00:00:01.37 Fireheart Media Hey, hey, y'all. My name is Jala and I'm joined by Dave and we're following Arnie's movie career film by film. Our first episode covered Hercules in New York. 00:00:13.40 Fireheart Media Now that we've had some time to let that sink in and settle, what are your retrospective thoughts about Hoik? So I I said it when we were recorded, but I really enjoyed this film. 00:00:27.45 Fireheart Media But having had a few weeks to like let it percolate, I honestly don't remember much of what happened. However, Arnold Stang's performance as Prezi has and will forever, I think, live rent-free in my head. And I just know day to day when I'm feeling down, all I need to do is step away for a little bit and eat an apple and everything will be all right. 00:00:57.53 Fireheart Media Yeah, I have to say Arnold Stang really just stole the show for me. And like there's other moments in the movie that are fun and, you know, it's worth rewatching for me as well. But like it's really Arnold Stang show for me. Like Pretzi has come up in day to day conversation a lot. Yeah. And we have quoted Pretzi lot. 00:01:22.68 Fireheart Media And so Pretzi lives on in our hearts forever from this point. So I feel what that means to me is that it would be worth ah the time it would take to go through and look at what else Arnold Sting has done, not on this podcast, but like just for our own edification at a later date. 00:01:41.94 Fireheart Media So that that's what I think about that. Anyway, so How are you doing today, Dave? I'm doing pretty good, though. The weather has perked back up unseasonably warm as it is wont, so it's actually kind of warm today. it was colder in the morning than we anticipated, but by and large, it's... ah I feel bad. It's it was refreshing to see that we aren't having avalanches strike us down. um But unfortunately for other folks, the winter has just sort of done a second swing in a lot of ah lot of people. um 00:02:22.25 Fireheart Media But yeah, it's just kind of cold in the morning and hot in the afternoon here by many, many degrees. And it's kind of exhausting, to be honest. Like, I don't know, I just get tired of taking on and off ah hoodies and changing from long pants to shorts to go back and forth. And like, I just can the weather just pick a lane. That'd be great. um Otherwise, though, yeah, I'm doing okay. It's I don't know, it's, it's been pretty stressful lately. So I will say that this this podcast in particular, 00:02:59.02 Fireheart Media there's no bad time to watch an Arnold Schwarzenegger film. And particularly if you're feeling a little bit down, he's always there to lift us back up. 00:03:10.71 Fireheart Media All you have to do is think of me and I'll be in your heart forever. like Or whatever it is he said in the Hercules in New York film. For sure. For sure. So ah real quick, Dave, is this too loud? Are going lower that? 00:03:26.52 Fireheart Media No, it's fine. Okay. Just want to make sure. I put a marker. So yeah, as for me, I have to kind of echo a lot of that in part because, oh, you know, we live in the same place. 00:03:39.22 Fireheart Media But for my day-to-day living, yeah, ah it's been stressful, but it's kind of like that way that it gets when the holidays are over and you pass through the January blues or whatever, and then now you get back into, oh yeah, now everything's got to go back into the normal grind. 00:03:59.51 Fireheart Media Oh, oh. And the other largely positive note about watching these films, even, well, particularly these early ones, ah because this is this is Arnie in his unarguable prime. He's coming off of the Mr. Universe circuit. And so he's just in in winning tip-top shape for these movies. 00:04:25.98 Fireheart Media And we're just sort of getting back to the gym. We're trying to get some motivation. And every time I put on one of these films, it's really just, man, I should also be lifting. Should i curl like while I'm watching this movie? well i Will feel even better? you know get those endorphins pumping? ah So just that sort of secondhand inspiration, um and in particular with the movie we're covering today, is just it's just... 00:04:51.64 Fireheart Media real strong right now and you know what a way to take to kick off this part of the year um but with some extra motivation 00:05:02.71 Fireheart Media Right, right. So um definitely watching Arnie movies is always just inspirational for a lot of different reasons. Like, ah i don't know that most people who listen to this will know offhand, but like when it comes to like my gym spiration, I never pick ladies. I always pick guys. though Those are my gymspiration. just want to be as big as Arnold. but Like that's not going to realistically happen without a lot of supplementation and stuff. But in either case, so, so yeah, like, uh, 00:05:39.10 Fireheart Media insofar as when this movie came out. So we are talking today about Stay Hungry, which is a film that is one of the two films that Arnie did in the 70s that is considered to be part of what really brought bodybuilding into the main public sphere, where public consciousness becomes more aware of bodybuilding as a sport, 00:06:02.75 Fireheart Media And also Arnold Schwarzenegger himself is brought into the limelight so that people know who he is and what he was doing. So Mr. Olympia, all of that stuff was going on in the 70s. Like his first attempt was in... ah 69 and he was going on in 75 the filmmakers persuaded Arnie to compete again and film his training on the bodybuilding documentary called pumping iron so um that was going on in 75 this stay hungry is a 1976 film so it's happening basically concurrently with him doing like prepping for pumping iron and doing all of that and um 00:06:49.08 Fireheart Media You know, so it was interesting, though, because ah Arnie had only three months to prepare for the competition because he lost significant weight in order to appear in Stay Hungry. 00:06:59.86 Fireheart Media So he dropped a lot of weight to do this film that we're going to be talking about today, which is kind of interesting. So ah even though he was lighter than usual, just by the way, he ended up winning his title again when he went to Mr. Olympia and beat Franco Colombo, who also appears in Stay Hungry, uncredited, but he's there. And so ah I'm just saying all of this, because right after that contest, he announced his retirement from professional bodybuilding after he'd been high on. Of course, he did later, for anybody who knows about Arnie's bodybuilding career, he does come out of retirement later to show everybody again 1980. No, I still got it don't challenge me or you know I'll show you up again. You know, that kind of thing. So all of this is important because the film that we're talking about today is ah really kind of bodybuilding centric in some ways, even though it's also about a bunch of other things at the same time. 00:08:01.11 Fireheart Media So um just keep this context in mind when we talk about it. So this is a 1976 film, Stay Hungry. And it's a screenplay that was written by Charles Gaines based on the novel by the same name that he wrote. 00:08:19.16 Fireheart Media And the story centers on a young scion from Birmingham, Alabama, played by Jeff Bridges, who gets involved in a shady real estate deal. And in order to close that deal, he needs to buy a gym ah building to complete a multi-parcel lot. 00:08:36.18 Fireheart Media And he becomes romantically interested in the gym's receptionist, who is played by Sally Field, and is drawn into the carefree lifestyle of the Austrian bodybuilder, wait for his name, Joe Santo. 00:08:51.19 Fireheart Media The most Austrian name possible. Yeah, who Joe is training. now He's there at that gym training for Mr. Universe competition. It's Mr. Olympia in the film. Schwarzenegger won the Golden Globe for Best Acting Debut in a motion picture, but as we know, it was not his true debut role which he in which he had played Hercules in the 1970 Hercules in New York. 00:09:21.84 Fireheart Media um He was also a gangster's henchman in Robert Altman's 1973 film The Long Goodbye and a masseur in the 1974 television movie Happy Anniversary and Goodbye. 00:09:35.13 Fireheart Media Right, right. So i just have to come back to this name thing because something that's true of Arnie movies is no matter what, no matter what his character is, he never gets an Austrian sounding name ever. And in this movie, this this movie is interesting because it's got a lot of fictionalized elements, but it also has some of Arnie's actual life experiences. mixed in and fictionalized. So, you know, the, the character of Joe Santo, who is the character that Arnie's playing, who's training for this Mr. Olympia competition, he was brought over from Austria by this gym owner named Thor. 00:10:15.80 Fireheart Media And you know, he has a lot of similarities in some of the planning and the role that this this character of Thor takes for Joe Santo. Like, all of that kind of mimics that of Joe Weider. So, um who is the guy who ran Gold's Gym and also had a lot to do with all of the bodybuilding stuff and brought up Arnie over and all that. Like, all of those things are in here. There's even, in the Mr. Olympia competition, in the movie... 00:10:46.63 Fireheart Media There's Franco Colombo, who is Franco Orsini, I think is what they call him in it. And he's just like on stage posing and stuff. And he's in the competition, too. And like there's other things like that where it's actually referencing stuff that actually happened to Arnie in his real life that was, you know, thrown into this movie. But people back then I don't think would be privy to those details. 00:11:10.33 Fireheart Media No, they most likely wouldn't have known them, but the ah the author and screenwriter for the film, Charles Gaines, he's pushing for this... um it's not even a resurgence. He's pushing for like the first wave of trying to get bodybuilding into mainstream. And he's looking at a lot of other themes that he's concerned with and that are important, but that seems to be like the secondary mission of this film. And then the primary mission of pumping iron, which comes just slightly after this. So he's working in tandem with Arnold to 00:11:53.85 Fireheart Media put bodybuilding on the map to foster acceptance of it, um, in the mainstream and to sort of like use this particular film to generate, um, interest appeal, and also to kind of start to remove some of the stigmas that, uh, were in the public consciousness at the time in the seventies, um, surrounding, uh, bodybuilding culture in general. 00:12:22.55 Fireheart Media Right. So a couple of notes about the author, Charles Gaines. So ah he also wrote a book called Pumping Iron, which, of course, is in he wrote the screenplay for um Pumping Iron as well. So he did two books and two screenplays to help Arnie get bodybuilding really out there. And also another detail is that in this movie, the way that things wrap up for Arnold's character of Joe Santo, um the he ends up. 00:12:53.24 Fireheart Media at the end of the film, and this is kind of bearing the lead, I guess, by talking about it now, but I wanted to talk about it in relation to this because of the biopic elements of it. um So he ends up going into opening a series of gyms and managing and owning gyms. And this is something that Joe Weider had wanted to do with Arnold Schwarzenegger in actual life. But then Arnie said, no, I want to get into the movies more and I want to do more movie stuff. and turned away from that path. But in this movie here, Stay Hungry, that's what his character of Joe Santo ends up doing. So it's kind of like this alternate timeline where ah where Arnie did, in fact, get into the gym business, which is kind of interesting. So, um, also a random note about Charles Gaines. 00:13:39.29 Fireheart Media He co-founded, co-created paintball. I don't know. I just looked it up and I found it on Wikipedia and I'm like, that's weird. But he also has been like a writer for like sports magazines and things like that for like a long time. So, uh, he's been into sports for, for a number of years and everything. The original novel of Stay Hungry, by the way, if when you're listening to this, you are interested in checking out that original novel, um it is very much out of print. The last time it was in print was in 85 and it goes for exorbitant rates out there. Like ah a a paperback copy is like $88 for a mass market. 00:14:19.35 Fireheart Media However, It is available on the internet archive. So I have put a link in the show notes so that you can go check that out. It's 276 pages. Not going to take you a lot of time to read that. So cool, cool, cool. 00:14:33.98 Fireheart Media Dave, how about you tell us about the Metacritic? Sure. So the Metacritic on this was a ah like a flat 60. It's right in the middle of the road. um At the time when it came out, we have a rating of 75 from Roger Ebert um in the Chicago Sun-Times. Roger Ebert says, one of the best things about Stay Hungry is that we have almost no idea where it's going. 00:15:02.05 Fireheart Media Right. It's as free form as Nashville and Raffleson is cheerly cheerfully willing to pause here and there for set pieces. We can agree with that. ah TV Guide Magazine gives it also a 75, saying, filled with interesting characters and strong performances, Stay Hungry not only makes its point about class prejudice, but presents a detailed portrait of Southern country club culture and the body bodybuilding milieu that would so deftly be captured in Schwarzenegger's next film, the fine documentary Pumping Iron. 00:15:33.08 Fireheart Media Right. And there's like a ah several other really positive reviews out there. The people who had negative things to say primarily were looking at this movie and going, There was a plot and I don't know what happened. They forgot about the plot because this is really more of a character study. It's ah a series of character sketches about very interesting and engaging characters that you like to spend time with and you let them breathe and just live their lives. And... 00:16:03.06 Fireheart Media you get like life lessons out of it and you just kind of follow like this narrative of these different characters as they go about their, their day-to-day life in Alabama during an era. You know um it's, it's an interesting thing that I feel like it probably works better in the book because in a novel or a book format, you are given more leeway in terms of, 00:16:31.35 Fireheart Media You know, like it doesn't have to be necessarily a cohesive narrative of a story going beginning to end or whatever. It can be a book about literally anything. It can be a series of character studies, and that is an acceptable format for a book to be in. 00:16:47.00 Fireheart Media However, when it comes to cinema, That's weird and experimental, really. And so I can understand why it doesn't get you know super high ratings because it's a little bit weird of a format for this kind of thing. Like if you go into this movie and you're expecting it to have like this this plot that you can follow, good luck. 00:17:08.34 Fireheart Media Good luck. ah Ebert was right when he's like, you know It's got its set pieces ah and there's no problem just wandering off into a set piece, letting these characters live and breathe and have their lives because that's really what it's about. 00:17:24.73 Fireheart Media yeah It's too to kind of go with Ebert's um review is that the film itself, it is meandering, but it's meandering in the way that did taking a like lazy stroll on a riverbank or just in a boat on the water fishing on and off uh you know i don't know a Sunday morning and you're just enjoying the time and the there's no it's about the journey and not the destination doesn't really matter where you end up at the end of the day but that you had a good time like while you were just 00:18:07.86 Fireheart Media passing the day along and that's how this movie feels it's a breath of fresh air in something that otherwise would just be 00:18:21.66 Fireheart Media like ah just a drama like it's a drama the film itself is a drama it's an action movie but it has some highs and lows, some divergences, but ultimately it's about the characters and this kind of, it's a slice of life. Like literally it's, it's a chunk taken out of these folks lives. And it's all about like who you met along the way and what, what those meetings ill-fated or otherwise kind of led you to do along the way. And, and, and, 00:18:53.90 Fireheart Media helped you understand a little bit more about yourself and that's what the characters go through so there is character growth there's downfalls there's rising motions it has all the things you need um you just have to be comfortable in like letting it bring you to those moments and there's no there's no hurry to get there absolutely So ah overall, before we get into the nitty gritty of just the play by play, I would say like I really enjoyed this movie. I think it's overall still a better movie than Hercules in New York. um 00:19:37.08 Fireheart Media I want to say that these characters feel more charming in a lot of ways than Pretzi in that they feel like real lived people like real world lived in characters lived in experiences ah more down to earth than this fanciful character of Pretzi who is fun just because it's this outsized exaggeration of an archetype 00:20:08.28 Fireheart Media Yeah, with Prezi, I mean, I think we actually questioned um in the last episode, like how, you know, realistically, how is he making his living? You know, what does his day look like? Because we're not given that. He's all over the place. But in this, you're catching a moment in people's lives. You see... 00:20:28.09 Fireheart Media not every moment of their you know waking day, but you get a pretty good idea of how they get by. And you know we see them at work, we see them at leisure, and some of them we see at home. And all of those things feel written, ah if not from experience, at least from like, I known someone like this. And you can kind of identify uh, more or less with most of the cast in as much as like, yes, they're, they feel like they're fleshed out as much as you're going to get with like this style of slice of life. 00:21:05.08 Fireheart Media And fun fact, among the various people in this movie, we have Robert Englund, who is Freddy Krueger. He's in this movie. He's not playing a serial killer. So we have that going for us. So, um yeah, overall, it's not like I'm disparaging Pretzi, mind you. I just mean that these characters feel like more immediately relatable, whereas Pretzi is fun as an idea. 00:21:32.66 Fireheart Media and that's really where I'm going with that. But yeah, let's kick this movie off. So we open at a house where we have Craig, main character played by Jeff Bridges, on a horse idly wandering through a creek. And good God, the southern belle is strong with this one as he writes a letter. He's writing to his uncle Albert. 00:21:56.09 Fireheart Media who is a character that is most of the time just ah communicating via writing, but then ends up showing up later in the film for some really important moments. 00:22:07.51 Fireheart Media And Uncle Albert, we get um we he does show up later in the film, but we get his letters as like voiceovers a few times in the in the narrative. And um just listening to him, his cadence is you're getting a strong Samuel Clements feel. And then you see him and go, oh, there is he is, Mark Twain. 00:22:32.76 Fireheart Media is As I live and breathe. And by that, you just mean like the sound of his voice, not his satire or sarcasm, because he's 100% genuine in his portrayal of things. And um he does maybe crack a joke once or twice and in some kind of a style similar to that, but he's not um Mark Twain-ish in terms of, you know, like the comedy aspects. Yeah. 00:23:01.85 Fireheart Media No, no. It's just like they found a guy or made him up to look like, oh, we need a Southern gentleman. And the one everyone knows is you know Mark Twain. So they gave him that style of mustache and whatnot. 00:23:15.74 Fireheart Media Right. So, ah anyway, he's writing a letter kind of talking about stuff relating to like his parents have passed and he's come back home and all this other stuff. Then we switched to two people talking on a CB radio about getting some tail and they're driving badly. and they're, they're headed for this retail or not retail. Um, 00:23:40.70 Fireheart Media real estate meeting where they are supposed to, um, you know, like be big players in this new real shady real estate deal. That's going down to, I think, built like an office building or something. Yeah. They want to set up a high rise, 00:23:57.24 Fireheart Media I think it's a business or a hotel or some sort, doesn't really matter. It's a chain of something, or I mean, it's ah it's a building of something that's going to um push out the local businesses um for their own ends. They just wanna make money. 00:24:11.96 Fireheart Media And to do that, they have to like disenfranchise and or buy out the people that are owning the businesses in the location before they can level it and build their casino. 00:24:23.51 Fireheart Media And you know what's interesting is that back in this era and in the 80s as well, you see a lot of movies that have this kind of theme to them when it comes to real estate stuff, because that was a thing that was going on. And these days we feel like it's just a matter of course because that crap happens constantly. nowadays but back then it was like a source of public outrage and so as much as like with our 2026 eyes looking at this film it's like yeah that's a thing that happens that's you know par for the course for when they're developing an area or whatever Like, you know, it's not something that we really bat an eyelash at, but back then this was a massive deal because this was compromising these people's livelihoods and everything. And, you know, like it was upsetting everything, but it wasn't yet ah part of just part and parcel of how the world worked back then, you know? 00:25:19.35 Fireheart Media Yeah. And so that makes the framing when you're watching this, um even though it's decades removed from present day, it's all understandable. um You can understand everyone's motivations very easily, like off the bat, like hardly anyone you're looking at them going i don't know what they're doing now we may not know where the movie's going because it's a lot of threads are being dropped and it's again like i said it's just slice of life so the plot does get lost uh in the sauce 00:25:51.13 Fireheart Media And then it resurfaces every now and then and go, okay, there's the real estate issue again. But that's not like really the point of the movie. And the point of the movie more is on um Craig Blake's character and and what he's doing with his life because he's Craig Blake of the Blake Blakes, basically. 00:26:15.38 Fireheart Media The blankety blanks. Well, anyway. So, ah then we switch into a boardroom where everybody in there is a jump scare. Like, they're all freaking scary looking individuals. Like, We're talking like the 70s bad teeth and face crags and like wild. Like, I don't know how people came about that look like this once upon a time, but there was a whole room of jump scares. And also everybody dressed really loudly and also really badly. 00:26:51.67 Fireheart Media The fashion is not on point on this ah for the bad guys, for sure. um And because it's the South, everyone is all the time glistening with stale sweat. It's just not a fantastic look. um But you know what are you going to do? that's It's humid there. That's how it is in in Bama. 00:27:17.05 Fireheart Media but um yeah they picked uh to usher back to you know this having really nothing to do with Hercules in New York aside from both being an Arnie vehicle um the some of the uh casting like the tufts in Hercules in New York like they picked the most like the casting department was on point picking those dudes that are like, these guys are obviously with the mafia. And then everyone here is like, these guys are definitely smarmy used car salesmen, businessmen. You can't let mistake them. from They're not playing against type at all. 00:27:55.61 Fireheart Media like there's a moment later we'll discuss it, which is very fun. But for the most part, you look at these guys and what you see is what you get. Right, right. So we get it set up where basically in order to join the club of the cool real estate people who aren't cool at all, ah Craig Blake has to buy a gym that is on this block that's the last piece of land they need in order to complete this multi-parcel massive lot so they can build their high rise or their, ah I think it's an office. 00:28:27.95 Fireheart Media So anyway, to build some office building or something like that, but they have to go in there and be all, like the thing that makes it a shady deal is the fact that like they're coming in there under other pretenses, you know, not because they're putting forth, oh, we would like to build a massive office building and take this building out, you know, like it's not that kind of a deal. It's, oh, I'm going to come in here and I think I'd like to go into the gym business, you know, that kind of thing. And that's ah a whole different series of things. Anyway, so um at that point, we follow Craig as he goes into the gym. 00:29:04.41 Fireheart Media And so the sign for the gym is talking about Mr. Austria, Joe Santo, Mr. Austria is training at this this facility. they call it a spa because back then, gym wasn't like the only word you would use for something like this. And like when you first get the shots of the interior of the spa, it's like, some random ladies doing like weird things on weird machines. And that's the kind of thing that was actually going on in women's gyms in the fifties and sixties. Like when those things occurred, like you go look that up on the internet, you will find some wild videos of some of the nonsense that was going on for some of that. But, um, 00:29:44.12 Fireheart Media there is a character Robert Englund plays and he is like one of the guys that works at the gym and he's like, Oh, I will take you around and show you around. You're interested in a gym membership. You look like you kind of work out or something. You look kind of fit, you know? Oh, well there's some guys that come in late at night and they do some lifting, you know? So there's this real serious guys or whatever. yeah, 00:30:08.02 Fireheart Media so Meanwhile, Craig, he looks around the place and he makes a business proposition to Thor. And then Thor picks him up and cracks his back because he says business causes a bunch of tension. And then from there, we just kind of switch to a scene of the weightlifters at the gym that evening that were mentioned earlier in the film. So um how about you talk a little bit about like that scene with Thor? Because that plays out real weird. 00:30:37.88 Fireheart Media Yes. So Craig comes back to go um or no so we would do with Thor. Yeah. So when he's talking to Thor initially, he's he keeps trying to bring up business. Like, I want to make you a business offer. He can't get one word past that. 00:30:58.46 Fireheart Media like you know one more phrase out of his mouth because Thor's like groping him and checking his musculature and he's just like yeah oh yeah you got you're a little guy but you got something we can work with and um and he's yeah he's just real handsy ah and he's wearing like a pantsuit and he has the best or worst toupee you've ever seen it's pretty bad but i mean you can tell this guy like he he's he gives that so he's uh the owner but he's also like a personal trainer and he definitely gives the like 00:31:38.26 Fireheart Media high school coach that used to be like an Olympic champion, but that was 50 years ago. And so he's still solid, but he's not training anymore. 00:31:49.94 Fireheart Media Like this, that's not what his thing is. He's just like in it for the money or I just want to like apparently Google the lady clientele. 00:32:00.76 Fireheart Media that show up. So yeah, the, um, Craig isn't able to like really get a word in edgewise and he sort of gets, I really feel like he gets to run around and gets suckered into being like a member of the gym when he's trying to be there on business. And then he just kind of gives up and he's like, well, if I'm on the inside, I'll get to talk to these guys more often than maybe, 00:32:26.10 Fireheart Media show my plan that way once I can curry some favor, um which prompts him to show up later at night because he realizes that or he gets special info from Robert Englund that Joe Santo is secretly training for the upcoming Mr. Olympia. 00:32:48.28 Fireheart Media So on that note, that night, but ah we cut to the weightlifters at the gym and Arnie, AKA Joe Santo has a mask and a cape on and somebody else is drumming while he's lifting weights and they're hanging out in a circle and just like cheering and goofing off. And then Arnie is just lifting, lifting weights constantly in the middle of all of these people. And, uh, 00:33:19.40 Fireheart Media allegedly he's wearing a mask and cape so people won't know that he is entering the competition if they go into the gym and happen to see him because they won't know who he is They won't tell that he's Mr. Austria or anything like that. 00:33:34.58 Fireheart Media and that's the reason that we are given initially for this and of course uh put a pin in that we will circle back to that a little bit later anyway joe santo this guy who's wearing the mask and cape gives craig some shit and then they all go out and play pool so basically craig is there and he starts trying to lift and stuff and the guys in general are giving him shit oh you lifting those little girly weights or whatever and you know, um, then Arnie's like, Oh yeah, you know, you must've used to play whatever. And he's like, it was lacrosse, but I could see how you would be confused. And they were just, you know, BSing back and forth. So the, the guys are basically given, um Craig some, some shit for his, like he's, he, he does have little tiny weights, baby weights, but, um, Joe kind of like tells the guys to back down and he's like, no, no, he's like, 00:34:30.20 Fireheart Media i so I was watching him and his form is good. He's, you know, he's putting in the effort. It doesn't matter like what the weight is at this point. He's like, he's doing it and he's, you know, he'll get somewhere because he's, you know, making an effort to try. 00:34:43.70 Fireheart Media Um, and then of course, yeah, that, that, that outfit is like, it's a lot. It's, it's like a Phantom of the Opera luchador. Like, I don't, I don't know what they got. They grabbed it from costume supply or something. It's very weird. It was very hot that he was sitting, it's sitting in there, but he's like curling and pressing with, I don't know, 135, just like just doing sets like easy. 00:35:10.42 Fireheart Media So he's just, he's massive. It's ridiculous. And that's after he lost weight. But anyway, so ah part of the thing, though, is that um He ends up while he's you know, he is ribbing ah Jeff Bridges character of Craig. But at the same time, he's also training him. Arnie was teaching him and like showing him how to do some lifting and stuff like that but also doing his own sets and things and then after they're all done for the night they go out to play pool 00:36:15.73 Fireheart Media And then Robert Englund's, you know, character ends up telling Craig about how many things that Joe Santo does. He's basically the guy that can do everything. He's a Renaissance man and he can, can do whatever it is that you do. And so it gets to the point where it's like, well, what doesn't he do? You know, um, very much like the Chuck Norris meme before Chuck Norris became a meme, you know? um But yeah, like ah some of these lines are really something. So there is a point where um I think it's Robert Englund's character ends up making ah a fancy shot or something. And then some other guy says, you got a hot stick, my man, very hot, which 00:37:02.68 Fireheart Media I understand it's about pool. It does not sound like it's about pool. And then the best line in maybe the entire movie is when ah Sally Field, who plays the receptionist lady, um Mary Tate, she is out there on the dance floor and she drags Craig out there and they start dancing together. And then she says, you look like a swamp. 00:37:27.61 Fireheart Media And then goes off to talk about like her, his blonde hair and blue eyes. And I'm like, I don't understand how this is like a swamp. But anyway, she's like, I really like the way you look. And then, you know, she's flirting with him, but she starts by saying, you look like a swamp. And then from then on, the rest of the movie, his nickname is Swamp. 00:37:49.66 Fireheart Media What? so I just, I don't know. We were, it's of a time. This is one of the few ones where it's like, oh, we weren't alive yet. um But. 00:38:02.46 Fireheart Media I have never heard in my my years of life that Swamp was a positive nickname or way to refer to it. I don't think I've heard anyone use that negatively against someone. like You just don't do that. 00:38:19.10 Fireheart Media ah But if you're a Sally Field, you can. And if you're Jeff Bridges, you just take that with a plume and roll with it. And he doesn't ever... He doesn't seem offended. He's just like, he rolls with it. And then he's just like, i just got I guess I'm swamped now. 00:38:33.27 Fireheart Media Just to her. It's very funny. And it keeps happening. And I had thought it was a one-off until like late much later in the movie where she's just talking to him casually. Hey, swamp, come on. Let's go do it. He's like, okay. I guess that's just what it is now. 00:38:49.02 Fireheart Media And so that's part and parcel of like the... 00:39:01.23 Fireheart Media that's part and parcel of the reality of like these characters. And then everything just seems natural and they just roll with stuff. And it's like, you don't, in in real life, you don't question things like that. It's just, it just occurs naturally. And yeah, you may have objections, but that can just be a thing. You just, that's the way you got a nickname. And now it makes for a funny story. Oh, my, I met my girlfriend at a, a bar and we were shooting pool and she called me swamp and nuts. I'm swamp now. 00:39:31.70 Fireheart Media you know Right. So at some point or another, one of the people who's in the bar turns to Craig and is like, hey, you guys are all pretty big. Do you play football or something? And Craig's like, yeah, sure we do. We play for whatever team. Yeah. All this other mess. And um so he says, oh, yeah, yeah, that's what I play. and And, you know, whatever. And then moves on and just dismisses it because, you know, he's not supposed to let anybody know that they're training for this bodybuilding competition. So he just lies. So, so yeah, we play football, whatever. 00:40:08.25 Fireheart Media But then later on, those same guys come back and like this, this is like definitely Southern people who are into American football levels of, of bullshit. 00:40:19.64 Fireheart Media They come back and they get mad because ah they're like, you lied. That's not, you don't play ball. I've never heard of this person like that or that position. I forget what position he said. 00:40:31.73 Fireheart Media it was something weird. yeah. the shit kicker or something don't know he made up something and but i think it's ah it must have be a nickname for a position because the gentleman that took umbrage with this was like I've gone to every game that team has had and I've never seen you or heard this name and they don't got no one in that position that looks like you So they were super pissed. And then he's even trying to like, look, man, I was, I was just having a goof, you know, what is it? What does it matter? And then it's like, you can't lie to us about football. and 00:41:10.04 Fireheart Media then shit goes down. Specifically because Robert Englund's character is like, oh man, it's okay. It's okay. Then, bam! Like, you know, punches the guy in the stomach and then starts wailing on him and pulls his shirt over his head and does all this mess. So, um anyway, they get into a big brawl and then we cut to... 00:41:33.34 Fireheart Media ah Craig in the bathroom who has a bleeding ear after this fight. And then Joe Santos shows up. This is Arnie. Arnie comes in and he's like, what happened? Oh yeah. You know, like that'll be okay. And sorry, I wasn't here basically because, you know, like he because he's training for Mr. Olympia, he's not drinking. So like he wasn't in the bar yet. He was probably finishing up whatever training he was doing at the gym. So, ah but he goes in and he checks on him. 00:42:04.34 Fireheart Media And then after that, we skip to the next day where um Craig is at his house and we have Robert Englund's character with him hanging out. 00:42:15.38 Fireheart Media And, um you know, like they're hanging out for a little bit at ah Craig's house. And then Robert Englund's character just basically sees how big this house really is. 00:42:27.16 Fireheart Media Then we cut to another day after that where Craig is hanging out with people at the country club. And so while he's at the country club, we get to see some of his retinue, which includes how, which is his friend. That's also in the shady deal with him. 00:42:44.32 Fireheart Media And he's just checking up on, oh, well, what's going on? And he's like, man, it's taking some time to get this club, whatever. Because he's trying to cover up for the fact, Craig is, that he hasn't finished the deal yet and bought this place so they can move on with life. And then we also see a lady who we later end up seeing because she throws a big party. And she's talking about, oh, Craig, I need you to find a music act for me for my show. for Not much for my show, for my party. So I need you to find a music act for my party. 00:43:18.49 Fireheart Media And I'm sure you can come up with something great. And then somebody else is like, oh yeah, Craig knows all the weirdos. Like they're already giving him a lot of crap for just being different than the other people at the country club. 00:43:33.59 Fireheart Media So... 00:43:38.42 Fireheart Media Yeah. And so after that, we head back to the gym and we find out that Joe Santo is training with Thor and Thor has been having a few day drinks and he's kind of pissy when, um, 00:43:54.36 Fireheart Media Craig comes in and then he, Craig is in and he wants to start trying to talk business, but um Thor's, he's been drinking. 00:44:06.01 Fireheart Media And ah Joe is like, hey, he's been drinking, you know, you hang out with me for a little bit. And then he gets like a personal training session um Although Thor keeps poking his head out going, you better be doing your your reps. you know ah Joe, you can't don't like don't I can't have you, Craig, making him slack off if he's just chatting with you. He needs to actually be, you know he's training for the competition. 00:44:35.30 Fireheart Media Thor at one point comes out and he's all pissy and he's like, you know, Joe, they don't judge based on lip muscles because all Joe is doing is, is talking. He goes, yeah, thighs, arms, back. yeah No lips though. 00:44:54.62 Fireheart Media It's, it's, it's the most, it's you very sassy. It's pretty great. it's a Yeah. Yeah. It's like quit, quit yapping, get to lift it. Well, and Craig asks why Joe was in a cape and mask. And then Joe says, I think it's funny. That's all. 00:45:13.02 Fireheart Media And he said that he was training in a frog suit the year before, which is absolutely hilarious. And also apropos to the current moment where we have People ah resisting ice and such wearing frog suits. 00:45:26.55 Fireheart Media So yes, Arnie was training in a frog suit, at least according to this, which makes me wonder if he really did train in some silly stuff at the gym when he was training like for reals. I can believe it, particularly when we get around to watching pumping iron. 00:45:43.03 Fireheart Media Right. So then while they're talking a little bit more, Joe says that he doesn't really care about the titles, but he needs to win the competition so he can make money to pay Thor back for bringing him from Austria. And again, like he's an Austrian guy. They underline that. 00:46:01.98 Fireheart Media And he still has a name like Joe Santo, which is absolutely not Austrian. It's very silly. So then we cut to Craig Joe Sally Field's character of Mary Tate and then some lady that Craig brought along hanging out together. This is like a day trip that they take together. The lady friend of Craig is a lady named Dorothy who's like an upper class person that he's kind of dated it seems like off and on although I don't think that they're currently dating at this time. 00:46:33.24 Fireheart Media And this is the same situation we learn eventually that Joe and Mary Tate have where they used to live together. They used to be a couple, but they're not a couple now. So these two sets of people who used to be couples are not couples now. And they're all hanging out together, having weird, you know, sexy energy between different mixtures of people. yeah. 00:46:57.91 Fireheart Media Yeah. Yeah, it the scene itself feels like, oh, if this was the 60s, this is going to be a swinging party. And it it just so it just turns into these switching pairs. So who you know they don't they don't leave with who they showed up with um at this party. They both swap the pairs that they came to the river with. 00:47:26.46 Fireheart Media So Dorothy is talking to Joe and she's asking if everybody in bodybuilding is homosexual, basically. Well, she's trying to dance around saying it. And then Joe just pops out with it. And he's like, if I'm homosexual, no, I can only speak for myself, but no, I'm not. Do you want me to show you? yeah And then she just gets flustered like, oh my God. uh, 00:47:51.61 Fireheart Media Anyway, then she just kind of like waves it away. But then ah Mary Tate says that she wants to go water skiing. And Craig's like, I'm going to go to K-Bi. And then they go to the dock. And while they're picking up their skis and stuff, we find out that Mary Tate actually... is like a record holder for water skiing, but she broke her ankle. So, uh, you know, she hasn't been doing that a lot since because of that fact. And, um, then she's kind of being pissy with him. So then he's like, Hey, you know, what's up? And then she's, you know, 00:48:25.72 Fireheart Media Kind of irritated about the Dorothy lady that is brought over and everything. um But anyway, they end up just kind of getting past that that moment of tension to go water skiing and then they have a good time water skiing. And as they go back home and Joe is dropping um when Craig off at his house, he says, hey, why don't you take Mary Tate home? 00:48:53.43 Fireheart Media And then Craig's like, uh, sure. So Mary Tate goes home with Craig. And then Joe is like, oh I'll take you over to some diner so you can get some eggs and some toast or coffee or whatever. And then Dorothy's like, well, what if I don't want toast and coffee? And then we just kind of cut away from that. Like Arnie, even though he has like implied sexual liaisons with people, like he doesn't actually have any of that on scene. Like he's not kissing people. 00:49:25.91 Fireheart Media on scene at all or on screen at all for any of this, which is kind of interesting because, you know, um like later on, you know, he would be like this big leading man figure. 00:49:39.00 Fireheart Media And well even then, I feel like that's one of the provisos he kind of goes into things with um along the lines of like, you know, I won't be a bad guy, more or less. um is He doesn't really, he has, he's married to people in like the films, but he doesn't generally have like romantic interludes with really anyone. Mm-hmm. he's there he stresses stuff he ah he got away from pulling his shirt off at every moment um eventually but yeah he doesn't really do like romantic leading man roles that's not like i don't think well we'll find out as we as we get through it 00:50:27.83 Fireheart Media Right. So then um back in Craig's house, they end up making out on the stairs because like, you know, she's sitting on the stairs and then he sits on lower stairs and then he's asking about her ankle and then he's like, I'll rub it. This, you know, this part of your foot relates to this part of your body. All of the parts of your foot relate to your body. And this part, you probably don't feel it, but that's your liver or whatever. And then she's like, where's my mouth? 00:50:56.15 Fireheart Media And then as she's scooting down the stairs and then they start baking out. She like was already wrapped up all around him. And she's like, which part of my foot goes to my mouth? 00:51:06.94 Fireheart Media yeah And, um, and, and that's a thing that, so when we see the, uh, the upper class when they're in their country club or when they're in their just daily lives. We don't see a lot of them, but it's, it's again, it's all that keeping up appearances. Everything has to, has its time and place and things are done like by degrees and all of the, um, 00:51:34.78 Fireheart Media all of the all of the flirting, all of that is like performative. It's done in a way that's indirect, I think. And so what we're getting with um Joe and Mary Tate as they everything's pretty fairly straight, like it's direct to the point. 00:51:54.23 Fireheart Media um And for like Dorothy, that's that was a bit of a shock. And then she kind of runs with it. But even her later flirting is indirect, like... that, oh, maybe the maybe the coffee house isn't where I want to go. 00:52:07.93 Fireheart Media You know, that's as probably direct as she can be um for her station. At the least, Craig didn't turn into like gibbering otaku nonsense where he's just like, well, I don't know what part of your foot. like He didn't do that. He caught on to the drift that was being sent off by Mary Tate and went along with it and was suave in the moment as best he could around her taking the lead. But she had to basically take the lead in that because he wasn't going to. 00:52:42.74 Fireheart Media Yeah, and that's and a large part of that is the learning curve that um Craig is on because his he's begun this sort of like... 00:52:54.27 Fireheart Media descent from on high and is mingling with the plebeians but he doesn't ever feel like um when you're watching him you don't look at him and go oh he's just mingling he's actually making a genuine effort um after that first bit of stumbling with trying to do a business transaction but he's more or less being pretty upfront with his feelings and then trying to fit into this world as best he can. i mean you can still tell he's a bit of a stranger in a strange land because that works both ways when he eventually tries to bring people from the lower class to his upper class functions. 00:53:45.34 Fireheart Media Right. So needless to say, Mary Tate spends the night And the next morning we get to see Sally Fields' full moon. The end. no So ah she gets up the next morning and she's looking at the wall at all these photos that ah Craig has on the wall. they're basically a bunch of photos of hunting where he's got, you know, birds or, you know, deer or whatever it is that he's been hunting when he's gone hunting at different times. And so she's like, why would you take pictures of that? You must really like yourself, you know to you know, like how you look to have all this on the wall. And he's just like, I like to remember those moments, you know, the moment of getting this this prize or whatever. And that's what he says in response. So like there's a little bit more talk about like the stuff on the wall that I feel like you get in a lot of movies. And it comes back later in a way that, um you know, like is interesting because it the way that it's taken and the way that it's then turned around on him 00:54:53.08 Fireheart Media is inaccurate to his actual intentions. So ah it's kind of cool that there's this kind of level of observation going on and then like a misinterpretation. 00:55:06.26 Fireheart Media Yeah, it'll be inaccurate to his intentions, but it's accurate to the viewpoint um of the class struggle. 00:55:20.02 Fireheart Media So that that's what this movie is serving to do is to kind of ah erase the line between the lower and upper class, you know, and look at things as like a cross section. guess you're not really erasing the line, but you're looking at things as a cross section and kind of showcasing the um the societal failings that stratification like creates. 00:55:53.65 Fireheart Media You've, you've, you're trying to make things like this is above, this is below, but, but all in reality, everything's more intertwined than people want to acknowledge. 00:56:06.07 Fireheart Media Right. So speaking of all of that, just about that time, we have a black servant come in who walks in on them while they're waking up that day and they're buck naked with just like a sheet covering them. And he's like, oh, oh, and William is his name. And so he says, oh, do you, you know, oh, we'll have some breakfast, says Craig. OK, you want breakfast in bed? 00:56:35.03 Fireheart Media And he's like, no, we'll use the dining room for once, because one of the exchanges that we had a little bit earlier when everybody was at his house was um everybody looking at his house. And then Mary Tate's like, this is a nice house. It's really big, though. Like, what do you need all this house for? And he's like, I don't. 00:56:53.46 Fireheart Media And, you know, do you just not know what to do with it? No. You know, this is my parents house. And she's like, well, you live here. Shouldn't it be your house? No, it's my parents house. You know, like it's not he's making it very clear and in this direct way that he is with his language that like he is not really in the same. space He doesn't play in the same space that his parents of the upper class do. And, you know, he doesn't feel really part and parcel of this world ah that he's inherited. So he doesn't really know what to do with the estate now that his parents have passed. 00:57:28.82 Fireheart Media But he does still have William, who is this black servant that's been in the family for 52 years. So like he's been in there since the twenties. So we'll just leave that there. Just note that he is a black man who is a servant of this family. 00:57:44.34 Fireheart Media And, uh, these are all white people as, as the primary characters. So anyway, um, they end up um talking a little bit about Mary Tate and Joe's prior relationship because after they've slept together, they're like, huh? Well, Craig's like, huh? So what about you and Joe? And then Mary Tate's like, no, we're not really together. Like we, we lived together once that's all and whatever. 00:58:11.64 Fireheart Media and, You know, she gets kind of irritated that he's asking that question. And because he's like thinking that Joe is going to be upset that Mary Tate and he spent the night together. Or, you know, he says, actually, I think he says that um he thinks that Joe set it up and that makes Mary Tate angry. 00:58:34.87 Fireheart Media Yeah, she's like, I'm he's not my pimp. Like, that's, you're making me sound like a loose woman. Like, no, this is my own, this is all me. Like, I'm here because I want it to be. 00:58:46.87 Fireheart Media and but now you're making But now you're pissing me off, you know. That being said, the relationship between Joe and Mary Tate is in fact a little bit more complicated than she's letting on. 00:59:01.30 Fireheart Media ah i i don't think that they're still romantically in love with one another, but there's there' they're at that level of friendship where... 00:59:13.98 Fireheart Media like kissing one another is more the love of the person and not like a romantic love. Um, but they still do that. So it's for anyone else on looking, you're like, wait, what's going on? 00:59:28.38 Fireheart Media um but those are things that ah underscore the differences between the, um the lower class and the upper class where they're, they're not doing that to put on an appearance. 00:59:46.74 Fireheart Media That's just their relationship. And they're comfortable with that. And everyone else is kind like, no one raises any questions. No one says anything about it. That's just how it is. Everyone accepts People are just people and it's not anyone's business who someone chooses to love or not. 01:00:05.21 Fireheart Media ah And so I think that that's, um ah even for its time, I feel like that's pretty progressive. Right, right. Especially for like ah a bio or like a sort of slice of life thing that's about Southern America. 01:00:24.47 Fireheart Media in In an era where you've got, you know, like the black servant that's been in the family for 52 years and kind of situation. So ah anyway, the real estate people had a meeting and we're trying to see why Craig is taking so long to get the gym. 01:00:40.06 Fireheart Media So ah we that means that the real estate moguls are sending Hal who is the other buddy of Craig's that's trying to prove himself by getting into this deal. They want to send Hal to go figure out what the hell the problem is. So we cut to Craig and Mary Tate out on a date and they are walking along after they had Chinese takeout or something. 01:01:04.22 Fireheart Media And they're talking about fortune cookies. And then, um, at one point, Mary Tate turns and looks at this fancy bank building and is like, I think that I would like a picture from somewhere in there. I bet it's really pretty. And so Craig just goes across into the bank building to go just steal a picture for Mary Tate. And she's just standing on the sidewalk like, what are you doing? 01:01:26.01 Fireheart Media you know, come back here. And he just goes up there, sneaks in because the security guy is not at the front desk. And he just goes to one of the offices and is actively taking a painting off the wall when the guy whose office it is comes in and is like, hey, what do you think you're doing? I'm taking this painting off the wall. It seems like it's screwed in there pretty tight and whatever. And like, it's this whole thing. Dave, go ahead. 01:01:49.50 Fireheart Media I don't even know where to go with it. it's a mixture of him freewheeling, trying to impress his, his lady friend and the, um, 01:02:06.71 Fireheart Media thanks guy the You know, i 01:02:11.52 Fireheart Media Craig himself has privilege. And for him, he doesn't second guess this at all. He's not sneaking around. He was going to just go try to buy it off of them initially. 01:02:25.91 Fireheart Media Like, hey, you know, he's trying to get to the front desk and go, hey, I just want to buy this painting. No one's there. So he's like, well, I'm just going to go take it because... why not? um Someone wants it that I love and I'm going to just get it for him because I can. 01:02:39.90 Fireheart Media um So initially he's using that, like in his head, that privilege of just assuming that whatever he wants, he can get. ah And then when it's, 01:02:51.48 Fireheart Media When it push comes to shove, the banker in that office shows up and starts accusing him of stealing. And then it's like, hey, wait, you look familiar. I think I saw you on like the Wall Street Journal or whatever, some business... 01:03:04.66 Fireheart Media thing and he's like you're one of the Blake you're like the Blake kid it's like I dated your cousin and it was just going off on this whole thing and the guy was like actually happy to see him did you know despite the situation and then Craig's just like denying it and gets away with the painting basically after have it's a short scuffle with the security guard well, actually, when he gets downstairs to the security guard's desk, like he gets stopped by the security guard. He's like, hey, you need to sign out. 01:03:35.34 Fireheart Media And then he's like, where'd you get that painting? Oh, I got to take it. I've got another meeting I've got to go to. I forgot to sign in, so i don't I don't need to sign out. Well, you have to sign in and sign out and this, that, and the other. Okay, well, I'll sign in and sign out at the same time. Well, where is this painting from again, you said? Oh, well, it's from so-and-so's office. Well, let's go up there and go talk to Mr. So-and-so. Okay, fine, let's do that. And then they get in the elevator and then he skips out with the painting and runs away and runs across the street back to Mary Tate. And then she doesn't want the painting, so they hand it to a random bystander who's like... 01:04:09.66 Fireheart Media did you see what these people gave to me well okay I'm not okay I guess I'm taking it you know yeah it's like a picture of these sunflowers and um because she's Mary Tate saw it in a window across the street she's like i thought it was a lion he's like oh you don't even want it she's like no not really and he just hands it to like this dude walking by and the guy's like i guess I'm stuck with the painting thanks it's very silly um yeah i don't like I did love when he's escaping out of the elevator because he just raises the painting and the security says, what are you doing? and then he scoots out the door before it closes. It's Looney Tunes. like It's very Bugs Bunny coded. It's pretty great. 01:04:55.29 Fireheart Media Well, and what's fun about that whole scene is it's a mixture showing that Craig is both of that upper class world. And that's undeniably part of who he is. But also the fact that he's. 01:05:11.35 Fireheart Media you know, disregarding that upper class world entirely, not playing along with it, but just, you know, ah foiling everybody and then just taking what he wants and moving on, you know, like he's also sticking it to the man, the man being other people like himself, you know, like it's an interesting point where it kind of is really showing a good character moment for him. Like, These character studies that we're getting here, especially of Craig himself, are really insightful. And like if you're paying attention to it and paying attention to the overall arc of the character, it's very well written stuff. Like that's part of why I'm like, oh, man, I really want to read the book for this. 01:05:53.62 Fireheart Media Yeah, he's so... He's lost. He's lost his parents, and that was so only several months away from the beginning of the movie. He doesn't know what to do with himself. He doesn't know what to do with his inheritance. It's too much for him. He realistically just can't exist there um because he's, he's torn not only from like the bereavement angle, but because he's, I think he's outgrowing his friends. Right. 01:06:29.30 Fireheart Media The things that they're doing are the things they've always done and the things everyone just continues to do. They're playing the game and it's the same old, same old thing. And he just, I don't think he wants to do that anymore. 01:06:42.62 Fireheart Media um He's coming at this business thing with like the most lackadaisical, i could I could give a rat's ass about it, honestly. And that's what draws him into this crowd with Joe and Mary Tate and Thor and Robert Englund. 01:07:01.40 Fireheart Media And he's having the time of his life. I mean, sure, it's rough going. He's not having like, it's not nothing's being given to him. If he wants something, he has to like try for it. And I think that that's the big draw with him in this section of society is like no one is given anything. No one's guaranteed anything. But if you work hard for it and then you really want something, um you have the means to be able to do that. Or at least you have the choice to do that. And you're not like just on the railroad track to like this is what life is. 01:07:38.97 Fireheart Media So something else I want to say, too, is that even though Joe Santo is put out there like Arnie's characters put out there as the golden child that can do anything, even though he's lower class, he's also an immigrant. He's this, that and the other. And he has all these disadvantages, but he's the Renaissance man who can do literally anything that he wants to do. 01:08:01.39 Fireheart Media You know, like we roll up on it here pretty soon where he turns into a fiddler because he just rolled up on some fiddlers one day and asked him to teach him how to play. And he just did the thing. And it's kind of like, you know, he's doing the bodybuilding thing because he just decided to do the thing. And he put the work and the time in And then that's where he gets, you know, like he doesn't complain. He puts in his work, he gets his results, you know. And um the thing about it is that all the characters around him are not playing second fiddle to him either. They are all individually living their own lives and vibrant and, you know, on their own courses. And they don't revolve around joe Santos character. They are their own people. 01:08:48.98 Fireheart Media And they're independent and free. And that's the thing that really I find with all of the quote unquote lower class people here. They all have the freedom of choice where the upper class in here is very hemmed in by like the dictates of the decorum that they're supposed to be, you know, going through these ritual movements. And, you know, this is what you do and this is what you don't do. And, you know, like that is really, um, what dictates so much and it makes them kind of, uh, stuffy and, and unable to progress and do anything other, you know, than what they've been doing, you know, like all of his friends just in the same rut. 01:09:35.19 Fireheart Media Yeah. And that's, what's attracted to Craig and on the point of Joe and him, ah When he is devoting himself to something and he just does that to anything that catches his interest, he's going to go full force like everything I've got, I will put into this thing because I will always have everything I've got. 01:09:58.74 Fireheart Media like if I'm It doesn't have to just detract from the other things he's doing. He just puts himself into everything he's doing. um And by that same token, he wants that for other people. And he makes sure that while he, like, I can bask in the limelight, that's fine. 01:10:18.84 Fireheart Media But he wants other people to do that too. Like whatever you're doing, just go, go at it. You know, I love it. I want you, you know, if you're challenging me, go ahead, you know, do it. Be big, big and beautiful. Come at me. I'll do my best. You do your best and whatever happens. 01:10:36.47 Fireheart Media If you're interested in something, go for it. Like that is fantastic because if you're if you're not interested in things and if you're just becoming comfortable, if you're staying stagnant, if you're just, if you pick the lane and you're just sitting in it, you're just sitting in stuck traffic. 01:10:52.65 Fireheart Media You're not going anywhere, you know? Um, and he, and he tells that later to Jeff, um, in a very, uh, Jeff and to, uh, to, to Craig, um, very poignantly, um, with the mic drop. 01:11:05.69 Fireheart Media But for the most part, when you see him interacting with anyone, he's never, stealing the stage. He's just there. He's there and you're there too. And he wants you to be there too and be there fully and do your best. And you do your best. He'll do his best. It's going to be fantastic. Like no matter what the outcome is, everyone's trying their hardest and they had fun doing it. 01:11:32.47 Fireheart Media And the thing about that is that that's really a hundred percent how Arnold himself as a person is. he It's a real show of absolute self-confidence to be able to not feel threatened by anyone else going about their lives, doing their absolute best, whatever that might be. Because that, you know, like if you are living your life fully with your whole heart like that, then you know you aren't you aren't worried about what anybody else is up to because you've got control over exactly one person. That's you. you know 01:12:10.04 Fireheart Media And that's what you have to be working on. So um you know it's that element of Arnie as a person that is then infused throughout basically every character he ever plays that I feel like is the most resonant thing about his characters for me i mean beyond above and beyond any of the physique or the comedy or the other aspects it's that degree of confidence and wholeheartedness that he just brings to everything that he does and that's what you want you you he as an actor he's bringing himself to every role 01:12:53.69 Fireheart Media wholeheartedly, know no matter what it is, a bit part or a leading role. He's there. He's present. He's not um not faking it till you make it. This is him. 01:13:05.18 Fireheart Media And this is probably of his roles thus far, the most him. He's playing, ah albeit slightly fictionalized version of himself. So the amount of acting he has to do here is pretty the most minimal i think that it will be in in his career he's just playing a fictionalized version of himself um he will he will repeat the same thing in pumping iron and we'll find out that this version um this joe santo is 01:13:39.93 Fireheart Media the idealized what if And then we'll see a different side of that when we get to pumping iron, because it's again, it's a facet. He's a multifaceted man and you'll get a different version of him that while true is maybe a little more, um, inward looking, I guess, like if you're going to be critical about yourself and then point out things, um, jokingly, uh, that'll be what pumping iron car brings to the table. So in this version, this is his, like, he's just bringing that fantastic every man, 01:14:23.13 Fireheart Media but 01:14:25.94 Fireheart Media If you can do everything you do at our at the 100% level, like if you if you devote yourself wholeheartedly to everything that you do, you can shine. And it doesn't matter what other people think what other people do because it's for you. It's about you. 01:14:41.75 Fireheart Media It's what you bring to the table. And you'll only shine all the more if everyone else brought their full A game to the table too. Because then at that point, no matter what you're doing, everyone is present. They're fully present in the moment and they are shining just as brightly. 01:15:02.30 Fireheart Media You're raising the level of the water for every boat is what you're doing. And um right above my computer, which is my work desk, which is my podcasting station, i have an Arnie quote, which is, you can have results or excuses, not both. And that's essentially like the attitude that Arnie has about everything that he does. So he's only going to get his results, in this case, a Golden Globe Award, because he's putting 100% of himself into this. role, you know, and his character is also mimicking that same thing on screen and in this narrative for Craig, for Mary Tate, for whoever. This is why Mary Tate loves him the way that she does, however that is, however complicated that is or is not. and that's why Craig is drawn into him, his circle, you know, the circle that Joe Santo as a character has around him. So we cut to the gym where one of the ladies, I think her name is Annette or something like that. um She is giving a karate class to a group of women and she steps aside to talk to Mary Tate. Mary Tate jumps into Joe's arms because he's up lifting and stuff. And she jumps into his arms and says, oh, I missed you and starts giving him kisses and everything. 01:16:25.59 Fireheart Media And they're little pop kisses, but she's kissing them all over the place. And just like when she jumps on him, she's not just jumping on him. She's jumping and wrapping herself around him because she knows that he's a big old strong man. And, you know, she doesn't weigh anything. So, you know, he could lift her with one arm and it's no big deal, you know, for reps. So ah anyway, then we cut to... 01:16:49.14 Fireheart Media um Hal coming over to see Craig and asking about the real estate deal. And Craig tells him the place isn't interested in the deal and so on. And then Mary Tate comes out of somewhere in a robe. 01:17:03.42 Fireheart Media And, um, then, Hal gives Craig a bunch of shit about, oh, well, I understand what's going on now because I see that you have a little lady around here. Well, don't let that piece of tail stop you from doing this thing because we need to do this and you can't drag me down. Don't mess around with broads is what he says and everything. 01:17:28.31 Fireheart Media And um so anyway, you know, he's pretty pissed and then he just like deuces out. He deuces out, but Craig is like, he's out of his gourd because this is the this is one of the points where he's starting to like figure out what he wants may not be in line with like his station in life. 01:17:51.64 Fireheart Media So he's just like kind of faffing around and he's just play fighting with his buddy. And then once Hal like bad mouths. Yeah, bad mouths Mary Tate. He's like, actually, I'm going to. 01:18:04.57 Fireheart Media and Knock your teeth in you better you know You better jet. And um it's a good moment because you realize you know how young Craig is. 01:18:17.88 Fireheart Media Like everyone in this, is they're fairly young. But there's ah there's a certain amount of growing up that Craig has to do um emotionally, physically, and um just also just in general to kind of fit the shoes that he has before him. 01:18:40.41 Fireheart Media And there aren't necessarily the ones that his parents laid out for him. We don't really ever get a a good sense of what his parents were about only from, um, Uncle Albert and also from the family man servant, William. And William will on several occasions let Craig know specifically that his actions are shameful um to the like the family memory like as it was laid out ahead of him. 01:19:20.50 Fireheart Media But those like denouements don't have to be like direct reflections but because Craig's just spinning his wheels and William knows he can see that. And he's like, you're not you're not being respectful to the legacy that your parents gave you, but there's different ways you could be. And it's not up to me to tell you like what those are. You need to like figure that that stuff out for yourself. And Craig's in the middle of figuring that stuff out for himself. 01:19:51.51 Fireheart Media This is a bit of an aside about Jeff Bridges, but in 2009, he played in a movie called Crazy Art, and his character's name was Bad Blake. We've got that Blake name up in there again, so he's Craig Blake here, but he's Bad Blake in 2009. And yeah, continuing that aside, Jeff Bridges is a solid dude. 01:20:12.63 Fireheart Media like He is the dude, of course, from Big Lebowski, but um his career has kind of put him into these just everyday true to life characters. He's usually not outlandish unless it's something like Tron where it wasn't him that was outlandish. It was just the world he you know found himself in, but he's, 01:20:40.41 Fireheart Media given ah a depth of emotion in this movie and a lot of time to like show the changes someone can go through in like their path to self-discovery. And I think that like, that's the secondary I mean, I guess technically it's the main plot cause you're following him, but that's the secondary big message that this film is bringing to it is that people need the time and space and respect to kind of like discover themselves and support when they need it. 01:21:12.82 Fireheart Media Um, and then just general pushback, like that's, that's not helping anyone. That's just hindering people's like path to realization and This film is kind of about that too. It's about like understanding yourself, understanding society, understanding where you could fit in there that doesn't leave you feeling lacking. 01:21:39.06 Fireheart Media Absolutely. And um talking about William and disapproving because of the family heritage and this, that, and the other, the inherited name that he carries. So the next scene after this Howell situation is Craig and Mary Tate dressing in some of the family clothing. And then they're messing around in the living room. ah Like they're, they're dressed in some of the old clothing and hanging out in the living room, but they're also like, 01:22:06.81 Fireheart Media all over each other. And then William comes in and gets mad that they are wearing like basically like grandparents clothing or something like that. And then also messing around in grandma's chair who he also served when he was a young man. And so he says that he's going to quit and gives them a bunch of like basically dresses him down, dresses Craig down for the shameful behavior that he's exhibiting and the lack of respect for, you know, the history of his family. And William isn't wrong in that because Craig does need to understand that like there is 01:22:48.28 Fireheart Media there is history that comes with like the Blake name and he shouldn't like he finding himself and doing his own thing shouldn't come at the expense of disrespecting everything that came before him. You can acknowledge that and move forward and not like besmirch all the family things. And also maybe more to the point, don't like screw with like these heirloom artifacts that can be sold for money should the need arise. 01:23:17.11 Fireheart Media Right. That too. Although that's like not really the main plot point there, but you're just thinking about like, you know, the, the, the kind of situations we find ourselves in these days. Uh, so yeah, yeah. The rest of the family overall is angry at Craig for running around with plebeians basically. And, uh, meanwhile, Craig continues to have a good time with the lower class, 01:23:39.34 Fireheart Media Uh, Craig and Joe go to see some people who are playing country music and we find out that Joe has learned how to play the fiddle. He just wandered up one day to these, these people in overalls and the little guy, the one little old guy who, who's doing his little jig or whatever. And, um, 01:23:55.26 Fireheart Media So they are all fiddling. And then like the guy says, do you know the difference between this and a violin? This is that you play it like this and it's a fiddle and you play it like that and it's a violin and, and this, that, and the other. And yeah, Joe came up and he just asked about it. And then we just started teaching him and now look at him. And then, you know, Joe was leading an ensemble cast of different, you know, country folk, rural country folk in this, this, you know, competition or whatever, like this whole like jamboree rather. And all these little kids who have fiddles and banjos and stuff come up because this is like an ongoing cultural moment for all the people in this area. And this guy from Austria who has no history in this culture whatsoever has been accepted into this group as part of the group as they go and celebrate each other. And, um, Craig is handed a jug, like a mason jar full of moonshine. And, you know, he's talking to Joe after, after he's taking a break or something. And, um, he's like, you know, I've always heard about this stuff, but I've never had it, but it's pretty good. And it grows on you. 01:25:01.66 Fireheart Media And, uh, they're talking and, and Craig is telling Joe that he didn't intend for all this stuff with Mary Tate to happen. And Joe says, Hey, it's cool. You know, he's never seen Mary Tate happier. And then they shift that conversation again to that moonshine. And then what Joe says in response about Craig's drinking is like a lot of good things in life, you can have too much all at once and you have to be careful. And so there's an important lesson that Craig isn't paying attention to right now because he's not in a headspace where he can accept that yet. And so he says, I've been careful my whole life. And then he just goes off and he's on a rampage, you know, like a drunken rampage. And then he goes off to dance with grandpa in the middle of the circle and is sloshed all over the place. He does do a fine jig though. So i think all is forgiven with his party faux pas of just being utterly hammered. Everyone's having a blast. And I love that um Joe comes in and he's, we have multiple moments of this, but he's never like stealing the show. He's just part of it. How he happens to be massive and much larger than everyone, but he's never. And everything. And good at everything, but he's humble and he's never hogging the spotlight. 01:26:22.18 Fireheart Media He's just there too. And then that's pointed out later on. And he's like, no, don't worry about it. We've got our thing going on. 01:26:33.56 Fireheart Media So we cut to Franklin, AKA Robert Englund. if i forgot, like I couldn't catch his name for most of the film, but I finally got it like two thirds of the way through. Anyway, so Franklin is going to the spa and he comes in just as the football people that that were mad at Craig way early in the film, they are smashing the place up and and robbing it. Like they're mostly just trying to wreck the place because they want to ruin the business. And they were hired. They say, oh, we were hired for this, but now I'm going to really enjoy it because they recognize Franklin as being that guy who started that fight and like throw in the first punch. So they were hired by the business guys, the real estate guys to come and fuck everything up. 01:27:19.61 Fireheart Media And anyhow, so they get into this big brawl and eventually Anita, the karate instructor, like you know ah kicks at one of them and then the guys get away, but they curb the amount of damage that could have been done to the gym. However, Thor is talking to Craig the next day about, man, I don't know, I can't open the gym like this. There's all this destruction that I've got to fix. 01:27:48.19 Fireheart Media And, ah you know, so Craig's like, well, how much money is it going to cost to repair everything? And Thor's like, oh, like $5,000 probably because they've got to do all this stuff with the air and this, that, and the other. And Craig's like, I'll lend it to you. And he's like, well, what do you want for it? Now, an IOU is fine. Like, I just want to make sure that you can do your business. Like, he's just being like a nice guy and helping Thor out to, you know, assist the gym, particularly because all of his friends go there. 01:28:18.10 Fireheart Media you know, and so he lends the money to Thor so they can fix everything because otherwise the Mr. Olympia competition isn't going to happen and everything kind of gets jacked for all of his buddies. So back at Craig's house, he is upset at Mary Tate and in general, he's just really stressed out. She's asking him questions that he doesn't really want to answer. He's like, I just want to sit in this chair. 01:28:43.64 Fireheart Media And she's like, that's okay. You can just sit in the chair. Like it we don't get into Craig's head and hear his thoughts, but we do get to see him in these moments where he's overloaded and trying to deal with the responsibilities and expectations that are placed on him, as well as his desires and the conflicts that are arising because those two things don't match up together. 01:29:09.72 Fireheart Media So um back at Craig's house, he's doing all of that mess. Then he is ah at the shindig for the wedding. After this, we cut to the wedding and at this wedding, it's a big mess. It's a massive mess. 01:29:29.72 Fireheart Media He's so out of his gourd because he's upset with like. everything going on. He hasn't really settled on like what side of the train tracks he's going like be on because you can't really straddle him. He's just getting hit with the train repeatedly. 01:29:47.64 Fireheart Media I'm trying to do that, trying to like placate both sides of his like desire. It's not working for him and he definitely is not in line with the Hoity Toity Country Club vibe Like that's he, he, really he's finally come to terms with like, that's not what he wants, but that's where he like lives. That's what his parents want. 01:30:16.38 Fireheart Media did. That's what he's brought into. This has been his life for the 20-something years he's been alive. So just leaving that behind doesn't feel right for him, I think. 01:30:28.73 Fireheart Media um But in that exchange, he's trying to, because he's living in you know in between both worlds, he's trying to bring the things that make him happy into the setting that he's familiar with. 01:30:46.71 Fireheart Media And that, that includes Mary Tate and Joe. So he has Joe fill in, um, for the, the musical accompaniment for this party that, um, he was at tasks to, to do. And he's like, no, I got the guys, you know, and they play great music. You loved that. I love this big shindig. That was fantastic. 01:31:05.59 Fireheart Media And he brings Mary Tate and he's, he's like, oh, you know you pick the dress that like it looks great on you it's a little strange because it's just not the way folks at like these receptions like dress but it's so it's like in a night out like an evening dress if you're gonna go to like a club or something and then you know like it's a cute pink dress but it's got like open parts on the sides and down the back. So there's a lot of showing skin and it's definitely not something that the upper class people would be wearing with their puffy, huge, you know, outfits. Uh, so like, it's a little bit different than the style that you would see at this. So it's, it's considered inappropriate by the upper class because of the type of occasion that it is. And so, um you know, like that's looked down on. And also Joe is wearing like this, this satin Western shirt with like a little tie around his neck and like a scarf around his neck and stuff. And he rented the clothing for the occasion, especially. so that he could look the part of you know this this country band that he's done but then the upper class people don't like the shindig music because it's not you know the kind of snooty upper class you know like we want soft jazz or i don't know what the hell they want for music i don't i don't know what they want but what they want is not the hoedown music 01:32:36.79 Fireheart Media It's not the hoedown have a party music. It's like a sedate. but Or you're on a it's yacht rock before yacht rock was a thing. Like you're just on a cruise ship with like chill elevator music. I don't know. um But that's not what Joe brings to the party. And I thought their performance was fantastic. Like this is this is kicking music. um It was too kicking for that crowd, um unfortunately. And then everyone's just flat out disparaging Joe in front of Blake. 01:33:08.95 Fireheart Media And Blake wasn't having it. he you know He's doing a favor of what he thought for his aunt or s a lot of his family. um And he's doing a solid for his friend by booking him like this soiree gig. 01:33:24.41 Fireheart Media And he's like, yeah, helped... every everyone I love i out, you know, and it's just not going over well. So he's getting pissed. People are disparaging his, his girlfriend who they're saying is like the hanger on of Joe because they fit together because they're both look like the pores. 01:33:47.59 Fireheart Media It's just a lot. It's a lot. and you can, it's overwhelming him. And then it's overwhelming Mary Tate because since he's flustered and is trying to like maintain some kind of decorum, um he leaves her like alone with people that are not respecting her. 01:34:03.77 Fireheart Media So she's upset, understandably. He's upset, understandably, but like some of most of this is his fault. And then Joe is pissed because he's being disrespected and he won't stand for that. And so he's just going to take his folks and go. 01:34:19.35 Fireheart Media So Joe leaves and Craig gets into a fight with some of the other upper class people because like he literally throws his drink on one guy. And then he just starts throwing fists because he's not having any of this crap. And then like they get separated and dragged apart. And then he goes to look for Mary Tate because Joe has left. and then Mary Tate is out by the pool flirting with some other random rich guy just because she just wants to make craig mad she doesn't give a crap about this guy she just wants to make craig bag mad and then so he's she's like oh yeah see this he's got because he he's some guy who has like a manufacturing business or something and They're talking about how Japanese import goods aren't as good as American goods and this is why or whatever. And so she's like, oh, Lester, honey, let me see your lighter again. See this? It has zero defects. And she's like yelling that at Craig because she's so mad. So Lester, who is played by a very, very young, surprising appearance by Ed Begley Jr., um and there's a little badge on his suit that says no defects. And he's like, yeah, only people from my company have this badge. 01:35:34.42 Fireheart Media And he's trying to, like, he starts to downplay it because he realizes, you know, oh, crap, Craig's, like, super pissed. I didn't know this was someone's, like, lady friend. She just was talking to me, and I went with it, and... 01:35:47.54 Fireheart Media then Mary Tate gets upset because she's been flirting with this guy and he's just, it's the situation that could have happened with Craig where um the Lester is like clueless on what to do with 01:36:07.22 Fireheart Media with her like she's flirting with him and he's just like no and doesn't understand like the inc intricacies or like the directness really it's overwhelming him um but craig is just mad and throws the dude into like the pool it's pretty funny Well, somewhere in there too, Craig ends up having a run-in in the bathroom with our good old Uncle Albert, a.k.a. Mark Twain. There's a point where he's in the bathroom and Uncle Albert's talking to him ah basically about how he doesn't approve of what Craig decided to do tonight in terms of bringing his new friends over to play with the upper class who don't 01:36:55.48 Fireheart Media don't play with those folks. And um at this particular point, Uncle Albert seems really, you know, like a, you know, quote unquote bad guy in terms of our story and our growth arc for Craig, because he seems really kind of disparaging for Craig. But then like after this incident, after the night is over, the next time we see Uncle Albert, he's actually a real cool guy. But this is the point where he's not on that page yet. 01:37:24.41 Fireheart Media Well, he's giving Craig a dressing down that is necessary because the things that Craig is doing aren't benefiting anyone. He's drunk and off the handle. like he's not like He's not helping himself. He's not helping his friends, and he's not helping this the upper c crust of society. He's just causing problems. And that's where Uncle Albert steps in and says, albert Uncle ah uncle un Scrooge. um Uncle Albert steps in and is like, hey, you got to slow your roll. Like, I see what you're doing. 01:38:03.42 Fireheart Media But you're making waves and it's not necessary. Like, you didn't have to come and do this. There's maybe better ways to do what you're doing. 01:38:15.67 Fireheart Media And then he leaves it at that. 01:38:19.00 Fireheart Media Some other things that happen at this party is that Craig confronts Hal and tells him he wants out of this this real estate deal. And Hal is like, you can't just drop me in the middle of this because that makes me look bad and screws me over because then all my money is tied up in this jewelry store that I don't want. 01:38:38.04 Fireheart Media And it's like, Craig, mike my guy, these are bad dudes. We're in neck deep with these bad guys. And it's like, we both knew that going into it. You can't just like walk away because they'll come after us. 01:38:52.44 Fireheart Media And break our legs or something. yeah I mean, I think that's about what he says. And yeah, another person talks about, you know, oh who is this Mr. Universe guy or whatever. And You know, like Craig is just not having any of the crap and ends up, you know, going on ah this whole rampage. So anyway, after they all get home, Craig and Mary Tate have more of a fight and Mary Tate decides that she's gone. Deuce. I loved you. You fucked me over. I'm not staying. And so she grabs some of her stuff and she's pulling, you know jumping in her car and she's about to leave. And then he's like, you left so most of your stuff. And she doesn't give a crap. She's, she's leaving anyway. And then he's screaming, I need you. And she stops and she's crying for a moment, but then she peels out into the roadway and then leaves. Cause she just cannot right now handle anything that he's, he's trying to put out because she's so upset from what happened. 01:39:52.38 Fireheart Media Yeah. And this moment when she's like digging into him is where she brings up ah those pictures earlier. And she's like, I am not here to be like a trophy for you. 01:40:05.78 Fireheart Media um I'm not one of your pictures to stick on a wall. Like, you know, screw you. I'm not doing that. Like, that's not what I'm about. And I'm not going to put up with it. 01:40:17.40 Fireheart Media And We know that was never his intention and he's trying to convey that. But like, if you look at all the things that have been happening and then all his like screw ups, it, it does look an awful lot. Like that's what he was trying to do. 01:40:31.90 Fireheart Media If you're, if you're honestly taking a look at the whole picture, So we cut to the next day and Uncle Albert is lecturing Craig and tells him that it doesn't matter what he does so long as he does it unsparingly. He talks about this other person, this other uncle and that used to be the real black sheep in the family because he really loved goats. And he decided that he wanted to raise goats and that's what he was going to do. And so he ended up moving to Jamaica and he started with four goats and now he's got a goat empire in Jamaica somewhere. 01:41:06.51 Fireheart Media And, you know, that's what he ended up going and doing. And so he was the black sheep of the family for a long time. But his whole point and purpose of talking about this was to say, but he made a life for himself and he's happy where he's at. So it doesn't matter what it is that you're doing. Just do it uncompromisingly. You know, he very literally tells Craig shit or get off the pot. 01:41:33.34 Fireheart Media Like, literally, he tells him that. um The fun part is when he's saying that, you know what, your uncle's up, but what it has now? And he goes, bah, like a lot of goats. 01:41:46.46 Fireheart Media ah And yeah he has a little... um Yeah, it's a monoscope, whatever it's called. Anyway, he got a little spyglass and he's just like, monocular. And he's like looking around and then Craig's like, you know, by the way, you have that with you all the time. What are you looking at? He's like, I'm looking at squirrels. 01:42:06.65 Fireheart Media I love me some squirrels. And then later he's like, I don't have goats, but you know what? I got squirrels. 01:42:14.65 Fireheart Media Right. So this is like a very important scene because uncle Albert is giving Craig the advice that he needs and the permission that he needs to, okay, look, if you really want to be part of this community that you've built around yourself, that's great. But you got to like do it a hundred percent. You can't be trying to schmooze with the upper class and also try to be doing whatever you're doing with your, your bodybuilding guys. You've got to go do your bodybuilding guys thing Or you've got to find some other route to take. Whatever it is that's going make you feel whole and, you know, whatever. Whatever fulfills you, you've got to do it. 01:42:53.62 Fireheart Media But you've got to do it 100%. You can't just be sitting here in this weird little in-between space. You know, ah like Dave said earlier, you have to pick what side of the tracks you're going to be on. Otherwise, you're going to keep getting hit by the train. 01:43:06.10 Fireheart Media So we cut from that over to the Mr. Olympia contest and then back to Dorothy and Craig talking. So the Mr. Olympia contest is starting up. 01:43:21.94 Fireheart Media That's in the background. Dorothy and Craig are talking and Dorothy's like, oh, yeah. So I figured you'd eventually come to your senses more or less. 01:43:34.58 Fireheart Media And then ah after that little section, Craig goes and let's see, hold on. 01:43:53.85 Fireheart Media So after Dorothy is saying all of this stuff to Craig, then Craig is messing around with the stuff that he used to be interested in, like his fishing stuff and his hunting things, and everything just kind of seems very empty to him. Like he's not saying anything, While he's back at his house and messing with these things, but you can just see in his body language and the way that it's shot that he is not being fulfilled by these things that used to brighten his day. So Hal comes in and tries to buy the spa at the spa and then... 01:44:31.74 Fireheart Media ends up meeting with the other real estate guys and telling them, okay, you know, no luck, no luck with any of that. So Hal has tried to do the same thing and fails to get the spa either. 01:44:45.53 Fireheart Media The real estate people send two ladies to then sweeten the deal and maybe entice Thor to sell the place because it's a little bit more difficult. So Craig wasn't just BSing, it really is a little bit more difficult than you know, first meets the eye. 01:45:02.42 Fireheart Media Yeah. thor Thor, his, his interest is in money ultimately and he's made that clear on a few occasions um where he's had one of his best boys like hey hang on to this money the prize money that we're you know putting into this competition um because we need uh joe to win i don't want no one to steal it so we can get the money when joe wins um and that'll make that'll make back our investments and other business deals I've done on the side or whatever 01:45:34.23 Fireheart Media the um The shady business dudes come up and they make a proposition to Thor. They're like, you know drop all the stuff you're doing right now. We like your building. We like your little spa setup. 01:45:47.22 Fireheart Media We think if we can go, we know we can do something better with this. You know you sell this to us and then That will get you the money to open up your own like spa. Massage parlor. Yes, it's a spa and massage parlor. And here's some of the ladies that will be, you know, your staff. 01:46:06.78 Fireheart Media And it's two fancy ladies. um And he tells Thor that he gets to audition them with like no uncertain terms about what all that entails. Yes. And so Thor... 01:46:22.66 Fireheart Media Basically, I mean, he's already been drinking, but he just jumps to this opportunity. He's like, let's do it. I'd always wanted to have a massage parlor. and um he takes the ladies and brings them back to the spa. 01:46:37.56 Fireheart Media ah And... 01:46:41.62 Fireheart Media think name is Ben or something. Yeah, I think it's Ben. um Ben's this guy that he had hanging on to the money who was one of the other lifters. ah And he tells Ben, hey, you entertain this one lady, I'll entertain the other, and then I'll entertain them. But it just goes on for a while. Yeah. 01:46:59.45 Fireheart Media they use all the equipment in naughty ways um Ben however is not all about this he's like something's going on here that's against my principles um and he like detains the one lady he's with and he's like you just hang out here just give you a massage So to be more specific, so Ben's role in the club is he actually is somebody who does give massages. Like earlier in the movie, we see him as the mass ah massage therapist. And um the thing about it is like the lady that he is assigned is like, I've never had a... 01:47:41.09 Fireheart Media insert word for black person before or something and uh all of this mess and she just takes off her top and we get boobies flashing and then she's about to take off her underwear and he's like oh leave the trunks on like he he's like oh no i don't want any of that none of that And then he ties her down to the table and puts some tape over her mouth so she can just like stop. And he is like honestly giving her a massage, but he's also trying to keep her from you know like either leaving or you know like calling out to people like, what is he doing? He's not doing what he's supposed to be doing that I'm supposed to be earning money for right now. And meanwhile, Thor is using all of the equipment in all of the worst possible ways. And then, like, he's in the steam room and we see naked Thor butts and naked body backs and whatever up against the steamy side. And I was fully expecting Thor to have a heart attack. It didn't happen. But I thought so. He's... 01:48:46.18 Fireheart Media No, he doesn't have a heart attack. And then he ramps himself up like... Oh, Newton is his name. Not Ben. Okay, not Ben. So, Newton... And potentially... um Newton may be a gay man. And I don't... Like, that's... There's in no way disparaging. That's just, like... The feeling you get when you're watching him interact with this lady... 01:49:10.74 Fireheart Media um and then oh i don't want any yeah i want no part of that that's not that's not my bag but either way he's trying to like be legitimate in his job he's like this is wrong uh i have to trick thorn into thinking that something's going on so he doesn't like try to come and crack my skull because he's off his gourd on alcohol or whatever Right. So there's a point where Thor is like, you better be taking care of that lady. And then he's like, you better not say anything and takes a little tape off. And, you know, then he's like trying to hurry and take his pants off or whatever to pretend like he's been doing stuff with her. And then he's like, oh, yeah, I had to tie her down and this, that and the other and all this other mess. And, you know, just basically fakes it to Thor. And it's very silly. Because Thor busts in and he's like, where's that massage gun? 01:50:04.09 Fireheart Media I got to use the fancy attachment or something. And it's just like, okay, man. And this goes on for a long time. It's not a short scene. Yeah. This is like, like, like Ebert said, like there's set pieces. This is one of those set pieces. That's just like, I feel like the director and Charles Gaines and everybody on set, they were just having fun with what, what all could we do with this? Like if you've ever had weird fantasies about what you could do in an old gym, Don't worry, they've got you covered. Like at one point, he's got the lady that he, Thor has the lady that he is with hanging upside down from the little like anti-grab, you know, like do your, do your abs stuff. 01:50:48.60 Fireheart Media thing and she's naked and he's like pushing her back and forth as she's dangling from this thing he's just poking her butt with like a stick like it's not like sexy it's like what are you doing man and he's just like idly like prodding her so she swings a little bit and she's giggling and whatever it's just like okay this is this is a lot i didn't expect this going into this movie and i didn't expect them using the um I don't know what that is. Your oblique cruncher thing. It's like a side to side seat. And they were, yeah. It's like my, my man, I hope you clean this equipment afterward. Oh my God. 01:51:32.63 Fireheart Media Well, that's okay because the whole gym gets wrecked a little bit later. Spoiler! The whole gym gets wrecked. Anyway, so they have to replace anything anyway. Anyway, so um we cut to Joe Santo at an airplane hangar with his new fling who is one of the upper class ladies that he met at the party who, like, when he's leaving, this like lady is talking to him and then, like, he ends up going out with this particular lady. 01:52:00.98 Fireheart Media So what did you need? No, I just, I'm pretty sure she's a lady from Blade Runner. Oh, okay. So then we cut to the Mr. Olympia contest where they introduce Franco Orsini, who is actually played by Franco Colombo. 01:52:15.80 Fireheart Media And he's on stage far, far away. Like, you know, this isn't a close up shot or anything, but we both looked at it and we're like, that's Franco Colombo, you know, and it is, it is in fact, ah because so much of this movie that's around the bodybuilding part is actually based on Arnie's life. 01:52:33.85 Fireheart Media And of course, Franco Colombo is somebody that Arnie beat at Mr. Olympia. But then they also became besties, like besties, besties for the rest of their lives. So at the competition, Craig goes to see Joe and ask Joe if he's hanging out with Zoe, who is that upper class lady. 01:52:52.38 Fireheart Media again and joe says that no he doesn't think so because he doesn't like to stay comfortable and here's where we get the title of the movie he doesn't like to stay comfortable it's too easy to continue to do so and he would rather stay hungry because in staying hungry You continue to ah feel a thirst for life and for living. and you don't When you're comfortable, you get to the point where you are in a rut and you're not experiencing anything new. And if you aren't experiencing anything new, then you're not really living your life properly. because life begins outside that comfort zone. 01:53:38.26 Fireheart Media When you stay hungry, you're keeping yourself at least mildly uncomfortable so that you can continue to grow. So that's the moral of the story. Ding, ding, ding. And the title of the movie. And Dave, you had a comment. 01:53:52.28 Fireheart Media Yeah, so Zoe, the um lady that ah Joe went off on a plane excursion with, um I recognized her face and I was like, I'm pretty sure that is. And yes, it she is the actress that plays Zora in Blade Runner, who is the replicant that has the boa constrictor. So just a random aside, but i was like, oh, I knew I've seen her somewhere. 01:54:17.24 Fireheart Media So moving right along, Mary Tate goes to the spa to find Thor there. She's going to the spa, I guess, just to like change and get some stuff or whatever, because everybody who works at the spa is in and out of the spa at different times of the day and night. But she finds Thor there and he ends up grabbing her and tries to make her inhale something I'm not sure if it's smelling salts or cocaine or what the hell it is that he's got but he's trying to like you know puts his hand over her mouth and then like shoves this thing up her nose to try to like you know i guess alter her mindset or whatever and we don't know what all is going to happen there but it's a bad situation for her 01:54:58.39 Fireheart Media and uh this this the terrible stage for this was set a little bit earlier in the film because um Thor has in his office a peephole that he drilled in the floor hidden under his carpets where he could watch like the ladies change and he was watching um Mary Tate earlier so he's had the hots for her this whole time and now he's making good on it now that he's hopped up on alcohol and weird drugs So back at the contest, Joe is prepping and Craig is just talking about his problems while Joe is like trying to lift weights and do whatever. And Craig's like, why don't you put the dumbbells down? And, you know, Craig, or ah Joe's like, I got a contest to win my dude. Like, you know, just because you're unstable as hell doesn't mean that like my life has to change and I've got to deviate from my plan over it, you know? yeah. 01:55:54.36 Fireheart Media so um then Franklin ends up ah going with Craig off to the spa to look for Mary Tate because he's told, oh, Mary Tate has gone to the spa. So he goes to look for her while some other guy from an a rival lifter is following after him to see where Thor is because all the people at the competition are like where is Thor he has the prize money I'm suspicious that he's taken off with the prize money and just left all of us hanging here 01:56:31.80 Fireheart Media so we've got that kind of situation going on and um like on the stage we also somewhere in here have you know like the last showdown of Joe Santo versus whoever the other guy is that's with the group that you know like sent somebody after craig and they're having their little flex off but it's really cool because like the whole stage rotates into the spotlight and then you have these two guys and they are doing mirror poses to each other for the first section of it before they then go into like freestyle posing and all the people in the auditorium are getting into it and they're like son you know like you're all cheering and the judges are watching everything and you're definitely watching the two guys and going yeah Arnie's competitor is a big guy but he doesn't have the definition that Arnie like mean you're definitely doing some I'm watching a bodybuilding competition judging while you're watching this which is part of the whole point of this movie to make it something that you automatically engage in this whole bodybuilding competition thing and then you get 01:57:42.75 Fireheart Media pumped up by the audience doing their cheering and everything as well. So, ah so we, we cut back to the gym. And Mary Tate escapes and she runs down the stairs and she's like, he let me go, but you know, whatever. And then she's just freaking out. And then, so Craig sends her out and sends her away. Meanwhile, Thor is throwing a whole bunch of weights. Like if you ever wanted to see like, not just a sexy scene at a gym, but if you ever in your life wanted to see like, what kind of violence could people do with weightlifting equipment? 01:58:18.65 Fireheart Media Here we go. We get it. You get every... He's throwing the two-pound plates. He's throwing the ten-pound plates. They're swinging bars at each other. Barbells. Barbells. They're chucking the barbells across the room. They're dropping them down the stairs. They're dumbbell punching into the wall. It's just like... 01:58:37.14 Fireheart Media it's actually really cathartic like you're watching the benches i mean I'm just going like yeah that's stuff i kind of wanted to do like that not to hurt anyone but to like man you could really just huck this across the room bust those mirrors and all kinds of carnage and it would it would probably be very like they i think they have rooms i think they have those destruction rooms yeah where you can rent them and then just like bust stuff up like that that's like this but scary because ah Thor is just out of his gourd, like hopped up on his drugs or whatever he was taking. And then Craig's trying not to die because Thor is like three times his size. Craig's not a big guy. um And they get, you know, they get into like 01:59:19.03 Fireheart Media one gym choking each other and their bear hugs and getting slammed through the wall it's a lot of the choreography must have been like really fun to do for this because it's a two-story fight they're fighting upstairs down the stairs on the ground floor like there's a lot going on for a movie that was like I didn't know there was gonna be a giant brawl in this like gym And I gotta say, like ah as somebody who constantly pictures violent scenes all the time in my head because I have a deeply violent soul, I love this whole... This is incredibly gratifying to me. Just like Dave said, this is very gratifying to me to see you know like all the violence of the thing. Because like... 02:00:02.23 Fireheart Media If you're somebody who goes to the gym and you lift a lot and you get, you know, you're lifting through every emotion that you feel and you are, are, you know, trying for your PRs and you're doing all this other mess and then you get frustrated and sometimes you have a bad day and you go into the gym and you let it out on the weights. You know what I mean? And so when you get to something like this and then you see it like, no, you're letting it out on the weights. And then you are also like hucking the weights and like destroy, like it's, it's very, it's, i I love this. I love this so much. This is great. And so like maybe for this scene alone, it might be like, you know, one of my top tier movies just for this one scene. Cause I feel like I'm going to have to come back and watch that scene again. 02:00:47.16 Fireheart Media I think with the exception of the film Death Spa, which it's a cult classic more or less, there really isn't this level of like decades of cinema of people just using a dream gym for like utter destruction. And that's a shame because there's a lot of ways to like kill someone using gym equipment. Yeah. 02:01:11.42 Fireheart Media but Right, right. So ah yeah, like full disclosure, i also have been a personal trainer for 16 years. So, um you know, like, it's not like I'm saying, oh, yes, I wish to kill everyone that comes in the gym. But like, you know, I've been in around in and around gyms and training equipment for a very, very, very long time. And I'm aware of all the different ways you can unintentionally hurt people or hurt yourself on equipment. ah That's why form is so important. So like ah watching something like this where the people are intentionally throwing the weights around and stuff. It's like, oh, wow. Yeah, that really does do a lot of damage, doesn't it? Maybe that's a reason why we don't do that. 02:01:56.51 Fireheart Media There's a reason why you want you know you have a spotter when you're doing heavy skull crushers. ah Or, oh, you're not finishing your reps. i could You don't understand that I have this resistance band here. And you might stop breathing. 02:02:14.14 Fireheart Media okay that's like a level that I've never like even in my most violent that's not a place i go but thank you for that Mr. Horror, Monster Dear Monster -- it's monsterdear.monster if you want to hear him talk about horror -- anyway so uh the one guy that followed craig who's from the other team or whatever, the other opponent to Joe Santo, ends up running back to the event and telling everybody, he's run off with the money. And so then everybody, because like this is right after everybody stands gets off the stage, including Joe. And so then Joe takes off running and he's like, what? And he's in his little like posing shorts. So he's like in a speedo and he runs off. And then immediately after that, all the other bodybuilders that were competing, there's like 40 guys, they all are in posing trunks and they are all running barefoot down the street to go try to catch up with Joe Santo. Who's like, he has a head, like a head start on them, but he also knows exactly where he's going because this is his gym that he goes to. And so like he's run off and then everybody else is running along trying to figure out where Joe went to. And so they stopped to ask people on the road, have you seen Joe Santo? He's a big guy and he's got posing trunks on. And then some of the people are like, oh, I thought you were in underwear. And this, oh, so you're a bodybuilder. And then like all the people on the street just start asking them to pose. And then one bodybuilder turns and looks to the other bodybuilder who's across the street. Hey, they want to see poses. And then all at once, all the bodybuilders, it's like this, this kind of like musical moment, even though there's not a musical moment that happens like that, like it, there isn't a musical number that starts up and they do not bust out into song. However, they all synchronize pose along the way. And then they're standing in the middle of traffic posing. And then there's like seven bodybuilders on top of a bus posing as the bus is going down the street. Like it's a whole bunch of silly, silly stuff where they're all just like over the top, just like giving the public what they want and showing them like this appreciation of, you know, like the sport of bodybuilding. Because again, this movie, is its secondary goal is to bring bodybuilding to public awareness and bring positive vibes about what bodybuilding is to the general public. 02:04:39.54 Fireheart Media And everyone is grinning. And watching it, I'm grinning. I'm like, I would love this to just, like, I would love to be walking down a city street and then people just bust out in, like, bodybuilding poses and their shirts explode and they're just, like... 02:04:54.36 Fireheart Media you oiled up and ready for the stage. And like, that's fantastic. I give me that, you know, want to bring peace to the world. Let's ever, you can't, you can't fight if you're spending all your time bodybuilding. I'll tell you that. 02:05:07.13 Fireheart Media the But you also, I have to say, just for the record, you were also very early into the movie when we saw ah Joe Santo and his buddies hanging out at the gym at all hours and then going out to go drink and play pool afterwards. You were just like, man, I want that. I want to just have a group of people and I just lift forever. And then we just go hang out and just play pool and chill. 02:05:31.22 Fireheart Media Well, yeah, everyone has their you know their iPods on and their headphones and they're just in their zone doing their thing. There's not a lot of camaraderie like in the gym. mean, everyone's lifting together and there's some positivity to that, but you don't have this like close-knit group like it's this tiny little gym with 10 people at it or less. you know it's a whole community center or LA Fitness or whatever, and there's like 5,000 people and everyone's hogging the freaking equipment. But if... 02:06:00.02 Fireheart Media when you have this small little group, everyone's working toward a thing or they're working together and they're just having like a blast. And like, that's their, that's their like livelihoods. Like that's just what they do. And then they have fun outside of that and they hang out together. And that's, I don't know, we miss some of that these days. 02:06:20.02 Fireheart Media Yes and no, because I'm the person who goes and makes gym bros out of every person I see in the gym. This is true. I'm, I'm the silent bald guy at the gym. Meanwhile, I'm the one who just cannot, like I have to take my headphones off and go run over to any person that catches my eye. And I'm like, I just have to go say, I love your hair. Or, you know, that's a big weight. I want to be like you when I grow up or whatever bullshit I'm saying to whoever's in the gym doing their thing. just because or i see you in here all the time and i love seeing you it's inspiring every time i see you every morning whatever it is that I say to the people in the gym but I'm also the person who will run a marathon and then just as soon as I'm hitting the wall and dying I'll be like 02:07:03.74 Fireheart Media you're doing great. know You can do this. I believe in you. You don't like to everybody on the street. So, uh, anyway, moving right along though. Uh, this, this movie speaks to our very souls is what I think we're getting at here. Uh, let's, let's wrap this narrative up though. 02:07:21.37 Fireheart Media So Mary Tate was assaulted by Thor and yeah the cops say that it was assault and attempted rape, but it wasn't actual rape. So thank God that didn't happen. ah But he did assault her ah in the process of all of that, but he did end up letting her go. Thank God. So I'm glad that they didn't put that in there ah for real. 02:07:47.16 Fireheart Media But ah Craig ends up, so Thor gets arrested and Craig ends up telling the real estate guys he will not sell the gym after the gym was sold to him. 02:07:58.01 Fireheart Media He decides he's going into the gym business with Joe Santo. And so the real estate guys, um like, you know, the Craig guy, he's just like, I'm going to do whatever. And he does up like a bodybuilding pose. And in here, I'll let you talk about it Dave. So, the, the, the shmarmy guys are like walking out that they're, they're all in the trashed up gym that's being repaired and they're having this chat and there's like the main smarmy dude with little mustache and Craig's just not having his shit and he sits there and he does the most muscular and it's, it's very silly because he's, ah he's a little guy. Um, but he's like happy. He's happy for the first time, i think in his recent life. 02:08:41.94 Fireheart Media Um, despite the circumstances he's found, you know, he's found his family, he's found his friends and he founds out found out what he wanted to do with his life. And he's not going to put up with this garbage and deal with these like hooligans. So he, he tells them, he tells them off. And my favorite thing is the front window for the store is like busted out. 02:09:03.29 Fireheart Media um And all the other guys, they walk out of the front door and kind of go past the window. And then like the shmarmy dude, like turns back to, to um Craig and he's given him this snark and then he stops and does like a, like a front double biceps pose like twice really fast. And then he skips out the window and you're just like what is even happening? Like even that guy can recognize that bodybuilding is awesome. 02:09:31.64 Fireheart Media And that's the thing. Like, I think like the way that that part ends is such that I'm like, I feel like those guys even accept that Craig is not going to sell and they just move on with their life and go, okay, I guess we're going to have to do something else. And like that to me felt like, okay, well, 02:09:50.10 Fireheart Media the real estate guys have respect for what Craig wants to do with himself and they're just going to move on, you know? And, and that's kind of like very funny and silly, but also like using, you know, bodybuilding brings everyone in the world together, guys. Yeah. It's, it's very schmaltzy, but um a lot of it's like, 02:10:11.19 Fireheart Media These guys are, are, are shmarmy businessmen, but they look at Craig and they're going like, well, you know what? I can respect that. You didn't just like bend over. Like you, you fought for a thing that you were doing. we you know, we, we had this, a business agreement. We're doing all this stuff, but, 02:10:30.07 Fireheart Media I can respect as a businessman that you're doing the thing like wholeheartedly, you know, whatever, you know, yeah, we'll, we'll, there's always more money to be made, whatever. um Well, we see that you got this business open when it's, ah you know, when it's all fixed and like, let us know, we'll come in and do some Lipton. 02:10:49.05 Fireheart Media Yeah, it felt like you were going to see the smart, especially that one guy with the double biceps pose. You feel like he's going to come in and he's going to get some personal training from Joe Santo at some point. Gym rat. but Yeah, he's good. Gym rat. Oh. 02:11:05.50 Fireheart Media Right, right. So anyway, so there's that. And then Uncle Albert sends Craig a letter that basically tells him it's okay that he is himself. You know, he's not a Blake like the Blake family Blakes, but he is the best Craig Blake he can be because he's chosen this path. He has sold the estate. 02:11:29.14 Fireheart Media And William, the servant, has been left a lot of the estate by the grandmother. And so he was already given a lot of stuff previously. But then when Craig sells the estate, he gives William the rest of the stuff that, you know, he couldn't sell in the estate sale or whatever. And then ah William uses that to open up his own thrift store. and he ends up accepting Craig's choice of, of path going into the future. And so, William has like this little yeah U-Haul kind of thing, storage thing behind his vehicle as he drives off. And then Craig and Mary Tate are driving off and they have basically a mobile home. Cause I guess he's going to live in a trailer from now on and, uh, or at least for right now. And then they drive off and, 02:12:17.08 Fireheart Media And then that's the end of our story. Like, ah it wraps with Craig saying goodbye to the upper class world that, you know, doesn't feel good to him anymore. And, you know, like the businessmen are at peace with him. he is going to open his business with Joe Santo. He and Mary Tate are together. And, you know, like bodybuilding has been, you know, um in the streets of Birmingham, Alabama, flexing all over the place. And so it's on the rise here. 02:12:47.77 Fireheart Media Yeah. And the last word basically is Craig saying that William has um approved like of his decisions you know despite the earlier um tiff that they had. And that meant more to Craig than even like Uncle Albert's um signing on or signing off of you know his actions, approving him. And that that was nice that craig 02:13:22.52 Fireheart Media can acknowledge that and has that you know he he's never been like a bad guy but in finding himself and in in and in understanding like what he knows to be important to him um he's still, he's not like besmirching like the, the, the name of his family and anything. He's, he's doing something that can be respected by other people and that he can respect in himself. You know, he didn't decide to go into with, with these, um, shady businessmen, because I think ultimately had he done that, then he would have like hated himself for it. And his family definitely would not have approve approved of that. 02:14:07.38 Fireheart Media Right. So, so here's the resolution of the movie and then we roll credits from here. But overall, this movie is a really fun time. 02:14:18.30 Fireheart Media ah I overall think that, you know, it, it's worth watching. I didn't really know what to expect going into it because I hadn't seen it before this viewing. 02:14:29.46 Fireheart Media And i think that a lot of little instances, some of the set pieces will stick with me moving forward in my life. um for a little bit here kind of like Pretzi like we took Pretzi from the first movie and now we've got some more additional tidbits here and there from this movie to add to our collection of Arnie movie trivia i guess but um yeah this was a fun watch and um really had like a ah kind of overall positive message to it and uh yeah it was good time so Dave what are your ending thoughts? 02:15:05.59 Fireheart Media I really enjoyed this movie. I don't think it's something that I would find myself watching um on a repeat occasion, but it does have me in the frame of mind to want to read the book because I feel ah the way the story is done and the way the characters are treated – i think that those things can be expanded upon in the novel particularly because this is an adaptation of an existing novel and then the author was involved in the screenplay so some things may have been tightened up but i think that we can probably get a better idea on some of the characters um in the book form so I'm really interested in that more than like watching this 02:15:47.83 Fireheart Media a second time um but I'm happy with it and I'm just surprised that like this was such a blind spot I've never heard anyone talk about this ever like at all uh and i hope that us kind of bringing this to the table we'll get a few more folks to watch it so if you haven't seen this which is probably most of you know go check it out it's not hard to get a hold of the film the book um however is another matter aside from the link that we will provide 02:16:19.35 Fireheart Media Right. So on that note, when we sent out the call for listeners to give feedback, we got all of two responses, one of which is incredibly short. So Alex S. says, Arnie Libre, because of the wonderful mask that Joe Santos character has on for a chunk of the movie. 02:16:43.64 Fireheart Media And Alan M says, it was the movie where I first learned that national treasure and icon Sally Field has one of the best butts in the history of cinema. I don't know why this always surprises me, but it does. And I can agree that in this film, Sally Field's costuming does accentuate her form. 02:17:07.83 Fireheart Media And she's also got a really nice tan. you know I like her tan quite a bit. So, ah moving on from here, though, where in the world can people find you on the internet if you are to be found, Dave? 02:17:21.40 Fireheart Media Well, primarily you can find me on BlueSky, and that's at senplus.bsy.social whatever like it'll be linked or you can get a hold of me through monsterdear.monster where myself and my two co-hosts talk about monsters and films and books and all kinds of fun things so hit us up there or on Bluesky and we will get back to you 02:17:53.24 Fireheart Media As for me, you can find me anywhere that I may be found @jalachan, including jalachan.place, where you can find my primary show, Jala-chan's Place, where I talk about whatever I want to. Usually it's a real world topic or it is a piece of media that I love a lot. Right now, at the current moment, I am talking about Frankenstein, the 2025 movie from Guillermo del Toro. And this there's three episodes in that'll be coming out on this. When this episode drops here, if you're listening to it, when we drop it, I will also have the second of the Frankenstein 2025 movie episodes. I also did a movie or an episode on the book. So if you are interested in brushing up on the Mary Shelley novel, I also have an episode on that. So check all of those out and so much more at jalachan.place. So our intro is done by the fantastic Sam Hughes. You can check him out at SamHughesVO.com. And our music is by Jake Lionheart. Until next month... 02:19:01.40 Fireheart Media Put the cookie down now!