hello.

Charlie:            00:17:50       There's so much stuff happening constantly. Yeah, no, and I'm just, I just feel like I'm all over the all over the place with everything. Um, but uh, yeah. So how are you guys doing with any beta rates? I know, uh, Mackinaw airlines, we're constantly clearing a hundred percent in beta for all the time. I'm curious if they're going to actually make a beta five or any of these Greek grade five. So

MysticMac:          00:18:12       I'm sure you will. Yeah. Down the road. I'm assuming they would. I seen a, I think it was a data mine about a Delta raid and then, ah, yes. So we'll see what that is. And then I also seen something about hydro raid, so I dunno, it seems exciting. But yeah, these are pretty monotonous right now for us, especially if we're clearing them 100% every day. The same three. Um, the orbs are bad. It's just kind of, yeah, the character, the character.

Charlie:            00:18:41       No shards are not that great. Like the only, the only thing that I want out of it at this point is hydro armored guard. I have him at six red stars on Binzel slowly working on him. That's hilarious. Well when he uh, when the hydro reorg comes, my day by day will shine. Exactly. I'm actually kind of, I'm actually kind of looking for, I really like the reworks

Dom:                00:19:06       they've been doing well these reworks have been cool.

MysticMac:          00:19:09       That ultimate rework was pretty damn good. I faced the last war I faced a 400 K ultimate captain Marvel and the nerve, a core Athan CyBorD team and I couldn't figure him out. They crushed my Wakanda team. They crushed my a think I took in a brotherhood team too as well. They, I mean the team that I the I'm pretty impressed on that. It makes me want to work on ultimate finally.

Dom:                00:19:36       Yeah. My, the team is like once I finally got ultimate, so I'm super excited. I have a seven red star cyborg five red star, six star, captain Marvel, five red star, a Cree Reaper. So yeah, I'm feeling pretty good about that team. Once I get all to this, I just don't want to miss yet. I'm just too, I'm like, I haven't got, you know what I mean? If that's what's up being a new player.

Charlie:            00:19:56       So explain to me, cause I didn't read the patch notes or see it in there. What do they change?

Dom:                00:20:01       It was the passive, what was the biggest deal I remember before the passive was your non-country allies got better butts than your Korean allies, but they just changed it so that it's actually better. And I think his ultimate actually does good damage this time, I think. I think that's really all it is. They buffed it 5% I think for passive, for Cree allies,

MysticMac:          00:20:20       uh, he does more damage. Any, hold on, let me get the passion. I was, cause I don't know exactly what they did, but he's a lot, lot better than [inaudible].

Dom:                00:20:30       Yeah, it was just weird because, yeah, his passes before gave a better buff to nine CRE and it's like, what was the point? What's the point of that, I guess, right? I mean,

Charlie:            00:20:38       yeah, cause he's a [inaudible]. He's the Cree overlord. Essentially. He now he's done now he wasn't working with Korea was better for non crew than it was for CRE flares. I was like, uh, as, as if it was the same with Ronan or like, he's like, Oh, well Korean allies get those, but not great. But anyway.

MysticMac:          00:20:53       All right. All right. Here's this changes, um, is basic increases damage. Uh, it has a 30% chance to apply defense down and mind control one enemy to attack the primary target. So that's pretty good. Um, special, increased damage added, piercing, uh, transfer, all positive effects excluding stealth Anton from each target to sell and then apply regeneration to self and adjacent allies. Uh, ultimate, he can use his ultimate and turn one now and then his passive, um, on enemy time change speed bar by 30%. Uh, so if you have a coal wrath and he uses a special turn one, you're going to change the speed bar by 30% on Ultimate's. Um, on kill change, V-Bar by 15% for all non-credit allies, 20% for all CRE allies, uh, gain 20% block chance plus 10% block chance pertinent on mini increase ally. Um, non minium CRE allies gain 20% block chance and then gained 20% max health non-money increase allies also gained 20% max L. so

Charlie:            00:22:02       I see why you got smoked. Yeah. Intense. Yeah. My, my beloved, the Wakandans were no match. A hundred K King a M Killmonger Killmonger. Yes. Hendrick K Killmonger. Yeah, Lizzy seven six, jeez. Yeah. And again, to get smoked by that, that's just nutty. So it's, it's a, you know, I like these little mini reworks. It's kind of fun. Like just, that's kinda going back with what I was saying before. It's just, you know, I like that they're making these small changes. Like before it was a small Hawk rework, which made it more annoying to deal with, especially for rates and whatnot. But I don't know if you guys have noticed at all that the guardian and the re the reworks for the as guardians has not made it into the rates yet. So cause if you, if you attack 'em there's like one note I think in the beta rage right now where it's, it starts off with two loci, two Thor and mystique or something like that and a few tack Loki, uh, the Thor's dog gain any charges or anything like that. So, which is good for now. Finger fingers crossed that that stays that way. I was just delivered warm cookies and now I am jealous her watching you eating. Oh my God. Tell us I'm so sorry.

Charlie:            00:23:27       All right. I guess this'll be a me and me, me and mag from the, I was going to be myself. I'm going, I'm nodding. I'm listening to where I am. So sorry. It's fine. It's fine. We're just going to sit here and be jealous of your, your delicious warm cookies as you go and chew them and look at your girlfriend with a loving embrace. How many did you just fit in your mouth? Three you came in an answer right now. Okay. Just one that was fantastic Lord. And it get never gets any better, uh, or it doesn't get better. I don't know what it means. I don't know what I'm talking about. Anyway. All right, so that's a, just a quick recap of the past two weeks. I'm sure there's other stuff that I missed, but you know what, that's perfectly okay. Continue mr cookie.

Dom:                00:24:15       This is not, this is not good for anyone but me. I've, I've gotten my third two. Your 13 or do your 13 character? Almost done. My other two.

Charlie:            00:24:31       Oh good. What's your, what's your team look like right now?

Dom:                00:24:35       It's not the best, but it's not worse. It's been there ever with great group. Yup. A rocket rocket probably isn't the best here, but then I also am doing shield security and um, uh, uh, with our shield head guy. Oh my God, we might, what's wrong with me? Romanek yes. God. Nick fear. Yes. That's pretty good. I didn't realize that rocket wasn't the best damage person to have. I thought like, I should just go all in on rocket for everything. Um,

Charlie:            00:25:00       well it'll be good. It'll be good to have that for, uh, for war and you know, any rage or anything like that. So let's just not, it's not a bad choice. So your team is Minerva rocket group, fury and shield security. Yeah. See I think you might, you may have a problem is you don't have energy generation. You don't have star Lord or JJ, so you're more nervous. Ultimate's going to be slow, which may cause some problems. But I mean overall it's not a terrible team. But

Dom:                00:25:30       yeah, I've got told to either go Groot or, yeah, Jessica Jones. And unfortunately I was not unfortunately, but I was more into group than Jones. I could still go her cause I have, I have, it would just be a little bit longer. But I mean I just wouldn't, you know, exactly. I just never have been in fear of the darkness. I finally can clear end of the darkness, like fairly easily now, which is a crazy thing to say that I never thought I'd, you know what, I never thought I'd be here. But other than that, um, cause I've, I've just finally started doing enter the darkness and clearing it. And that's like the past month has been for me is getting way more ability maths to be able to do this. Uh, and of course by the time I get an Ultron, there's going to be a hard counter at all.

Charlie:            00:26:10       Yeah. I was just about to say that

Dom:                00:26:16       player. Yeah. Yes. But now, yes. Now there's nothing new to add except for me finishing this cookie. There you go.

Charlie:            00:26:21       So that, that brings me to the, uh, the question I was going to say about stuff that's upcoming. Um, obviously we don't know when Blackbelt is up is going to be released where we can only assume that it's gonna be in 2020, because the end of the year is in two weeks. So we'll see what happens. I, I think they said January. Oh really? Okay. So, so we'll have to, um, I'll have to farm long and hard to get the Heindel up to, um, FiveStars at least, cause you'll, you'll, you'll need five stars of as guardian. So if you don't have four and Loki now start farming those notes, especially the mystic three dash nine which I believe is a, you can do a supernatural if you're having trouble with it and it can be easy, it can be done easier with a fairly, I'm not inexperienced but a underpowered team so you can get through that pretty easily. So if you need to farm Loki, I highly recommend working in that center in the way, right? No, currently, yeah, if she comes out with an offer, I might have to pick her up cause I'm 40 shards shy of hell. I, I if I had hit, uh, the top 1500 her on her second round and I missed it by like one turn rotation last time I was so upset I did 14 and a half million and I'm, and I missed it by like, you know, maybe, maybe like 400.

MysticMac:          00:27:40       Yeah, I mean, she's a beast. I would definitely recommend getting her as high as you can. Even in [inaudible] I use her on that, uh, Ultron minion node before I was having the two shot it. And then I threw her in with Falcon and it's an easy one shot in the house. So she's definitely, uh, worth it.

Charlie:            00:27:57       How does that work in terms of like, um, what, what makes her great for that? Just for the DebOps spread? Or is it just for,

MysticMac:          00:28:05       yeah, so, um, so the Ultron minions will give their buffs out and then Falcon will give your team speed bar a scientist Primo put DebOps on them. And so they're going to have slow, you're going to have speed bar speed up, you're going to focus warm machine, and then when it comes to hell, the second turn, you're going to spread all those DebOps and then you're just picking them apart from there. So it's definitely worth it. She's not great for all the nodes, but on certain nodes she's clutch as fuck. So, um, and not to mention she's badass on board offense as well. So I definitely recommend getting her up as high as you can.

Charlie:            00:28:45       Yeah. And currently all my as guardians right now are sitting at level 65 and geared tier 11. I think Loki is only geared to year nine, which I'm working on getting him up a little higher. So I like to have a little baseline for everyone. And then once I have that, um, I'll um, I'll run with that. I currently have as guardian sitting there with carnage written for me right now on a warrant defense cause my carnage is a beast. These are like 77, uh, six red star, seven red, seven yellow star.

MysticMac:          00:29:13       Oh you have full. Okay. I got that ultimate man. Just delete someone, right?

Charlie:            00:29:20       It did. Pretty much. We'll delete someone or if it doesn't delete somebody. Um, cause hello actually goes immediately is the next person to take a turn right after carnage goes so you can use the carnage ultimate on somebody and then hell will immediately spread all three bucks if you, if he, you know, if he uses it on a tank, which I think is better not to use them on tank with defense or something like that. So you can get all three of the bleeds going for two turns and she spreads it for everyone and you're just, they're just done. You just watch people fall over, it's fantastic.

Dom:                00:29:51       Yeah.

Charlie:            00:29:53       Uh, yeah. So, uh, what are, what are the other things that are, um, you know, outside of black belt coming up, uh, anything that you guys are looking forward to coming out? Uh, I'm actually looking forward to playing the Heimdall campaign whenever that comes out.

Dom:                00:30:05       I almost finished it too. I was at the last node right before it stopped. How was the story? I didn't read it. I sped through it. Oh, same, I spent there too. Yeah. I usually, I usually care more about it, but I don't know why I would just like, yeah, I don't care. Uh, yeah. Uh,

MysticMac:          00:30:22       he did this thing where they had it on a countdown for like a week, so we were all super excited for it.

Dom:                00:30:27       Yeah. Right here. There just goes away after a few hours. So one thing I'm not necessarily excited for or not, but they announced that, did they say that they're delaying isolate again?

Charlie:            00:30:38       Yeah. Uh, I don't know if there's good bits again, but they, they've said it in the past that it was going to come out in February or the first quarter of 2020, so I don't know if that means it's going to be even,

Dom:                00:30:48       I saw that they posted on Reddit and they're like, Hey, I used to weight is not doing what we wanted it to do in beta or in testing. Uh, we're not, didn't they say they're not essentially confident in it right now or something?

MysticMac:          00:31:00       Um, let me just say, I'm very happy that they're delaying it and I will say that you guys should be very happy that they are delaying it. Um, I, I hope they make this what it should be instead of what it was. Um, I don't know. I'm just happy they're delaying it. The longer they work on it, the better. Cause the first version did not have good reviews. So

Dom:                00:31:24       yeah, they straight up said like, it's just not, I mean, it's hard to say that it's hard to say like something you want to do or that you're planning to do isn't working. So we can't do it just yet. You know, that they could've just came out with it and it could have been Trainwreck. Yeah. Where are you in that test?

MysticMac:          00:31:44       Uh, not in that test.

Charlie:            00:31:48       Okay. Fair copy of that. Yeah. Yeah. I'm curious to see what they have to, to, you know, refine that and change it. And I'm curious, I'm curious, I'm curious more about like if they'll have a second round of testing once they're done, you know, refining it and doing it as opposed to just releasing it. So hopefully that,

MysticMac:          00:32:07       I hope they take the feedback if they do

Dom:                00:32:11       people in it. Right. It was like actually a fairly large community of it.

MysticMac:          00:32:15       Yeah. There was a large, I think a couple of alliances and then some content creators. Uh, but yeah, I hope they really take the feedback and make it make it good.

Dom:                00:32:26       Yeah, sure. Fair. I mean, yeah, I mean, from what you heard.

MysticMac:          00:32:31       And another thing we haven't mentioned was yo-yos coming to the game soon.

Dom:                00:32:35       Oh yeah. I honestly, I'll tell you right now, being like the resident Marvel, Laura dork, I don't know. I'm everything in humans. I've actually skipped over. I'm so here and here. Here's why. Just a quick tangent. The thing I don't like about the Inhumans is there is this weird rhetoric that the people of the Marvel universe are chill within humans, but then they're still not chill withX men with mutans. And even though technically Inhumans humans are like ancient outer space aliens, there's just still this thing that the, you know, the mutans are an allegory for, for race relations in early America and stuff like that. And you know, like still having the people of this universe hate mutans. Uh, it's really cool. Dialogue usually happens from that. And it's stuff that makes you reflect and think about how you treat other people and people that are different.

Dom:                00:33:24       You blah, blah, blah. But then was like, Oh yeah, and humans, all you're stuck in this pod from this mist hit you and now you're, you've, you've, you've kind of mutated, but we're not calling it a mutation because you're not a meeting, you're an inhuman. I always thought it was just lazy. I thought it was a lazy addition to this universe and I never liked it more wise. So I don't nothing about all I know is anything from secret Wars cause black bolt was part of Illuminati and blah blah blah blah blah. But yeah, I just, I just don't really know too much about humans. I don't know. Like I don't even know the fuck yo-yo is. Sorry for like yeah

Charlie:            00:33:55       I don't either. She's from the sh the show. Right. She's from Marvel agents of shield. I haven't seen that show though. I started

Dom:                00:34:01       it was okay.

MysticMac:          00:34:02       That's a good show. Especially like the first six seasons.

Dom:                00:34:05       Well cause they kept it Canon and then it diverged. Right.

MysticMac:          00:34:08       Yeah. And my favorite part of the show is ghost writers. So if you love ghost writer, definitely watch a show.

Charlie:            00:34:14       Oh Jojo was in it and that's how I know who she is as an agency. Shield. Yeah. Yeah. Watch this show.

MysticMac:          00:34:22       It's one of my favorite a ghost writer. Appearances.

Dom:                00:34:25       Dang. I really, I do need to watch it cause I heard that they do really well cause they, they like loosely, we'll mention the stuff from the movies, right? Like they'll say like the advent in New York or stuff like that. Like the kind of funny ways of talking

MysticMac:          00:34:38       and Nick fury makes appearances. So it kinda ties into the MCU but not really

Dom:                00:34:45       because it will at one point they just completely stopped like being candid I think. Yeah. Something, yeah, something weird happened. Writing-wise I don't know, I remember reading this online but that's pretty cool. I mean it makes sense that they would take characters from every facet they can even though like this game universe is like different in a way. Um, yeah, I guess we'll see. I mean they uh, casino added like the Inhumans will be assured to win team and blitz.

MysticMac:          00:35:14       So I don't, I don't know that Jojo, I haven't looked at yo-yos kit too much. I've heard pretty ridiculous. Yeah, I've heard that. I've heard good things about it. Um, obviously her speed is

Charlie:            00:35:25       the best in the game. Yeah. Well it is. It's, it is the best in the game I think, which I think right now captain Marvel is the fastest person and she um, is uh, couple of points ahead of captain Marvel, which is just ridiculous. So, and then she has some, I don't remember what the skill sets are off the top of my head actually. No, I can queue it all while I talk. So I'm going to do two things at once. I'm going to talk and delay while I, while I open up the game in order to talk smart marble. I marble smash smart.

Dom:                00:35:55       Well her like super powers speed speed. So it makes sense.

Charlie:            00:36:00       Well it's a, yeah, it's super speed but she comes back to the point in which she started the SuperSpeed hence yoga yoga goes back and forth, bounce back and forth. Yeah. I gotcha. Yeah, you get the, uh, you get the, well, I'm just, I'm explaining, I'm mansplaining it to your dumb,

Dom:                00:36:14       but I'm a man. That is definitely what mansplaining is. That's exactly how it, how it works. You're just using business diversion tactics. So she, she's a shield and inhuman, so she might have a spot on a non minion shield team or an inhuman team and her passive talks about that as well. So like I said, I haven't looked at it in much, but I've heard good things about it. So we'll try ever, you're taking a sweet old goddamn time finding the yoyo passive funny cause I could've had it too. I'm just blurting and just averting blame to you.

Charlie:            00:36:49       Uh, but like I mean her, her, um, her special, which is flurry, it was going to be interesting. It's um, I don't have the exact numbers in front of me, but right now her, the base of it, it says attack the primary target for 60% damage plus bonus attack two times for 60% damage. Um, at the end it, it continues to, goes up by 20 every level with the exception of the second one. Um, but at the end, like it'll, that'll also do, um, if you T for it a level seven and a repeats detached the three additional random targets. So you're going to hit four people with probably 200% damage.

Dom:                00:37:20       Yeah.

Charlie:            00:37:22       Anna. Anna can't be counterattacked so it's going to be, um, it's going to be ridiculous and all and Oh and her basic, uh, calls. We'll pull a, an assist from any Inhumans. So black bolt or you know, quake or captain Marvel, which will be interesting. Or um, that got more, um, ms Marvel. I'm curious to see if, you know, if ms Marvel will be on this, um, this team or not, or if she be better with a hero

Dom:                00:37:46       here. Our brothers are actually one of them because of her. I just can't, not only do I think they wouldn't do that. I hope they don't do that. Yeah. I love are brothers. It's easily my favorite team to play with. Like, I just enjoy playing with that team. I'm already sat down. I'm taking captain Marvel off for once. I get ultimate, you know what I mean? Like, but I, luckily there's tons of brawlers so

Charlie:            00:38:06       that's true. Yeah. There's there, I'll ask you if you don't have like a, I mean, now that you have a, the invisible woman, like you should definitely work on that. Right?

Dom:                00:38:13       Here's my plan. Here's my plan. I've seen this, I've seen like this team comp a little bit. Um, when I get mr S I'm almost, I just, I just looked at him almost closest sinister and I guess sinister, I'm going to put carnage and venom with, with uh, or not Carter venom. Wait, am I messing this up already? Know carnage and I'm going to go with a brotherhood. [inaudible] uh, and then I'll a goblin back to [inaudible] 68 take eight cable off of it and then I'll put Spiderman and miles on, uh, my brother team.

Charlie:            00:38:45       That's a pretty, that's a pretty good run. I'm going to give you an alternate version of that brother, uh, that, um, brotherhood team, which has been working very well for me in war. Is that the crossbones in, what's it called? Crossbones and fat rescue.

Dom:                00:38:58       Yeah. Yeah. We didn't, we talk about that. Talk to him about this a while ago. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, that, that team is apparently a solid.

Charlie:            00:39:07       Yeah. So it's essentially brotherhood. Um, and then instead of, instead of saber tooth and mystique, it's a kingpin in crossbones cause you will get, if you say pyro special for round two, uh, you get the defense up and authentic out from kingpin to survive the rocket alt, um, that will happen immediately after and then you can, um, you know, you can then use pirate special to do massive damage. And then everyone's ultimate, the big attacks go off at the same time. And um, having, um, a juggernaut, uh, do his ultimate with an offense up is pretty desperate for like a hundred K. so it's nuts. It's nuts. So, but either way, like that's still a, you know, having venom and carnage on that team with brotherhood is still not a bad idea. So I guess we'll see. That's good. Yeah. The ability block, which will help you, although, um, you could always switch out a, what is it, a, you switch our carnage with ant man. And that tends to be the, uh, minority.

Dom:                00:40:03       That's so, that's so funny. Like ant man. Yeah. There's, or miles, there's a couple of different versions you can do. Just depends on, I guess which one you have better red stars for. Yeah. So I took us out there. I'm sorry. I don't know why.

Charlie:            00:40:22       I don't remember what I was getting at anyway. I think we were talking about stuff that's coming out next [inaudible] yeah, that's right. That's what it was. [inaudible] yoga. Going back to the original conversation if the eyebrows makin

Dom:                00:40:35       also, can I, can I, I just wanna I just want to say something Mac. A bit ago you missed a really good pun. We talking about as guardians and you spent on working my ass guardians and it's like we're working my ass up. We could have worked. Uh, yeah, I felt pretty good about that. Back to you Charlie.

Charlie:            00:40:53       All right, so, uh, there, I mean, there's a lot of good stuff coming out. I'm, I'm, I'm curious to see where they go with the, you know, new characters coming out in the future. I don't know how they're gonna release yo-yo. I'm curious. Hopefully it's not a blitz and it, hopefully it's campaign. I would assume you can't unless it's broken. Yeah. But I wouldn't, I wouldn't be surprised if, um, you know, if you, if that theory of having, um, uh, Cyclops being released, I, I wouldn't be surprised if they say all NG humans will be the next way to do that because right now there are before that you can get, um, but I don't know. We'll see. We'll see how it goes. Most people will have ms Marvel and quake already at seven stars anyway. But yeah, unless you're a new player either way. Uh, all right. So continuing on, we'll go with our love it and hate it segment, which we complain about one thing and, uh, praise one thing, although I had that backwards. But the, uh, you know, you get, you know, we're talking about, um, and so, uh, we always talk about what we love and hate about the game. So we leave it up to our guests to talk about the thing that they love and hate about the game. So, Mac, what do you love about the game?

MysticMac:          00:41:54       Uh, man right now we haven't really spoke on it much, but since I left COBOL and I came to start a mountain Alliance, um, and then that transformed into joining in you kind of leading into you into a different direction. Um, really, really. Yeah, let's talk about that. I'm really loving the community, uh, building up community, shaping MCU to be a better cluster overall. Um, you know, with the help of all of the people that have been helping me obviously. So when I left football, I was kind of a on a downswing in the game and then when I started mining Alliance and I got into MCU and started helping the people there, um, I started really, you know, enjoying the game a lot more again, just because of the community that I'm in and building this community up, uh, to be better than it's been in the past. So I'm really loving that right now. Um, that bash, you can vouch and say, we're having a lot of fun in the Mac mansion right now. So

Charlie:            00:42:57       we are having a lot of fun. I'm actually hilariously amazing. For those who don't know or didn't listen to a, about a couple of episodes go, go. When we talked about what happened at the MCU, this whole thing came about as kind of like a kind of a whim almost, I would say. Cause a, it ended up being a, I know that hydro was recruiting or something like that. And I talked to you about Mack, about, um, you know, if you ever need a place to, you know, call home, uh, and you're like, Oh no, I start my own, but if you ever want to come over here, let me know. And then like later I was like, Oh, keep that in the back of my head. And then like a week later I was like, Hey, you still recruiting on my lead, come do that. And then we started talking about bringing high drover and kind of like just doing a whole thing with it, just leaving an off the cluster.

Charlie:            00:43:44       And then for some reason he was like, Hey, well what if I come over to the MCU and help lead it and make it a thing. So, and then that's kinda started this whole, um, thing, a chain reaction of that all happening through. And I'm, I was very surprised at the leadership in the MCU was actually on board with it. And I'm actually really glad that they went with it because I feel like the community aspect of the, uh, the discourse server and just the, all the cluster of alliances and having everybody in the one discord server and I was kind of against it having everyone in discord server just for shits and giggles. Um, but uh, I really think that that was the right call and the right thing to do. Um, just because everyone's under one roof and everything is um, you know, it's all the discussions are happening there and um, you know, it's also less notifications to have to worry about and brings

MysticMac:          00:44:31       a, it brings a like a family atmosphere to the game. Cause if everybody's having different discords then really the only thing you're sharing is the name, the MCU name. Not really, I mean before and nobody was really even having conversation in the main discord. So bringing everybody under one roof kind of brought a family atmosphere, brought everybody working together. Um, and kind of how I got into this was I was talking to your buddy a Nome. No, what's his name? I'm saying no, what I'm saying. Um, and he was telling me about, you know, MCU was having a hard time recruiting their, some of their higher alliances were disbanding and this and that. And I kinda thought, you know, I have some notoriety. I'm coming from Qubole, maybe I can pump some life into this, uh, into this cluster. So I said, Hey, why don't you ask the, the leaders what he thought about, you know, me coming over and helping out.

MysticMac:          00:45:26       So, um, I didn't really want to come in and be like a big dictator and start making a bunch of demands or anything like that. Um, I've always put things to a vote or, you know, we were thinking about changing the name, so we put it to a vote. People voted, keep the name MCU. Um, so really I just came into kinda just use my experience from being in Qubole. And before that I was in pants with Hawk. And then I use that experience to, you know, kinda shape MCU and push them towards a direction of being one of the best clusters in the game. And so far, you know, think things are trending upwards. We're having, you know, an overflow of recruits, alliances are performing better. Um, you know, so if you're listening you need a, you need a breath of fresh air, come on down to MCU, see what we got going on. Um, the magnetic,

Dom:                00:46:22       that's a quick second to get a big shot to uh, my cluster MCU Legion and we are now in the top one to 3% in a war

Charlie:            00:46:29       and see all the alliances are improving. So yeah, it's, it's been, it's definitely the, um, the air has been more uh, friendlier and less less um, combative I found on the discord and it just makes it, you know, it's definitely breathe the fresh, uh, fresh air into it. Breathing fresh air and [inaudible].

Dom:                00:46:52       Yeah, I'll be honest, I, I don't usually hang out the general chat. I usually just hang in like my Alliance chat, just cause I make closer with all those dudes. Um, not that I don't want to, I just like the, my time being so crazy at work, I'll just pop in there really easily. I'm, I've, I've, I'm lucky, I'm sure. Like, I never had to feel any of that, like combativeness but I mean that exists in any video game that has to do with like a multiplayer aspect. I do just want to say I, I'm a big fan of, uh, my Legion. They, the, I came in there at 500 TCP and they just let me come in and I'm now at 2.2 mostly because of them, like, realistically, like they would just be like, Oh, just hit that. Uh, uh, don't worry about anything else. And like now I'm clearing whole lanes, you know what I mean? Big shout out to our leader Ronan. Uh, road. Yeah. He's a good, he's a good dude. I've talked to him a little bit. Yeah. And went like all our word generals and Ray generals and stuff. Super dope. Um, I'm very happy to be there. Happy to have you too, dude. Uh, I'm big fan ever since you came on that one. It's so funny when you came through and they, Oh man, we got this like Kabbalah, dude, this is so cool.

MysticMac:          00:48:06       From a speaking up, you just like, Hey, I want to do the podcast. Uh, you know, if you ever want to have me on, let me know. It's kinda like I just enjoy helping people and building things and building things up. It brings another aspect to this game that I'm so passionate about. So I mean, I've had a ton of fun. I'm still having a ton of fun, having more fun each week with, with the Mac mansion and you know, a lot of big things are happening behind the scenes. So I'm pretty excited about the future. We have a few trolls in our

Dom:                00:48:39       and our, uh, Hawaiians. That's hilarious. Of course. Uh, with all that being said though, what is, what is the thing you hate currently in the game? Yeah.

MysticMac:          00:48:49       Um, I think the, the biggest, the biggest problem I have with the game is just the price of things in this game. Man. I mean, it's incredible to think about what they've, what value they put on certain things in this game. Um, it's frustrating to me, you know, I'm spending way too much money on this game when I could be spending it on other things. Um, I mean, one of the reasons I left COBOL was to stop spending so much and yet here I am still spending, still spending a good amount. I mean,

Dom:                00:49:23       probably not as much to to be in the top, top.

MysticMac:          00:49:27       Yeah. And it's not as much. I mean, before I was having to buy every more offer, like you had to, yeah, it was pretty much an expectation, a mandatory expectation. But now I don't really have to, but I have been because we've been having such close awards, it's come down to the last attack. So, uh, I've been taking one for the team and buying that extra attack. But I mean, just the price of these offers and the value they put in this game is just, it's kind of disgusting.

Dom:                00:49:56       Weird. It's very UN, we say this a lot is that it's a very unbalanced ecosystem. Right. And I think the argument's always been like, Oh, well if they don't make these offer, if they make this offer cheaper is the, the whales, the whales are gonna have an even easier time. But yo, it doesn't matter what price they put on these offers, the whales are gonna buy it anyway. Yeah. So like if they're cheaper, it'll still, there's no lose in things being cheaper. It's not like the wheels are going to look at it and be like, well now I'll buy everything. They were already buying everything.

MysticMac:          00:50:25       Yeah. I can tell you people in the higher ups in cabal, they, they buy every single offer. It doesn't matter what the price is. I mean, yeah, they're buying everything. So I mean, unless it's like a night nurse offer or something, but anything that has any kind of value to them value right there by him. Right.

Dom:                00:50:42       There is the one day I did a calculation like live, I think it came up like $5,600.

Charlie:            00:50:49       No, no, no. Six six to $650 or $660 was what it was for that day. Jesus. I was totally exaggerating that. I was definitely feeding the claims on that one. Definitely 600 bucks or something like that for the daily offer, like if he bought all the offers right now it would be $600 you'd be like, Oh my goodness, that wasn't like PowerCore offers to, no,

MysticMac:          00:51:09       that's crazy. It's insane. It's just

Dom:                00:51:13       and like, and the thing is if you want to be competitive, you have to buy that shit.

MysticMac:          00:51:17       Yeah, definitely. I mean I, I've spent an absurd amount of money in my roster [inaudible] it's close to being top 100 but it's, it wouldn't be enough for cabal. I mean I was in cabal, but I was the lowest CP member in there and you know, like comparatively you were mainly of your, of the cabal and I'd spend like, it's almost like they're preying on this game, like praise on people who like to gamble or who have impulse addiction because I can tell you from, you know, few years ago I was the gambling big time gambler in this game. It just like feeds that itch man.

Dom:                00:51:58       It's crazy. Especially these, the orbs are essentially loop boxes. They are. And it is, and this is the conversation currently is our loop boxes ethical and legal in a video game because if you pay money for something and you get a chance of winning something that is gambling. Right. And that's what this conversation is happening all over the country in regards to loop boxes, a video games. Um, and I'd be curious if there wasn't any legislation that came about it, how drastic this game would change. Can you imagine? Yeah, that'd be crazy.

Charlie:            00:52:28       I mean I, I would, I would hope that it would in the event of just like making it either fair or even if it's just disclaimers or making it, um, even if, if you were to give like parental controls, like if they force people to have parental controls, disable it or have it enabled out the Gates. That way you can the password to Mallory. Yeah, exactly. Cause like don't let me do this, you know, that kind of thing. Can I get the ghost rider offers? I saved, I saved up my copies for the week. Cause the three-star ghost writer for $15. Yeah, true. How many double cheeseburgers is that dumb?

Dom:                00:53:06       That's $50. That's $50. I would just, Oh, can I go on it? Can I get it really quick tangent really quick. Really fast. Have y'all ever had a phileo fish from McDonald's? Oh yeah, I haven't and I was getting my haircut today. Fresh cut. Big shout out to no club barbershop. My boy Garrett, uh, we are talking about the folio fish and I never had and there's a McDonald's right next to the barbershop. After the barbershop I went over and had to be a folio fish. Yo uh, first off though, never again will I buy that sandwich cause it's not a dollar double cheeseburger. It's a $5 McDonald's sandwich. Never again. But so that's a, when the $50, that's five, not some, sorry, that's 10. 10. I'm tired with it's Ted FlowJo fishes for that gross rider offer.

Charlie:            00:53:51       And uh, so that's some your mind blown 10 times. Yeah. Would that play a fish?

Dom:                00:53:57       I could add those Ted flee of fishes for one, three star ghost writer.

Charlie:            00:54:02       Yeah. And then you would've been, you know, probably sick that many. You would have been sick and then much heavier too. Yeah, exactly. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. So. Awesome. Uh, all right. So the next step is our red stars and what we pulled this week. Um, I personally have not pulled anything cause I'm saving all my red stars for, um, blackballed because he's going to be insane.

Dom:                00:54:26       Love saving red stars. I love, I love what you send me a screenshot and it's like 30

Charlie:            00:54:33       here. Here's the thing of like, so I've been saving red stars and I've also been saving, uh, orange, uh, gear fragments from the raids and whatnot. So in the event that they, Oh, cause I mean I'm, I'm at the point now where like I'm not gear, I'm not [inaudible] anybody right now. So it's like why would I open them just to have the help? Uh, I am, I am upwards of 70 orange or, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, cause if they, uh, I don't know, but like if it, if it's, um, if they have the [inaudible] in the instance of where they add like the Mike or the mini uniques to those orbs, like that's what I'm waiting for for tier 14. So I don't know if, but um, it really just comes down to like, once you get used to the red dot, uh, you just ignore it and it just becomes there. But I'm not one of those, I'm not one of those people who have like 20,000 emails on the answer to my email app or on my phone. So I'm on my phone. I have to take care of all the red dots. But in the game, it's not a problem for me. But, um, yeah. So, uh, Don, what'd you pull this week? You pull anything?

Dom:                00:55:41       I did a, I honestly forgot I'm looking. I know I did.

Charlie:            00:55:45       Well, while you're looking, I will say I finally a seven start a captain Marvel, so I'm excited about that. I was seven. No, no, no, no, no. Seven, seven. Started like I'm a Stoli max. No. Yeah, yeah. No, that's seven red star. My God, she's only a four for me.

Dom:                00:56:03       Yeah, me too. I just pulled a four or something. I don't remember. It was, it might've been, it might've been that name or actually, funny enough.

Charlie:            00:56:11       Super good. I have all my fantastic for it. Four red stars. So I'm very excited about that. Well, the exception of a visible woman, she's at three. She's, she'll be my next, uh, by, um, uh, you know, in,

Dom:                00:56:26       um, especially since I was talking to, um, Jill, um, I think that's her name.

MysticMac:          00:56:34       That's the great thing about, of our law. Our Alliance. We have not, I'm not trying to say anything about women here, but we have like four girls in our Alliance. You know, the verse, I think girls that exist in any way or any other lines. Exactly. I think girls are definitely a midnight, a minority in this game. It feels like anyways, all a hundred percent, especially in the competitive realm. Um, and these girls we have in our lions through their, their BS. There's outperforming, I mean, you seven and war. I'm, I'm super impressed with these girls. I'm super happy they're in the airlines. I like I said

Dom:                00:57:10       mistaken, I got four risks. Are mr sinister? Oh that's good. Yeah. The new recruit, we just got a this past week, Mackenzie has just been killing it. She's like, can you imagine the ratio of men to women in this game is, I mean it's video gaming in general. Uh, but definitely cause we have to remember this. This is a very niche game, right? Yeah. Yeah. Uh, no, that's wild. Having diversity obviously is cool. Especially when you think about the, I'm curious actually what the demographics are of this game. I can only imagine.

MysticMac:          00:57:40       I haven't come across a lot of highly competitive girls in this game. I'm probably less than 20 that I know of. But I mean sometimes people have the game. Do y'all know how long have I played this game or how many people have even called? I think I've seen something. I started like a free to play account just cause I was bored the other day. I seen something that's was like 2.8 million or two point something million. Million people play this game. They at least have an account. I don't know how many actually play it, but geez. Yeah, something crazy like that. So as far as women go in the competitive realm, there's not a whole lot. Um, especially, well I can't say that for sure because some people have those weird names where you don't know if it's a girl or a guy unless you talk to him obviously. But yeah, super happy with the, we

Dom:                00:58:30       have to acknowledge the fact that like our community and that's not just moral Strikeforce. I mean like gaming in general is often not the most like welcoming. It is like the gaming is very toxic and I'm sure it's probably not easy if you're a woman to sit behind the keyboard and hear like a much like Dick talk the chat all day and be like, Oh well I'm actually a woman. You know what I mean? Like saying you want to hear, it's hard. It's hard to, I'm sure to always acknowledge that you're even a woman in it. Cause then you also could probably get the DMS. Oh God, I can only imagine how you let gamer girl, you know what I mean? Like yeah, it's dope that we definitely have a uh, women in the Alliance. Cause I can only imagine that there's probably not much in this game in general. So yeah, the diversity, you know, Mack, what'd you pull for? Red

MysticMac:          00:59:21       stars as weak. Could you point anything noteworthy or I could go on for forever on this topic. Um, so let me, let me preface this by saying pass to, I'm going to go back a little bit farther than a week. The past two or three weeks I've probably pulled, well since, uh, Heimdall came out in the Redstone stores, I probably pulled over a hundred red star orbs, probably closer to 200.

Dom:                00:59:46       Oh my God, I'm so excited to hear how bad they was. [inaudible]

MysticMac:          00:59:49       so, um, probably upwards of 200 Redstar orbs cause I bought a shit ton of offers. Uh, and I had some saved up. So, um, I did pull a seven red star, Amos assaulter. I was, I remember seeing that. That's right. Yeah. Um, I only haven't met six gold star right now. So I'm farming him like crazy. He's pretty, he's pretty good on the aim team. Um, and then I pulled a four red star Heimdall. Um, so me, I can't save anything. Like I'll try to save for like a day or two and then they just eat that. Me, the gambler inside of me just says, I need to pull these orbs. I might win something. I might get something good

Dom:                01:00:33       dude, 100%. I'm honestly, I'm, I, it's because of shit like this. I know that if I actually gambled, I'd be the addictive. I had to have to call the hotline, you know what I mean? I, I can't, I can't do it. It's so hard for me to, to not just want to like open shit.

MysticMac:          01:00:49       So of the two of the 200 red star orbs, give or take 200, I got the four red star Heindel maybe like 30 and 30, 40, somewhere around there. So, and then I just kept pulling, pulling, trying to get anything. Um, so from about 150 on to zero, I got a four red star. Shocker. And that was about it. Um, the rest were dupes. I opened several elite force dupes opened in elite five, which I should have shit saved for black bowl, but I didn't do, um, so yeah, I mean 200 orbs. I got seven red star Amos soldier. I know some people have opened thousands of orbs over like casino. It doesn't have seven red star at all. So not too bad considering I did get a seven red star. But for the money spent it's not really worth it. Eh?

Dom:                01:01:45       No it's not. I mean you would really think there's like a Fox net like Fox next to like a CEO board that's like, all right. Just someone to wire in the code for just casino to get him this seven red cause his videos are killing us. Yeah.

MysticMac:          01:02:00       I mean I have four, seven red stores now, but due to the money spent on these freaking red star offers, definitely not worth it. Yeah. But I did get all my sinister six to four sr lease all my ads, guardians or at least for red star. Um, I think I only have three characters under four red star right now. So that's another reason I shouldn't be pulling red star or because I have everyone.

Charlie:            01:02:30       Yeah. And it's really, really, yeah. It's only for like those, when the new characters come out where you can do that. I'm pretty much in the same boat where I'm, I, I think I only have one character's at two red stars, which is I think is, um, uh, well it's Heimdall cause he just came out and I didn't pull, I didn't have any Aaron G luck at all. And a night nurse I think is also a two red stars, but that's it. So that's why like I'm fine with just holding off because like, I know I have all these characters and it's not going to be, it's not going to behoove me whatsoever to do it cause there's definitely some, huh. Nice vocab. Oh yeah. So, uh, I, I, uh, I've done that in the past where I was like, ah, I've actually, it happened with an invisible woman.

Charlie:            01:03:12       I pulled, I pulled somewhere up a 90 regular Redstar origin, 14 elite fours and got zero red star for her. And that's all. I was like, you know what, I'm not doing this ever again. Yeah. So I will wait. Did you get anything good. I'll wait. Anything right now, I'm not pulling anything right now. I'm holding off until bark black comes out, so I'm perfectly fine waiting off. We'll actually, I'll probably pull some for SIF. I'll probably, I'll probably pull about 10 or so for SIF and, or if she gets two, four red stars, that's when I stop. Cause then I'm like, okay, it's good now that's like the, it's kinda like the baseline for me. It's like if I get that up I'll, I'll do that. Yeah. But other than that, I'm just chilling and waiting. I don't know. I don't mind. She'll know.

MysticMac:          01:03:52       The only good thing about me opening all those orbs was I got some six Redstar elite credits. Uh, well I can convert them and get any character. I want the four red stars. So I know for a fact I'm at least going to get black belt for it. Star trail, two of those. So you know, I could get SIF to four red star. So that's the only good thing about it. But other than that hasn't been too treading.

Charlie:            01:04:19       Yeah. I mean I know that, uh, real quick in terms of red stars and a character types, it helps more obviously for damaged dealers. Right. And health and healers health is good too. So if you're a tank you're just going to get a butt ton of health and more red stars you have. Yeah. And Arbor and Oscar and stuff like that. It's helpful elsewhere too. Like some, some healers will, depending on the healer, like a lot of the healers are saying like heal for 10% of this character's max health or something like that. So if you have, you know, somebody who's got a hundred K health, your healing for 10 K a, you know, a cliff plus whatever the multiplier is.

MysticMac:          01:04:55       Invisible woman gives a barrier 40% per her L's. So if you have high, you want high red stars on invisible woman cause he's going to get 40% barrier of air max out. That's good to know. So there's some characters like that. I mean the only, Oh that's

Charlie:            01:05:12       weird. Cause if they get capped at 30% too, which is strange, but yeah, but either way it's, it's still, um, yeah, it's definitely the red stars helped with stats and all sorts of, it's not just necessarily a numbers game. Like when you see a big number like Ooh, pretty, it's like, you know, 70, 80K or whatever. Like I've been a, I, I finally finished up my Falcon to seven stars cause I haven't met six red stars. And right now he's my highest character at 88 K. but I've been, um, I've been debating whether or not I want to finish out his, his kid to get his special in his basic because, uh, it would just help so much and use seven cause that's what I use him the most. And especially his basic, just adding another 30% to his basic, which I think will help out a lot.

Charlie:            01:05:53       Cause you know, that that tends to be the case, especially since you, if they have any sort of buff whatsoever, he automatically attacks again, which I think is, is not to be, um, under, uh, undermined I guess. But, uh, either way. Uh, yeah. So, uh, continuing on with the war results, I know that we're kind of getting over on our time here, but, uh, I wanna talk a little bit about some craziness that has happened in, uh, the Mac mansion as of this past, um, this past week as it's been this week, right? Is when we had a crazy close Wars, like we've, we've done really well. Um, and I was kind of a little intimidated when I first joined up a couple of weeks ago because like you guys like were like full clearing, like within, you know, like 12 hours or some craziness like that. I was like, Oh my God, this is nuts. Like, but then again, it was like, you know, those teams are, we were still in like silver, um, three and then we moved up to gold one and I think we're in gold to now or about to hit gold too.

MysticMac:          01:06:54       We're actually creeping towards gold three now.

Charlie:            01:06:56       Nice. Um, so I'm, I was, I was like really like, Oh God, now I have to perform. Now I've been working on, you know, I had been putting off my, um, my rate, my wore off fence teams to work on my raid teams and now I am now that my U 17 is good to go and I can, you know, easily clear like 30 million, uh, damage if I need be. Um, and I'm actually happy that we've, we've been creeping along and almost hitting 60% without trying, which I'm pretty happy about. Um, I'm sure you're probably happy about that also. Um, I mean, are we talking to me on that one? Uh, I thought you were, I thought you said something.

MysticMac:          01:07:35       Yeah, I mean, I'm war's been crazy this week actually at the end, towards the end of last week is when it started getting really crazy. Um, I'm definitely a war focused person. Uh, I'm, I'm pretty laid back leader. But if you, if you Slack in war or you're, you're not performing well in war, that's when I start to get a little bit strict because I have certain expectations and I have a, um, a focus where I want the Alliance to go raids. I'm a little bit more relaxed, but we naturally hit, you know, like you said, almost 60%, you seven every day naturally. And when we do push for you seven, which is 30 or three times a week, we hit 60% easy. So, um, Warrior's where, where my focus is, it's my favorite game mode. What I, what I enjoy the most. So, um, yeah, I mean Ward's been crazy. I've been loving every second of it. I liked the competitive wards. That's another reason I kind of wanted to leave cabals cause we was only having competitive Wars like once every two weeks with pants, fog and even those weren't really competitive. So

Charlie:            01:08:46       Savage, Savage and it has a Hawk. Yeah. And so like we had some crazy close Wars. Like today, the war that we won this afternoon, it came down to literally the, who could finish off the last two teams first. And it came down to us finishing cause they failed two attacks on our, um, on our, um, our defenses that we had.

MysticMac:          01:09:08       So the energy, the energy drops and it's who can finish these last two teams for. So it was crazy. A lot of fun. It would have been a heartbreaker. The thing I loved about this war is we were, we started off slow. We were losing the whole time. I had a terrible war. I lost like three attacks at the beginning facing these 400 K marauders for in a cake. It was nuts. I was just so frustrated, threw my phone down, went to sleep, woke up, and then we were, we were close. Um, and then at my job I can't really have my phone at all. So I was only able to get my attacks in at break and then when I went back, that's when the last energy dropped and I wasn't able to be there. But you know, it was a good surprise coming back and us getting a win. But yeah, man, it's been crazy all I'm been loving every second of it.

Charlie:            01:09:58       Yeah, there was, there was one team that we came up against that actually casinos Alliance lost against as well. Um, it was, it kind of threw me for a loop. So, like when we started, when we started attacking these teams and all in the flight decks, we're all like pretty much basic like shield the default teams and whatnot. Um, but they were pure orphans for the entirety of the war. Like they're the highest teams they had or I think we're like 200K shield team in um, like armory or something like that. So we're like, do we, did we waste our teams this surely can't be the only teams that they have. And it was like that for the entire worth. Just like just 150 K like hand teams for the entire thing. And everybody was just like, that came down to just participation. So yeah,

MysticMac:          01:10:45       give a shout out to them cause they are the first person to beat us. We're like, yes, I started Mac mansion where I think I counted like 15 and one 13 and one something crazy like that. Uh, but they, they're TMC and mortals and we actually have 8 million CP on them. So their strategy is casinos Alliance actually beat them or strategy is they take Wars off, they pile up resources and then when they decide to, you know, push for a war, they all do max attacks. So they're buying all, all of them. This is the first time outside of cabal or pants of hog that I've seen, literally every person in the other Alliance by all four attacks and like he like mash said they went full on offense, um, credit to them. They didn't, they weren't losing a lot of attacks and they, they beat us. So yeah, shout out to them.

Charlie:            01:11:38       Yeah, props. And then that was, that was a, that was a mind fuck for sure. Because we're all like, do I do I use my F four on this? Do I break it up? Like I don't know what to do. Weird. Like what? Like what do you do? Do you break up? Like do you overkill it? And we ended up just saying like, you know, fuck it. We'll just overkill it. And that's what it is.

Dom:                01:11:55       Is there a limit to attacks in the war? How many times? 12 I haven't told her is what you can do yet. I've finally hit that limit for the first time this week. Nice. We full cleared on Monday, it was down to the wire and we end up getting the full clear. And even me, I threw everything I could.

Charlie:            01:12:13       Yeah. Sometimes, yeah. It feels nice to like to be, you know, contribute when you can. Like for me, like I'll buy, I'll buy two if not three attacks, um, when I get home from work just because like I know that I, I can't, you know, as an operator, I don't, I can't look at my phone. So it's like I only get, um, you know, I only get the times, like I'll have like, you know, half an hour at lunch, six hours into my day or after, you know, wrap at 12 hours. It's like, then I'll be able to look. So like I've been, I haven't been able to participate in more. Sometimes I can, but like, I'll have to take those times and just, you know, get my tax in when I can. So

MysticMac:          01:12:45       yes. That's great. Sorry, I'm throwing down the gauntlet here. I do want to say somewhere we're on Wars. Um, I'm a content creators. Know VASH is a content creator. We're in the same Alliance. We are a, I think three and O versus other content creators, uh, alliances. So I'm looking forward to that casino match up. We're insane. Uh, I'm trying to go for, no, we, we beat 'em worldwide louver Thor's Alliance. I don't know if you were with us then. Bash. Uh, I was, yeah, yeah, we'd be Woolworth doors. We'd just be ANR banana, which I guess technically isn't tubers Alliance, but it's in his alliances. And I forget who else. Maybe it was only then too, but either way. Don't down the gauntlet on ghetto casino. We're coming after him

Dom:                01:13:35       eventually. I've already beat him in the whale Wars, so anything.

MysticMac:          01:13:38       I beat him too. So.

Dom:                01:13:40       Oh, you were the way you were on wheels were them? Yes. Oh God. We're just lacking in world Wars. Dang Savage. Yeah.

Charlie:            01:13:51       Anyway, I'm, I'm, look, I've been, I've been really happy with, um, you know, moving over to the Mac mansion and having a good time. It's really has, um, uh, especially with Wars. And, and the rates and everything that it's just really kind of, um, reignited my love to play this game. So, um, thanks for having me back. I appreciate that. Um, uh, finally the last two segments are team advice, favor character. So I know you do Ross reviews as part of your Patrion page, so we can, we'll pull up, throw a plug for you there. But is there any team advice that you recommend as of right now or anything that, you know, the listeners just say like, Hey, what do I w you know, what do I work on? Or something like that. What do you recommend?

MysticMac:          01:14:28       Um, I'm like I said earlier, fantastic four. I'm, I've told my Alliance, I've told you guys, I've told somebody who just asked me a couple of hours ago, who should I work on? Fantastic forward. Get them up as high as you possibly can. Um, cause they're gonna they're, they're going to beat teams that they're gonna punch up a hundred K on teams. They're going to beat almost any team. Um, outside of fantastic four. I would really focus on either aim or, um, aim obviously because they have some play in you. Seven, they're good in blitz, they're good in war on offense or defense. And then, uh, I'm really loving as guardians right now. So one of those three, if you got two of them done, do the other one. But yeah, those teams are really, really looking good right now.

Charlie:            01:15:17       Awesome. Yeah. Um, I'm very happy to have worked on my fantastic four and they're sitting at a cool 268 K between, uh, the five of them. So I'm excited to see, I'm hoping they bring out some more fantastic four for raids. You know, I'm going to make something raid viable because, uh, that's the only thing cause I'm in a, a mystic bio lane and it's the only healer I have is, um, a mantis and it's not very, not a great option. So I hope that they, uh, do something for that. So anyway, uh, and then the last segment is our favorite character. So what do you, what's your favorite character in the game so far or right now? It doesn't have to be so far, but

MysticMac:          01:15:51       let me look. Who's your guys's favorite character in the game so far?

Charlie:            01:15:58       Uh, whew. That's a good question. I mean I'm loving Falcon, but I've also loved Falcons since it came out because you know, Falcon is just a beast cause I have him at six red, sorry. Like I said, he's my highest character. He's at 88 K from me right now. So he's um, he's great. So I love his, I love everything about him. His turned meter increase his abilities. Um, you know, the only thing I'm kind of bummed about is his, like the, if you get his passive maxed out, it just gives an extra 5% block, kind of lame. I hope they redo that though. Cause he's supposed to be like the tank of the group. He's not really a tank. He just, you know. Right. Not that great.

MysticMac:          01:16:34       I tried to armor, so I think right now, I think the last time I was on here I said Killmonger he's not my eyes tune anymore. Scarlet witches, my eyes that 102 [inaudible] dang. But right now I'm building up and my favorite character right now is, hello. I got her at 52 K five gold, four red. Uh, she's one piece from tier 13, and uh, I still need a T four on her special and probably here at passive. But yeah, I'm just loving her design the way she plays her

Speaker 6:          01:17:09       ability.

Charlie:            01:17:11       Um, the fact that you can use your new seven overall, just really love playing with it right now. Yeah, I'm thinking I'm going to be building her up. Um, once I get everybody at a level 65, tier 11, definitely she'll be my next one to work on. Um, and I'm definitely saving up more of my orange materials to, or you know, our edge mats for more T4, passives and whatever on the as guardians. I think they're going to be, I have currently hind bills is, is maxed out his passive right now. So for that defense, even though I'm in, uh, where I'm at in, in war, it doesn't really matter, but still, I think it's, it helps for [inaudible]. I think I'm in cargo bed, so random buffs, but whatever. Um, but yeah, man, I that's, there's a, there's as guardians man, they're tough to beat. So especially had them ranked up high enough. So anyway,

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