The more we dug into it, we kept seeing that - you know - these charges are having an impact on on retention because students were being separated from our institution for unpaid balances that were not tied to any sort of academic fee. Welcome to FOCUS, a podcast dedicated to the business of higher education. I'm your host, Heather Richmond, and we will be exploring the challenges and opportunities facing today's higher learning institutions. In this episode, I'll be talking with Megan Carr, director of the cashiers office at the University of Missouri. We'll discuss their solution to stop unnecessary fees from showing up with a student count and the benefits of a payment platform for multiple channels. Hi Megan. Thanks for being our guest today. Absolutely, glad to be here, Heather. I know that now more than ever student retention is a priority for all campuses and when you joined Mizzou that was one of your first challenges. Tell us about that. Yes, shortly after joining Mizzou in 2015 I started working with my leadership team in my department to see what was kind of working or not working here in the department. Specifically you know aspects related to the student account. A reoccurring same theme that kept popping up is that there were over a hundred and fifty different line items that were on the student account that were outside the traditional tuition course fees, mandatory fees, room, board, parking, etc. And so as we started to dig into those fees we discovered that there was not a consistent time period to which those fees were being applied to the student account and so they were essentially coming on later in the semester. So for example let's say the student was at an event in August, swiped their ID card, well those charges didn't come over on the student account until maybe October or November. So either a third or the last bill of the semester and so students were not realizing. Obviously you know that those charges hadn't come along with our account and when they did come onto the account they probably forgot that they needed to pay a bill. And so the trickle-down effect was essentially you know past due holds being placed on accounts which then stopped these students from being able to register for future semesters or get a transcript due to unpaid balance. And so the more we dug into it we kept seeing that you know these charges are having an impact on retention because students were being separated from our institution for unpaid balances that were not tied to any sort of academic fee. Wow so it sounds like your student account was really acting as a holding account for all these surges on campus. Unfortunately yes it was. We had charges that were tied to almost anything and everything. We had non-academic materials that could be purchased through a bookstore as far as like sweatshirts or we had a lovely Clinique counter in our bookstore that student could purchase items through. Also various activities or events that were happening across campus. And so students were just freely swiping their ID card and essentially had an open line of credit and these charges would then be on to their student account. And you know students may forget that they had done that or mom and dad were quite surprised and they would eventually get the bill and see these charges out there. And so it was just kind of obviously causing more concern than anything. So Meghan was there a subset of students of these account charges affected. Actually it was open to all students. So any student that was enrolled and had an ID card essentially could swipe or participate in purchasing any of these events or items at the different departments. Wow so I can see how this become a big problem pretty fast right. Yes being a large campus it quickly kind of spun out of control. Absolutely and so is this common practice to just be able to be buying anything on campus or not really buying anything on campus and putting on your student account. Unfortunately it was a common practice here at Mizzou. Again I joined in 2015 and so as I was talking through with my staff we realized that this was this was an issue, but again it was culture of campus. It was a decision that had been made many years ago. Mostly to have departments get out of handling cash. So they shifted everything to the student account, but again it was causing you know significant retention issues as far as you know unpaid balances, not allowing students to go through to progress to future semesters. So we knew we needed to do something different to both help the institution, as well as you know, allow these students to you know keep progressing, because our you know our end goal is to get them to graduation. Right and it's really interesting it's probably not a place that a lot of people would look first to say where do we have a student retention problem. Oh I bet it's the student account. Well my staff knew that it was an issue just because of the the customer service aspects that it was causing. But then as we started to you know drill into you know more in depth, you know we started to see an issue and we started to get others from enrollment management involved and everyone was an agreement like yes this is something we need to fix. But how do we fix it. Right yeah, so obviously you need to find that solution that allowed really these departments around campus to take their own real-time payments and not charge the student account. So how did you resolve that? Right exactly, because you know we knew these activities or these charges that were coming over onto the student account you know had a revenue generating component to them. And they were - it was money that departments were using to you know sustain their operation or provide other services. So we knew we just couldn't essentially cut you know these departments off at the knees. We needed to provide them with a platform that allowed them to continue accepting these charges or these payments for these various events or activities, but not necessarily beyond the student account. We wanted to make sure and separate the student account from you know non-academic related fees. We wanted to keep the student account as clean as possible - focusing it mostly on tuition and any mandatory fees, room, board, parking. But the other miscellaneous fees needed to go somewhere else. So I've had previous experience working with Marketplace and TouchNet at other institutions that I was at. And so knowing the background that I came from, I knew that there were other solutions out there that we could use as a storefront concept for these departments. So we started to put together a business case and started to explore what the options were on the market. And we everything kept pointing back to TouchNet and Marketplace. And so it took us a little while to essentially get all of the necessary stakeholders on board and present our business case and explain why we needed to move forward with this, but eventually we landed on Marketplace is going to be the best solution for our campus. That's great and it really allows all your departments to have their own storefront and be able to take their own payments and then also makes the student pay right then and there, right? Right, exactly, and one aspect that we liked about Marketplace then they had the TouchNet ready functionality that we had a lot of departments that had you know a front-end software system that worked best for their needs. But we just needed to figure out how to get that payment piece connected instead of having it go through the student account. And so the TouchNet Ready partner aspect is really something that helped our business case. Oh that's great and do you know how many different TouchNet Ready partners are you can I get into right now? We are currently connected into to TouchNet ready partners and we have one more in the pipeline that we should be bringing on board in the next three months. That's great. And I know that when you made this decision it was really for all four campuses. So how are you managing that? It was so essentially Mizzou being the flagship campus of the University of Missouri system and that's you know where my position is at; I was looking at it specifically from my campus's point of view. But as we rolled out the business case we started to learn that the other campuses in the UM system also had a need for Marketplace and so our UM system controller's office and our vice president of finance made the decision, in conjunction with the other campuses that Marketplace is something that we could operate as a shared service. Essentially you know keeping the cost relatively revenue neutral and you know having it centralized from an operational standpoint. So once we decided to move forward with purchasing TouchNet we also started to implement a shared services model. So allowing essentially we've - we've created one dedicated full-time position that lives centrally here on the Columbia campus, but supports the other three campuses in the UM system. And so we've been able to roll that out and to date we've had and - I want to make sure everybody knows this we just went live with Marketplace back in March of 2019. So to date we've brought on board about fifty u-stores and or u-pay sites, two TouchNet ready partners and within the next three months we think we're going to bring on board about another fifteen u- stores or u-pay sites and one more TouchNet ready partner. Wow that's a lot. Yes, we've been very busy right. So you have the one dedicated resource to really help it in those different store fronts and u-pay sites. Is there somebody else on each of those campuses also managing it from ongoing daily basis? So the approach that we have taken is that we have created like a train-the-trainer mentality. So we've got one staff member who's dedicated and due to the volume we've brought on board another support staff that helps about fifty percent of the time with bringing the storefronts, creating the storefront sort of u-pay sites but then once they're live we essentially train the department on how to manage their their storefront because we really want them to own to own this; and as they move forward with going live we're just here as a resource to answer any questions or help them pull reports that they may need That's great; that's a good way of doing in train-the-trainer approach is always best, right? Right, yes, and for our volume that was really the only way that we could we it seemed feasible to us to manage this. Absolutely, well and I know that implementing marketplace actually helped to resolve that student count issue but at the same time it really helped to teach students an important lesson, right? Right, exactly and so that that was kind of another theme that was happening here on our campuses. We wanted to teach the students more financial responsibility you know previously we had this open line of credit so to speak where students could just freely swipe their ID card and then pay for it later, but now where we're shifting the focus with Marketplace that we want students to you know maybe think twice about what they're purchasing. And you know and certainly not discouraging them from making any purchases, but you know be mindful of what can they and can't they afford because again we want to set them up for success after college. So have you seen an increase in retention then when you may be changes? I believe so I actually haven't pulled you know specific numbers because I've been so head deep and the Marketplace implementation. I haven't been able to pull specific numbers but you know anecdotally I feel like we've seen seen an increase because our our pass to holds or less. We're not essentially having the customer service calls that my office was initially. So I you know I feel like we've made steps in the right direction and hopefully the data would support that. That's great and so that was the problem you're trying to solve but at the same time you also were able to solve a PCI compliance problem. So how is this move to marketplace helped in your compliance efforts? Right so again still you know newly working on marketplace and all of our initiatives, but you know long term our plan is to make TouchNet, you know the primary payment gateway for e-commerce operations across the University of Missouri system . We've got some ways to go, but we're hoping that we can push everything into TouchNet and you know create a better SAQ process or PCI compliance process for those departments. Because right now we've got twenty total payment gateways; so 19 outside of TouchNet; and so we've got some opportunity to transition more departments over to TouchNet over the course of time, but I'm optimistic that we'll get there. Right but you already reduce some of your different applications of payment gateways just as you consolidated into the storefronts, right? Right we absolutely did and so a lot of departments that were you know have we're both taking in-person payments or had a an online presence through the student count; they've essentially gotten out of those in-person payments and have shifted more of their focus to the online. And so that's obviously decrease the number of questions that they have to answer yearly. Since we've went live with marketplace again back on March 1st, we've processed over 1.6 million dollars and that was through March 1st through October 31st of this year [2019]. Yeah that's amazing. Yeah I know you were also saying that you really want to take this more of a platform approach and have a you know single entity for capturing your payments. Yes so we're trying again to you know have everything go through TouchNet as much as we can because it if we are only working with one specific vendor, then obviously that's less work that we have is you know from a treasury standpoint. Because I will admit I'm not the one that has to do PCI compliance here on across the UM campus that lives elsewhere, but again working with them we we just we knew that there's opportunity to have TouchNet as you know the primary preferred gateway. That's great, but it sounds like a lot of change and you know really a short amount of time any obstacles to transitioning from charging the student account to departmental store friends and implementing everything? Always. I would say probably the biggest hurdle and we knew this going into it is that in higher education we as institutions sometimes don't move as quickly as we would like for multiple reasons. And so my office knew that any changes that we were going to make it was going to take some time to you know create the business proposal, show the need on why we need to do a new platform, as well as, just engage all of the different stakeholders and so that was probably the biggest challenge just getting the right people in the room; making sure they understood what we were trying to do, get get buy-in once. We knew that this was going to be a system-wide shared service solution, then having to get the other campuses on board. And so all of that really took about two years to do, but once everybody was on board then we were able to move pretty quickly. We were able to you know get the contract negotiated signed and start our implementation. Yeah that's great, and so who were the various stakeholders that need to be involved to make this happen? Oh this ranged from the business office - to each of the directors. My counterparts in the business office, as well as, the CFO'son each of the campuses. We also want to make sure and have conversations with enrollment management to get their support on why we were taking things off of the student account; the different departments; and then eventually it landed at the the system level for the vice president of finance to you know have the conversation with the CFOs and reach an agreement to move forward. Yeah that's the most important thing the enrollment management piece it may be something that you don't always think about but that's really essential when it comes to students and how you're working with them, right. Right exactly I mean obviously we're all here for the students, and we want to keep doing what's best for them. But we we just knew that you know this was an issue. And this - when I first joined Mizzou I actually had ran into someone within enrollment management and you know they were like, you know about your student charge issue, right? And I'm like, I'm learning more. So it was something that people were aware of and it wasn't you necessarily the best practice, but again, we've been able to resolve that. Right well I think you know having 150 different line items, everyone probably looked at it like, oh how are we gonna make this better? Exactly, exactly. It really just took you know dedication from my staff and also you know the support that I had from my division to you know move forward with making these changes. That's great. So any other advice that you have to give other campuses looking to make any type of process improvement changes. Oh gosh be willing to dig in and you know be patient that it's going to take time to eventually resolve and my personality I'm always wanting to get things done you know most efficiently and as quickly as possible but that sometimes not realistic. And so I had to be mindful of that. So my best advice is just you know be patient and if you're you know really gung-ho and feel like it's this is the right move, it will happen. That's great advice on that. Well thanks so much, Megan, for all your insights today on taking a different approach to ensure student retention, while teaching financial responsibility. Absolutely, happy to be here. Thanks for tuning into this episode of FOCUS. Don't forget to subscribe so you can stay up to date on the business of higher education. For more information, check us out at TouchNet.com.