mergeconflict304 === [00:00:00] James: Frank, they've done it. They've made me want to buy another drone, uh, [00:00:07] Frank: drone. Are we talking about drones today? James? I'm so excited. I don't even care who it is. I'm just excited. We're talking about drones. [00:00:14] James: I saw a video come up on YouTube. Like one does in the early afternoon. And this video wanted me to immediately spend $250. I'm the cutest most amazing drone in the world from a company that no one would expect. [00:00:31] Frank: Oh, we're talking about Snapchat, DGI, some cool. Make it yourself, drone. Build it up from pieces. Talking about Snapchat. Aren't they? The, uh, what do they do? Photo sharing? Is that what [00:00:44] James: they do? Well, snap Inc. Creators of Snapchat would tell you that snap Inc is a camera company and they do camera type things like put them on your glasses and put them inside of a drone revolutionary. [00:00:59] Frank: Revolutionary so much that GoPro has been doing it forever. DJI released a new FPV camera. Drone. Yeah. They're everywhere. It's live. Future James. We're all being spied [00:01:09] James: upon. Well, did you see that there's a new hero, a GoPro hero that is made for drones. So it has everything removed. Like there's no screen. There's no battery. There's no anything. It's like super-duper light. So you can Mount it on top of a drone. [00:01:22] Frank: That's funny because those are exactly the cameras we've been putting on drones. It was like really the same lens, the same sensor and everything. It was just stripped of the GoPro brand and packaging and all that. And that was, those have been the cameras we've been using, but it's funny, they go pro on, in, on that game, but we're not here to talk about high end stuff. We're here to talk about a weird tech company, making a very weird product. They made a drone, James, it looks kind of like, okay, drones fall into so many classes. The good ones used in like how we word and sending packages to Amazon employees, that those kinds of drones. Then you have the consumer grade ones, which you're supposed to get licensed for, but no one does whatever. They're fine. They're great. We both enjoy flying them. And then you have the sub two 50 gram drones. Yes. This is the fun category because you don't need a license. Anything goes there. You can do anything you want. But James, I was reading the tech specs on this thing. It is 101 grams. This is the. Is this a toy? Is this a drone? I don't even know what it is, but you're down. They say it's not a toy. Yeah. [00:02:30] James: So this is a super interesting product for so many reasons and yeah. And that's including the battery. So if you were to look at my. Um, DGI Maverick mini. Uh, that was the first one. Uh, and I, and I love it. I think it's delightful. It's a right under that two 50 gram limit. It's like 2 49, uh, with the battery. In fact, if you put the cages on it's over two 50, so you have to fly without cages. So no, I love it. How they got it for me for Christmas. I did crash it. If you remember, and I had to get another one, but, um, You know, the replacement program helped out. I know, spent 50 bucks and they're like, here's a new one, but here's the, here's what I love about drones. And here's what I hate about drones. And here's where I think that this product is very unique. And then we'll go into detail. So I'm just gonna talk about the state of drone of, Hey, I'm a new person. I just, I just bought a drone. Drums are it depends what you want to do with it. I think when you and I went out, we're exploring drones. You had all your cool drones that you built. The fun of it for me was not necessarily the photo taking part of it. That was fun. But the fun part of it was kind of harking back to my RC card. But I'm doing it in the air. You know what I here [00:03:41] Frank: do not going to run over any dogs. You're not going to hit people's legs. It's not going to go off the curb and break, you know, the air is safe, dude. [00:03:50] James: Yeah. So to me, that was what was really neat about it. And now of course the bonus aspect is if I'm out doing something really cool, I can get sweet shots that I could never see, do crazy spins and it can object, track and do a bunch of stuff. But the thing with. You know, you can, you can talk about your experience, but the thing with drones for me is it is a ceremony. Okay. [00:04:14] Frank: Oh my God. With rules, I w with sheets, you do have a checklist. James, do you have a flight checklist? [00:04:22] James: You do. I have a, I have the one which is to make sure my batteries are charged and make sure that. At home before I've left, made sure all my battery firmware is up to date. My controller firmware is up to date. My drone firmware is up to date and then I might as well at that point, shove a battery in there and, and make sure the sensors are all aligned and make sure, oh, my, my cell phone is charged and oh. And make sure that the cables are in there. Correct. And oh, make sure that the DGI software is up to date and oh yeah, exactly. And then also let me make sure that. Um, I don't know that, uh, that I'm in a zone where I can actually fly this thing because there's a bunch of new flight. [00:05:03] Frank: Didn't you have a landing sheet too. Did you have one of those [00:05:06] James: grab a landing sheet while you're at it, and just honestly just slap all the boxes on the back all the time. But once you get out there that 20 minutes of in the air is just pure joy and you shove another battery pack in there and hopefully no one chucks a rock at it, and you're totally good to go. So the me is a joy. That's not what this is at all. This is you have, let me just, all those things that I just. This device, the pixie P I X Y its goal is to not do any of those things. I told you, it's not a racing drone. It's not a, I don't even know how you control the thing, I think maybe from your phone, but like this thing is all about getting rid of all of those things that I just said. [00:05:52] Frank: Right. So good, good stopping point because now I'm going to go all the way back to my experience. So you complained about all that stuff. Imagine building your own, you have a whole nother checklist to make sure you don't kill yourself. Don't kill anyone else. Don't count any dogs. Don't land in the tree, all that kind of stuff. So it's even worse. And getting into this pixie. All of that was great. I really, what I wanted was I wanted to get above the clouds, look around a little bit, see what I see and come back down. I don't do photography either. I find it's way too much work to just do a quick, a photography shot or anything like that. Not only that, but, um, because I was using my own drones. I remember I was, I was so proud. I was showing my family a drone. I had built one time and they're like, great. Pop it up, spin it around and take a picture of us. And I'm like, oh boy, oh boy. Remember this is my own control system. This is my own hardware build and everything. This thing was noxious powerful. I had built a racing drone. It was not designed for taking still photography of family groups. There were trees around. I was, I was freaking out. I'm like sweating. I got this one photo of me just sweating while trying to control this. So I think that was a lot of people's experiences, especially when they first started coming out. And it's really fun to see this whole new product category where like, okay, that was a fun experimental stage now that we know what we actually want here. Um, I probably just want a camera platform to take some beautiful shots of your vacation of your family and group photos. Cause then, you know, you don't have to have a designated photographer. It's, it's great for all that kind of stuff. Chase cam for making your cool YouTube channel we have now we've, we've been playing around with all the obnoxious, terrible drones. So now we have an idea of what we actually want out of these things. And I see pixie is just the latest and kind of that new class of drones, but yeah, super cool. So. Yeah, let's go with that. [00:07:48] James: Yeah. So let's describe this thing. This thing is a drone that is a little bit bigger than the Palm of your hand. Maybe, maybe two palms of your hand together. It is a perfect square from the looks of it. And it is in a bright yellow, which is absolutely delicious because snap is all about yellow and yellow icons. And it's my favorite color. So immediately I'm drawn to this thing, right? I'm drawn to. What this thing in my life, because it is a bright yellow, but it looks. A very cheap toy drone from China because we looked it up there's super-duper shit. Yeah. But that's what it looks like. It has a, and the reason I think it looks the cheap, the cheapest of cheap is because of this dial that it has on the top of mind boggling. It's like, sit up, [00:08:37] Frank: how is fine? It's a standard dial for a camera. You're missing it. They did it, you know, Okay. So things look cheap when they're made out of plastic. This has to be made on a plastic. You're not going to get to 101 grams with any other material right now. Yeah. That's just, that has to be it's better than it could be styrofoam. Well, how would you feel about a styrofoam one? I mean, you're in Nerf. Yeah. I mean, it's tempting, right. But it's nice because it's pill shade. You can tell they did their best to make sure if it does hit a tree, hopefully. And the tree that's always the problem hitting a tree is fine. Drones can take it. They're tough skin caught and you having to climb up the tree to get the drone. That's the problem. So it's got nice curve, a bezel bevel. I always get that word wrong about volt, edges and little protectors. My concern is it is the, um, It is the very small propeller class, which means it is going to make that horrific, horrific bundle bees swarm sound, I think, you know, unless they did something, but I'm not saying anything to prevent that sound from forming in here. So I think it's still gonna sound like a hive of bees, but otherwise I like it. I dig it and that the camera dial is totally ugly. But what else? [00:09:55] James: Yeah, it's super cute. So the whole concept is, as you put it in the Palm of your hand, there's a camera facing out at you and a camera facing down, uh, for my understanding, and you can flip this dial and it goes into different modes. So you can view, you know, what's happening on your camera, on your phone, your actual phone, but what you can do is you can set how far away would you like it to be? And then you can put it into like a follower mode. You can put it into a circle around me mode. You can put a, go above me, go behind me mode. These are standard things that are in my DGI. And these are actually some of my favorite features of my DJI drone, because it makes the thing that you said earlier with your family, a breeze, which is I would like to take a really cool video or a really cool photo right now. It enables you to do that immediately. So you put it in that. And you pick what you want, pick out your length and then you put it in the Palm of your hand and it just takes off. And it does the thing. [00:10:52] Frank: Yeah. Well, it's so different. Um, because the drones we've dealt with are, are see cars. You are in control. Uh, there is software to make sure you don't hit things or fall onto the ground or shoot up into space. But aside from that, you're in control and this is totally different. This is autonomous. As far as we can tell, or at least the majority of the modes are autonomous, where you're just gonna let it take off and hope the engineers at. Her amazing engineers, as far as we can tell it's using that camera a lot. I mean, how else are you going to center a photo unless you have to do that? Uh, from the app itself, I'm hoping it'll do a lot of that auto centering itself with a magic camera. Snap is, do you run, um, there's a snap camera software. You can get. On your computer, [00:11:46] James: do you run that? I do not, but I know many people that do it sort of enables you to do like AR VR stuff with backgrounds, you know, without the green screen. [00:11:56] Frank: Yeah. Once you've run all their filters, but on your webcam. And I downloaded it just to learn. I was curious like how it worked and all that kind of stuff. And then I left it on because there are some silly modes that I like to play with. So I totally trust. And the reason I brought that up is. They do a lot with machine learning. So I'm really curious to see how much machine learning they've done or if this is still a manual device. But I really like that change in perspective of I'm taking the drone for a flight versus I'm releasing the drone to take a picture of me and hopefully it will come. [00:12:27] James: Yeah. So from my understanding, what it does is when you launch it, you have the camera face you, so it knows who you are. So it's putting a bounding box around you, basically, of who it is. And then it goes into the mode and does the thing, and it attracts you the entire time. Now you can also have it follow you, which is cool and it can follow you. And then what's fascinating too is then you can put out your hand and it'll come back to your hand and land in your hand. So it takes off from your hand and lands in your hands. [00:12:55] Frank: That's awesome. The last time I tried to land a drone in my hand, I actually got a cool gash right in my Palm. I was, yeah, it was totally my fault. I second guessed everything at the last minute. Don't do that. You gotta, you gotta be brave. You gotta be confident. You gotta let that drone land, but I'm hoping the software is a lot better. And the whole thing is pill shaped. So like, honestly, if it, even if it missed your Palm, who cares. But I love that. That's how drones should work. I always recommended to people to go buy the cheap $20 drones on Amazon before they buy a real one to go practice with. Because if you can learn how to fly one of those little cheap $20 ones, you are good to go. You can handle the big. Because honestly, those things are a lot harder to control, but the, but the one best feature of those things is you can literally take one in your hand, row it, and then like turn on the motors and it can catch itself in the air. Um, so we had kind of perfected launches. Uh, of course it could take off by the Palm of your hand, but, uh, we don't have autonomy on those little ones. So I love the idea of. Using your actual Palm using actual image recognition actually locating your Palm and landing there. The DJs have done this for a while. They've had a downward facing something, camera something, and it would, they call it like targeting. And so they would try to land at exactly the same spot they took off from. I don't know what your experience with that is. It still seemed to miss a little bit. Yeah. Yep. You agree? Okay. So I'm hoping, I like how they restrained. Palms, because that is actually a pretty easy neural network to train people's palms tend to roughly look the same. And so that's, I have confidence that this will work. Look at me. I'm so excited. I just believe it's going to work. [00:14:43] James: So when I saw this thing and I saw the video, the verbs or wall street journal put out a thing, and of course they like launched the website and I immediately am like, I need to have this MLI because here's what I'm immediately thinking, which is. How many times in my life have I, since I've owned my drone. Okay. Since I've bought my drone, which is about like three years now, and I haven't used it as much as I thought I was going to use it. But how many times have Heather and I've been just, um, on the road or going on a vacation? And I go to myself. Oh, I wish I had the drone right now. Oh. [00:15:17] Frank: Every I did an epic 6,500 mile road trip, uh, in the fall. And all my photos are me standing next to my car. I was showing my family photos and they're like, huh? Do you have any without your car? No, I didn't get the drone out. It's a lot of work. You've got to undo all the boxes and the cables. So I had all these excuses. Yeah. So I've been looking for a small drone to replace my drone. I honestly love, but I just don't use it because it's so much effort and I'm totally with you. I'm digging. [00:15:50] James: So this thing is all about you. It has a shoulder strap thing. You can just Chuck it in there. Right? It's got tiny little replaceable batteries again, USB recharge it, you know, it's not, you can just put this and you put it in your purse, right. You can put it in a backpack, you put it anywhere. Um, it's not water resistant from what I can see, obviously. Um, but I think that this is like the absolute 100% perfect travel on the road, drone now, just because it's a snap and snap. Um, drone does not mean that your content is locked for Snapchat, nor does it portrait. It is, it is a landscape normal, you know, it's creating photos. 400 by three, 4,000 by 3000. [00:16:34] Frank: It actually has the option for portrait because it's such a modern world. You know, [00:16:39] James: of course it has a built-in 16 gig storage, but it'll wirelessly transfer all the photos and videos to your phone to Snapchat, but you can export them to your photos app and do whatever you want. Um, but of course you could that there, of course, ideas, like you can take these things and put them on Snapchat immediately, which is of course. [00:16:58] Frank: Now the one biggest downside of these small drones are, are the batteries batteries just by a lot. It's the nemesis of flight. And it's funny how they rate this one, because I was asking, how long can you keep it in the air? That's the usual question you ask with the drone. How long does. For crashes. And you told me a weird number. You said five to eight flights. Like what does that mean? Uh, it's it's hard to say, but, um, I guess a flight is however much time it takes to go from your. Get a good studio position, take a picture and land back in your Palm. And I guess you can do that five to eight times depending on wind and how slow you are to get into formation. Uh, I'm curious to see how that plays out in real life. Like five and eight as a gut-level feels like a small number, but truth be true. Like, you know, if I do two or three good photos a day, That's actually a lot of use out of it. If it's just sitting in my backpack, the one huge redeeming benefit, especially, I mean, some of your modern, small drones have this, but especially it's important, but this classes that's, USB-C charging. So chances are, you already have an extra little battery in your backpack or your purse or whatever you're carrying. And so hopefully you could just charge off of that. They're saying an 80% charge in 20 minutes. That's not bad. Go get a coffee. [00:18:20] James: Yeah, and I think what's cool here is that there, there is this flight path, which is only $20 more. It just comes with a dual a charger. And what they're saying is, yeah, you 20 minutes, like you said, you can get 80% of charge, which I guess. Four to seven flights can, [00:18:38] Frank: whatever that the [00:18:39] James: world we live in. Yeah. I mean, it does make sense. It's like based on mobile, blah, it's cool. It's shooting 2.7 K video, 30 frames per second, which is, I think what my drone does now. Of course the sensors, this stuff that's in there is going to be very different, but, uh, you know, I might not be that different. [00:18:57] Frank: Oh, it's going to be different in that. It's probably going to guarantee somewhat good framing. I've noticed this with Lumo. Loomo is my little segway with a robot computer at the top, and it has a wonder, it has like all of those drone modes follow you. Take pictures of me orbit around me, all that kind of stuff. And although it has an absolutely atrocious camera on it, it's the worst camera I've ever seen. It tends to take great photos because it does that. Automatic, you know, put my face in this location. If it sees a glare, it'll like reorient itself. So there's no glare. So again, I I'm being an optimist here. I'm thinking it's going to take some decent photos. [00:19:38] James: Yeah, I think so too. Or at least enough that if you're looking at them on your phone, it's going to be good enough, you know, in twenty twenty two, twenty twenty four, until our phones and our, well, the thing is your phones can't get that big so it can get crazy high resolution, but. Just not that big, you know, and to that point, right. I was looking a lot of cameras and I was looking at photos and I was doing comparisons of different cameras, like DSLRs and video footage from them. And people are doing a lot of comparison of 10 ADP versus 4k footage. And I'll tell you this much on my phone. I could not tell any difference. It's very minimal, but when I put it up on my big screen TV and you think you can tell the difference in quality. That's not where I'm going to be looking at this pixie footage, right? Like this pixie footage of my photos. I look at them on my camera, uh, for the, or my phone, I mean, most of the time. So I think the stuff that's going to come out of it is going to be perfect, obviously for snap, but also for viewing and sharing on Instagram and sending it via I message. Right. That type of stuff is going to be pretty great. [00:20:44] Frank: I'm just hoping it has like extreme zoom in. I want it like right in my face because there are no, [00:20:51] James: so let's, let's talk about everything is bad with this thing because okay. Here's my concerns. All right. Because you know, I, okay. So we were out w you know, we, you and I were out and flying our drones. Yes. And. Are, you know, your drones are half. The, my drone is, you know, it's twice the size plus of this round and it's got a big bite. It's got real [00:21:14] Frank: proprietary. I'd say those two fifties are a beautiful, sweet spot. If you haven't flown a drone before a go buy the $20 one first, get good at it and then go buy a two 50 gram good [00:21:25] James: size. Well, and I know I've bought the $20 ones and both the $20 ones and the, you know, 250 gram ones, uh, that I have. The DJ, the mini. You know, if that wind picks up Frank, um, those, like, I honestly, in my backyard, I had the mini tiny drone outside. I just having fun, like in the pandemic, I was like, we, and then it was a wind gust, just a small little breeze came up and the drone went woo. And like into my backyard. And, uh, I was like, Hey, can you go? He happened to be outside of, Hey, can you grab that for me? Sorry about that. And then I felt like an idiot, but I've, I've had this, um, my fear, right. I've never really had it happen. But my fear is I've seen videos where the wind picks up and your drone starts flying away from you. Right. And you got to have confidence in your drone, but I don't. Um, but it just lands somewhere. This thing, Frank weighs zero ounces pretty much. And as these tiny little propellers, my biggest fear. Is like a one mile per hour wind comes and blows this thing away. And I've, it's completely unusable in most scenarios. [00:22:41] Frank: You know, it's not a bad fear. I really can't come up with a counterargument. Uh, this is physics it's light. Those propellors are small, unless it has like super magic propellers that break the sound barrier and can still keep chopping wind. Yeah, there's just physical limitations here. I'm reminded one of my big ones is. Did I bring this one out? It's a hex. It's got six sets of propellers, carbon fiber, nine to 10 inch blades. Each, when you turn it on, it sounds like a lawn mower. It's going to murder you. It's it's fantastic though. But I remember trying to tune that out. And by tonight, I mean, you want it to hold position by itself. You don't want to be doing those micro adjustments and things like that. And so this is a big, heavy copter we've we've measured it, it can lift about like 14, 15 pounds. It's strong. It's strong James. The littlest gust of wind happened, the control system overcompensated. And I swear it was going to murder a whole population of people. It just took a sideways path. It corrected itself, but after about 10 feet, 10 feet of it would have murdered or whatever it was in that path at me. And so it's funny that like, yes. Okay. The little ones are scary because they can go flying away. But at least it's like a ha moment and what's it like box a kid in the head or something like that, but it is. It's plastic. It's very light plastic. This thing could hit you at full speed in a gust, and you'd be like, ouch, that tingled. So I'm not too worried from that in terms of injuring people, certainly it could get lost in a tree and Augusta could go over someone's fence. It could land on a roof. It can do all those things. But James, at least it's not going to murder the guts to flow. [00:24:26] James: That is, that is a hundred percent true, you know, and, and the verge, and I know wall street journal, they did videos on these and they said like, you can just run it into anything. Like, they're like, oh, I forgot. We forgot to set the distance. And it like ran into the wall and like bopped around. And it was a completely fine, which I think is absolutely hilarious and amazing. Uh, so that, that. Yeah. So I think that you'd have to just be cognizant of, could it fly away into a place where you can't get it, like, oh, now it's in the ocean and it's gone. So maybe that's the thing that maybe would change a little bit. [00:25:02] Frank: Yeah, the safety warning does say the user is committed to being responsible for his or her actions and all consequences arising there from [00:25:12] James: doing quick gas. Yeah. Yeah, I [00:25:14] Frank: know. But just a reminder. Well, now they're not going to be legally liable. [00:25:19] James: Here's the other thing. I feel is, is fascinating about this specific Durham, because, you know, I haven't really seen a drum like this, so I want to talk about it today and the implications that it has, because there's already a whole, you know, when you go to national parks, you go to state parks, you go to local, There's these huge signs that are like, drones are banned here, drones aloud. How they're all about the hate, it [00:25:42] Frank: what's with the feds and they're anti drone. I get it. One guy said to me, he's like, uh, it disturbs the peace and I was in a parking lot where someone was blasting the stereo in their car. But that's allowed, I can't fly my stupid little drone, but that guy can blast this stereo. So honestly, I think that's a lot of old generation being a little uptight and I predict a lot of that's going to be slowly moving away now before anyone yells at me. Yes, I do like the sanctity of a co quiet woods and all that stuff too. But there are plenty of those. We're talking about like monuments and junk. You just want to get some pictures up. [00:26:21] James: I mean, like, uh, give me like a drone zone, you know, uh, [00:26:26] Frank: 300 feet above here. [00:26:28] James: Yeah. And what I would say is this, you know, I would go even further. Imagine if I was in national parks or state parks and I had to had a, you know, if you're under 250 grams, like you. Ounces grams, whatever it is, you don't grant Gramps. You don't need to read, register your drone and get a license. I would say this listen, state parks, government. If you're listening to this podcast, I would be fine going through a course and a training thing to get like a little badge. And then in fact, you could charge me to fly my drone. If you want $5 to park, I'll give you $5 to fly my drone. I'll go and do a drone zone where I'm not allowed to go beyond different things. But like, let me go into mudra my drone zone and I'll pay you for that. Cause I want some cool footage. And then you can like, you know, custom tailor this zone to be where people aren't going to fly over people and it's already the law and that this is worth him. The next real point comes up is it's already the law that you, I can not take my drone and just fly it over Frank without Frank's permission. I'm not allowed to do that. Right. And then like the pixie here. There's a water, my obligations, and the pixie says you must follow local state federal laws, where you can find them who you can fly them over, where it can be flown. Um, which means that this drone, even though it's absolutely tiny, would fall into the same exact laws of my normal drone that can go thousands of feet into the air doesn't make any sense, but fascinating law, the laws around drones are crazy because let's say you're too close to. Uh, airport, right. Airports have crazy zones. And that makes a lot of sense. Right. But like this thing's going like 50 feet off the ground, just saying you put a balloon. [00:28:09] Frank: Cities have them too, but for other reasons, it's easy to lose signal. You can crash into a building very easily. So just too many obstacles. So I get it over cities. I do. Um, I vaguely get it over airports. I guess it's not good to have drones whacking into planes, even though they're playing would probably be fine. [00:28:28] James: It depends on the drone. [00:28:32] Frank: Um, yeah, but barring those, I don't think the pilots should have control of the air. Why? I mean, there's, it's, it's a little elitist, only people who are pilots get to enjoy the atmosphere. No, everyone should be able to enjoy the atmosphere. So let me fly my drone. Uh, I think my only concern is, again, those tiny little propellers they are gonna make. A bit of a, we, yeah. Are you going to buy one first or should I get one first? We'll find out how much of a, how much of a high pitched cry. It makes what [00:29:04] James: Fran. Yeah. I'm looking at a screen that says thank you for your. Well, [00:29:09] Frank: I, we have our answer folks. James is on it. James is on it like a new piece of Nintendo hardware. [00:29:14] James: It says my order will be delivered in September. [00:29:18] Frank: Oh, is it that long? We're doing a show about a project. No one can even get [00:29:22] James: sick. It says 16 to 17 [00:29:24] Frank: weeks. Oh, I can. Now I'm going to have to do mine, huh? Yeah, you might [00:29:28] James: as well. I'm I was thrown in the bag. [00:29:30] Frank: I bet. It's been actually a very long time since I bought a drone. I hadn't been using mine just like you. So the only reason I'm enticed here is because I think this could actually get me back into a little bit of drowning and I would love to get a few. I know you're not supposed to fly it over water, but this is Seattle. It's going over water. It's going to get some amazing shots. And if it falls in the water little pro tip to everyone, most of electronics can survive a little water. Don't take my word. Don't base your life on that answer, but a stupid little drone like this, it'll be fine. Just, you know, turn it off and try it off [00:30:03] James: right [00:30:04] Frank: now. Know if you have to do it depends on the motors. If these are DC motors, chances are, it could probably fly wet. It's really just their warranty telling you not to do that. Uh, if it's more sophisticated than there can be more problems when they get. I [00:30:20] James: think, I think the reason why we both need to buy it is because I'm pretty sure that I need to buy it just to like, you know, use it normal usage. You need to buy it because you need to. Yeah, I can see what's inside of it. [00:30:35] Frank: They actually had a few pictures of the circuit board. I was already kind of staring at it, trying to see what software they run, because there are a lot of good open source softwares. Now are, do you pilot, have you heard of that one? Uh, it's based on they call it Arduino pilot. It used to be called, but now it's RG pilot and that one is used in the DIY community. I mean, even when you're making robots, people will use this just cause it's, uh, it's a prebuilt flight controller. Pre-bill way planner, all that kind of stuff. So I'm really curious if, um, snap and pixie drew from that, or if they just started from scratch, it's not rocket science. It's it's aeronautics. So you totally can start from scratch, but, um, it would be smarter to adopt an open source project. So I would be curious to see that element. [00:31:23] James: Yeah, that makes sense. Well, I've locked it in. I'm super excited about it and we'll see what happens. Yeah. I'm, I'm, I'm about it. You know, we'll give an update in, I guess, six to 16 to 17 weeks, but, uh, I'm excited about it. I think that this will be really cool. You know, there's a business expense anyway, so just write it off business expense. Oh yeah, I do in a product review for the. [00:31:46] Frank: Oh, excellent. That is exactly what I will tell my CPA. Write those words down. [00:31:54] James: Exactly. Uh, well, let us know what you think of the pixie. Uh, feel free to head over to merge conflict out FM or tweet at us at merge conflict. FM hit us up in our. Or either of us on Twitter as well. If you really want to see Frank busted open and take a look at what's inside the pixel, I'm sure someone will do, like, I fix it, we'll do it, but you know yeah. But you can get in and you can solder stuff and then you get like, really you put it out of something. We never get it back together. That's true. Yeah. I don't, I don't see any screws, so I don't know exactly what they're doing. Magic plastic magic. Oh, okay, good. Good. But then you're good to go. Yeah. It's probably, it's probably like a key weighing or try tip or something. So you're not going to [00:32:31] Frank: hammer can't fix, eh, exactly. [00:32:37] James: What would be cool is if it was see-through now that would be really cool. I mean, yeah. [00:32:41] Frank: Then you can put LEDs in it. It's maybe they can't waste the power on led. [00:32:45] James: Here's the thing. Gadget makers, everything is better transplant. [00:32:52] Frank: We grew up in the nineties. We prefer a transparent. [00:32:54] James: Oh yeah. Remember the Nintendo 64. Is that ever? See-through amazing. Remember all the alarm [00:32:58] Frank: clocks, everything was back [00:32:59] James: then. Everything's better when you can see through it and you can see all this stuff, everybody do that. Like it's every, it's just so much better. All of it. There's transplant. Translucent plastic for a reason. It can't, maybe it does cost more, but you know, it's cheap. [00:33:16] Frank: It's cheap. Black plastic is naturally translucent. We have to dye it to give it color. It's [00:33:21] James: ridiculous. I know [00:33:23] Frank: the world's against. [00:33:25] James: Yeah. All right, well, that's gonna do it for this week's merge conflict and our drone special edition report, 2022. Let us know what you think at a bridge company, that event, but that's gonna do it. So until next time, I'm James about the Magno and I'm Frank [00:33:35] Frank: Krueger. Thanks for listening.