00:44.31 Dave I'm your host Dave and today I am joined by Leonard how's it going Leonard. 00:49.36 Leonard It's good Dave it's late and I'm tired and it's a Friday and I'm who ready to talk about some kaiju. 01:00.40 Dave Um, yeah I'm I'm ready to be done with the Pacific room the black. Ah. 01:06.50 Leonard Um I am as well I was I just wasn't going to say it. But yes I I too am am ready to be done with Pacific Room The black. 01:17.29 Dave It was a ride that just it turned into like the little did Disneyland thing where you get on and it just slowly realized oh this is like for a little kid because it's going real slow. 01:33.52 Leonard Except for when it isn't except for when it's that that the boat ride in Willy Wonka for like a split second and then it goes back to being at the small world. 01:34.90 Dave Um. 01:43.68 Dave Yeah, and that was the that was the weird jarringness between I think season one and season 2 so ah for anyone catching up on this. We are wrapping up episodes none of Pacific Rim ah the black season None and it's um, yeah, it's it's the finale. It's the big wrap up of all of all the little dangling threads tied. Oh so neatly into little bows that everyone loves and can get so much enjoyment out of that. 02:03.64 Leonard Yes. 02:22.16 Dave Feel like I'm selling it short it. It was serviceable like it was fine and I think I think that's the consensus we came to before we got to the the little home run stretch and yeah, so episode None is mind body soul. And this it catches us up with um the the our intrepid quadro three yeah to quad crew. Yeah. 02:49.38 Leonard Yes, it quad. Yeah Quad Now Quad crew 03:00.75 Dave It's the brothers Sister Ma boys back in the in the mix kind of and brina and loa. There's 5 of them. Ah, we just lost Shane. 03:11.70 Leonard Um, yes. 03:18.10 Leonard Um, yep. 03:19.91 Dave In in like the the most weirdly Heroic selfless sacrifice that a villain could just turn around and do um that that may have been the high point of the series. 03:35.86 Leonard Yeah, but ah, and once again hamstrung by the fact that this the show's pacing because none of these episodes are over half an hour long um they're like 22 like yeah like the. 03:48.15 Dave The like twenty twenty two minutes yeah 03:53.77 Leonard Final episodes like 26 minutes and I think that's like the longest episode of the series. Um, so you know you expect ah like Shane reappears and is now part of the story again and then immediately dies and I'm like oh okay, ah wow. Sure. 04:12.77 Dave Um, yeah, we got like vague commentary between may and spider on the kind of man shay at Shane like was but. 04:26.34 Leonard Yeah. 04:29.11 Dave You didn't really get to see any of it until just now so that you when you jam all the character building into like dialogue and not actually showing any of it. It's really not effective. Um I yeah. 04:37.87 Leonard Um, yep. Oh you mean like all the time annakin and Ob one went on adventures and established their really cool friendship which they talk about in an elevator Ride. You mean like that. 04:53.70 Dave Yeah, it's like that it's it's like that just the reverse to where you don't like yeah I just really, it didn't sell me on on Shane doing going out the way he did I just. 05:11.81 Leonard Um, yep. 05:12.64 Dave And when I see it? Um, but again that still was the that being said, it was the emotional big moment that really I don't even know where else they could have put that or you know with someone else. Um. Ideally, it would have been with um brina and whatever their father's name is because no one cares? Um, but it wasn't it's with Shane and may i. Then it takes the time for a spider like again could have been a way. He's fine like he he could have been had more to do. 06:04.34 Leonard Um, yep. 06:07.86 Dave And and then he just like rides off into the sunset and that's it Nope No, he's gone He pieces out on like a little a tiny motorcycle that comes out of the back of the blue bogan and it's it's it's great. He just gets on his little mad Ma Motor scooter and like. 06:09.80 Leonard Um, yeah, he's just gone. 06:17.66 Leonard Um, yep. 06:25.25 Dave Pieces out. 06:25.73 Leonard Yeah, like he yeah, he's got. He's gotten the Kira bike. He's gotten. He's got the he's got the Akira bike and he offers the take me with him and ah you know they do a real you know short fake out where the wheel we get a close up of the. 06:29.72 Dave Yeah. 06:45.23 Leonard Rear wheel squealing and him peeling off and obviously she's not on because you know she's grown attached to these children who make terrible decisions constantly? Um, ah yeah, Brianna's ah you know. Having a real rough time because you know she's still connected to the sisterhood sisters of the Kaiju hive mind and you know they they kind of want her back. So that's not great. Um. 07:16.48 Dave No, she's just stuck like forever fighting against the the hive mind pulling her back in like she's not severed. The connection is not severed. They're just knocking on the door Real real hard. 07:23.28 Leonard Yeah, yep, yeah, which then you know immediately led to me. Oh so did chain ultimately just kind of die for nothing because this seems like a horrible existence. This seems. 07:36.72 Dave Yeah. 07:43.16 Leonard Actually you know worse than what was going on with her before to be perfectly. Honest. 07:50.58 Dave Yeah I mean she's she's stuck in like a safe space a perpetual memory that she's able to keep safe. Um from the horrible mind erosion of the kayju hive blood in her body and and. She's been that way for years and it's just how it is that the status quote's not great, but um, now she's she's free to see her kids of and all the and catch up on all the good times that she missed. 08:11.86 Leonard Um, yep. 08:29.23 Dave And didn't get utterly blamed for leaving them in the lurch which was not her fault. She got kidnapped by a strange cult that murders dudes and turns any women into. 08:35.26 Leonard Um, nope. 08:47.30 Dave Pawns for the hive mind to bring about the apocalypse I think. 08:52.70 Leonard And they they're not even very clear about that. They just you know they just they're just like oh man we need that Kaiju Messiah and then we'll do yeah it is literally like ah get kaju messiah blank and Prophet. 08:55.88 Dave Um, no, they want icore. 09:11.69 Leonard Question mark. 09:14.81 Dave Maybe um, all the sisters are like expendable though. So I don't yeah I don't I don't know what their game plan is um, we don't we don't know what Shane's game plan was he didn't have much of one. He just. 09:20.20 Leonard Yeah. 09:33.76 Dave Put his cards on the table and didn't win. 09:34.29 Leonard Yeah, his gain plan was I want a jaeger and then he he didn't get no oh yeah, Shane also left ah my ah ah like a data key or data chip or us. 09:39.41 Dave D did not get it. 09:50.46 Dave Yeah. 09:52.44 Leonard Be whatever that apparently has all of her real information on it which is a weird thing to like set up because that doesn't actually pay off in any way. 10:03.53 Dave No I thought she was going to like Jack into it and then like oh I gain back my teenage years of of the part of when I wasn't an assassin but no, no. 10:11.10 Leonard Um, yeah, yeah, my real memories of ah, right? but no. 10:22.91 Dave Just in your pocket I think. 10:23.20 Leonard Ah, yeah, it is ah Haley's obviously ah hey we got to go get boy boy come on that girl is it. She's literally boy crazy. Um. Ah, to which I'm like man that seems like a really bad idea your mom's having a real tough time. She's got a hive mind trying to break back ah into and subsume her personality. You want to move her closer to ah to so the central point of that. Tyler's not having it. He just wants to go obviously I don't even remember if my has any objection whatsoever. 11:07.48 Dave No, she's still siding more with Haley because she's pissed off at um Tyler that everyone is mad at him because he he just he literally sacrificed boy for the there. the 3 the fake 11:13.78 Leonard Um, all right? um because he made the tough. He made the tough decisions. 11:26.75 Dave Um, guarantee that they could get out of the sisters. Um, zone. 11:30.14 Leonard Yeah, yeah, yeah, ah, but everyone agrees including Brianna for whatever reason once again seems like a really bad idea. Um, so they of course sneak in on foot because. And why this. 11:51.86 Dave To be sneaky. 11:55.30 Leonard I guess I guess a jaeger isn't really like good for for like a break into a fortress and and snatch a child situation. So um. Yeah, they do the sisters are doing weird stuff with human skulls. Apparently one of their tenants is to tread the the skull the like the the corpses of their enemies so they pa vote a road with human skulls that they carefully lay out that. Question Mark daily because it yeah it is ah my starts freaking out. Yeah, exactly. 12:34.34 Dave Yeah I think it's daily. That's a lot of enemies they have you have you completed the skull road. Well we've read about two meters of tave's skull so far we're going to need some more enemies we've killed the ball. 12:53.50 Leonard Yep, yeah, it's real weird. Um Mys like having a panic attack which is the first ah None time this is ever come up. 13:02.20 Dave Um, yeah I don't know where that it's not um I don't know why because she just so it's there's it's not telegraph. There's nothing where she's been questioning herself. 13:09.10 Leonard Yeah. 13:21.74 Dave Um, she she mentions that yes, she's been this way and they lost a lot of their crew and so there's you know some sort of Post-traumatic stress disorder but they've already been dealing with the sisters. So I don't. I Don't know it seems out of character. 13:44.64 Leonard It's very out of character and you know they they they explain it later on and it's not particularly satisfying. It's it's hey the sisters rated bogan a couple of times and she's had conflicts with them and ah. The implications that like the sisters are so horrific and and their methods so horrible that it it created this once again this post-traumatic stress issue with her regarding him. But once again it this look. The effects of it come out of nowhere. Um, which is wild. Um. 14:23.25 Dave Yeah, it's just to make her not effective for a moment like to to to tampen her down is my best guess. 14:26.49 Leonard Um, yeah, yeah, um, yeah, ah Brianna ah, ah, tells them um to wait. she'll she'll ah yeah 14:42.40 Dave So I got this. 14:46.11 Leonard Um I can get rid of the the was it a ripper is that what the yeah, there's a ripper out guarding him and there's a sister the one that was paving the road going back into the fortress which is located in like a. 14:47.86 Dave Yeah, the rippers are the hybrid. The dog hybrid kajus. 15:04.45 Leonard Fossilized Kaju skull and and the side of a mountain. Um, ah and once again I'm just like man this seems like a really bad idea. This seems like a really bad idea that you're in such close proximity to these these people that use. Telepathy mess with your mind and she does manage to to convince the ripper to go into its little pin and then she immediately she she almost immediately is um. But reconnected to the hive mind and gives away the game. 15:45.36 Dave Um, yeah, it's like she can sit in the ceremony for a couple seconds and then she's like oh Nope she's back in the trance. Yeah. 15:56.26 Leonard Yep, and the the leader instantly knows what's going on and what they're trying to do which is get to get boy boy has been ah has been getting a transfusion this entire time. Which I think is really weird because when they first started the the ceremony I thought they just poured the the bowl of of Kaiju Hybrid blood like directly on his tick wound and I thought that was going to be it. But no, they actually had to set it down and. Ah hook a little ivy up to him to do blood transfusion. 16:36.85 Dave Um, yeah, it's it's a weird but they're the they're transfusing him and um, thankfully even though Brina Flipped back over to the sister side. Um, ah. May is there too. She knocked out the skull sister and took her robes and a little mask. 16:56.44 Leonard Um, yeah. 17:02.10 Leonard Yeah, ah, which is weird because ah Brina also indicated that hey you shouldn't come in because because the the leader will sense you but no, apparently not because once again may just. Duck in put on the disguise and got it done. Um, the leader off the yep, the leader also sends brina to kill. Ah, ah Haley and Tyler ah, which is um, real. Ah, you know. 17:23.79 Dave Yeah. 17:40.16 Leonard Obvious it is a power move. You know you've introduced the you've introduced this threat now that you're the one that has to take care of it. Blah blah blah um, there is a really cool Kaiju like water park pit in this place. 17:41.90 Dave It's a power move. You know. 17:59.39 Leonard Like that was like the most interesting thing about I was like oh I wasn't expecting like ah you know like a little kitty pool area for yep. Um, ah ah. 18:05.92 Dave Little know it's a it's the gator pit the Kaiju Gator pit 18:18.76 Leonard Ah, yeah, and that's where ah Brina confronts. Ah Haley because she's already captured Tyler off screen and has a knife in his ribs and tells her to jump into the Kaiju pool which in and of itself is also a power move. And to um, you know, prove her point begin slowly stabbing her son in the kidneys um Haley um, did did we see my give haley a gun has Haley always had a gun where did this. 18:50.67 Dave Um, she just had a gun I mean obviously it's my gun and they worked this out where my just like hey here have this gun. 18:54.40 Leonard Okay I. 19:01.82 Leonard Okay, I'm not crazy that I because I was like did I just miss a part or my gave Haley her gun. But no, she she has it? Yep yep. 19:12.70 Dave I'm just guessing she just had it. It just has the gun and she's totally willing to shoot her mom in the face. 19:19.31 Leonard Um, which I'm really shocked. Ah, you know she does the hull you can find it you can You can you can power? Yes, yes, power of love. 19:23.90 Dave Yeah, you're stronger than this mother and then she's like wait. No because you're definitely stabbing my brother. 19:32.28 Leonard Right? Um, and once again I'm just like men you know in any other circumstances. She probably would have staed finished the job on Tyler when the gun came out ah but she doesn't she she they they. Once again, pull her out with the power of love she apologizes. She's very upset about um, you know the kidney stabbing um and ah, ah, meanwhile ah during the ceremony. Ah might just somehow. Manages to so grab boy with literally no one in a group of what has to be None people in a room like I get it. They're doing a prayer you're doing a ceremony most of them are looking down at the ground but the the leader. Looks up for like a split second and then looks get get yep. 20:27.40 Dave The highest The high sister is like doing something with her hands and looks up and then looks back down and boy gone just like did you were right over him. She was like right next to him. 20:40.50 Leonard She was. She was literally right next to ah. 20:44.99 Dave For being all fidgety Mine is pretty good. 20:47.52 Leonard Right? And once again, she the what's again this whole hey you can't get go near her or still since you think saying seems like nonsense so I don't know what that was all about. 21:06.50 Dave That's because she had the mask of the sister equipped. 21:07.36 Leonard Yeah, right, It's that's yeah, yeah, ah yeah, so you know the the crew make their Escape Mys run that with Boy Brina. Ah. 21:10.97 Dave Um I don't know it was weird. 21:26.66 Leonard Ah, get it finally gets her moment. Um, ah she says go on I'll slow down the rippers so they won't ripper you she then does cool matrix stuff. Ah ah and and gets bodyed. Ah. Almost immediately but she does do she manages to kill. Actually yeah, and honestly the first one I actually actually like that that first kill where she pretends to do the oh I'm so weak I've passed out thing and then immediately just shoots it in. 21:46.58 Dave She kills a gripper. 22:03.74 Leonard Repeatedly shoots it in the brain and I'm like all right, that's pretty okay I'm not mad at that. Um, but now she gets chomped in the in the abdomen by a ripper before killing it with a knife and she's not doing well but she makes it out. Tyler and Haley Grabber carrier off and and they make their escape and ah oh no, the high priestes that looks like a big looks like a big fool and that's oh yes. And um, they comment they're like why aren't they coming coming after us and and I think it oh Rena says it's because they they fully believe that they've actually turned boy now because that was what the ritual was to do. It was to. Erase all of his memories of his time with Haley and Tyler and and the crew so he could fulfill his role as the Kaiju Messiah that's the end of that episode. 23:11.75 Dave Yeah, well that brings us to episode 6 the twilight run. 23:19.51 Leonard Yep. 23:21.56 Dave Yeah, this um, it's like ah it's almost a cold open they they they've been going and going and they get to the Sydney base like even though. 23:36.71 Leonard Yes. 23:40.95 Dave Sisters have been hot on their heels but they they just outpaced them. Um and they they get to the base and ah they meet with the general or I don't remember the guy's rank commander commandant. Maybe. 23:56.42 Leonard Commander he. 24:00.26 Dave Um, they meet with the dude and he's so happy to see them and he's happy to see Brina and then like a humvee pulls up and the the Travis the dad um jumps out and he looks. Like es put on a little weight. Ah, and yeah, yeah, yeah, that's messed up. Um, and. 24:22.69 Leonard Yeah, he yes he looks like he's been living comfortably this entire time which I was like yeah. 24:37.91 Dave Ahrina is just like oh you know don't don't don't let me go I hear a weird beeping and everyone's like don't ignore the beeping There's no beeping. She's like okay and then it like crash. Cuts us out of that scene and we see that they just have Brena rigged up ah to loa and they're just um, drifting her a nice death dream. It's messed up I mean. 24:59.21 Leonard Um, yeah. 25:10.87 Leonard it's it's it's really messed up I was like oh man, there's some there are there are there are a lot of problems with what you 2 just did and I don't like any. 25:12.35 Dave Yeah. 25:26.60 Leonard And they're all bad. Every single thing that every aspect of this seems really bad and actually kind of awful. 25:35.62 Dave It's it's the only messed up but it's like ah Taylor is like oh I was I'm I'm too bad of shape I had to have Haley do it so he made his little sister like send their mother off to die. 25:43.20 Leonard Yeah. 25:50.57 Leonard Yeah, yeah, because my I'm too I'm too messed up my mind's too messed up from all the drifting I was forced to do via Shane to to to do it so I had to make Haley do it and I'm like man you you didn't really have to make know what? no one should have. 25:51.18 Dave Her own mind. 26:10.34 Leonard Done it. This is really this is really bad. This is I know you wanted like I understand your motives but man I do not like any aspect of what you 2 just did. 26:23.26 Dave No, because the only way to do that. It's like not tell the mom that that's happening and for 1 thing. 26:27.88 Leonard Um, yeah. 26:35.73 Dave We've already establishished that she's still connected to the sisterhood so drifting with her should have just like shattered your mind um and invited the high priestess into your head like that. That's what that's what happened with Shane that's the whole point of. 26:46.89 Leonard They hate it. 26:53.46 Leonard Right. 26:55.15 Dave Make sense. It's like they just forgot conveniently forgot that. 27:01.90 Leonard Yeah, yeah, the writers did in fact, conveniently forget that day. Ah oh and also in the in in her her death dream. Ah voice. Totally fine. Um, hey guess what. That will in fact, not be the case. Um, because ah yeah, almost immediately. He wakes up and these sisters just ah chant their little chant their little hive mind chant and he goes a wall instantaneously. Well not instantaneously because they do have time and time enough to to bury Brina um, before boy wakes up and and yeah because these episodes are all short amount of time. 27:49.38 Dave Um, yeah, it's so it's within a short amount of time. They're all short and it's like I mean I I know that she only has her. 28:00.99 Leonard Um. 28:09.63 Dave Sisterhood garb on Okay, but they buried they they do the the plinth not plinth. They just they do the um stone burial where you're buried and they just pile a bunch of rocks on you. Ah. 28:13.30 Leonard A. 28:21.30 Leonard Um, yeah. 28:26.48 Dave And they they buried her next to Shane because they didn't go anywhere. They're just that's where they've been so they're they're right on the edge of the territory and they barrier there and then they like the grave marker is her. 28:27.57 Leonard Yeah, that's right, That's right, They didn't go anywhere. 28:43.12 Leonard Yeah, it's shattered. They broke it but still. 28:43.81 Dave Sister had mask as like but my dude you have her dog tags. You could have put them there and. 28:50.29 Leonard Oh yeah, no I got to take them. No, they're mine. They're my memory of my mommy I need them. 28:57.38 Dave No, but he does it again later anyway. So what did it matter. 29:02.91 Leonard Well see but that would that was ah a proper memorial site. Not a pile of walks and rocks in the middle of the outback. Um, it. 29:05.62 Dave Okay, her body's still under there like holy crap kid get together. Um, anyway, so yeah. 29:16.50 Leonard They they they they have poor judgments they they have shown throughout the entire series that they both exhibit extremely poor judgment skills ah in in every aspect of their existence. 29:26.42 Dave Yeah, it it and may's not helping them um loa like they just stop listening to her so or now she's complicit. She's like. 29:41.48 Leonard Um, yeah, see yep. 29:44.26 Dave I've helped you send your mother to sleep. She's like that was beautiful. It's like ah but yeah, oh and this whole so the whole time in the background. We've had the um I got anybody give his name. The. 29:49.72 Leonard Now. 30:01.20 Leonard Um, apex. 30:03.48 Dave This yeah the apex. Ah super drone drone Slash Um Kaju just running around in the outback trying to meet up with boy. 30:09.20 Leonard Hybrid. 30:17.17 Leonard Yes. 30:21.00 Dave Because he has the super homing Instinct I don't guess what another thing that doesn't ever get explained that that part um, among among many other things. So yeah apex is like try to track him down and. 30:25.78 Leonard Um, no yep. 30:36.68 Leonard He gets into a little. He gets into a little ah skirmish with bogan. 30:40.45 Dave He get? Yeah, oh yeah, he runs by the little bit of bogan that's left and um I can't even think of the 1 dude he's the jerk. Yeah, the jerk guy that was. 30:54.74 Leonard Yeah. 31:00.14 Dave Um, he wanted to be None in command but may was so he he just kept picking fights with her so that dude is um I mean he's not the thing is he's he's not stupid. He's just he just was like sad that he wasn't second in command that's all it was. 31:07.19 Leonard Yep. 31:14.63 Leonard Yes. 31:18.90 Dave He just was jealous but his that didn't diminish his like capabilities. Um, so he these sees apex and he's like oh shit we don't We don't want that coming near us. It's it's it's running like. 31:37.33 Leonard Yet. 31:37.63 Dave Parallel with where we're at so y'all just hold tight. It'll be gone soon. It's running pretty quickly and they're all they all they have like rpgs and just a ton of weaponry trained at it and his. None of his subordinates technically I guess she's not a subordinate It's just one of the boin people. Um, she's like shaking. It's like maybe don't put her up with the front and with the rock e laundre and she's shaking and he's like okay, it's almost It's gone. It's almost out of here now and she just. 32:06.55 Leonard Yeah. 32:14.56 Dave Shoots at it and it it doesn't hit the the rocket like goes off and blows up a hill or something but it it draws the attention of it enough that it turns and then everyone flips out and so they just start praying and spraying because no one's. 32:15.38 Leonard Yep. 32:34.47 Leonard Yeah. 32:34.49 Dave Hitting it. It's too far away for one and it like kind of considers them and then realizes they can do nothing so it's like ah okay I'm just I got other stuff to do and it just pieces out again. But then the that fired off the rocket. She's like. 32:54.40 Leonard Um, yeah, and then it it is It is. 32:54.25 Dave But can't let it get away I don't I mean I think it's the same girl. It's the one of the other I think his name goes. She's I can't let it get away and so she has this like a sniper rifle or something and it's about to shoot it and so the the the dude just like shoots her in the head I mean she she was. 33:07.19 Leonard Um, yeah, once again. 33:13.41 Dave Literally endangering all of bogan again in ah in a space of breath. 33:15.20 Leonard I know but what and once again, the end and this sequence this exchange highlights once again, the Bizarre Breakneck tonal shifts. This show has. 33:32.23 Dave Oh yeah, you say okay. 33:34.26 Leonard On occasion because man once I had forgotten that like oh yeah, that's right, That's a thing that could just happen in the show like oh yeah, somebody could just get violently murdered by being shot in the head in the show which swings between that extreme and like. Sibling fighting over dumb nonsense and I'm like I can't It's so it's yes, um. 33:58.22 Dave Well because you get way more of the latter and then when the other stuff pops up. It's like what you should forget and then it just laps you. You're like ah okay, oh yeah, this is what we're doing. It's way darker, but it's not no, it's It's just some sometimes. 34:11.80 Leonard Um, but it's not it's way dark darker for yeah yeah, um, but yeah apex is is trying to help boy and um, the sisters. 34:18.17 Dave It's like for shock value like okay. 34:30.42 Leonard Are are there standing on on some rocks and chanting ah boy wakes up and hey he's He's not the boy that you love and fortunately he doesn't transform inside of the Jaeger because that would have been a huge Problem. He has the wherewithal. The. Ah, exit out through the hatch before he Transformed. Yep. 34:51.38 Dave And then like transformed. Yeah I mean he could have just transformed it and like destroyed the entire thing that would have been the end of it. Everyone died but no, he he jumps out and then transforms and then wiggles his little ears. 35:01.60 Leonard Well we can't have that. 35:07.94 Leonard Yes. 35:10.58 Dave They're so floppy. It's weird The little gizmo years. 35:14.79 Leonard And then there's a fight and and hey they're Bat Haley doesn't want them to fight even though he's trying to kill them because once again Haley makes really poor decisions when it comes to this weird Kaiju kid. Um, so she's grabbing arms and keeping ah keeping Atlas destroyer from from punching. It's she's real batch once again, real poor decision making skills. Um. 35:48.82 Dave Yeah I mean they do a pretty good job holding him back without actually hurting him mentally like because he's tiny so he just climbs over and then sulexesism or it like a stone cold stunner. He just. 35:58.30 Leonard Yeah, yeah, it's like ah it's like he's like yeah, he's like he. It's like the equivalent like given their size difference. It's like a human versus. 36:08.40 Dave Um, crabs their neck and just drops them. 36:17.49 Leonard A chimpanzee. Um, right? exactly just like in just like in real life. Ah, don't wrestle Itty primate. Please It's a really bad idea they are. 36:19.29 Dave Yeah, and the chimpanzee is clearly stronger. He's just like yeah yeah, don't wrestle a championmp will be bad. 36:36.38 Leonard Unbelievably strong and will eat your face. Um, So ah, ah, ah, apex arrives and and and grabs boy and starts firing mind lasers into him because he ah. It apparently recorded all of boys memories. Um, yeah, we write? Yeah, So it's it's like a combination well at least up until that point it's Good. Oh. 36:57.22 Dave Yeah, the 1 time that had zapped him boy it also zapped haley. So. 37:10.90 Leonard I Guess that oh man that solves the problem of him being like upset about the betrayal because that hadn't happened yet when they met apex. So it's it's all clean, slate all water under the bridge. But yeah, he tries to tries to. 37:23.42 Dave Yeah. 37:28.30 Leonard Do a memory restore on Boy. Ah, but boys not the the sisters aren't having any of it so they just ah they pray harder and and that makes boy ah extra ah resistance to memories and super super strong. And he also starts being the crap out of ah apex as Well. Um, um. 37:53.77 Dave I Thought that part was a little weird. Um, mostly because Apex has bodied everything up until this point I was like ah seems like it should be almost indestructible. But here we here we go. 38:03.26 Leonard Yep, ye um, the Atlas destroy. Yeah, exactly the best Kaji there ever was um, ah. 38:09.72 Dave I mean he is the Kaiji messiah. So. 38:18.50 Leonard Ah, Atlas destroyer needs to reset because ah the because a apart's broken are are are not yeah um. 38:22.59 Dave Um, yeah, a bunch of it I mean he got jacked Nias Troy got jacked up. They keep putting you know in Intel components in like right behind the head. 38:32.84 Leonard Yeah, in the head in the shoulders because I think it was like a shoulder actuator or something that was like yeah exactly um and meanwhile the apex he like. 38:40.48 Dave Yeah, it's like hey say goodbye to your arms. 38:51.61 Leonard Is this like the punch the ah where boy is just repeatedly punching. Ah a ah yeah off, Um, and ah, they just have to sit there and watch while ah, they're giant Robot reboots. 38:56.40 Dave Um, he's punching him in head and it like it's like cracking all the armor. 39:10.30 Leonard Ah, ah, ah, but it but it does and and they manage to grab boy and ah a begs finishes his memory restore and it and then dies. 39:25.45 Dave Yeah, he just dies like okay, he just showed up in the Nick of time to restore some memories and that's that was it that was his purpose. 39:27.92 Leonard Um, yep, just. 39:38.86 Leonard Um, yep. 39:40.80 Dave Check that off the list of unsatisfying throughlines. 39:46.76 Leonard Yep, it's that well that was the thing that was so bizarre because when they introduced apex I was like oh man that's really where I'm like like does he like. Oh he and boy have like this really weird like relationship where they they're kind of connected. Um and that you know that was before they had the end of season None revelation of like surprise boy of kaju so I thought he was like there was like. He was like instead of like having to have 2 pilots. Ah for for apex. It was like this weird like mind telepathy connection with him boy and then then I'm just like oh no, but boys also a jaeger. I'm not yeageger, but ah kaju that can transform between like his stealth like human appearance and and and and Kaiju form and I'm like so what is the relationship between the None okay doesn't matter doesn't make sense and and it's it's yes as you said deeply. Unsatisfying at the end. 40:57.85 Dave He's just okay, he was just a memory receptacle that thanks and he he gave them an arm. Yeah no and he um, ate. 40:59.96 Leonard Yep. 41:04.38 Leonard Yeah, yeah, exactly that they were never particularly proficient with. 41:15.32 Leonard Yes, yes, he did. 41:15.42 Dave Some rippers to protect them. But that was never like he was just eating them. Yeah. 41:24.71 Leonard Yeah, ah, boys upset and the sisters are so angry that they throw off their organization 13 cloaks and reveal that they're just wearing like body suits under. Ah, even even the high priestess but she's got a super special. Ah, gray and blue number because she's the most mutated of them. Um, and and they ah they begin to pursue our protagonist right into the final episode of the series. 42:01.17 Dave Yeah, so that brings us to final approach episode 7 and our our crew are. 42:07.44 Leonard Yes. 42:14.67 Dave Making a literal run for sidney base 17 hour long run that they they do a weird. Um they talk about it and they're like yeah, we'll just switch off which. 42:18.30 Leonard Um, yeah, sure. Ah. 42:34.57 Dave Doesn't make sense because that means 1 person's always running but they don't even do that because because ah may just takes the blue bogan and um, they're because they're their sensor equipment's all jacked up because of the. 42:36.46 Leonard Um, each yet? Yes, no. 42:50.64 Leonard Um, yep. 42:53.32 Dave The damage done by Boy so she just rides to bluebogan and uses its um, sensor arrays to scout for kayju and uses that like as the as the scout the forward Scout X I Think that's technically what it's called but Blue bogan sounds way better. 43:09.83 Leonard This is this is. 43:12.23 Dave And um, yes I think yeah, she's just writing in there and ah ah Taylor and Haley are just running for 17 hours straight 43:28.36 Leonard Yep, a boy still a kaiju. 43:31.26 Dave And boys just running along with them and te was like ohho that they say that the ka you blood gives you incredible endurance or some stupid likes Skye you yeah, it's like a performance. Yeah, it's like but that's just his blood. 43:39.42 Leonard Yeah, yeah, it's a performance enhancing drug. 43:49.81 Leonard Um, yep. 43:50.93 Dave Butdy and I guess technically he had a boost. It's like I guess if you were doing doping like blood doping because he got the sisters blood I don't know I don't I don't know it's very silly and. 43:56.61 Leonard Right? Yeah, exactly. Um, and no one considers hey maybe it's a really bad idea for us to be running up on same name with ah Kaju. Um, no one suggests that well to be fair, they are being pursued by the sisters who are. 44:17.13 Dave They are there. They're being pursued by the sisters who are sending like level category three s at them and then a category six is like on the way and they're doing um like. 44:24.30 Leonard Um, yes. 44:34.18 Dave Right of the valkyries like there's like little trumpets and they have little trumpets little horn trumpets. Yeah, and they're just going can do and it hears them from wherever and it it had a weird name. It was like the breaker. 44:35.61 Leonard Yeah, they they have home. They have horns. They actually have like Kaju horn trumpets. Yep. 44:51.54 Leonard Yeah I think the breacher it is known as the breeder. Um, yeah, and was in some cityscape and I'm just like how did how did you where where is this how far away from where this this. 44:53.98 Dave Something breacher. Yeah, he's an Israel bag. 45:09.92 Leonard Finale is inevitably going to take place. Are you? How did you get here so fast I don't know because space and time ultimately have no meaning because they're just trying to wrap this show up come on folks don't question it. 45:23.25 Dave Yeah, it's somewhere in that 17 hours long space space between Bogan and Sydney. 45:27.62 Leonard Um, yeah. 45:33.80 Leonard We get some cool ah salamanry Kaijuws that can ah burrow underground because may's like hey I was getting some level threes but they just disappeared and I don't find that suspicious at all. Only for them to to reemerge and their cool old salamanders. Ah and Atlas destroyer takes None out has kind of a rough time of it boy instantly nukes the second one because of court. Yeah. 46:06.47 Dave Yeah, he just snaps its neck. 46:10.58 Leonard Because of after Haley told him to stay out of it and I'm like you literally just watched him murder apex I don't think category three s are going to be a problem. 46:23.68 Dave Yeah, well and then they and and you guys watched him in his boy form walk through a city and then just one shot all the rippers I mean they didn't see him do it but they saw the bodies and they were like. 46:33.55 Leonard Um, right, do it the aftermath. Yeah. 46:41.79 Dave Oh yeah, they're these kids I don't know Yeah I don't know. 46:44.32 Leonard Bad bad poor decisions every decision The every decision that they have made individually and collectively have at they've been rolling ones on a D twenty for the entirety of the show. Um, and they never question it and man. Yeah, he instantly instantly takes him out and they move forward sisters get there and they're obviously upset. Ah and continue to chase them. 47:19.30 Dave Um, yeah, and then when sydneyney realizes like that a kaju and a jaeger are coming close and they they're like Atlas Destroyer was decommissioned years ago. It must be a trap and. 47:33.18 Leonard Yeah, it should have been destroyed. 47:37.28 Dave Yeah, so they just launch a ton of like ah Salbos and salbos of missiles and yeah, no, they just have yagers holding giant rocket launchers. 47:41.50 Leonard Yes, from from Jagers from jagers they don't even have a missile system they have to yep um, yes. 47:53.00 Dave Ah, and it like it wipes out all of the sisters except for the high sister. 47:59.10 Leonard Who who is now so angry and so upset that she's ah she she'll finally reveal her horrible visage which is she just looks like so serpenttor from g I Joe in his. 48:13.91 Dave Um, yeah, yeah, and she's super wiry. You know, Actually she's just reminding me of like friza like just like. 48:16.68 Leonard Snake form. Yep, um oh she does actually kind of yeah. 48:30.14 Dave A little little more gangly you know. 48:33.89 Leonard There is some freezer there. She's just got the It's the weird. Super um, um, like um, rectasy yes and she's got like the weird rectasy mouth where the the cheeks. 48:40.94 Dave I think is the white body suit and she's bald. 48:50.98 Leonard Are way too sucked in like I thought that there wasn't like there weren't any. There wasn't any cheek material cheek flesh there at None But no, it's just like really sucked in gaunt there. We go. That's the word I'm looking for. 49:03.73 Dave Yeah I mean she's missing some because she hurt her her mouth her sharp teeth mouth goes like a further back than it should. But yeah, she's just tackling villain mode. 49:11.95 Leonard Right um. Yes, very um, yeah, the breacher. Ah the once again, the kids aren't communicating are are not communicating well at all, they're like they give the they're like hey Atlas destroy where you know where. Atlas destroyer and the bases like us should have been destroyed when the blood when we initiated like the blackout or whatever and then they don't say anything for a really long time and then they're like we're the children of brina and then they're like oh man stop firing the missiles. Um. And that's when the breacher shows up and then sidney provides absolutely no support for the rest of this episode. 50:07.85 Dave Yeah, and it's super weird because that Kaiju is huge. It's like 4 times bigger than Atlas destroyer. 50:11.60 Leonard Yeah, real big. Yeah, um, yeah, and they're like oh man. Well we're just gonna see how this plays out before we bake our next move and I'm. 50:23.58 Dave Um, like you guys have like twelve Jagers just guarding the gate. It's very silly. 50:29.76 Leonard Yep, it's real I was really upset I was like I'm like you're within communications distance you could detect Boy. You know that this Kai shoe is out here and you are you are sitting there and watching this thing murder these children. Um, yeah, it's insane. Um, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Um. 50:51.87 Dave Um, well they know it's theirs. They hit it with missiles. 50:59.90 Leonard Yeah, they also hit boy with missiles which knocked him out and apparently he retransformed into human mode off screen because I don't recall that actually happening. But yeah, um, and of course. Ah. 51:06.70 Dave There Yeah, it just showed him like knocked out into as a boy Boy bodyy. 51:16.30 Leonard The high priest this is like ah my is still having her weird I'm super scared of you for some reason and high priest is is like I'll just get be the boy and I'll let you go? Ah um, and yeah and you think. And it was the way that the the way that this scene is shot. It seems like less like she's um, like my is making a decision and more like the high priest is this hypnotizing year on I'm like what is going on but no, that's not what's happening. She's just making a decision and decision is now I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna take the boy and and run. 52:03.17 Dave Um, yeah, it's weird just weirdly framed. 52:10.14 Leonard Ah, yeah, um, but somehow the high priests gets boy back. Um, and you know she's like hey you know we'll you'll get get you back up to snuff and everything will be super cool and. Meanwhile let's watch. Yeah, my favorite Kaju kill your friends and and then boy um reaches into her chest and rips out her heart. That's the that's the end of her that's another enough. 52:41.98 Dave She turns and she's like why like that I don't think there's what she says but it it was like that she was just like what not did not expect this. 52:47.30 Leonard You're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, was yeah yeah, yeah, honestly, if it would have been it would have been more satisfying as she if she had turned to him and said what and then just died. Ah. Um, yeah, the preachers are really clobbering Atlas destroyer so loa makes decides that she has to make a big sacrifice but before she does that she's got a. Eject the kids and the kids are like no we love you. You're our friend and we can't abandon you and she's like you've got a 2% chance of survival and she forces them into she forces them into ejector pods and launches them out and then nukes herself. 53:46.37 Dave Um, yeah, well and the only bit the only other bit of um, development that lo she was probably 1 of the more fleshed out backstories sort of. 53:46.43 Leonard And the breacher and almost my and boy. 54:03.82 Leonard Yep. 54:05.90 Dave Um, but she she gave us the the history of why she's upset. Um because on her first mission and she's she's one of the None ais that have and like emotion chips or something. 54:11.98 Leonard D yes. 54:21.58 Leonard Yeah. 54:25.35 Dave And on her None mission she was too worried about her pilots like the ah the chances of their survival being so low that she didn't want to activate and then they just they just sidelined her and turned it on to manual mode and then everyone died. 54:40.59 Leonard Yep yep. 54:43.34 Dave So she has she has her own like PDsd which is what which what she was having. Yeah the guilt trip that she was getting when she saw the um ah all the wreckages of the kind of jagers back in the weird ah pit. 54:44.69 Leonard Yes, she has she has guilt. 55:01.94 Dave Place where they met apex in the first season so that it kind of explains that part sort of um and it's meant to be the other like yeah effectively I guess loa and Shane's moments were like the Hype. 55:02.49 Leonard Yes. 55:12.44 Leonard Um, yeah. 55:20.65 Dave High points I mean they're not good points but like they're the ones you can. You're supposed to empathize with I don't I get in the lower one I'm still not feeling the shame thing because that just wasn't like built up for it. 55:31.86 Leonard No, not at all right. 55:37.75 Dave Just happened and you're like well yeah, that sucked you know this one was more like mm couldn't we do something else about this I don't I Guess there's no other way. Okay, and it's like you you ejected those kids awfully close to this giant nuclear Blast you're setting off. 55:39.99 Leonard Um, yeah. 55:54.27 Leonard Yep, oh, don't worry the way that it works is that they've got they've got lead shielding at their backs as long as they're escape Pods. Don't face towards the explosion. They should be fine. That was my favorite part. My favorite part was that they were like oh these aren't even containers. They're like on little like ironing boards. Um, so yeah, the. 56:14.97 Dave Yeah. 56:23.45 Leonard Lo is gone. Oh hey, Sidney finally shows up man. It's really convenient that you showed up right after everything happened and and then and then I got real and then I got really excited for just a None 56:33.51 Dave Yeah. 56:43.12 Leonard Because they get to Sydney and it's the same. It's like almost the same setup as brina um, at the beginning of the episode they're in like the same location they talk to they talk to the the commander. Um, the the. Ah, the same exact shot that truck pulls up and I was like oh my god there is this going to be like they lost and like this is low like who like given them. 57:11.50 Dave Um, that would have been better than what actually happened. 57:15.30 Leonard Yeah I was like really excited because I was like oh man if they do something really kind of dark and subversive and really sad at the end of this I might like I won't say that it's good. But I'm like I might be on board with having like marathon these last 3 episodes. But no, it's not.. It's just that the animation mission Budget's really low so they reuse the same exact shots. Yeah. 57:39.43 Dave Yeah, and that it doesn't make sense in continuity because the Sydney it's been years and it shouldn't look like that and then neither Brina nor Haley would have seen it. 57:54.72 Leonard Yeah, yep. 57:57.00 Dave So it's like where are they getting that lo it wasn't there like where are they populating that from So it's just like what like I yeah I would have been more on board with it like it sort of blips and then. 58:01.56 Leonard Um, yet. 58:16.99 Dave Was like goodbye children or so you know you're just like what that I would have been Okay, they didn't make it That's fine because what you get is like it's just it's just feels. It feels cheap. 58:18.43 Leonard Right. 58:32.78 Leonard Yeah, it does Yep there. 58:34.63 Dave Like that keep us the way out and they they go back and get their mothers. They 17 hours away into the black which they well they wouldn't have been able to because the ccpd like wouldn't even let. 58:41.87 Leonard No, they don't I refuse believe that they went back and got her body. 58:52.55 Dave Find out that the reason why their dad's fat and happy here is because he was like forbidden from going into the black like nobody could go in there. 58:57.57 Leonard Yeah, that's yeah, that's the story that they had sure. That's the story that he likes to tell him that sure that's totally I'm like I'm like you like oh oh, that's what right. 59:03.92 Dave Yeah. 59:09.47 Dave Oh here's your new mom. 59:13.73 Leonard That they yeah exactly there was a part of me that was a man that was also like another thing where I was just like oh man What if he just had a completely new family like when they got there I was just anything. Yeah I was just like anything. 59:25.58 Dave There's no way he doesn't it's been like 6 years 59:30.65 Leonard Anything to just like so subvert this schmaltzy nonsense that you're giving me right now. 59:31.10 Dave Shake it up a little. 59:39.72 Dave Yeah, they just have a like little funeral wall and this is where ah Taylor um hangs his little mom his little 1 his mom's little dog tags on her like plaque. 59:46.36 Leonard Yep. 59:58.99 Dave Doesn't even have a body so you would have just done better to put it on the little pile of rocks. 59:59.14 Leonard Yep. 01:00:03.92 Leonard Yeah, yes, um, the ah the cup. Yep, um oh and my favorite. My favorite is the is the hey what? what's the deal with Boy Common Dot who's here. 01:00:06.65 Dave Yeah, oh and and may and boy are now just part of the family. 01:00:22.23 Leonard For no reason other than to exposit at me what boy is ass Haley oh well, we found him we found him. 01:00:27.51 Dave It is who we find him wandering in the desert. He's a weapon. Okay. 01:00:33.95 Leonard We were studying um when the the city fell and it. 01:00:37.95 Dave He was in Meridian we were studying him and we were going to find out all the cool stuff that we can't tell you because we don't know what? what. 01:00:44.29 Leonard Yeah, and I'm just like wait a minute that that sounds like nonsense because he was in a room he was in a room in a tube and in that room or several of the same tubes that were all broken. Did Did you just have a room of specimen tubes. The voice sized specimen tubes. Um, for just this one this one bio Weapon Kaju Stealth Stealth Ka you buy a weapon I was just like I was so upset. That was that was. 01:01:22.19 Dave That's not that's not even the most upsetting thing. So the commandant said there, he's like yeah we find him he was a weapon and Heyley's like don't worry. He's fine now. 01:01:37.30 Leonard Yep, he's not a weapon anymore. Yep and I was just like oh man I am so ready for this to be done. Yeah. 01:01:37.31 Dave Yeah, he'll never be a weapon. He's not a weapon anymore because he loves me what what fresh hell that coming out will be like yeah no, we can't do that. We can't let a weapon wander around. Um he he morphs into a giant kaiju. We just. 01:01:56.76 Leonard I was like oh come on at least give me like the final episode of Alf where they arrest they take but they rip boy away from a and then the series is over and there's no resolution. Give me some meat in this. 01:01:57.16 Dave Can't take that risk. 01:02:16.19 Leonard Desiccated multibone of a show give me something to latch onto so that I do not feel that all of this time and effort was for not. 01:02:25.84 Dave Yeah, because the way it the way it pans out is the exact same they could have just cut the show when they pretend they got to Sydney and nothing would have been different other than the mom was alive. 01:02:36.33 Leonard Um, yeah, yes, exactly Yep Absolutely to. 01:02:44.65 Dave And then you have to deal with okay they have their family back. The Mom's there but now she's perpetually connected to the Kaiju Hive mine. So she's always at risk. Um, just like yeah and then roll credits. 01:02:53.20 Leonard Right? Yeah, they just take the mom and boy away and that's the yeah. 01:03:03.94 Dave Yeah that's not what we get so we it. It didn't answer the question we had at the beginning of season None where like what's boy. What's going on with this kid. Um, yeah, or you know it it answered it but with like the most unsatisfactory like that's what you said the none time like I get that. Like I understand that he's a hybrid kaju probably weapon thing like that did that's what you kind of hinted at in the beginning and then you just twin. Yeah yeah, we're just confirming it and so what are this is what's the messiah like you didn't answer any of that like. 01:03:37.89 Leonard Yep. 01:03:43.80 Dave What were the sisters trying to do. We don't know who mean they had to be getting a lot of money like their Shane was paying them all kinds of money for kaju parts or no I think I think. 01:03:57.11 Leonard Um, yep, yes money for. 01:04:01.37 Dave No, they they were paying him money for Kaju Parts eggs because they needed to build up their Kaju army but where did the where did they get the money just from people they murdered I don't like that they were doing on bogan so they're just giving him back his own money. 01:04:08.80 Leonard Exactly yeah from the rate from the raids that they they can don't quite. Don't think well I'm sure they were rating other places but also don't think about the fact that yes, they were also rating but. Boin as well and somehow Shane was still doing business with them. Yeah, yeah. 01:04:28.23 Dave Um, and he knows like they took None of his people or the woman and then just killed the dudes. Yeah. 01:04:39.34 Leonard Ah, apex. Ah what? what's boy and apex's relationship doesn't matter apex is dead and. 01:04:44.19 Dave Doesn't matter what's apex I mean we know what apex is but why is he do the thing. Why is he? what? yeah. 01:04:50.69 Leonard Why is there even a room but right why the apex is only interesting because he has a connection with boy and then that's never examined and and will never be because apex is dead now. 01:05:04.79 Dave Yeah. 01:05:07.92 Leonard Hey my may may ah what? what about? ah your family and your memories in it. Nope No not gonna never gonna exam that either Okay, cool. Glad that that was inched. 01:05:18.85 Dave So I could see if she like if it showed us that she you know, injected them or whatever like used lower to interface and regain her memories and then she was having a breakdown ah would have made sense. 01:05:30.55 Leonard Right. Um, yep. 01:05:38.54 Dave Now she has trouble reconciling the two sides of her nature to go do that would have been some character development um to go to? yeah. 01:05:44.44 Leonard Can have that these episodes are 22 are to 26 minutes long day. We can't have that I yep I have never I have. 01:05:50.80 Dave You couldve just had a None episode season in None episode of character building and the I hope it the low is like everyone's changed the beginning yo tather you, you're. You. Everyone's proud of you? No no, one's fucking proud of him. He's consistently just ruining everything and he didn't learn any lessons. 01:06:08.35 Leonard Now that I mean they both they both are to be perfectly. Honest, um I have yes yes, actually yes, she's the what. 01:06:18.60 Dave Um, the only one that learned any lessons was may. 01:06:27.20 Leonard The one character that has had the most character development in the entire series and it really wasn't all that much. Um I had I can I cannot remember the last time that I have. 01:06:34.56 Dave No. 01:06:43.20 Leonard Committed this much time to something that presented so many chehobs guns that refused to be fired I was I was astounded. They were all of every single one of them. 01:06:53.97 Dave They were all jammed I don't even know if they were loaded that they just may have not been. 01:07:01.45 Leonard Yeah, exactly. Um I it was man. Yeah I'm yeah you know I Ah really I spent basically every single time talking about this this. Show trying to be as nice as possible but man this was ah everything about this ending felt was antiticlimactic and a total total bummer. 01:07:29.31 Dave Yeah, it's a 14 episode series that it went went on longer than it needed to but at the same time could have been longer and it would have been better because of the pacing. 01:07:35.24 Leonard That. 01:07:48.12 Dave Because it it ah season one started off slow ramped up and then you know how to so good at a conclusion and season two should have kept running with that ball. They did not they were like actually. 01:07:56.36 Leonard Um, yes. 01:08:06.91 Dave That worked real well for season one so we're going to go like 4 episodes and be real slow and then we'll start doing something oh look oh we ran out of time like but you could have you know you could have just ended this with season one just not had a season 2 and be like oh. 01:08:16.22 Leonard Yep. 01:08:22.79 Leonard Um, yeah. 01:08:26.42 Dave And I would have went Oh what are all these crazy mysteries Guess we'll never know and now it's like now we know what the mysteries were they sucked. 01:08:30.87 Leonard Ah, and they're all deeply deeply unsatisfying answer Yeah I like I said I tried really did I was like ah man like because you know I don't want to be like oh man this is garbage and you shouldn't waste. 01:08:39.60 Dave Oh. 01:08:50.35 Leonard Time like there's some value to be mined out of it and it has some interesting ideas and I was hoping that they would capitalize on them but they didn't. 01:08:50.42 Dave Um, it's. 01:08:56.96 Dave Um, yeah, there's some fun stuff in it. Um, but those aren't like enough. However, if you're just binge watching these that that's the way to do it. Don't So don't spread this out like. 01:09:05.79 Leonard Um, yeah, yeah. 01:09:16.30 Dave Dumb or do 2 episodes a day or something. She's like you're gonna be real sad just watch the whole thing and then you can forget about it like it's yeah, but yeah, hey we we spent the. 01:09:20.33 Leonard Yeah, and then forget yeah, exactly yeah, that's it. That's that's that. 01:09:35.74 Dave I don't know ah 6 hours longer um I think discussing this then the actual show needed to have broken down. 01:09:42.96 Leonard Oh yeah, ah, longer than the actual series itself I would reckon. We've talked about it longer than the None episode run of the show. if if I'm going to be perfectly. Honest. 01:10:00.48 Dave Yeah, ah it had it had potentially could have been something real cool. Um I didn't get around to reading the prologue comics which were supposed to explain like what the black What what happened with that. 01:10:06.57 Leonard Yeah. Um. 01:10:19.30 Dave I Mean we got like the little bit of explanation in there but it was minimal. Um, well I guess the the pipes are telling us. It's time to wrap this up. 01:10:27.39 Leonard Ah, yes, my my my timer pipes have gone ah off I I'm like of now I'm like super super conscious of the home. 01:10:43.90 Dave We've been. We've been doing this forever I've never heard those until like last episode and I wasn't even on the episode to hear. Um, um, yeah. 01:10:46.26 Leonard Ah, yeah, Surprise Welcome Welcome to my the nightmare of my weird screaming pipes because I live in like a ridiculous haunted match and ask oh hold. Century old apartment building. 01:11:07.62 Dave Yeah, all right? Well let's let's send us on home I think there's nothing left to to dig out of this kaju mess and Leonard where can folks find you on the interwebs. 01:11:17.33 Leonard No. Yes, people can find me on Twitter at Dr Faust is dead that is my main account I am spending surprisingly little time on it even though I'm not actually actively working on anything else I'm just trying to limit my exposure to Twitter. Because it makes me act up. Ah, but if you're interested in ah little odds and in bits and bobs. Ah food cats and ah random observations about hopefully mostly video games and basically um, the. Things going on my life ah feel free to follow there and if you're interested in ah my professional Twitter account you can find that at umbra knox productions ah it's an account that I spend woefully few ah um ah brain cells and a little attention on which I really should ah and am hoping to change ah but yeah that's my professional ah business ah Twitter account and if you're interested in my video game. Ah. Essays I am a video game so essays you can find that on ah Youtube by searching at Dr Faust yes at Dr Faust's note not at because of Twitter this search Dr Faust is dead and you can find my um Youtube ah professional account at business account. At ah, unbernoed productions as well. Dave where can people find you on the interwebs. 01:13:00.92 Dave Folks can find me on Twitter atintinat andcore plus that's that's pretty much it. Um, you can find our our wayward co-hosts cameron. And on Twitter at night underscored twitten and that's night without a k and then Adam you can also find on Twitter at adambuchery um, those will all be in the the show notes as always the podcast itself. You can find this and back episodes on http://monsterdeer.monster that's ah, that's us for for this week we will return next week with more Eldon ring I don't know what area we'll be going in do next? Um, but we will let you know before that episode drops. Ah yeah. 01:13:43.46 Leonard Um, ah. 01:13:53.46 Dave That's that's us saying goodnight folks. Um, and we'll we'll send you off with some now new ending theme Tunes Bye Bye folks. 01:14:04.14 Leonard Goodbye.